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JennyD	Posted - 2010.07.10 02:03:00 - [511] Originally by: Bagehi The AAA Citizens (2668 members) CSM delegate? The Against All Authorities (2587 members) CSM delegate? (1260 votes) Sorry TeaDaze, I'm not going to list 102 alliances to reach your alliance that magically pulled 1553 votes out of 255 members. Mazz pulled 1178 votes out of PL's 917 members. Another magic trick! how sweet I knew that somewhere there was someone that thought AAA had no influence on their citizens and that PL members have no alts . While we at it I will have to burst your bubble even more sweetie , us girls , we do um , pee , poo anf pass wind occasionally . sorry
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.07.10 05:42:00 - [512] Originally by: Delilah Wild It could be that Ank made a serious breach of the non-disclosure agreement, and CCP with all due legal diligence announced her departure from the CSM in a well coordinated and strategized manner. Or it could be that someone in CCP made a mistake, jumped the gun, and CCP is now trying to quietly clean up the mess. We don't know, and without an evidentiary finding from some credible source, the allegation that she violated a DNR remains just that, an allegation. I'm not trying to say that transparency and accountability on the part of CCP is unimportant, or that representative bodies like the CSM do not raise issues that transcend narrow legal interpretations of what a corporation can, should or ought to do. But we are all in the dark here. Until that changes, one can only speculate. I doubt that is a good use of our time. Delilah Why do you so desperately want there to be something that incriminates CCP? Is it so hard to believe that the love of your life has done something wrong? á I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything.
NereSky Gallente Domination.	Posted - 2010.07.10 06:06:00 - [513] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Delilah Wild It could be that Ank made a serious breach of the non-disclosure agreement, and CCP with all due legal diligence announced her departure from the CSM in a well coordinated and strategized manner. Or it could be that someone in CCP made a mistake, jumped the gun, and CCP is now trying to quietly clean up the mess. We don't know, and without an evidentiary finding from some credible source, the allegation that she violated a DNR remains just that, an allegation. I'm not trying to say that transparency and accountability on the part of CCP is unimportant, or that representative bodies like the CSM do not raise issues that transcend narrow legal interpretations of what a corporation can, should or ought to do. But we are all in the dark here. Until that changes, one can only speculate. I doubt that is a good use of our time. Delilah Why do you so desperately want there to be something that incriminates CCP? Is it so hard to believe that the love of your life has done something wrong? Why is the rest of the CSM trolling/flaming this , just let the thread die and get forgotten as most threads of this type are
Libin Herobi	Posted - 2010.07.10 06:15:00 - [514] Originally by: Taladool Edited by: Taladool on 10/07/2010 01:51:20 If I was her boss, and another, fairly major company such as CCP cited her for breaking an NDA, her job would at very least be on the line, and she would most likely be fired. If you can't trust your employees with your company secrets, they don't need to be your employees, that's just common sense. If I was a GM I would lock some threads...
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.07.10 06:17:00 - [515] Originally by: NereSky Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Delilah Wild It could be that Ank made a serious breach of the non-disclosure agreement, and CCP with all due legal diligence announced her departure from the CSM in a well coordinated and strategized manner. Or it could be that someone in CCP made a mistake, jumped the gun, and CCP is now trying to quietly clean up the mess. We don't know, and without an evidentiary finding from some credible source, the allegation that she violated a DNR remains just that, an allegation. I'm not trying to say that transparency and accountability on the part of CCP is unimportant, or that representative bodies like the CSM do not raise issues that transcend narrow legal interpretations of what a corporation can, should or ought to do. But we are all in the dark here. Until that changes, one can only speculate. I doubt that is a good use of our time. Delilah Why do you so desperately want there to be something that incriminates CCP? Is it so hard to believe that the love of your life has done something wrong? Why is the rest of the CSM trolling/flaming this , just let the thread die and get forgotten as most threads of this type are I am running a secret plan that involves loads of mutated hamsters and a duplication of the eve cluster. It will also involve me making millions (mTTllions) of dollars and sipping pina coladas for the rest of my life. There is one problem however, and that is that these mutated hamsters do not eat mere hamster food, no, they feed on two very rare elements, 'lulz' and 'drama', and I feared that my evil plan was doomed to fail because of a lack of these two vital elements. Much to my relief however, Ankhmas has provided me with a near infinite supply of both 'lulz' and 'drama', and I am harvesting them greedily as we speak. Therefor it is in my best interests that these threads be perpetuated as long as possible so I can complete my evil plan and feed all the hamsters. á I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything.
Cobalt Sixty Caldari Intercision	Posted - 2010.07.10 07:46:00 - [516] Edited by: Cobalt Sixty on 10/07/2010 07:53:16 Originally by: NereSky Why is the rest of the CSM trolling/flaming this , just let the thread die and get forgotten as most threads of this type are Possibly because Ankhesencopypasta was (by many reports) a crazed ***** who was difficult to work around (let alone with) and they're (secretly or not) relieved to see the back of her. I'm not answering your question with the above, by the way. I'm not a member of the CSM so I can hardly take it upon myself to explain what they in particular post here. Not that I've really noticed any trolling from them compared to the majority of the rest of this thread.
Borgh Brainbasher Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group	Posted - 2010.07.10 09:15:00 - [517] Posting to confirm that each member of NMG has a average of 35 alts and this is how we got Mynx in. __________
AterraX Caldari	Posted - 2010.07.10 12:23:00 - [518] Originally by: Delilah Wild It could be that Ank made a serious breach of the non-disclosure agreement, and CCP with all due legal diligence announced her departure from the CSM in a well coordinated and strategized manner. Or it could be that someone in CCP made a mistake, jumped the gun, and CCP is now trying to quietly clean up the mess. We don't know, and without an evidentiary finding from some credible source, the allegation that she violated a DNR remains just that, an allegation. I'm not trying to say that transparency and accountability on the part of CCP is unimportant, or that representative bodies like the CSM do not raise issues that transcend narrow legal interpretations of what a corporation can, should or ought to do. But we are all in the dark here. Until that changes, one can only speculate. I doubt that is a good use of our time. Delilah She wasn't timid when she called PvP'ers for mentally unstable...the proff that she DID ** up is in her silence. It's only her alts/**** fanclub that thinks anyone else dosn't belives CPP's story. ____________________________________________________________________________________________________ Fact of EVE forums: They will always come an anounomys alt-toon and question someones character...
Delilah Wild	Posted - 2010.07.10 13:53:00 - [519] Well, Sokratesz, the answer is simple. Like others on this thread, I care about fairness both in-game and out. A rush to judgment aptly demonstrate why we do not leave important ethical, legal and policy decisions up to crowds. I'm not sure you appreciate how much your continued trolling undercuts your own credibility. This is so whether Ank is guilty or innocent. It also makes it difficult for other members of the CSM to maintain credibility in the face of widespread skepticism about the CSM process itself. This has already been called to your attention by the chair of the CSM. Please consider that before posting next time. Delilah friendsofeve.wordpress.com
Shawna Gray Gallente	Posted - 2010.07.10 14:10:00 - [520] Originally by: Sokratesz Originally by: Delilah Wild It could be that Ank made a serious breach of the non-disclosure agreement, and CCP with all due legal diligence announced her departure from the CSM in a well coordinated and strategized manner. Or it could be that someone in CCP made a mistake, jumped the gun, and CCP is now trying to quietly clean up the mess. We don't know, and without an evidentiary finding from some credible source, the allegation that she violated a DNR remains just that, an allegation. I'm not trying to say that transparency and accountability on the part of CCP is unimportant, or that representative bodies like the CSM do not raise issues that transcend narrow legal interpretations of what a corporation can, should or ought to do. But we are all in the dark here. Until that changes, one can only speculate. I doubt that is a good use of our time. Delilah Why do you so desperately want there to be something that incriminates CCP? Is it so hard to believe that the love of your life has done something wrong? Because Delilah is Ankhes alt. Its not the first time she has used alts to defend herself.
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.07.10 14:28:00 - [521] Originally by: Shawna Gray Because Delilah is Ankhes alt. Its not the first time she has used alts to defend herself. If that's true she has been doing so very neatly, mad props. Originally by: Delilah Wild Well, Sokratesz, the answer is simple. Like others on this thread, I care about fairness both in-game and out. A rush to judgment aptly demonstrate why we do not leave important ethical, legal and policy decisions up to crowds. Lol. Get off your **ing high horse. CCP ruled that she violated their trust enough so as to kick her off the CSM, and considering that we haven't been told more and that she herself stays quiet about it, we can assume that it was done so rightfully. As Liang Nuren has already explained elsewhere, CCP also has no obligation to tell us anything about the circumstances, precisely because of the legal implications of an NDA violation. Originally by:** Delilah Wild I'm not sure you appreciate how much your continued trolling undercuts your own credibility. This is so whether Ank is guilty or innocent. That's ok with me, I don't need any credibility with people like you. Originally by: Delilah Wild Please consider that before posting next time. I did, and I lol'd, and then posted anyway. á I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything.
Mel Lifera Gallente Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service	Posted - 2010.07.10 15:47:00 - [522] I see that people are still laboring under the delusion that CCP is accountable to the player base for it's actions in this case. The CSM exists solely because CCP wants it to. áCSM members serve at the pleasure of CCP; the fact that they have to sign an NDA at all supports this. áThe fact that players vote for individual members means nothing more than that the most popular (for whatever reason) players are the ones who are permitted to serve on the CSM. áYour vote is a privilege of your having an EVE account and is a stand-alone benefit that implies nothing, not even the assurance that next year you'll have anything to vote for. áCCP's allowing you to vote does not place you on the board of directors, nor give you any right or say in how CCP conducts it's business, including how it administrates the CSM, anymore than voting for the name of NASA's newest ISS module gives you a say in what color they decide to paint it. áEven announcing that it was an NDA violation is frankly more than the company was ethically required to announce. I also love how people trying to make themselves sound important are demanding that CCP disclose the nature of the NDA violation while insisting that they 'don't need to give details' as if that makes any sense whatsoever. What a bunch of morons. There's only one 'kind' of NDA violation: disclosing protected information. áThat's literally it, the only possible way to break an NDA. áAnything more specific than that IS A DETAIL. But do not interrupt your tirades on my account. áThere've been more tears in this single thread than I've seen in almost an entire year of ninja'ing.
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.07.10 15:53:00 - [523] Originally by: Mel Lifera But do not interrupt your tirades on my account. áThere've been more tears in this single thread than I've seen in almost an entire year of ninja'ing. It's awesome á I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything.
Trygonus	Posted - 2010.07.10 16:03:00 - [524] With as many times as Sokratesz has posted in this thread you would think he was the one removed and not Ankhesentapemkah. Anyone have a count on his post in this thread alone? He is on every page multiple times.
Soy Salomon Caldari Envoy Corps Quebec Power	Posted - 2010.07.10 16:20:00 - [525] Originally by: Trygonus With as many times as Sokratesz has posted in this thread you would think he was the one removed and not Ankhesentapemkah. Anyone have a count on his post in this thread alone? He is on every page multiple times. 48
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.07.10 16:41:00 - [526] Originally by: Soy Salomon Originally by: Trygonus With as many times as Sokratesz has posted in this thread you would think he was the one removed and not Ankhesentapemkah. Anyone have a count on his post in this thread alone? He is on every page multiple times. 48 clap clap á I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything.
captain foivos	Posted - 2010.07.10 16:41:00 - [527] Originally by: Trygonus Anyone have a count on his post in this thread alone? OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND Originally by: CCP Shadow If you're going to quote me that's great, but it must be something I've actually said. Shadow.
Delilah Wild	Posted - 2010.07.10 16:42:00 - [528] Originally by: Trygonus With as many times as Sokratesz has posted in this thread you would think he was the one removed and not Ankhesentapemkah. Anyone have a count on his post in this thread alone? He is on every page multiple times. I've wondered about that too. Especially in light of a comment made by Mynxee in a recent post on her blog, Life in Low Sec. She says, Quote: People are probably expecting me to say something about Ankhesentapemkah's removal from the CSM by CCP. However, out of respect for CCP's request that CSM not discuss this matter with anyone other than CSM or our CCP contacts, I'm sorry to have to disappoint you. Smart people with some business insight can read between the lines of CCP's public announcement and formulate many plausible reasons why the release of more details would be a bad idea. I'll leave you to that mental exercise. It seems clear that Sokratesz is ignoring CCP's request, and Mynxee's common sense. Delilah friendsofeve.wordpress.com
captain foivos	Posted - 2010.07.10 16:44:00 - [529] MOAR QQ DELILAH, MOOAAAARRR Originally by: CCP Shadow If you're going to quote me that's great, but it must be something I've actually said. Shadow.
DeckardIRL The Randoms	Posted - 2010.07.10 16:54:00 - [530] Normally only Molle gets a threadnaught like this.... Deck Whiskey For CAOD at its best
Sokratesz	Posted - 2010.07.10 17:06:00 - [531] Originally by: Delilah Wild Quote: People are probably expecting me to say something about Ankhesentapemkah's removal from the CSM by CCP. However, out of respect for CCP's request that CSM not discuss this matter with anyone other than CSM or our CCP contacts, I'm sorry to have to disappoint you. Smart people with some business insight can read between the lines of CCP's public announcement and formulate many plausible reasons why the release of more details would be a bad idea. I'll leave you to that mental exercise. It seems clear that Sokratesz is ignoring CCP's request, and Mynxee's common sense. Delilah friendsofeve.wordpress.com You are, again, wholly mistaken. What they mean is the details of the NDA breach, which, quite unironically, are under NDA for now. á I think CSM is a pretty cool guy. eh creates e-drama and doesnt afraid of anything.
FinnAgain Zero Roving Guns Inc. RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2010.07.10 18:38:00 - [532] Originally by: Sokratesz You are, again, wholly mistaken. What they mean is the details of the NDA breach, which, quite unironically, are under NDA for now. Dude, she's not mistaken, she knows she's wrong and she's just trolling (yet again). It's hardly surprising. She's gone back into School Marm mode and is trying to find something, anything to scold people with. What, Mynxee said something? Scold scold scold scold! What, some CSM members said/did different things? Scold scold scold! That all the scolding is for people who are critical of Ank is just a coincidence. Naturally. Mynxee says that CCP asked the CSM not to discuss specifics of the NDA breach? Okay... well, then surely Sok can be scold scold scolded for something or other that has nothing to do with the NDA breach because, well, Mynxee said something and CCP and, well, scold scold scold! Beware the School Marm and her Ruler of Doom! Just like the troll claimed that while you were probably lying, if Ank really did throw a spoon at anybody else then, why, she'd support Ank being removed from the CSM! Except not only did she not do that, she immediately began requesting that instead you be removed from the CSM. DNFTT.
Thrasymachus TheSophist	Posted - 2010.07.10 20:11:00 - [533] Originally by: Delilah Wild I've wondered about that too. Especially in light of a comment made by Mynxee in a recent post on her blog, Life in Low Sec. She says, Quote: People are probably expecting me to say something about Ankhesentapemkah's removal from the CSM by CCP. However, out of respect for CCP's request that CSM not discuss this matter with anyone other than CSM or our CCP contacts, I'm sorry to have to disappoint you. Smart people with some business insight can read between the lines of CCP's public announcement and formulate many plausible reasons why the release of more details would be a bad idea. I'll leave you to that mental exercise. So, CSM obviously has more info. Every indication points to pretty clear/obvious NDA breach (which is to be expected given CCP's official post). I remain impressed with CCP's hardball approach, although admittedly we dont' know if some kind of hush-hush resolution was first attempted. Crappy situation all around. Shame on Eva, pity for CCP, and lulz at the CSM for not only having to suffer through impotence, but now gag orders and bilateral attacks as well. This game's pretty damn cool.
captain foivos	Posted - 2010.07.10 20:29:00 - [534] Originally by: Thrasymachus TheSophist This game's pretty damn cool. Yes, yes indeed it is. Originally by: CCP Shadow If you're going to quote me that's great, but it must be something I've actually said. Shadow.
Andreus LeHane Gallente Mixed Metaphor	Posted - 2010.07.10 20:31:00 - [535] This concerns me. Despite the fact that she was completely unlikeable Ankh seemed to be the only person who gave a toss about fixing FW. -----
Liang Nuren Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.07.10 20:45:00 - [536] Originally by: Andreus LeHane This concerns me. Despite the fact that she was completely unlikeable Ankh seemed to be the only person who gave a toss about fixing FW. Perhaps if she'd been more likable she'd have actually gotten it done instead of offending the CCP director (per her own blog post). Also, we don't have the minutes yet and there's more than one FW supporter in the CSM. -Liang -- Liang Nuren - Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
Sujanra Acoma Minmatar Shadow Kitty Legion	Posted - 2010.07.10 21:45:00 - [537] Originally by: JennyD Originally by: Bagehi The AAA Citizens (2668 members) CSM delegate? The Against All Authorities (2587 members) CSM delegate? (1260 votes) Sorry TeaDaze, I'm not going to list 102 alliances to reach your alliance that magically pulled 1553 votes out of 255 members. Mazz pulled 1178 votes out of PL's 917 members. Another magic trick! While we at it I will have to burst your bubble even more sweetie , us girls , we do um , pee , poo anf pass wind occasionally . sorry LIES BLATANT LIES AND TRICKERY RABBLE RABBLE
Turdilious	Posted - 2010.07.10 22:54:00 - [538] Originally by: Liang Nuren Perhaps if she'd been more likable she'd have actually gotten it done instead of offending the CCP director (per her own blog post). If the votes are anything to go by she was likeable.
Leil Ren'Do	Posted - 2010.07.10 23:58:00 - [539] Originally by: Delilah Wild Originally by: Trygonus With as many times as Sokratesz has posted in this thread you would think he was the one removed and not Ankhesentapemkah. Anyone have a count on his post in this thread alone? He is on every page multiple times. I've wondered about that too. Especially in light of a comment made by Mynxee in a recent post on her blog, Life in Low Sec. She says, Quote: People are probably expecting me to say something about Ankhesentapemkah's removal from the CSM by CCP. However, out of respect for CCP's request that CSM not discuss this matter with anyone other than CSM or our CCP contacts, I'm sorry to have to disappoint you. Smart people with some business insight can read between the lines of CCP's public announcement and formulate many plausible reasons why the release of more details would be a bad idea. I'll leave you to that mental exercise. It seems clear that Sokratesz is ignoring CCP's request, and Mynxee's common sense. Delilah friendsofeve.wordpress.com Dear Delilah, You're beyond starting to annoy me with your idioicity and pompous naivete. You're now on my **** list. Leil
FOEHAMMER006 Domini Umbrus DEFI4NT	Posted - 2010.07.11 02:34:00 - [540] Originally by: Andreus LeHane This concerns me. Despite the fact that she was completely unlikeable Ankh seemed to be the only person who gave a toss about fixing FW. Yes, because being in the CSM for quite some time has proven how much work she is capable of doing. --------------------------------

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