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Davion Falcon
Those Once Loyal Ushra'Khan
25
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Posted - 2012.07.12 22:58:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Davion Falcon wrote:NightmareX wrote:Firebolt145 wrote:Risky stuff right there m8 Risky enough. The ego defense mechanism is strong with this one. The 'i'm out of arguments' post is strong in that one. And why wouldn't it be risky if we only have had 1 or 2 logis repping us when none of our ship have any active tanking? Don't you think that 4x Dominix'es, 2x Megathron's, 1x Typhoon, 1x Scorpion and 1x Drake doesn't hurt a Dominix or a Megathron QUITE ALOT if they have no reps or even 1 or 2 Logis?
I have already posted my opinions/arguments that so far, has failed to be adequately responded to. So to answer your last question, no. Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise. Never forgotten, never forgiven. |
NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
80
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Posted - 2012.07.12 23:03:00 -
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Davion Falcon wrote:NightmareX wrote:Davion Falcon wrote:NightmareX wrote:Firebolt145 wrote:Risky stuff right there m8 Risky enough. The ego defense mechanism is strong with this one. The 'i'm out of arguments' post is strong in that one. And why wouldn't it be risky if we only have had 1 or 2 logis repping us when none of our ship have any active tanking? Don't you think that 4x Dominix'es, 2x Megathron's, 1x Typhoon, 1x Scorpion and 1x Drake doesn't hurt a Dominix or a Megathron QUITE ALOT if they have no reps or even 1 or 2 Logis? I have already posted my opinions/arguments that so far, has failed to be adequately responded to. So to answer your last question, no.
It's pretty clear you have never done PVP before it seems like.
I'm not sure about the actual DPS, but 4x Dominix'es, 2x Megathron's, 1x Typhoon, 1x Scorpion and 1x Drake tends to hurt QUITE ALOT i'm affraid. |
Laktos
Gunpoint Diplomacy
156
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Posted - 2012.07.12 23:21:00 -
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Not sure why I'm bothering to post here again but...
Let me ask a different sort of question: Why do you care so much what everyone here thinks of you?
Most people here are obviously not your intended audience (and if they are you should really re-think that idea), so why does it matter so much to you that everyone here change their mind and love your video?
Believe it or not, but solo/small gang pvp vids are a niche thing. Only a tiny fraction of EVE's players ever watch them, and an even smaller fraction check and post on the My EVE board regularly. And the people who don't usually watch or care for these sorts of videos are your general High Sec or Null Sec carebear or fleet member. That's not to say some of them aren't avid fans of small gang/solo vids but I think the vast population couldn't really give a **** about this stuff.
You're releasing footage of what the general High Sec pvp player does on a daily basis and marketing it at a community that is often drawn to pvp videos in the first place simply because they often show a far different side to EVE than the usual blobfest, logi heavy fights that go on everyday. No surprise then that most people here react with distaste to your movie. Latest PVP Video: Perseverance
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
80
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Posted - 2012.07.12 23:33:00 -
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Laktos wrote:Not sure why I'm bothering to post here again but...
Let me ask a different sort of question: Why do you care so much what everyone here thinks of you?
Most people here are obviously not your intended audience (and if they are you should really re-think that idea), so why does it matter so much to you that everyone here change their mind and love your video?
Believe it or not, but solo/small gang pvp vids are a niche thing. Only a tiny fraction of EVE's players ever watch them, and an even smaller fraction check and post on the My EVE board regularly. And the people who don't usually watch or care for these sorts of videos are your general High Sec or Null Sec carebear or fleet member. That's not to say some of them aren't avid fans of small gang/solo vids but I think the vast population couldn't really give a **** about this stuff.
You're releasing footage of what the general High Sec pvp player does on a daily basis and marketing it at a community that is often drawn to pvp videos in the first place simply because they often show a far different side to EVE than the usual blobfest, logi heavy fights that go on everyday. No surprise then that most people here react with distaste to your movie.
I don't care if someone hate my video or loves it. I just makes sure that i'm not bending over to some trollfaces who thinks they are so good at what good or bad PVP is.
I made a video of empire PVP, and if some few 0.0 space bears don't like it, then i'm fine with that.
But when they come here to criticise empire PVP as a style and not what they are doing them self, then i'm gonna be more defensive and more active by replying in this topic.
Even when i hate capital blobbing or gay AHAC's movies, i'm not going in to their topics to criticise what they are doing, because it's their playstyle. And there is also a buttload of different PVP playstyles in EVE, so i think it's wrong to just keep peoples to only do one type of EVE playstyle as you want here.
Someone does 1 vs 1 fights, someone keeps doing fights where they are almost dead but survives. Someone does capital blobbing and someone are doing AHAC's fleets. There are tons of things to do under PVP.
Just because one film director makes a movie that you think is crap, doesn't make the others who watch it to say it's crap to. They have their peoples who likes their types of film.
Should they just stop making movies just because they fear someone might not like it because it's not thrilling enough for you?
To be from empire, my movie might be pretty thrilling for many others who lives in empire. Who knows?
I'm not trying to reach my movie out to your type of playerbase. I'm trying to reach the players who like empire PVP where there is no massive blobbing and lags.
because as you knows, the 0.0 space and low sec population is damn small compared to the mpire population. So you only speaks for some part of the 0.0 space population. |
Laktos
Gunpoint Diplomacy
156
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Posted - 2012.07.12 23:45:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:I don't care if someone hate my video or loves it. I just makes sure that i'm not bending over to some trollfaces who thinks they are so good at PVP, while they don't realize them self that all they do in 0.0 space is to blob the crap out of others.
I made a video of empire PVP, and if some few 0.0 space bears don't like it, then i'm fine with that.
But when they come here to criticise empire PVP as a style and not what they are doing them self, then i'm gonna be more defensive and more active by replying in this topic.
Even when i hate capital blobbing or gay AHAC's movies, i'm not going into their topics to criticise what they are doing, because it's their playstyle. And there is also a buttload of different PVP playstyles in EVE, so i think it's wrong to just keep peoples to only do one type of PVP playstyle in a movie as you want here.
Someone does 1 vs 1 fights, someone keeps doing fights where they are almost dead but survives. Someone does capital blobbing and someone are doing AHAC's fleets. Someone like me aredoing empire PVP. There are tons of things to do under PVP.
Just because one film director makes a movie that you think is crap, doesn't make the others who watch it to say it's crap to. They have their peoples who likes their types of films.
Should they just stop making movies just because they fear someone might not like it because it's not thrilling enough for you?
To be from empire, my movie might be pretty thrilling for many others who lives in empire. Who knows?
I'm not trying to reach my movie out to your type of playerbase. I'm trying to reach the players who like empire PVP where there is no massive gay capital blobbing and lags.
Because as you knows, the 0.0 space and low sec population is damn small compared to the empire population. So you only speaks for some part of the 0.0 space population and not the empire population.
And it's not a secret to that most of the empire population doesn't even write in the 'My EVE' forum section. So even if they don't write anything here, it doesn't means that they don't like my movie.
That's what i'm trying to say.
That's exactly what I'm telling you to do!
Put it up on the forum. Make it clear who your audience is and then let people give feedback as they will. I can guarantee you that if you don't try to argue endlessly and pointlessly with people who dislike your movie, the thread will never degenerate like it has. Also the simple fact that you "just makes sure that i'm not bending over to some trollfaces who thinks they are so good at PVP" proves that you care a lot what everyone here thinks. In fact what it says to me is that you won't accept anybody disliking your video on punishment of long forum posts!
Also I'm not sure why you keep bringing up "0.0 space bears" as a straw-man argument. At least half of the people in this thread are small gang/solo pvpers, and a bunch of them live in low sec. I know this because I recognise them. This crying foul over null-bears ruining your thread just makes you look deluded. Anyway, I tried to help you. Now I shall bow out of this thread. Latest PVP Video: Perseverance
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NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
80
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Posted - 2012.07.12 23:50:00 -
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Laktos wrote:That's exactly what I'm telling you to do!
Put it up on the forum. Make it clear who your audience is and then let people give feedback as they will. I can guarantee you that if you don't try to argue endlessly and pointlessly with people who dislike your movie, the thread will never degenerate like it has. Also the simple fact that you "just makes sure that i'm not bending over to some trollfaces who thinks they are so good at PVP" proves that you care a lot what everyone here thinks. In fact what it says to me is that you won't accept anybody disliking your video on punishment of long forum posts!
Also I'm not sure why you keep bringing up "0.0 space bears" as a straw-man argument. At least half of the people in this thread are small gang/solo pvpers, and a bunch of them live in low sec. I know this because I recognise them. This crying foul over null-bears ruining your thread just makes you look deluded. Anyway, I tried to help you. Now I shall bow out of this thread.
Alright, you made a good point about making it clear who this movie is mostly made for next time. Will write that down on my next topic with a new movie if it's from empire to.
But i clearly made it clear in my OP that this IS an empire PVP movie though. |
Firebolt145
Gunpoint Diplomacy
63
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Posted - 2012.07.13 00:31:00 -
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It's more than just the 'empire' nature of this that makes it comedic.......................ah nvm, not worth it. I'll still hit the post button anyway though! |
NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
80
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Posted - 2012.07.13 00:48:00 -
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Firebolt145 wrote:It's more than just the 'empire' nature of this that makes it comedic.......................ah nvm, not worth it. I'll still hit the post button anyway though!
Pretty funny if you think i'm the only reason for it.
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Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
13
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:24:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Laktos wrote:That's exactly what I'm telling you to do!
Put it up on the forum. Make it clear who your audience is and then let people give feedback as they will. I can guarantee you that if you don't try to argue endlessly and pointlessly with people who dislike your movie, the thread will never degenerate like it has. Alright, you made a good point about making it clear who this movie is mostly made for next time. Will write that down on my next topic with a new movie if it's from empire to. But i made it clearly in my OP that this IS an empire PVP movie though. Now i would rather hear feedbacks from peoples who lives in empire by doing PVP. EDIT: Added the line (Empire PVP) after the Rebirth 4 name in my subject on the topic now.
As a proud member of the Battleclinic Community (peerless group of quality posters of the highest caliber), I have witnessed considerable amounts of feedback regarding Rebirth.
It appears that even among the hisec pvpers you're something of a joke... |
NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
80
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:40:00 -
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Rengas wrote:NightmareX wrote:Laktos wrote:That's exactly what I'm telling you to do!
Put it up on the forum. Make it clear who your audience is and then let people give feedback as they will. I can guarantee you that if you don't try to argue endlessly and pointlessly with people who dislike your movie, the thread will never degenerate like it has. Alright, you made a good point about making it clear who this movie is mostly made for next time. Will write that down on my next topic with a new movie if it's from empire to. But i made it clearly in my OP that this IS an empire PVP movie though. Now i would rather hear feedbacks from peoples who lives in empire by doing PVP. EDIT: Added the line (Empire PVP) after the Rebirth 4 name in my subject on the topic now. As a proud member of the Battleclinic Community (peerless group of quality posters of the highest caliber), I have witnessed considerable amounts of feedback regarding Rebirth. It appears that even among the hisec pvpers you're something of a joke...
Nice try, but your posting quality stinks.
Now, go blob some carebears in 0.0 space and feel proud of it. |
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Firebolt145
Gunpoint Diplomacy
63
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Posted - 2012.07.13 02:59:00 -
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Actually AQUILA are pretty gud
plus he has monocle and you don't |
Body Shield
The Hatchery Team Liquid
3
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Posted - 2012.07.13 03:11:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger_effect
Quote:The DunningGÇôKruger effect is a cognitive bias in which unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly rating their ability much higher than average. This bias is attributed to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their mistakes.
Actual competence may weaken self-confidence, as competent individuals may falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. As Kruger and Dunning conclude, "the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others" |
Rengas
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
13
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Posted - 2012.07.13 03:14:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:EDIT: I'm just gonna wait for you to post your e-peen stats from Battleclinic and then claim that you are good at PVP. EDIT 2: I hear shooting Arrays at POS'es are pro PVP these days .
Actually I fraps'd that fight.
Do you think you could make an intro for it?
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Issac Haydron
Professional Losers
3
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Posted - 2012.07.13 04:14:00 -
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just wanted to post... well just cuz
oh, and teh vid was aiiight |
Johnny Rook
Beyond Divinity Inc Excuses.
22
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Posted - 2012.07.13 04:49:00 -
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he is camping the **** out of this thread. Must think it's a station. |
BBQ FTW
The Hatchery Team Liquid
1
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Posted - 2012.07.13 04:52:00 -
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I don't understand why everyone is calling this risk free pvp.
Imagine if all their guardians and the link legion simultaneously disconnected and the hostiles log-in trapped these fine pvpers with several vindicators and bhaalgorns?
You have to understand the context when watching the video. |
Zen Hayabusa
Executive Override Inc. Transmission Lost
1
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Posted - 2012.07.13 05:20:00 -
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AS A FORMER MEMBER/FOUNDER OF REBIRTH I APPROVE THIS VIDEO. EVEN IF EMPIRE PVP IS HOMO
BTW STILL LOVE YOU GUYS NIGHTMARE X |
Apolyon I
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
91
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Posted - 2012.07.13 06:45:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Maliatida wrote:I yearn for the day when the highest risk I take in PVP is "2 of my 4 nuetral RR for my vindicator have been jammed, better dock, they have a drake" Seems to me that you don't really knows what risks is. Ofc, it can feel like there is no risks in that fight with the Dominix in the last fight. That's because our Logistics was able to keep the reps on our ships. The thing is WHAT would happen if the Blackbird had jammed some of the Logis. This is something we don't know how it will go, so we took the risk by attacking their fleet. If the Logis had been jammed then the risk would be very high and we would most likely have died in a fire. So it's a risk no matter how you looks at it. very entertaining thread, the vid is **** though.
I find it amazing how hisec "mercs" understand the meaning of "risk"
and it's not bad ass to pvp in a 5b vindi, serious
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Anya Klibor
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
91
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Posted - 2012.07.13 07:16:00 -
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Daneel Trevize wrote:Your response reveals the bubble you live in. Who says station fighting must be at 0km? Who said you had to do this with BSs? You can have logistic ships RR, thus you have range and could be in HACs or Command Ships/T3s and move about more, allowing for more tactics to draw the other fleets out of position. Everyone else does this everywhere else in Eve. In your case it's hard to tell someone being a good pilot from someone who's afk when they just leave their ship stationary. At least moving about within RR range would reduce dps from torps, maybe you could go for bumping people out of their RR range, there is merit to the tradeoff and something to try & risk failing at.
My point about the value of your setups is how it plays into the psychology of the situation, which isn't usually clear from videos. Were you all risking a month's earnings and thus being cautious, or feeling as though you didn't care much for losing everything fielded and thus pushing things to limits you'd not yet tried before? Basically some hint as to expectations vs reality would help people appreciate what they're seeing. Whether what you faced & how you tanked & applied dps was everyday results or something unusual. Taking 0 losses all the time is a sign you're not pushing things to their breaking point, you're operating within a safety margin, the mittens are still on. Eve is all about risk & loss, else you wouldn't care about killing the other guys.
Surely you've seen at least footage of other people's flying and understand there's a far more dynamic and fast-paced world to the other 90% of Eve PVP? Granted point-blank large blasters is fun, but it's a niche and mostly about the setup rather than what's frapsed/released.
Speaking from a tactical standpoint, you're right. We could bring out an AHAC gang, or a Recon gang, or a sniper gang and maintain the tactics as well as our RR.
But the problem is that Rebirth. tends to fight against people who hug the station with battleships, and with more RR than we have to more RR than combat ships for them. Currently, we're at war with a group called Drone Federation, who created an alliance to try to shake off the war we declared as well as a war declared by a blue alliance of ours. To give you an idea: one pilot in that corporation has three RR alts and a Loki boosting him. For those who don't know who it is, it's Jimmy15.
We would love nothing more than to take them out with an AHAC gang. Hell, I have been running around in gangs of assault frigates and AHACS with this group. But when our opponents decide the only way they can get a fight is with a battleship on station with three Guardians repping, then we have to play their game to get kills. |
NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
79
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Posted - 2012.07.13 07:33:00 -
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Issac Haydron wrote:just wanted to post... well just cuz
oh, and teh vid was aiiight
Edit: ok, i actually tried watching it. I managed get through the first fight before nearly falling asleep.
Watching the movie while your not tired is a good idea though |
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Crime time
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
2
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Posted - 2012.07.13 09:46:00 -
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confirming verge of colapse have 5 k blues!
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/exefile2012071311390265.png/ |
NSA Bivas
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
0
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:07:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:[quote=Issac Haydron] LOL, all i see in this post is jealousness. We knows exactly what risks is. I'm not saying it's bad ass to PVP in a 5 bill isk Vindi, but i'm saying it's damn fun. Oh, considering that you are a 0.0 space fanboi who probably are hugging and ass kissing like 5k+ blues, then i have no problem to accept that you think my video is ****, but if you want to prove that you are any better than us in PVP, then again, you're welcome to drop a war dec on us and bring a fight if you have the balls to do that. But after watching the YouTube link Anya posted, i'm pretty sure you won't fight us as long you have at least 2-3 times more the numbers than we have .
The mountain didn't came to Mahomed, he went to the mountain. In this case u are the insect its nice to see that u do not engage in space only on stations and g8s and in 00 the attacker when he engages on a station guess what my little friend '.......
HE CANT DOCK |
Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
136
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:19:00 -
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Seems like your still stroking your own ego.
I pvp in nullsec, I am not part of a nullsec alliance, I fly with 1 other person or myself unless we are on an lolcarriergank roam.
Take it from someone who actually does real pvp.
You are **** m8 Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
Torok Nakaht
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
1
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:23:00 -
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WOW its ere getting hot in here.... VOLTA Corp Public Channel "V0LTA" |
NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
79
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:49:00 -
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It seems that Verge of Collapse is somewhat butthurt of something when they are posting like crazy here and are crying here to |
NightmareX
Rebirth. THE GOD SQUAD
79
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Posted - 2012.07.13 10:51:00 -
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Gibbo3771 wrote:Take it from someone who actually does real pvp.
You are **** m8
Just because you live in 0.0 space doesn't mean you do real PVP pal. And the amount of kills you have doesn't tell us anything about how good you are in a real PVP situation.
The best PVPers are actually in empire. |
ry ry
Doctrine. FEARLESS.
100
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:01:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:The best PVPers are actually in empire. Become FEARLESS. |
Usul Faust
Altaholics Anonymous
1
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:02:00 -
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ry ry wrote:NightmareX wrote:The best PVPers are actually in empire.
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Gibbo3771
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
137
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:09:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:Gibbo3771 wrote:Take it from someone who actually does real pvp.
You are **** m8 Just because you live in 0.0 space doesn't mean you do real PVP pal. And the amount of kills you have doesn't tell us anything about how good you are in a real PVP situation. The best PVPers are actually in empire.
I dont live in 0.0 space, I live in a wh mate. You dont even know who VoC or Aquila is, for the exact same reason your "pvp" video sucks. We pvp in WH/nullsec, you grief in highsec. If you actually left your RR in highsec and went out to solo/small gang in hostile space where you cant dock, you might actually lose some ships and see what real risk is.
NightmareX wrote:It seems that Verge of Collapse is somewhat butthurt of something when they are posting like crazy here and are crying here to Lol
Crying? lol we merely love how highly you think of yourself yet you are terrible. If anything you are the one crying m8, you fail to see every ones argument/point and come back with the same old shite over and over again. So your rapid response is something similar to this.
Quote:The best PVPers are actually in empire.
You cant defend against every ones opinion because when EVERYONE is saying the same thing, the opinion becomes a fact.
The fact being you are pretty lame and empire pvp as it is, is not pvp. Its griefing. In highsec its about who has the most RR combined with DPS. In lowsec its about who can lock the fastest. In 0.0 sov warfare its who has the most supercaps.
What I do, what my corp does, what the real pvp'ers out there do is skillbased and they simply put, have more skill than your entire corp combined.
However you will never see the real picture, people like you just don't understand and they never will. Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country. |
ArmyOfMe
Omniscient Order
94
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Posted - 2012.07.13 11:16:00 -
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NightmareX wrote:
The best PVPers are actually in empire.
How would you know?
Suleiman Shouaa> And you still think you're taking risks? NightmareX> I do. I take risks every day. But i do whatever i can to make sure i'm not ending up in a loss.
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