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Jacob Holland Gallente Weyland-Vulcan Industries	Posted - 2010.09.26 08:50:00 - [91] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: Victor Valka Delightful lack of werewolves and mages. Fixed. The cross-overs almost universally sucked anywayà While I'm glad that it is just Vampires I would disagree that the other games sucked... It's just that they were different games. Werewolf: The Apocolypse was splatterpunk, it was all about ripping people in half and impossible odds (not least because they were fighting the wrong enemy (the Weaver being far more dangerous to Ghia than the Wyrm). However, as separate games they don't play well together, immortality means very little when you know someone who can literally change all of the rules of reality around you. Mages in a computer game, Assension mages at least, would almost certainly suck. It might just about work for the Technocracy or the Order of Hermes but the limited number of effects possible within a coded framework would lead to spells as opposed to magic... Forces + Correspondence can be used for more than Fireballs after all -- Originally by: cordy Respect to IAC .Your one of the few people who truly deserve to own and live in the space you are in.
Flynn Fetladral Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2010.09.26 09:00:00 - [92] Originally by: Malcanis Originally by: Ghoest I find it completely bizarre that CCP has decided to switch to the gothic woman/gay male target demographic considering that they build the company with EVE. You dont think offering gullible middle-class kids a chance to talk about their inner selves and suffering in return for money is a good business plan? Yeah, this, and the fact, as I understand it, VTM has a MASSIVE following. So it should be pretty win for CCP. Look how mental everyone goes after the video is finished. I actually think, by design or not, CCP makes good calls on what demographics to go after to build alternative games (to the industry norms). Most people in the MMO industry only ever seem obsessed by being a 'WOW' Killer, and I guess who would blame them. But pure profit as a drive to build games tends to reap bland games. CCP is an indie studio that does not seem to lose its roots, even after how much they have expanded. It's been a long 7 years, but right now CCP is in an awesome place to make good MMOs, it can take risks and be cutting edge. What's more interesting is that when you consider EVE 7 years ago, and what it has grown from in relation to CCP as a start up company. Think of everything CCP wanted to do with EVE, but at the time was unable to for monetary and technical reasons. Both WOD and DUST514 are not going to be chained to such restrictions. CCP can realized its whole vision for these games right off the bat.
Dalmont Delantee Gallente Fidelis Discordia	Posted - 2010.09.26 09:02:00 - [93] Originally by: CCP Kepler Originally by: Cyan Whisper Does CCP/White-Wolf intend to release this as a Vampire: The Masquerade (Gothic-punk, dark comic graphic novel atmosphere) or a Vampire The Requiem The World of Darkness MMO will be based on Vampire: The Masquerade. You are a GOD, I don't get requiem :P Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons
Aera Aiana Amarr	Posted - 2010.09.26 09:57:00 - [94] Originally by: Ghoest I find it completely bizarre that CCP has decided to switch to the gothic woman/gay male target demographic considering that they build the company with EVE. You don't have to be gay to play fantasy games. Not being a complete jerk usually suffices. And why would it be bizarre? It ensures that there is not too much overlap in target audiences for EVE and WOD, so that WOD actually attracts additional customers as opposed to taking them away from eve. - Don't let the trolls stop you from giving a helpful reply. :)
Vic Tandi	Posted - 2010.09.26 10:09:00 - [95] Oh, thats why some new head models from Singularity client have vampire fangs
Erdiere Minmatar Erasers inc. Controlled Chaos	Posted - 2010.09.26 10:23:00 - [96] Originally by: Vic Tandi Oh, thats why some new head models from Singularity client have vampire fangs pics or gtfo
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.26 10:29:00 - [97] Originally by: Orange Lagomorph Witness Shadowrun 3rd compared to Shadowrun 4th. Pff! SR4 is almost as good as SR2! ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Vic Tandi	Posted - 2010.09.26 10:47:00 - [98] Edited by: Vic Tandi on 26/09/2010 10:51:56 Originally by: Erdiere Originally by: Vic Tandi Oh, thats why some new head models from Singularity client have vampire fangs pics or gtfo enjoy http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1009/mod1.png http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1009/mod2.png http://dl.eve-files.com/media/1009/mod3.png Fangs is just too big for jinmei male o/
Dalmont Delantee Gallente British Legion	Posted - 2010.09.26 12:26:00 - [99] Ars Magica was fantastic, I've always wanted to run a game on that, but I think it was too complicated for some of my ummm players... Take comfort in knowing that its probably some pimply faced twit, or 40 year old virgin, who gleens everytime mommy offfers to take them to needle point lessons
Brolly Caldari 13th Legion the lastchancers	Posted - 2010.09.26 13:29:00 - [100] Do eve players get first dibs on beta testing?
Meiyang Lee Gallente Azteca Transportation Unlimited Gunboat Diplomacy	Posted - 2010.09.26 13:39:00 - [101] Originally by: Brolly Do eve players get first dibs on beta testing? Incarna will presumably be out first (plan is summer 2011, WoD is planned for somewhere in 2012), so in a way we do. And CCP will probably let their community know when a Beta-test is going to be planned.
Ghoest	Posted - 2010.09.26 13:50:00 - [102] Originally by: Aera Aiana Originally by: Ghoest I find it completely bizarre that CCP has decided to switch to the gothic woman/gay male target demographic considering that they build the company with EVE. You don't have to be gay to play fantasy games. Not being a complete jerk usually suffices. And why would it be bizarre? It ensures that there is not too much overlap in target audiences for EVE and WOD, so that WOD actually attracts additional customers as opposed to taking them away from eve. \ I really dont think I implied at all that you have to be gay to roleplay or even enjoy roleplaying. I was strictly meaning just what I said - that it seemed like an odd demographic switch from one particular game to another particular game. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.09.26 14:55:00 - [103] Originally by: Ghoest I really dont think I implied at all that you have to be gay to roleplay or even enjoy roleplaying. I was strictly meaning just what I said - that it seemed like an odd demographic switch from one particular game to another particular game. What real difference is there between immortal bloodthirsty humans in space, and immortal bloodthirsty humans on Earth? Like i mentioned in my last post, you can thank Anne Rice for creating the idea you have about vampires. Twilight is a continuation of the same garbage, and i hate it all as much as anyone, but it's not the final word in the genre. White Wolf's vamps aren't the kind of angsty teenagers you find in most pop culture. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Brian Ballsack	Posted - 2010.09.26 14:57:00 - [104] Why do they even waste their money making trailers such as this ? I look forward to the game but that "Short film" did nothing.
Towaoc Caldari Applied Technologies Inc	Posted - 2010.09.26 15:04:00 - [105] Originally by: Flynn Fetladral Yeah so CCP finally 'officially' announced their second MMO, and showed a private screening of a short film. Here. It will be interesting to see how this pans out, and how it might influence CCP's work with EVE, more so with WIS and how it might move forward in the future. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure I saw a couple of Minmatar in there...
Mashie Saldana Minmatar Veto Corp	Posted - 2010.09.26 15:15:00 - [106] Cool, I hope Carbon lets me make a character that looks like this in WoD.
Kolatha	Posted - 2010.09.26 16:04:00 - [107] Edited by: Kolatha on 26/09/2010 16:04:56 Originally by: Professor Tarantula White Wolf's vamps aren't the kind of angsty teenagers you find in most pop culture. Maybe not the original intention, but they are the target audience for the game. If you spend any time with larger fan groups of the VTM you will find that it is dominated if not by angsty pop culture influenced teens then by angsty pop-culture influenced 20 somethings.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.26 16:07:00 - [108] Edited by: Tippia on 26/09/2010 16:09:30 Originally by: Kolatha Originally by: Professor Tarantula White Wolf's vamps aren't the kind of angsty teenagers you find in most pop culture. Maybe not the original intention, but they are the target audience for the game. If you spend any time with larger fan groups of the VTM you will find that it is dominated if not by angsty pop culture influenced teens then by angsty pop-culture influenced 20 somethings. Maybe, but those who started playing it back when it was good have now turned into pop-culture influenced 40 somethingsà (angst is optional). àand I do believe that VTM was very keen on the good old "age and guileà" quote, soà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Flynn Fetladral Brutal Deliverance	Posted - 2010.09.26 17:10:00 - [109] Originally by: Towaoc Originally by: Flynn Fetladral Yeah so CCP finally 'officially' announced their second MMO, and showed a private screening of a short film. Here. It will be interesting to see how this pans out, and how it might influence CCP's work with EVE, more so with WIS and how it might move forward in the future. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure I saw a couple of Minmatar in there... I swear I saw a naked chick in a bath of blood... pretty 'M' rated if you ask me... M for Minmatar.
Professor Tarantula Hedion University	Posted - 2010.09.26 17:24:00 - [110] Was speaking more about the characters and stories WoD has compared to the average Vampire fare, not the fans. It simply having Vampires will make the Twilight crowd show up, and they'll probably retch at the first sign of blood or the sound of a neck snapping. The main difference to me is in WoD you're more apt to see Vampires loving every minute of being one and feeling like gods than you are ones feeling sorry for themselves. Which is why i find their Vampires more realistic. Anne Rice had this 'ooo, poor me, i'm an ageless superhuman' thing going on which wore thin after awhile. My Warmest Regards. Prof. Tarantula, Esq.
Tub Chil	Posted - 2010.09.26 17:27:00 - [111] how you play this game? running in the streets sucking NPC blood?

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.09.26 17:33:00 - [112] Originally by: Jim Pooley Is it true you were going to call the engine "Charon" but got scammed? Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2010.09.26 17:46:00 - [113] Originally by: CCP Explorer Originally by: Jim Pooley Is it true you were going to call the engine "Charon" but got scammed? That's a "yes" if I ever saw oneà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki

CCP Explorer	Posted - 2010.09.26 17:50:00 - [114] Originally by: Aera Aiana Originally by: Ghoest I find it completely bizarre that CCP has decided to switch to the gothic woman/gay male target demographic considering that they build the company with EVE. You don't have to be gay to play fantasy games. Not being a complete jerk usually suffices. And why would it be bizarre? It ensures that there is not too much overlap in target audiences for EVE and WOD, so that WOD actually attracts additional customers as opposed to taking them away from eve. The Incarna expansion will expand EVE to the type of players that like a sci-fi setting but don't like being a spaceship all the time and want an avatar to connect to. DUST 514 will expand EVE to players that like a sci-fi setting but are console players or want a more fast-paced game (an FPS). At the same time the current EVE (that we will continue to evolve) will continue to appeal to sci-fi players that want a more slow-paced strategic game. World of Darkness will appeal to a different type of people so it won't (directly) compete with EVE and DUST 514. Erlendur S. Thorsteinsson Software Director EVE Online, CCP Games

Oorestes	Posted - 2010.09.26 18:28:00 - [115] Why would being gay have anything to do with the demographic at all? Jeez, some people. Gay people have been playing Eve since the beginning and are no more or less likely to be attracted to a vampire mmo than they are a spaceship mmo. We enjoy the same things the rest of you do ffs. Some of us like Vampires, some of us like spaceships, most of us like both. Just...like...you.
wizard87	Posted - 2010.09.26 18:37:00 - [116] It all begins, when Eve dies...
Comrade Tsukae	Posted - 2010.09.26 18:38:00 - [117] Originally by: Oorestes Why would being gay have anything to do with the demographic at all? Jeez, some people. Gay people have been playing Eve since the beginning and are no more or less likely to be attracted to a vampire mmo than they are a spaceship mmo. We enjoy the same things the rest of you do ffs. Some of us like Vampires, some of us like spaceships, most of us like both. Just...like...you. Glad to see a reasonable human being here.
Psiri	Posted - 2010.09.26 20:32:00 - [118] I'm interested to see how the game world will be built. Pherhaps CCP has a plan, because it just seems like an absolutely huge undertaking to do.
Mr M Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2010.09.26 20:36:00 - [119] Originally by: CCP Explorer Possibly, but World of Darkness had not been officially announced then, even though it's one of CCP's worst kept secrets... Don't run around with shirts saying <New Secret Gamename> if you try to keep things secret Eve Tribune\|EVEgeek\|Firebrand Radio
Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape	Posted - 2010.09.26 21:15:00 - [120] I hope, after CCP is swimming in all the emo kid money they're going to make from this, that they still remember to update and support little old EVE. Good luck you guys.

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