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I think you accidently made a very good point there.

Lowsec - ment to be inbetween the "safety" of highsec and the "lawless" null sec. I think that making gate guns un tankable would be a great move, it would offer new pvpers the options of pvping in low sec - scanning down plex's/missions, killing in belts etc. But at the same time giving the newer less experienced pvpers a option to vie out of pvp in lowsec. Dont get me wrong there should be no concord.


That i propose (because of the above post)

highsec - CONCORD/gate/station guns

Lowsec - gate and station guns

Nullsec - freefor all anything goes.

Isnt lowsec pretty much dead as it stands? Isnt the major problem CCP have is getting people in low/null? We need to stop thinking of how the mechanics are and what they are ment to be and rethink it all. I stand by this idea as a player from 2004 its the best thing suggested on these forums in a long time

I'm a highsec carebear.

I stay and play in high sec, i don't pvp, WHY?

Because pvp is all about numbers. its too 1 sided.

If i get jumped by a gang of pirates, I'm dead, GAME OVER. plain and simple.

It dosn't matter how much sp i have, it dosen't matter what ship i fly or how it is fitted, it dosen't matter how experienced or good i am at playing the game.

There is no hope or chance for me to fight my way out and escape or even take 1 or more of my attackers down with me.

most likely i will be pointed and dampened and dead within seconds before i can even target an attacking ship.

That is not fun, that is a gang of bullies beating up on someone they know damn well cannot fight back.

For me the risk Far outweighs any potential reward.

The ships in eve are made of paper, they die far too quickly and far too easerly. there is no epic battle, its primary target, click f1 to f8 sit back and watch target die in under 30 seconds.

Now i've played in low and null sec, i've been part pf a major alliance thats owned territory, i've been in CTA battles which involved flying 20 jumps into enemy teritory and then getting popped in seconds by 20+ enemy ships calling primery on me,

sitting back and thinking now that was fun !!!NOT!!!.

Now if you wanna get me back into low / null sec you need to give me a fighting chance. ships need to get segnificantly stronger.

If i get jumped by a gang of pirates, i wanna be able to put up a fight that will last several minutes. i wanna be able to shoot back and maybe take 1 or 2 smaller/weaker ships down with me.

A fight i can get my teeth into and not be over in under 30 sec.

Give me a fighting chance and rewards worth the risk and i will return to low / null sec.

Until then, I'll stick high sec and the industrial side of the game.

Not if it means turning low sec into high sec.

You are essentially suggesting we revitalise low sec by making it less like low sec. This game has already become ridiculously easy, dumbing it down even more because some people refuse to learn is just going to drive away what little is left of the loyal fan base.

It might give a brief burst in activity, but most of us who play Eve because it's challenging will simply quit. I've already lost the vast majority of my friends in Eve because they quit due to the direction the game has gone in over the last few years. I'd rather not lose the few players I know that still remain from when I first joined, all because some idiots can't get past gate camps.

Maybe its time to do some gardening, and pull out tho's last weeds and twisted bitter vines(vets) to improve the game and playerbase?

you're so wrong it's painful.

null is the most fun area of the game. the people are better, the array of activities are broader, there are no limits to what you can do in null in comparison to high sec.

There is an anti pont module...

It's called a warp core stabiliser

Unless you're on about the one that occasinally breaks locks ?

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So the problem is how to make high sec types want to go into low and null sec right?...

Mudflation is laughable. The balance of having rare minerals only in low sec balances the games ecomony alot. I really don't see alot of the problems some claim exist. My first character (Andrasta) opened in June 03, I recall people logging on after DT to sell to NPC corps while prices were still high (to stimulate ecomonic growth the NPCs bought minerals in fixed amounts). I have seen the ecomony of the game durings its entire existence and fail to see these adverse effects of high sec miners.

NULL SEC is boring

End of conversation

If you don't have a blob, sit tight n dock till people log on

High Sec

Missions
Mining
Exploration
Wh's

There is nothing i need nor want in null sec

If i need an ISK boost, ill buy 4 plexes and sell them.

EvE is fecked, remove plex, sort low sec out so gate guns and station guns ARE not tankable and more will go to low sec. Stop people camping choke points into null 24/7 n people will go there

You screw your own pvp areas on your own

stop bitching about high sec players when you cannot even show me a single thread were a high sec player has bitched about null sec being more profitable than his high sec

why?

BECAUSE US PLAYERS IN HIGH SEC DONT CARE ABOUT NULL/LOW SEC AT ALL

PvP Players - You whine and ***** worst than a woman on her period

Why do you high sec types assume we are all evil PvP players and pirates? I'm a care bear, tyvm, and I still think you're an idiot.

Those choke points are easy to identify and get past, if you can't be bothered to learn then you dont deserve to be able to make any significant amount of ISK in Eve.

If you can't get a few BPOs across Eve you should just uninstall now.