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Qoi New Eden Warriors	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:11:00 - [1] reported by CCP Wrangler \| 2010.07.07 16:59:23 \| NEW Today Eva "Ankhesentapemkah" Jobse was removed from the Council of Stellar Management due to a breach of the non-disclosure agreement (NDA). We are deeply saddened but feel that it was the only possible solution in order to protect the integrity of the Council of Stellar Management. As this is a matter regarding confidential data we do consider this to be a private issue between Eva and CCP, therefore we are unable to comment further. discuss.
Elise Randolph Habitual Euthanasia Cry Havoc.	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:12:00 - [2] So uh, since I was 15th does this mean I'm now an alternate 8) --- Sup~
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:13:00 - [3] I suppose some dev went emo about what she wrote in that blog?
Crawford McKinley	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:16:00 - [4] ye i'm gonna go ahead and say this was because she made the comment about CCP's position regarding them doing jack **** about fixing the game as shinies are more important to them. guess CCP don't read SHC forums or anywhere else as mynxee and other CSM's said exactly the same thing lol
Shigsy Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:18:00 - [5] Originally by: Crawford McKinley ye i'm gonna go ahead and say this was because she made the comment about CCP's position regarding them doing jack **** about fixing the game as shinies are more important to them. guess CCP don't read SHC forums or anywhere else as mynxee and other CSM's said exactly the same thing lol inb4 ankh carebear white knight squ.... nvm I would hope she also got banned ingame aswell? Need update, as anything less would be an injustice. _________________________________
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:20:00 - [6] Originally by: Shigsy Originally by: Crawford McKinley ye i'm gonna go ahead and say this was because she made the comment about CCP's position regarding them doing jack **** about fixing the game as shinies are more important to them. guess CCP don't read SHC forums or anywhere else as mynxee and other CSM's said exactly the same thing lol inb4 ankh carebear white knight squ.... nvm I would hope she also got banned ingame aswell? Need update, as anything less would be an injustice. Why would she be banned in game? Larkonis wasnt.
Herschel Yamamoto Agent-Orange Nabaal Syndicate	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:22:00 - [7] Originally by: Furb Killer Why would she be banned in game? Larkonis wasnt. Lark did get banned, it was just a 30-day.
Jasdemi Caldari Caldari Manufacturing	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:23:00 - [8] Haha, feels really good to hear. CCP now announce that you're gonna remove the learning skills and it will be the one of the most happy days ever! =-=-=-=-= REMOVE LEARNINGS, FFS!
I SoStoned Caldari	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:24:00 - [9] Originally by: Crawford McKinley ye i'm gonna go ahead and say this was because she made the comment about CCP's position regarding them doing jack ** about fixing the game as shinies are more important to them. guess CCP don't read SHC forums or anywhere else as mynxee and other CSM's said exactly the same thing lol Why would such a comment get her booted? EVERY** Eve player who's been in game more than two expansions knows they release stuff half-done and never touch it again except (maybe) to shut off the ISK faucet of farming (COSMOS plexes, FW LP exploiting) without touching the core failures of the expansion. It's the life of Eve. --- Dreamer: My dream, Freddy! MY RULES. Freddy Kruger: groans Awwwww, f**k. --- Never give up!
Musical Fist Gallente NAP Coalition	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:25:00 - [10] NAP-C takes full credit for this Although more information would be nice BR anyone? -- New NAP Coalition campaign started, want to be rich, powerful and elite? Join 'NAP Coalition' public channel for more info Bitter / mad, yup sounds about right

Shintai Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:26:00 - [11] Edited by: Shintai on 07/07/2010 17:27:31 She was also so unfit for CSM that it couldnt be any worse. Perfectly she is gone. I hope she also get a ban! She was nothing buy a power hungry wannabee that lied and spammed en mass. -------------------------------------- Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
Larkonis Trassler EMIX INC	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:26:00 - [12] Originally by: Herschel Yamamoto Originally by: Furb Killer Why would she be banned in game? Larkonis wasnt. Lark did get banned, it was just a 30-day. The CSM White Paper has been adjusted since then and it's not as if she enjoys the game ... They say immitation is the highest form of flattery and I, for one, welcome our new Mazz overlord (how horribly ironic). In all seriousness I think everyone needs to chill the **** out until the facts are known.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:27:00 - [13] Originally by: Shigsy Edited by: Shigsy on 07/07/2010 17:23:11 Originally by: Furb Killer Originally by: Shigsy Originally by: Crawford McKinley ye i'm gonna go ahead and say this was because she made the comment about CCP's position regarding them doing jack **** about fixing the game as shinies are more important to them. guess CCP don't read SHC forums or anywhere else as mynxee and other CSM's said exactly the same thing lol inb4 ankh carebear white knight squ.... nvm I would hope she also got banned ingame aswell? Need update, as anything less would be an injustice. Why would she be banned in game? Larkonis wasnt. Yes he was you moron. Also what she did was clearly alot worse than what Lark did, as she was removed from the CSM whereas Lark was asked to resign. My mistake (you can breath again, relax). As long as there is no reason given there is no reason to assume she did something worse than lark. Maybe she was also asked to resign but refused. Lark attempted to get ingame advantage using his CSM info, if ankh just leaked something it isnt as bad imo. But that is pretty pointless speculation.

CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:29:00 - [14] Removed personal attacks and spam. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:30:00 - [15] Originally by: Furb Killer As long as there is no reason given there is no reason to assume she did something worse than lark. Maybe she was also asked to resign but refused. Lark attempted to get ingame advantage using his CSM info, if ankh just leaked something it isnt as bad imo. But that is pretty pointless speculation. Ah, furb killer, always quick to jump the defend-ankh bandwagon. I for one am happy to say that I also do not know what she did and thus I cannot comment on whether it was 'worse' than what lark did. (apparently there is a clearly defined scale of those things somewhere, please point me to it!). In fact it doesn't matter what she did, the consequence is what matters. á I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything.
TeaDaze	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:30:00 - [16] Originally by: Elise Randolph So uh, since I was 15th does this mean I'm now an alternate 8) Good question. I don't believe that happened during Larkgate (best gate) but as CSM5 still has 9 months left who knows what CCP will decide. TeaDaze.net Blog \| CSM Database
Johan Moisander Caldari Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:31:00 - [17] Originally by: CCP Wrangler Today Eva "Ankhesentapemkah" Jobse was removed from the Council of Stellar Management due to a breach of the non-disclosure agreement (NDA). We are deeply saddened but feel that it was the only possible solution in order to protect the integrity of the Council of Stellar Management. As this is a matter regarding confidential data we do consider this to be a private issue between Eva and CCP, therefore we are unable to comment further. Nice going CCP, so you are kicking out the only CSM that actually dares to stand up for the playerbase, that doesn't just use the CSM charade (because that's what it is) as a way to get a free trip to Iceland, and for what? For actually trying to keep the community informed, for being the only one promote the transparency which was the WHOLE POINT WITH THE CSM IN THE FIRST PLACE? And her replacement? Another elitist pvp'er, the people that CCP so love to favor. The CSM is a sham, a PR ploy and that's it, it's more obvious now than it ever has been before; CCP doesn't care about what the playerbase thinks, it's all just damage control from a terribly managed company with a serious lack of professionalism or business ethics. It's just sad to see good people who actually mean well get dragged into it and humiliated publicly in this manner. I fully expect this post to be deleted/censored, fully in line with CCP's policy to get rid of anyone/anything that doesn't blindly fanboi and defend them. Removed discussion of moderation. Zymurgist
Frisky God	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:32:00 - [18] Originally by: Ankh In my opinion, the current CSM is the best and most productive so far, and I look forward to working with the other council members the coming year! Or not.
Furb Killer Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:33:00 - [19] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Furb Killer As long as there is no reason given there is no reason to assume she did something worse than lark. Maybe she was also asked to resign but refused. Lark attempted to get ingame advantage using his CSM info, if ankh just leaked something it isnt as bad imo. But that is pretty pointless speculation. Ah, furb killer, always quick to jump the defend-ankh bandwagon. I for one am happy to say that I also do not know what she did and thus I cannot comment on whether it was 'worse' than what lark did. (apparently there is a clearly defined scale of those things somewhere, please point me to it!). In fact it doesn't matter what she did, the consequence is what matters. I didnt know i had to post a full scale of possible actions and how bad i would think they are, before i get your permission to make a post. I am sorry for this oversight and will correct it next time. It seems pretty logical to me though, using the info for ingame advantage is worse for me than for example telling people CCP doesnt think FW is a problem if that was under NDA. But like i already said, and apparently you missed (you honestly miss quite often stuff that is written), it is all pointless speculation.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:34:00 - [20] In her blog, Eva discusses measures that CCP are planing to implement to reduce lag. She mentions two specific actions that they are planing. Since this is technical insider knowledge, I am pretty sure this is covered by the NDA. You can read her blog at: http://eve-takecare.net/

Creepy Goat Schindlers Ignore List	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:36:00 - [21] Well thank god for that. Signature not appropriate - Adida
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:38:00 - [22] Originally by: Johan Moisander Nice going CCP, so you are kicking out the only CSM that actually dares to stand up for the playerbase, Ehmà in what way? She certainly doesn't represent my interests in any way, shape, or form, and doesn't in the slightest "stand up for" anything I'd like to take to or from the CSM meetings. Quote: And her replacement? Another elitist pvp'er, the people that CCP so love to favor. Good. Seems suitable, being a PvP game and allà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
solidshot	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:39:00 - [23] Originally by: Johan Moisander Nice going CCP, so you are kicking out the only CSM that actually dares to stand up for the playerbase, The only players she represented are the whiny little carebears that have helped erode this game over the past couple of years... Signature removed as outside forum rules.Please mail [email protected] for more information.Laurelin
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:41:00 - [24] Originally by: Nareg Maxence In her blog, Eva discusses measures that CCP are planing to implement to reduce lag. She mentions two specific actions that they are planing. Since this is technical insider knowledge, I am pretty sure this is covered by the NDA. You can read her blog at: http://eve-takecare.net/ Just a general FYI; she was not kicked over stuff mentioned in her CSM blog. á I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything.
Nyphur Pillowsoft Total Comfort	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:41:00 - [25] Originally by: Nareg Maxence In her blog, Eva discusses measures that CCP are planing to implement to reduce lag. She mentions two specific actions that they are planing. Since this is technical insider knowledge, I am pretty sure this is covered by the NDA. Actually, all that information is years old. It's been in CCP's development pipeline since about 2008. They had devblogs on it and I've mentioned it in articles I've written so it's all public knowledge. EVE-Tanking.com - Helping you keep your hull in-tact.
Helicity Boson Amarr The Python Cartel. The Jerk Cartel	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:41:00 - [26] my 10 dollars is on "Ankh is unstable and throws spoons at people, how can we get rid of her subtly!? OH LOOK! BREACH OF NDA!" punt
Barakkus Caelestis Iudicium	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:41:00 - [27] You all realize that the CSM is nothing more than a PR thing for CCP. I love CCP, I consider myself a fanboi, but in reality any type of player interaction on that kind of level is just a PR thing. Will they use the interaction with the CSM for planning development to some degree? Yes. Will it really make any huge difference in the direction of EVE? Not really. Why would you sit there and bite the hand that feeds you so to speak and not expect consequences for it? It's not surprising she got booted, if I was CCP, I'd be kicking her to the curb too, it's bad PR to have crap like that said when you're SUPPOSED to be doing something to improve public relations for them. I would not be surprised if her "observations" on CCPs attitude were a wee bit skewed anyways. CCP isn't some giant governemental agency out to oppress it's players etc...they will do what they need to do to produce a product that will garner more sales for them, that's the whole point of being an entertainment company. Too many people treat gaming companies and developers like they are "the man" and do this angsty teen rebellion crap. She seemed pretty useless anyways. I would not be surprised if they ended up cancelling the CSM soon and just rely on feedback from some of the more vocal and level-headed posters on the forums like a lot of gaming companies do. The CSM was a good idea on paper, but from watching it here and there, I think it's turning into a PR disaster. Originally by: CCP Dropbear rofl edit: ah crap, dev account. Oh well, official rofl at you sir.
Cinori Aluben Minmatar Gladiators of Rage	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:44:00 - [28] Wow, not only is there some heavy drama within New Eden currently, but on the CSM too! Listen, I've never been an Ankh fan in general for the CSM, however, I do hope this has nothing to do with her blog summarizing the summit. If so, that's kinda petty. That being said, I don't know all the facts, and she does have a tendency to say stuff that perhaps she shouldn't on other occasions, so who knows what she said when... we'll just have to wait and see if any further info comes out. Whatever the case, it seems as though her longtime reign in the CSM has come to an end. Although I didn't want you on the CSM in the first place, you did put a lot of effort and time into your campaign, so I will say, I'm sorry Ankh. Bummer.
Nareg Maxence Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:45:00 - [29] Originally by: Sokratesz Just a general FYI; she was not kicked over stuff mentioned in her CSM blog. Thanks. I am a bit surprised actually, since that was the first mention of those specific actions that I have seen, and yes I do read the devblogs, especially the technical ones. I am guessing some of the wild rumours that have been flying around has some truth to them after all. :)
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.07.07 17:47:00 - [30] <breaking the new no-rumours-rules> àso that's how the "W-space is getting shut down" rumours got started! </breaking the new no-rumours-rules> (If nothing else, let's see how long it takes for that insinuation to be turned into "fact".) ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki



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