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Barakkus
Syndicate Asset Management
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Posted - 2010.10.04 18:52:00 -
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I'm not terribly sure why it's "financially not feasable" to continue developing the app...didn't make money off it to begin with...
Sounds like they're just doing the "I'm taking my toys and going home!" thing b/c they didn't get enough attention from CCP.
 Originally by: captain foivos
Who would recruit someone named Barakkus?
Wait a minute...
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Dhaul
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
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Posted - 2010.10.04 18:52:00 -
[32]
Android wins again :D
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Othran
Brutor tribe
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:02:00 -
[33]
Sorry to hear your tale of woe lads. I suspect next time around you'll know better than to have an unpaid app that the copyright holder can copy (features) without paying for.
I suspect that if you have the talent to do Capsuleer then you have the talent to do it for decent companies who will pay rather than "browse your ideas" and bodge them into a "social networking" app that is pretty crap.
Do it. Really. Don't let the fact you got screwed by a penny-ante company put you off.
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Siiee
Recycled Heroes
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:06:00 -
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As much as I like Capsuleer, knowing that you were just chomping at the bit to monetize it and since you can't you're taking your toy and going home, I just can't feel too bad about this.
The community will fill in the gaps, it may just take a while because the platform is so small.
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Potamus Jenkins
The Nintendo Generation
Snatch Victory
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:12:00 -
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android user checking in
i heart aura
searchable item database wat?
assest list wat??
suck it iphone
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:16:00 -
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well... for mac people EvE is still better than breakout... and superbreakout...
PC and android <3
Aura ftw
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Ephia
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:19:00 -
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This is a crying shame. Why oh why did you not charge for the application on the App Store!!?
That would have easily made enough to keep the servers up...
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Yvette Online
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:28:00 -
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That's really too bad  It was a nice lightweight little app that did exactly what I needed it to. I guess with the appearance of other apps like iClone, CCP figures they can just get this sort of service for free from their fanbase, so why pay?
For what it's worth, on behalf of myself and all the others who used and enjoyed this app regularly, thanks so much for all your hard work the past few years. CCP should be giving you guys free subscriptions for life after stringing you along and not bringing you aboard.
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Hesperius
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:38:00 -
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Originally by: Ephia
This is a crying shame. Why oh why did you not charge for the application on the App Store!!?
I am pretty sure that is what this rant is all about, CCP never signed the paperwork so they could charge for it without fear of losing in a court battle... even though both parties would lose (yay lawyer$!) if it went to court.
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Cadian Smith
Vengeance Imperium
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:39:00 -
[40]
Noes
@Roc Wieler: I would deffo payed money for this app.
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Mynxee
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Posted - 2010.10.04 19:51:00 -
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Very sad news, especially knowing how much time and effort has gone into development and in trying to work something out with CCP. But...good to hear that you and Chris are leveraging the considerable skills and expertise from Capsuleer on more commercially feasible projects.
Really gonna be hard to delete this app once the servers are down.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Amicus Morte
Shock an Awe
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:03:00 -
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Well this news totally sucks balls 
Thanks for all your hard work over the years.
Sol: A microwarp drive? In a battleship? Are you insane? They arenĘt built for this!
Clear Skies - The Movie
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Ticod
Minmatar
Dychotomy
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:12:00 -
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Edited by: Ticod on 04/10/2010 20:13:24
CCP wake up! This app is great and encourages folks to actually log in and keep paying their sub! Do business with these fellows who have improved the community.
HTFU!!!!
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1Of9
Gallente
Evolution
IT Alliance
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:13:00 -
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this are extremely bad news :(
Capsuleer was my fav. app on iphone, hands down.
I would gladly pay for the app 
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Chony
Caldari
Dunder Mifflin Paper Co.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:30:00 -
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Edited by: Chony on 04/10/2010 20:32:18
Damn this sucks Ive been using Capsuleer for about half a year or more now. I actually even use it while im playing eve because its faster to check what levels my chars skills are at using the skill button in the ap than using the horrible eve UI.
Hopefully this is just CCP being greedy and they will release their own iPhone app which I would gladly pay a one time charge of up to $4 if it did what Capsuleer did.
PS: iPhone rules android drools!
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Old RedEyeS
Caldari
InterGalactic Corp.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:38:00 -
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Capsuleer is easily my most used app.
Here's hoping CCP find the time/money to bring Capsuleer back to life.
I'd be interested to know (as a consumer) what other apps you guys develop for the iPhone though. Capsuleer was/is a very high quality and polished product.
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Harry Pearce
Caldari
The Intel Project
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:39:00 -
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Sad to hear this - best of luck to you and PyjamaSam in your future projects, and hope to see you back on the platform some time!
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iClone - an iPhone and iPod touch Skill Tracker
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Liang Nuren
Parsec Flux
War.Pigs.
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:39:00 -
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Here's hoping you guys can monetize this. I totally use this app multiple times per day.
-Liang
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Eve Forum ***** Extraordinaire
On Twitter
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Andrew Montagne
Gallente
League of Gentlemen
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:48:00 -
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Best of luck in your future endeavours. I'm working on my own app as a programming learning exercise, but your UI was smooth and the features it had it did very well. It's sad to see your project die, even if it is just temporarily, but again best of luck.
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Pesky LaRue
The Magnificent Bastards
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:51:00 -
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Gutted - this is an awesome app and iClone is just too big/bloated.
Sorry to see this go, thank you for providing this.
And for those with the "take your ball" comments - as Roc said elsewhere, they are spending up to 6 hours a day developing this. Even if it was half that amount, they would deserve to get paid or cease development, so STFU.
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ChrisIsherwood
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Posted - 2010.10.04 20:54:00 -
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Thanks for the ap!
Originally by: Roc Wieler
We've offered advertising in Capsuleer since the beginning
But the new iAD advertising network for iOS did not debut until July. I was/am hoping this is able to sustain "free" applications.
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What was really great was for multiple accounts, you could turn on the device and in a few seconds see the results for all three accounts. From device off to answer in less time that it takes to get the EVE client to launch and get the password screen up. Even checking three password-protected accounts in eveboard is not near as quick.
The good news is this should get me off my ass to cancel at least the alt accounts so that saves $360 per year.
Sigh, if CCP ever comes out with something like this, it will be a subset, ship after 2011, require a 60MB .Net download and Internet Explorer.
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Duke Jennings
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:10:00 -
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Sorry to hear this........ Come on CCP help them out. A mobile version of Eve Gate makes sense.
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Cailais
Amarr
Atomic Heroes
The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:14:00 -
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Very sad news, but indicative of the state of EVE and CCPs relationship with the wider community to date.
The end, as they say, is nigh.
C.
the hydrostatic capsule blog
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Orange Lagomorph
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:14:00 -
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I wish CCP would plagiarize my idea of an AoE ship class that does damage to enemy fleets based on the size of their blob.
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JediRobin
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:17:00 -
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This is a very sad day for us that use Capsuleer.
Even sadder that CCP cant GET OFF THEIR #$%@#$ and support the best app out there.
No more skill ques to check.
No more blogs to read.
No more ccp news to read.
What this means to me is all these things i will miss out on now.
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ChrisIsherwood
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Gogela
well... for mac people EvE is still better than breakout... and superbreakout...
PC and android <3
Aura ftw
/trollthetroll "no if EVE were better than breakout it would sell more than breakout - More people play MMOs on a Mac than play EVE on all platforms."
On a serious note, you do realize this has very little to do with macs and is not limited to phones. Capsuleer ran on the iOS Apple's mobile operating system. Not counting upgrades, Apple is shipping 230 thousand new devices a day that run iOS. Most of them are not phones and none of them are Macs.
I do not undertand the android comment: If they had originally chosen to write capsuleer to run on the android platform, then would this have turned out any differently??? Nobody doubts Google will get advertisements working well on Android, but for the life of Capsuleer, the Apple market share and advertising network were larger.
This is about some combination of CCP not having the experience/employee bandwidth to talk to outside suppliers and the normal (in no way unique to CCP) NIH - where a firm prefers what engineering thinks they could have in two years (but won't) to what the outside supplier has now. Picture some poor CCP employee who is their contact point. While under the time pressure of weekly scrums and semiannual ships, they could do a new type of deal for CCP with all the meetings with executives and lawyers that entails while battling the competing political interests of EVE Gate team are saying "we can do that soon(tm)" and the EON people are wondering how that fits into their eSubscription strategy. a/k/a In corporate life "Never assume malice when mere incompetence will explain the facts"
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helmeo
Caldari
Redwaffe
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:35:00 -
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always sad to see a good app go away due to financial situations.
but, i use android and am very glad the android platform still has a good app for checking skills and such.
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NeoTheo
Dashavatara
Clownz'R'Us
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:47:00 -
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Edited by: NeoTheo on 04/10/2010 21:48:54
Originally by: Joe SMASH
Originally by: NeoTheo
Iclone was 400 million times better anyhow, all i read here was "we wanted to make money out of this, it didnt happen /quit"
I used it for like 2 weeks untill i found iclone.
iClone is terrible. Slow, buggy and way too bloated.
it is actaully packed with features, were as capsulear has hardly any and isnt (and hasnt been for a age) finished.
Originally by: Siiee
As much as I like Capsuleer, knowing that you were just chomping at the bit to monetize it and since you can't you're taking your toy and going home, I just can't feel too bad about this.
The community will fill in the gaps, it may just take a while because the platform is so small.
and this.
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Barakkus
Syndicate Asset Management
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Posted - 2010.10.04 21:52:00 -
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Not sure why anyone would think CCP would license their intellectual property out to other people to make money off of.
Look at what happened to WoW 2 years ago...Blizzard had enough of people making money off UI mods and told everyone, "You either stop charging for your UI mods or we disable your stuff in our client." There was much tantrum throwing to be had by those who charged for their UI mods, but in the end they all went free or to a donation basis.
There really is no reason to cancel development on Capsuleer other than greed for the most part. I'm sure if they stuck with the "donation coder" model, they would still get decent amounts of donations, but just packing it in because CCP wouldn't OK sales of their app is juvenile at best. I would gather this thread is a last ditch effort to try and get some money out of CCP (either directly or getting them to authorize sales of the app).
If ditching the app isn't based in greed, then release the source up on googlesource or sourceforge and let someone, or a group of people take up the development.
Originally by: captain foivos
Who would recruit someone named Barakkus?
Wait a minute...
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KineticPoet
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Posted - 2010.10.04 22:00:00 -
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6 hours a day? On what exactly? I don't think this program has received any additional features since I downloaded it the first time. If the long awaited new version is really sucking up that much time, just drop it. The current version does pretty much everything it needs to do anyway. Seems like you could just declare development over for the time being, shut down the support forums, and leave it at that. The API and (I assume) RSS stuff will continue to function, no? Why pull it from the store? I can think of one reason offhand but I'm not sure I like the implication.
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