^ those streets were alot safer, until the allies invaded germany, then alot of gun deaths started happening.

Hey I like this idea!

It would mean that there is a reduced chance of being beat up for no reason and then charged with felony assault.
It would mean no tax revenuers waddling around looking to ticket you for anything.


What a moron. I grew up next to "his" city, where you cannot get a handgun without a $300 dollar permit and a special permission slip from the police chief, and forget about carrying it unless you are a cop, a celebrity, or a politician. I was raised in an environment where anybody who was bigger could decide to do whatever they wanted to you with extremely small chance of consequences, where most of the women I knew all had a "walk like a man mode" to keep from getting raeped if they had to walk home alone, where having a breakdown with your car on the Cross Bronx Expressway was comparable to a fighter pilot being shot down over enemy territory.

(where everybody acts "cosmopolitan" and "tolerant" yet they will pay a quarter million bucks at least for a 2BR no land house with a 10K/yr property tax out in Sayvile or East Islip and when they talk about it, you will hear "because the n**gers and s**cs can't get out this far" - bunch of hypocrits)


Yeah, that's Bloomberg's city.

Does this mean we need to fire up bomber command again?

Much of the "American Blame Game" is media driven...


Jordan Ghawi, brother of victim Jessica Ghawi: Here's the thing, we can try to politicize this and make some sort of polarizing debate and make this a tenet of the election, but that's not what we're here to do right now. We're here to celebrate the lives of the victims that have been lost.

If somebody wants to do harm to somebody, they're going to find a way to do it. Whether it be with a weapon, such as a rifle or whether it be with any sort of means we should actually start to think about why people are doing this. And the reason why they're doing this is because they want their names out there.

4 guys died saving their girlfriends, that's noble.

Please don't try to lump us all in with the stereotype... some of us are way better marksmen than that failure.... 4 guns and 12 dead in a crowded theater? Pathetic...

I am sure the AK versus AR debaters are going to be all over this for a while.

..."police say 70 people were wounded". The .223 round really sucks that much?

Hmm never heard of that before. Sounds like more bombs killed germans, then allied guns did. I suppose adolf ****** should have outlawed bombs to make the german people more safe.

4 guys died saving their girlfriends, that's noble.

Please don't try to lump us all in with the stereotype... some of us are way better marksmen than that failure.... 4 guns and 12 dead in a crowded theater? Pathetic...

i date beafy girls for this reason, human shield.. you can replace a girlfriend, a piece of your nose, or your life, not so much.

I guess it did considering the only just over 30% of our nation owns a firearm meaning that an awful lot of people appear to be failing to get on the defense train. Of course this doesn't even include the fact that many of us have already stated what we use our weapons for in another thread, which did not even include this self defense that every one claims. But what would I, a gun owner, know compared to somebody on the other side of the world right? Right?

Thank you for your lack of sources.

Doh, it's tough to get through certain skulls...

ANY NUMBER of people who arm themselves for self-defense from armed foreigners become armed foreigners and thus a reason why ANY NUMBER of people will arm themselves for self-defense, thus feeding back a vicious circle.

It doesn't matters the number: becoming armed because of armed people is going to trigger the appearence of more armed people to arm against

Then it comes the point in which a certain share of armed people will be mass killers and a certain share of weapons will be used for crime.

For instace sake: If the chances of a firearm owner becoming a mass killer in country X where 1 in 50 million per year, then a country X with 50 million firearm owners would experience 1 mass killing per year, whereas country Y with 10 millon firearm owners would experience it each 5 years.

Doh, it's tough to get through certain skulls...

ANY NUMBER of people who arm themselves for self-defense from armed foreigners become armed foreigners and thus a reason why ANY NUMBER of people will arm themselves for self-defense, thus feeding back a vicious circle.

It doesn't matters the number: becoming armed because of armed people is going to trigger the appearence of more armed people to arm against

Then it comes the point in which a certain share of armed people will be mass killers and a certain share of weapons will be used for crime.

For instace sake: If the chances of a firearm owner becoming a mass killer in country X where 1 in 50 million per year, then a country X with 50 million firearm owners would experience 1 mass killing per year, whereas country Y with 10 millon firearm owners would experience it each 5 years.

You have a citation for this interesting bit of data? I would really like to see a poll or something on reasons for owning a gun.

I would just like to see how many are owning a gun because they want to shoot someone.

-----> arm themselves for self-defense <-----

This is the part where you keep failing. You keep assuming people armed themselves for self defense. That is *not* the primary reason. I'll give you some hints:

- The US has one of the best (if not *the best*) wildlife conservation programs.
- Wildlife conservation programs are funded by taxes from firearms and ammunition sales.
- The government doesn't directly control heard population levels, instead they set season and bag limits.
- Venison is good.

...and this is why I don't debate on this issue.

Here's another tip as per why people arm themselves around these parts. Lets start with a little history:

"Pigs were first introduced in the 1500GÇÖs to what is now the southeastern U.S. by Spanish Explorer, Hernando DeSoto. In the centuries following European exploration and colonization of the eastern U.S., free-range livestock management practices and escapes from enclosures resulted in the establishment of wild pig populations and promoted their spread" ~ Linky

- There's no set hunting season on pigs in Florida. You can hunt them all year round.
- Pigs are an invasive species and we want to get rid of them.

Why are you talking about hunting weapons now? Your point was that not being allowed to have weapons for self-defense is bad, and i've been talking against that since my first answer to you.

We have to do the same thing with the coyotes up here. In small groups they aren't so bad, in larger numbers they start getting really confident.

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