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pmchem
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.07 23:59:00 -
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Why aren't all the ebank guidance system posts in this thread?
Still one of the most profitable P3 investments~
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Thrasymachus TheSophist
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Posted - 2010.07.08 00:06:00 -
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Originally by: pmchem Why aren't all the ebank guidance system posts in this thread?
Still one of the most profitable P3 investments~
8/10. I lol'd.
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.07.08 03:57:00 -
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I'll give you one... Goons purchased many millions of these and their own personal analysis of them they realized it was a poor choice and they want out for as much as they can get. So they come in here post in every PI thread that Guidance Systems are the best investment out there.
I got out of it when they where 8K couldn't be happier, made a fortune, moved onto something else that is actually going somewhere.
All these goons in this forum toting GS's one must ask... WHY? OH YEAH that's right they already said they purchased MILLIONS of them.
It's your own wallet funeral if you get sucked into something that the Goon's want you to do.
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pmchem
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.08 04:31:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
I got out of it when they where 5K couldn't be happier, made a fortune, moved onto something else that is actually going somewhere.
So on a scale of "1 to ebank" how silly do you feel for cashing out at 5k on an item that has already risen by over another 50%, has a steeply positive price history, and is severely undervalued compared to its ingredients?
I'm guessing - "ebank"
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Tiberius Smacchus
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Posted - 2010.07.08 04:32:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS It's your own wallet funeral if you deposit your ISK with ebank
fixed that for you
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Tamir Lenk
Caldari GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.08 04:43:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS Edited by: SencneS on 08/07/2010 04:12:21 I'll give you one... Goons purchased many millions of these and their own personal analysis of them they realized it was a poor choice and they want out for as much as they can get. So they come in here post in every PI thread that Guidance Systems are the best investment out there.
I got out of it when they where 5K couldn't be happier, made a fortune, moved onto something else that is actually going somewhere.
All these goons in this forum toting GS's one must ask... WHY? OH YEAH that's right they already said they purchased MILLIONS of them.
It's your own wallet funeral if you get sucked into something that the Goon's want you to do.
u mad?
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.07.08 04:43:00 -
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I have to lower my posts down meet the metal capacity of those talking to me...
I'm damn happy I cash out at 5K, the 4,500 ISK profit I made 550,000 times allowed me to buy a LOT more low price P2/P3 items in which I've turned around and made almost two times as much as I would have made if I had waiting until now to sell my GS's..
See I made 2.5B selling out 5K. I took that 2.5B and turned it into 8B. If I had waited to sell out right now I'd only have made 4B.
So answer this question, would you rather... 4.4B profit? Or 8B??
Yeah, that's what I thought..
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Samm Carterr
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Posted - 2010.07.08 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS I have to lower my posts down meet the metal capacity of those talking to me...
I'm damn happy I cash out at 5K, the 4,500 ISK profit I made 550,000 times allowed me to buy a LOT more low price P2/P3 items in which I've turned around and made almost two times as much as I would have made if I had waiting until now to sell my GS's..
See I made 2.5B selling out 5K. I took that 2.5B and turned it into 8B. If I had waited to sell out right now I'd only have made 4B.
So answer this question, would you rather... 4.4B profit? Or 8B??
Yeah, that's what I thought..
oh ****
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.07.08 04:49:00 -
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Originally by: Tamir Lenk
u mad?
lol this is what your ultimate comeback? Or is this a literal question? I better answer it just to make sure.. No, not at all, in fact I'm rather jovial right now. Are you mad?
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pmchem
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.08 04:51:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS Or 8B??
Yeah, that's what I thought..
Oh man, 8b. only 100 more expansions and ebank will be solvent
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Priscilla Fancypants
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Posted - 2010.07.08 04:57:00 -
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Edited by: Priscilla Fancypants on 08/07/2010 04:58:35
Originally by: SencneS I have to lower my posts down meet the metal capacity of those talking to me...
I'm damn happy I cash out at 5K, the 4,500 ISK profit I made 550,000 times allowed me to buy a LOT more low price P2/P3 items in which I've turned around and made almost two times as much as I would have made if I had waiting until now to sell my GS's..
See I made 2.5B selling out 5K. I took that 2.5B and turned it into 8B. If I had waited to sell out right now I'd only have made 4B.
So answer this question, would you rather... 4.4B profit? Or 8B??
Yeah, that's what I thought..
So you're saying the 20mil units of guidance I have isn't worth holding onto say 20k unit? Ohdear time to dump now!!! 
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pmchem
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.08 05:00:00 -
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hey sencnes here you said you made under 1b on GS: "Unlike GS's which I did get in on at the NPC level. The problem is so did everyone else. I'm glad I sold out of my small stock and getting only netted a almost 1B profit while I could because I'll be damned if I had to wait 6 months plus to see a bigger return." http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1349157&page=1#14
but now you're saying you made a lot more than that... wishful thinking? if you didn't make 2.5b off GS I'm guessing you didn't make 8b down the road either.
Keep spinning those tales for the ebank investor report...
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Kieselguhr Kid
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Posted - 2010.07.08 05:05:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS Edited by: SencneS on 08/07/2010 04:12:21 I'll give you one... Goons purchased many millions of these and their own personal analysis of them they realized it was a poor choice and they want out for as much as they can get. So they come in here post in every PI thread that Guidance Systems are the best investment out there.
I got out of it when they where 5K couldn't be happier, made a fortune, moved onto something else that is actually going somewhere.
All these goons in this forum toting GS's one must ask... WHY? OH YEAH that's right they already said they purchased MILLIONS of them.
It's your own wallet funeral if you get sucked into something that the Goon's want you to do.
confirming that our choice to stockpile millions of units of 418 isk guidance systems currently selling for 9,000 each with a manufacturing cost of 40,000 was a horrible choice and Ebank would be broke if you followed us now
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Kieselguhr Kid
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Posted - 2010.07.08 05:26:00 -
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some other confirmations:
confirming that waiting a year to sell our millions of guidance systems for a 10,000% (27.5%/day) profit will make us very sad
confirming that 100% of your depositors would instantly take a deal under which you would pay them the stated value of their accounts in guidance systems valued at 40,000 isk a unit
confirming that at least one guy ITT could actually make that deal, were he stupid enough to take five impossible to move ME 2 titan BPOs in return for his greatly overvalued guidance systems
confirming that we will be flying titans made out of those BPOs long before Ebank makes enough isk to pay back its depositors around the second Sarah Palin administration
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.07.08 05:40:00 -
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Originally by: pmchem hey sencnes here you said you made under 1b on GS: "Unlike GS's which I did get in on at the NPC level. The problem is so did everyone else. I'm glad I sold out of my small stock and getting only netted a almost 1B profit while I could because I'll be damned if I had to wait 6 months plus to see a bigger return." http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1349157&page=1#14
but now you're saying you made a lot more than that... wishful thinking? if you didn't make 2.5b off GS I'm guessing you didn't make 8b down the road either.
Keep spinning those tales for the ebank investor report...
When I posted that I didn't include my original purchase. Sorry for not including every aspect of my GS investments. Call my a hypocrite if you like for re-investing into a rising item is not a poor choice.. BUt for your benefit here is my GS investment in detail.
I purchased about 550K of GS's at 418 ISK each. Sold them on the 6.18 for 3.2K that only comes to about 1.5B profit. However a few day later after getting another BIG return on another PI item, I reinvesting into GS's why not at the time it was still too cheap. Purchase another 450,000 units at 3,000 ISK. Turned around and sold em for 5,150, for a sale of 1B (That's the 1B in that post) So sales was 2.5B total. It's actually a 2.6B.
What is misleading about what I just posted in this thread is that 8B profit includes the 1B in GS. So sorry for misleading there, but the statement is still the same. If I didn't sell out I wouldn't have been able to buy other items.
Would I invest into that now? NO FREAKING WAY, there are far better opportunity out there. But a week ago, GS's was a good investment.
All your other brainless Goons, this is PERSONAL INVESTMENT nothing to do with EBANK.. I have more personal ISK then EBANK ISK. 
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.07.08 05:45:00 -
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Originally by: Priscilla Fancypants So you're saying the 20mil units of guidance I have isn't worth holding onto say 20k unit? Ohdear time to dump now!!! 
You're dreaming if you think they'll hit 20K a unit.
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.07.08 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Kieselguhr Kid some other confirmations:
confirming that waiting a year to sell our millions of guidance systems for a 10,000% (27.5%/day) profit will make us very sad
confirming that 100% of your depositors would instantly take a deal under which you would pay them the stated value of their accounts in guidance systems valued at 40,000 isk a unit
confirming that at least one guy ITT could actually make that deal, were he stupid enough to take five impossible to move ME 2 titan BPOs in return for his greatly overvalued guidance systems
confirming that we will be flying titans made out of those BPOs long before Ebank makes enough isk to pay back its depositors around the second Sarah Palin administration
Confirming something in which you have no power over is like taking your foot and shoving it in your mouth 
Good read though, worthy of laughing at again.
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Priscilla Fancypants
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Posted - 2010.07.08 06:28:00 -
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Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Priscilla Fancypants So you're saying the 20mil units of guidance I have isn't worth holding onto say 20k unit? Ohdear time to dump now!!! 
You're dreaming if you think they'll hit 20K a unit.
If it doesn't hit 40k unit ill be shocked. Mr. Ebank here is counting on it reaching that. I personally plan to make my 400bil at 20k unit :3:.
Orginally the prediction was 4-5k unit in 2-3months, It hit 10k unit in 3 weeks.
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mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 06:48:00 -
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Edited by: mechtech on 08/07/2010 06:48:40
Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Priscilla Fancypants So you're saying the 20mil units of guidance I have isn't worth holding onto say 20k unit? Ohdear time to dump now!!! 
You're dreaming if you think they'll hit 20K a unit.
IMO you're dead wrong. Consumer electronics are going up. Mechanical parts are going up. They already take 40k isk to build. On what basis do you make your assumption? If you have solid reasoning, please discuss it, that's the point of this thread. Being combative is just making you look incompetent and look like a common troll.
Furthermore, you cashed out a small amount of guidance systems. Many of us have well over 100B worth of them that we plan to liquidate over a period of months. We can't simply dump and buy up other PI on a whim like you can. Also, anyone that had foresight has a basket of multiple PI goods. I for example, would not want to liquidate and GS and buy other P2/P3, because I already have the other P2/P3 that's going up. Schizophrenic buying and selling isn't the safest way to make isk. You can turn stock quickly with less than 10B isk, but if you're investing real isk into PI, it's in your best interest to make calculated moves and wait, much like the stock market.
"I have to lower my posts down meet the metal capacity of those talking to me..." is not a way to start a post, that's simply a way to spur people into making EBANK jokes.
"You're dreaming if you think they'll hit 20K a unit." is a terrible post as well, lets discuss why... I'll start with my argument.
Consumer electronics are going up, mechanical parts are going up (and going up because it's a ***** to make mech parts in high sec), and they already take 40k isk to build. Also, stockpile volumes are overstated. Demand for guidance systems wasn't only in the forge pre-patch. Producers bought GSs from NPCs all over eve, and if you take a look at the total volume being traded (Sinq Laison consumed as much as The Forge pre-patch for example), the demand for GS is very very high. Because of this, I believe GSs will keep rising steadily (with a few short periods of leveling out as players cash out) to at least 40k a unit. People with large stocks of over 10m guidance systems (such as the Goon investors, and me with 20m of them) will bleed them onto the market in the coming 6 months once the build cost meets the selling price.
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Grozen
Caldari Titan Core New Eden Research.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:21:00 -
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Edited by: Grozen on 08/07/2010 10:22:47 holy cow sunday when i was observing things were calm and prices even fell down a bit.But today most of the stuff is shooting up and gs-2m units traded so far today!!!!! Price up to 14k in a DAY. knowledge is power |
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.07.08 10:44:00 -
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Damn, seems I missed my chance at selling them for 5k... ;(
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mental maverick
Duty. Duty. Private Security
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Rakshasa Taisab Damn, seems I missed my chance at selling them for 5k... ;(
Yeah, same here. I feel so stupid right now. I should have listened when I had the chance. I mean how could I miss it when there is a veritable novel on the forums explaining why GSs are the worst investment ever. 
^^Might regret that later but I very much doubt it 
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Maria Yumeno
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Posted - 2010.07.08 11:57:00 -
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lol... i had a spare 100m lying around a couple of days ago, so i bought up a few gs at 8k p/u.
Checked last night and they were still pretty low so i just kept them listed at 13k. never thought they would double in price over a couple of days. ohh well, at least a made a few mill on them.
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Rakshasa Taisab
Caldari Sane Industries Inc. Initiative Mercenaries
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Posted - 2010.07.08 12:09:00 -
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Now at 18k. I guess this bubble will burst at any moment and vindicate early sellers.
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Vilgan Mazran
Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2010.07.08 12:24:00 -
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Edited by: Vilgan Mazran on 08/07/2010 12:25:15
Originally by: SencneS
Originally by: Priscilla Fancypants So you're saying the 20mil units of guidance I have isn't worth holding onto say 20k unit? Ohdear time to dump now!!! 
You're dreaming if you think they'll hit 20K a unit.
18.2k/unit now. Perhaps you might want to amend your statement?
Will probably drop a bit short term, but still well on their way towards 30-40k/unit. Heck, the huge difference in build cost vs sell cost is despite the fact that transmitters are still artificially low due to being npc sold as well. Still another 2k to go on transmitters most likely.
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Maria Yumeno
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Posted - 2010.07.08 12:49:00 -
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Edited by: Maria Yumeno on 08/07/2010 12:50:32 Edited by: Maria Yumeno on 08/07/2010 12:50:11
Originally by: SencneS Edited by: SencneS on 08/07/2010 04:12:21 I'll give you one... Goons purchased many millions of these and their own personal analysis of them they realized it was a poor choice and they want out for as much as they can get. So they come in here post in every PI thread that Guidance Systems are the best investment out there.
I got out of it when they where 5K couldn't be happier, made a fortune, moved onto something else that is actually going somewhere.
All these goons in this forum toting GS's one must ask... WHY? OH YEAH that's right they already said they purchased MILLIONS of them.
It's your own wallet funeral if you get sucked into something that the Goon's want you to do.
The goons would have made u a fortune had you only had some patience 
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Lt Angus
Caldari the united Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2010.07.08 13:52:00 -
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Im sure hes made a lot more then 4x that with the money hes liquidated by now, PI hopping is an easy double up+ per day on anything you can throw at it please resize your signature to the maximum allowed file size of 24000 bytes. Navigator Shhhh, Im hunting Badgers |

pmchem
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.08 14:41:00 -
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I stopped posting because I had to sleep, why did sencnes stop posting in this thread?
oh, wait, another overnight price doubling
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SencneS
Rebellion Against Big Irreversible Dinks
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Posted - 2010.07.08 15:15:00 -
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Originally by: Maria Yumeno The goons would have made u a fortune had you only had some patience 
LOL So goons FINALLY put their money where their mouth was and purchased up the inventory in Jita in an attempt to manipulate this SLOW MOVING market. Good you guys you're starting to think like REAL Marketeers!
Cashflow has no room for patience. Here is a proverb, Never look a gift horse in the mouth.
Assuming I DID hold onto my original purchase all this time, I'd have to sell at the same time everyone else is trying to sell for, people with MILLIONS of units. That's not a good market position. You want to know what would make me regret not holding them.. If they where 40K right now.. Why? Because then that would represent profit I could not have obtained doing what I am doing. Hell right now it's barely even 1B ISK more then what I've made off PI overall. But guess what I still have inventory of other PI items and I still haven't reached my full realized profit.
You better hope half of High-sec doesn't jump on the bandwagon and start pumping these things out. Here is a sheet with what I'm capable of producing with a setup using a binary planet setup, in which they all planets produce GS's with minimal logistics. They all produce excess and the excess is moved to the other plants once every few days. Not much logistics since they are all in the same system and a Inty IV can handle it.
I got to tell ya... 600mil for the minimal effort.. That'll keep me in PLEXs for a long time.
PS- I alway re-read before I post just in case.. I too went to bed.. Here is my continuation.
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Dramaticus
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2010.07.08 15:18:00 -
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we're too dumb to manipulate a market
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