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CCP Adida C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.02 17:47:00 - [1] The ôCreate A Starshipö contest has returned and you have the final vote. Submissions will be accepted at the official contest page through December 21, 2010 and voting will start on December 22, 2010 and end on January 8, 2010. Players will be competing for cash, one-year subscription to EVE Online, and various other prizes. For full details of The Final Vote click here. FAQ Will the winner of this contest automatically be included in the game? No. Due to a packed production schedule of ships and other art next year we cannot guarantee the winner goes in before 2012. Seriously, the art schedule is packed. However the CCP Art team reserves the right to change their mind and find room to allow a truly gorgeous piece in. Why are you having another contest, but not including the winner in the game? Our fans have said they want to vote on a larger group of ships, weÆd like to accommodate those fans. WeÆd also like to recognize and reward the awesome efforts of creators who make new ships designs. Yes there is a secret prize for all semi-finalists. No we wonÆt tell you what is. How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. ôCCP will prejudge entrants to semi-final roundà,ö what does that mean? CCP will be filtering out many entrants that donÆt have color renders and orthogonal views. WeÆll also be policing illustrations to the idea of fitting the EVE universe. Your line drawing of the ôFett Mach Sevenö, while kewl, is not we want to represent the EVE universe with. Sorry. Adida Community Rep CCP Hf, EVE Online

MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2010.12.02 17:51:00 - [2] Edited by: MotherMoon on 02/12/2010 17:54:31 woot! goes to furious scribbling! I can finish my 7th view now! edit: hey since your not DA and can actually talk to the community, can you ONCE AND FOR ALL clarify what is meant by uncolored line work? are 3d models rendered in line view for the 6 views ok? Is having darkened areas to show depth ok? Please tell us, please!
Tyber Zaan	Posted - 2010.12.02 17:53:00 - [3] Edited by: Tyber Zaan on 02/12/2010 17:54:08 EXCELLENT! EDIT: Will not be included? Aww.....
Hesperius Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.12.02 17:55:00 - [4] Public vote in this kind of community... I don't see anyone feeling cheated here.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2010.12.02 17:56:00 - [5] Edited by: MotherMoon on 02/12/2010 17:57:02 oops
William Cooly Sol Enterprises	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:03:00 - [6] Originally by: CCP Adida The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. D: - I troll stupid people.
TheTravler	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:03:00 - [7] Originally by: CCP Adida The ôCreate A Starshipö contest has returned and you have the final vote. Submissions will be accepted at the official contest page through December 21, 2010 and voting will start on December 22, 2010 and end on January 8, 2010. Players will be competing for cash, one-year subscription to EVE Online, and various other prizes. For full details of The Final Vote click here. FAQ Will the winner of this contest automatically be included in the game? No. Due to a packed production schedule of ships and other art next year we cannot guarantee the winner goes in before 2012. Seriously, the art schedule is packed. However the CCP Art team reserves the right to change their mind and find room to allow a truly gorgeous piece in. Why are you having another contest, but not including the winner in the game? Our fans have said they want to vote on a larger group of ships, weÆd like to accommodate those fans. WeÆd also like to recognize and reward the awesome efforts of creators who make new ships designs. Yes there is a secret prize for all semi-finalists. No we wonÆt tell you what is. How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. ôCCP will prejudge entrants to semi-final roundà,ö what does that mean? CCP will be filtering out many entrants that donÆt have color renders and orthogonal views. WeÆll also be policing illustrations to the idea of fitting the EVE universe. Your line drawing of the ôFett Mach Sevenö, while kewl, is not we want to represent the EVE universe with. Sorry. I think you meant the mach 5 not 7 or are you talking about something other than speed racer?
Caldariftw123	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:06:00 - [8] Originally by: CCP Adida Will the winner of this contest automatically be included in the game? No. Due to a packed production schedule of ships and other art[/b] next year we cannot guarantee the winner goes in before 2012. Seriously, the art schedule is packed. However the CCP Art team reserves the right to change their mind and find room to allow a truly gorgeous piece in. I am liking this part especially! I was sad to see you didn't do more models for Incursion after the scorp remodel, good to know you are still doing things! CCP are so winning lately, what an awesome part-expansion, learning skills soon, with more content still to come! I dearly <3 this game.
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:07:00 - [9] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 02/12/2010 18:10:09
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:10:00 - [10] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 02/12/2010 18:11:14 Can't wait to see what people come up with this time. PS: This thread needs to be stickied. Originally by: CCP Adida The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. Do you have to have a facebook account to vote?
Fukov Andie	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:15:00 - [11] Congratulations on making your own contest, entirely independent of dA. There were a lot of great entries on their website, but I don¦t want to know what their wannabe-intellectual-artist judges were smoking.
egg timer	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:19:00 - [12] Who gives a crap about designing a ship that won't be used in-game? Considering that most existing ships in Eve look like they were designed by a ******ed rhesus monkey, I don't really see why we should expect anything different to win; CCP will just "prejudge" out anything that doesn't look equally absurd.
Stan'din	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:26:00 - [13] I think we should just re design the raven like we did with the scorpion its starting to show its age now but should make a viable caldari PVP ship
Swwils	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:30:00 - [14] LA BATTLECRUISER
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:34:00 - [15] Two questions: 1) As someone else said, please clarify what is required for the six views. Is subtle shading (but not full color) to emphasize shapes allowed? Are plain grayscale renders of a 3d model allowed (and if not, please consider changing your mind and allowing them)? This was a major point of confusion with the deviantart contest. 2) How will the voting be handled for this contest? Specifically what will be done to prevent abuse of the system? For example, voting with multiple accounts, trial accounts, etc. Or, less dishonestly, turning the contest into a popularity contest where the most important part of winning is running a proper publicity campaign on the forums (and of course finishing early enough to do this ASAP), alliance leaders ordering their entire alliance to vote for the leader's submission, etc? -----------
Kira X Minmatar Rage Orbital Construction Associates	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:39:00 - [16] I must say, I am pleasantly shocked and pleased that CCP actually responded to our outcry at the Deviantart contest failing. This is wondrous news indeed...it means CCP actually took our petitions seriously in the manner. Meaning that the community does infact have a say in matters. Thanks CCP!! I am very happy to see this contest done anew and I am very happy that the whole thing will be hosted by CCP and CCP alone this time. Way to go! Brilliant!
Shandir Minmatar Eve University Ivy League	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:49:00 - [17] Originally by: CCP Adida Will the winner of this contest automatically be included in the game?[/b] No. Due to a packed production schedule of ships and other art next year we cannot guarantee the winner goes in before 2012. Seriously, the art schedule is packed. However the CCP Art team reserves the right to change their mind and find room to allow a truly gorgeous piece in. Does this mean that it is guaranteed for 2012 sometime, or is it just maybe 2012? The entrants would no doubt be satisfied if it was guaranteed to happen at some point (with a rough estimate of when), even if it's not soon.
Jake Plisken	Posted - 2010.12.02 18:55:00 - [18] Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 02/12/2010 18:14:57 woot! goes to furious scribbling! I can finish my 7th view now! edit: hey since your not DA and can actually talk to the community, can you ONCE AND FOR ALL clarify what is meant by uncolored line work? are 3d models rendered in line view for the 6 views ok? Is having darkened areas to show depth ok? Please tell us, please! edit: example 1 myship In the front view there are areas where it is darker to show it's deep, is this ok? caldari battleship This ship was loved by a lot of fans, are the 6 views ok? Or does it (as I suspect) not follow the rules? wonderfulship but colored and this one, I'm guessing it would not qualify? The Caldari BS looks awesome that one will definitely have my vote if you submit it!!!
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2010.12.02 19:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Jake Plisken Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 02/12/2010 18:14:57 woot! goes to furious scribbling! I can finish my 7th view now! edit: hey since your not DA and can actually talk to the community, can you ONCE AND FOR ALL clarify what is meant by uncolored line work? are 3d models rendered in line view for the 6 views ok? Is having darkened areas to show depth ok? Please tell us, please! edit: example 1 myship In the front view there are areas where it is darker to show it's deep, is this ok? caldari battleship This ship was loved by a lot of fans, are the 6 views ok? Or does it (as I suspect) not follow the rules? wonderfulship but colored and this one, I'm guessing it would not qualify? The Caldari BS looks awesome that one will definitely have my vote if you submit it!!! That's my point! it can't be submitted if it doesn't follow the rules :P But it's not really clear. well I thought it was clear, so I did mine with line work. but then over 805 of the submissions were models (modeling is easier I would of done it that way >.<) so just a quick rules clarification would be nice. (capslocks)
Jardine Khan Caldari Grey Wolves Mercenary Guild	Posted - 2010.12.02 19:09:00 - [20] Originally by: MotherMoon In the front view there are areas where it is darker to show it's deep, is this ok? caldari battleship Love that Caldari BS you've got there! That would definitely get my vote. The Caldari desperately need an awesome looking ship and that one fits the bill perfectly! Very little escapes my notice. If something has, I don't know about it.
Salyan	Posted - 2010.12.02 19:28:00 - [21] Originally by: CCP Adida The ôCreate A Starshipö contest has returned Awsome! I wasn't too thrilled at the outcome of the Deviant art contest. Originally by: CCP Adida Will the winner of this contest automatically be included in the game?[/b] No. Oh... Well, that's understandable. You seem to indicate that it will be eventually, though, so that's cool. Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st?[/b] The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. Huh. Never mind then, guess I'm not taking part.
Seriously Bored Minmatar	Posted - 2010.12.02 19:36:00 - [22] So...is this separate from the previous contest, or a continuation of it? I love the idea of a wholly EVE Online ship design contest. But I'm left wondering if the Tornado, which was an amazing design and deserved its legitimate victory in the previous contest, will see the light of day in game. (Or rather, see the black of space.)
Deviana Sevidon Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.02 19:57:00 - [23] If the contest means I need a facebook account then I will pass, thanks.
Celebris Nexterra Gallente Canderous Vextors Odd Jobs Inc Confederacy of Protean Warriors	Posted - 2010.12.02 20:04:00 - [24] Hm. While I understood the FAQ fine and fully intend to participate, it would seem that others were not so understanding. Perhaps more clarity is in order? Particularly concerning the use of Facebook's "Like" button.
SillyWaif Galactic Kingdom	Posted - 2010.12.02 20:05:00 - [25] Originally by: CCP Adida ... How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. ... Me, myself and I (a.k.a affiliated toons) won't be participating either Thanks for nothing
BenjaminBarker	Posted - 2010.12.02 20:09:00 - [26] Originally by: Celebris Nexterra Hm. While I understood the FAQ fine and fully intend to participate, it would seem that others were not so understanding. Perhaps more clarity is in order? Particularly concerning the use of Facebook's "Like" button. It seems pretty straightforward. If you want to vote on the new ship, you have to use Facebook. This is an advertising campaign, as most contests are. Doesn't make a lot of sense to advertise just to EVE players does it?
Hammerswift Thunder The Graduates Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2010.12.02 20:20:00 - [27] Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 02/12/2010 18:14:57 woot! goes to furious scribbling! I can finish my 7th view now! edit: hey since your not DA and can actually talk to the community, can you ONCE AND FOR ALL clarify what is meant by uncolored line work? are 3d models rendered in line view for the 6 views ok? Is having darkened areas to show depth ok? Please tell us, please! edit: example 1 myship In the front view there are areas where it is darker to show it's deep, is this ok? caldari battleship This ship was loved by a lot of fans, are the 6 views ok? Or does it (as I suspect) not follow the rules? wonderfulship but colored and this one, I'm guessing it would not qualify? PLZ do whatever is needed to get this ship up for the caldari +1 vote here Fly like your going to die because death comes to us all. tm
SFM Hobb3s Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.12.02 20:25:00 - [28] Fantastic! Honestly that debacle at DA didn't do many people justice. Pretty sure I was disqualified because of the shaded views. Almost done my shippie too :) Caldari Battleship Side view Caldari Battleship underside
Kolpath Aeire	Posted - 2010.12.02 20:34:00 - [29] So I take it we are allowed to re-submit entries which were already submitted to the dA contest, right?
AngeBlade Caldari modro R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.12.02 20:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Jardine Khan Originally by: MotherMoon In the front view there are areas where it is darker to show it's deep, is this ok? caldari battleship Love that Caldari BS you've got there! That would definitely get my vote. The Caldari desperately need an awesome looking ship and that one fits the bill perfectly! THIS!!!!!!! MEH!!!
Hesperius Parsec Flux War.Pigs.	Posted - 2010.12.02 21:19:00 - [31] Originally by: Kolpath Aeire So I take it we are allowed to re-submit entries which were already submitted to the dA contest, right? The rules dont say it has to have been created for this contest, or that you created it, or anything. So I would suggest grabbing the one you liked best from the DA contest and submitting it. GL.
Opertone Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.02 21:21:00 - [32] FREEBORN FUJIN two most epic creations, eve requires them...
Helixios Minmatar	Posted - 2010.12.02 21:33:00 - [33] Edited by: Helixios on 02/12/2010 21:33:45 Originally by: MotherMoon Is having darkened areas to show depth ok? Please tell us, please! Mine are the same way: Republic Fleet Gungnir Republic Fleet Stalker Last time I asked the DA team specifically that question- Was the minor shading I did to indicate depth going to get me disqualified or not? They said no, and I was not disqualified... I'm thinking (Even though it was the DA team who told me this) this fact will remain the same. We're probably okay. Would be good to have confirmation though. - Battle Dust Proposal
Komen Gallente Flying Target LLC	Posted - 2010.12.02 21:40:00 - [34] Yay new starship contest! And to vote I go...oh. Nope, not participating.
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2010.12.02 22:20:00 - [35] Originally by: Hesperius Originally by: Kolpath Aeire So I take it we are allowed to re-submit entries which were already submitted to the dA contest, right? The rules dont say it has to have been created for this contest, or that you created it, or anything. So I would suggest grabbing the one you liked best from the DA contest and submitting it. GL. according to section (4.b.): "...(ii) must be the exclusive original work of the entrant and made for the Contest" tho, would be nice to have confirmation on that. also, what extent of shinny is required for 7th view? flat, shaded, texture, or full out? ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.12.02 22:20:00 - [36] I have a request for the CCP art team. Since you decided go with an outside site for the voting, propably because letting non-EVE players vote on the finalists worked so well the first time. Well anyway, since you prescreen the proposals before facebook users get to dictate what EVE players might fly in the future, FFS disqualify all designs you feel are not good fits for EVE. As in, they have no chance of winning even if they get voted to the finals. The reason being, that actual EVE players will propably be the minority voters in facebook, so don't let anything in to the semifinals, that you aren't already willing to put in EVE. Most voters aren't EVE players and won't give a crap about voting for fitting designs, so you will need to eliminate them in the first screening. That means disqualify with extreme prejudice all non-EVE designs, joke ships and technically poorly designed ships. The absolute bottom end of the semifinalists should be average looking designs, that would still fit the EVE universe just fine with minor tweaks. This leaves loads of room for taste, but removes the chance of having a similar fiasco with the designs as we had last time. Good luck to everyone taking part in the competition.
Jei'son Bladesmith The Storm Knights The Cool Kids Club	Posted - 2010.12.02 22:46:00 - [37] Originally by: MotherMoon caldari battleship holy sweet mother of crap! badass ship is badass thats enough to turn me into a caldari-flying missile slinger (and i hate caldari missile boats with a passion rivaled only by my unholy cake-lust)
MuHuHAHAha	Posted - 2010.12.02 22:55:00 - [38] I wonder If I could make a ship from homeworld 2 I.E. The pride of hiigara or the Hiigaran battlecruser. o_O But, its against the rules But, that Caldarni Battleship does look sexy, +1!
Elisa Vilerum	Posted - 2010.12.02 22:58:00 - [39] what about previus winner,manny peps will wine about ships looking bad but minmatar ships do look like fail usage of pentium 3 and mental tard in attempt to create viable kinda retro/solar thingy look... so while im happy with another ship contest i need that tornado to buzz around space and all min could use good looking ship ignore typos am driving
Joss56	Posted - 2010.12.02 23:37:00 - [40] Edited by: Joss56 on 02/12/2010 23:38:04 I realy like you guys work about Caldary BS and agree that you need something more "dynamic" than actual but please: DO SOMETHING for gallente "save the wales" design like because... -you take a mega or hyperion they look fine, i mean it's ok they look like space ships, the nyx is just the most beautifull ship in the game, the only real space ship design in my "pint" of view. Get some rain dance out here guys and beg that gallente race gets some re-design or new ship that looks like one (sorry design team for this ease agression but realy you guys shoud stop with the wales style )
zandayus	Posted - 2010.12.02 23:39:00 - [41] congrats to CCP for the design your spaceship thing.i know none of them submitted will not be PVP ships only.can we have ccp do this design thing for space stations.designs that are totally unique and not amarr/gallente/caldari/minatar style.place them in the vincity of major jump gates in hi sec space..
Azureite Amarr Special Forces Operation Detachment Delta	Posted - 2010.12.02 23:54:00 - [42] Originally by: Swwils LA BATTLECRUISER ^ my conscience won't allow me to vote for anything else.
Konoch Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.12.02 23:59:00 - [43] Originally by: Jei'son Bladesmith Originally by: MotherMoon caldari battleship holy sweet mother of crap! badass ship is badass thats enough to turn me into a caldari-flying missile slinger (and i hate caldari missile boats with a passion rivaled only by my unholy cake-lust) This was one of the better entries of the 'epic fail' contest. I'm gonna be hard pressed to top that as i finally have the time to actually make my own dream ship a reality. I'm thinking my T3 battleship i'm inspired in this case by the SR-2 (NO IT WILL NOT BE A CLONE) But its sleek insanely smooth lines make that ship a piece of art. It'll fit nicely with the gallente. I have a few other ideas but that's the one i'm going to be focusing on. Thank you CCP incursion is looking to be your best roll out of an expansion to date and this is only further upping the bar. I only hope my own final designs can compete with what will be an intense field.
Siiee Recycled Heroes	Posted - 2010.12.03 00:01:00 - [44] Originally by: CCP Adida Our fans have said they want to vote on a larger group of ships, weÆd like to accommodate those fans. Yes! Finally. A chance for Eve players to have their say! Originally by: CCP Adida The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. I ummm... oh.. ahh... well I guess I hope you like whatever ships facebook users choose. I guess I won't have a chance to vote afterall.
Konoch Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.12.03 00:07:00 - [45] Originally by: Siiee Originally by: CCP Adida Our fans have said they want to vote on a larger group of ships, weÆd like to accommodate those fans. Yes! Finally. A chance for Eve players to have their say! Originally by: CCP Adida The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. I ummm... oh.. ahh... well I guess I hope you like whatever ships facebook users choose. I guess I won't have a chance to vote afterall. sign up for facebook. Vote. destroy existance of the account. CCP is trolling entries for those who do not fit in the universe. It'll be better than the dA contest.
yieasase susivirate	Posted - 2010.12.03 01:09:00 - [46] What is facebook?
Khan Soriano Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2010.12.03 02:10:00 - [47] So this is supposed to be a contest in which EVE population gets to vote on what suits them best but the voting mechanism is using Facebook? No connection to our EVE characters or accounts? SERIOUSLY?? Maybe in 2011 you could make it mandatory to have a Facebook and Twitter account to play the game, that would be lovely... CCP you still haven't learned anything. You have these great ideas but you always cripple them with some idiotic decision along the way, why do you do this to yourselves and US is beyond me.
Matty5960	Posted - 2010.12.03 02:26:00 - [48] Originally by: Khan Soriano So this is supposed to be a contest in which EVE population gets to vote on what suits them best but the voting mechanism is using Facebook? No connection to our EVE characters or accounts? SERIOUSLY?? Maybe in 2011 you could make it mandatory to have a Facebook and Twitter account to play the game, that would be lovely... CCP you still haven't learned anything. You have these great ideas but you always cripple them with some idiotic decision along the way, why do you do this to yourselves and US is beyond me. Khan, I think they are planning on doing it from the EVE site. Im a web designer and can tell you putting the Facebook like button onto a webpage is easy and free. I dont think you must have a facebook to vote.
Dareth Meroul	Posted - 2010.12.03 02:29:00 - [49] Edited by: Dareth Meroul on 03/12/2010 02:36:12 Edited by: Dareth Meroul on 03/12/2010 02:34:15 I've got to say, using a Facebook "like" button to vote seems mighty odd to me too. Some other way would be better. Please!?! Even if this is done from the web site, from what I understand clicking on the Facebook "like" button on another website requires the Facebook platform application to be enabled on the voter's account for it to work. If that is the case, then I won't be able to vote at all because I refuse to turn that on for security & privacy reasons.
Alexis Sapphire	Posted - 2010.12.03 02:32:00 - [50] Ok, so forgive me for asking what is likely a completely ******ed question. I'm really tired and starting to get sick, so my reading comprehension is probably a bit on the low side right now... Does this contest supersede the (disaster) DA contest? Or is this a contest in addition to and irrespective of the DA contest? Is the Tornado still in? Is it up again? See I'm confused. My thought upon reading this was that the Tornado won the DA contest, is in as that winner (whenever you all can get to it), and that this is a new thing (but likely having many of the old but great DA entries that got screwed) and we get to vote this time. Do I have this right? As I said up front, sorry if this is a completely wasted question due to my fail at reading comprehension. Oh, I should say... I'm not an artist, can't even draw a crooked line, but I paid close attention to the DA contest and general uproar over the results. Tornado was nice, and I liked some of the other DA semi-finalists, but I felt the majority of them missed the mark of being suitable for EVE. I did see a large number of excellent designs (I really liked that Aquilon gallente ship...) that didn't make the semi cut. If this is an opportunity for those excellent submissions to receive a second chance, great job CCP. No really, we the players have a better eye for what belongs in EVE than those DA fools. And to all the artists, I mean, I'm in awe since I can't draw. I'm really pleased you all will have another go at this.
Konoch Caldari Northstar Cabal R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.12.03 02:38:00 - [51] Originally by: Alexis Sapphire Ok, so forgive me for asking what is likely a completely ****ed question. I'm really tired and starting to get sick, so my reading comprehension is probably a bit on the low side right now... Does this contest supersede the (disaster) DA contest? Or is this a contest in addition to and irrespective of the DA contest? Is the Tornado still in? Is it up again? See I'm confused. The latter. It's going to have its own implications. It will not unfortunately supercede the dA contest. Originally by:** Alexis Sapphire My thought upon reading this was that the Tornado won the DA contest, is in as that winner (whenever you all can get to it), and that this is a new thing (but likely having many of the old but great DA entries that got screwed) and we get to vote this time. Do I have this right? As I said up front, sorry if this is a completely wasted question due to my fail at reading comprehension. No you have it right that's exactly how this will happen. Even better. People can redo or refine their designs further. Originally by: Alexis Sapphire Oh, I should say... I'm not an artist, can't even draw a crooked line, but I paid close attention to the DA contest and general uproar over the results. Tornado was nice, and I liked some of the other DA semi-finalists, but I felt the majority of them missed the mark of being suitable for EVE. I did see a large number of excellent designs (I really liked that Aquilon gallente ship...) that didn't make the semi cut. If this is an opportunity for those excellent submissions to receive a second chance, great job CCP. No really, we the players have a better eye for what belongs in EVE than those DA fools. And to all the artists, I mean, I'm in awe since I can't draw. I'm really pleased you all will have another go at this. That's exactly what's happening and thank you. I was disappointed then relieved i hadnt entered the first. Now i have a chance to show what I can do. I'm looking forward to the challenge.
Lorren Canada	Posted - 2010.12.03 02:50:00 - [52] So I was under the impression these ships would actually be included in game... but I've heard that's not so? If that's true it really takes the wind out of my sails... Anyone know?
Alexis Sapphire	Posted - 2010.12.03 03:10:00 - [53] I appreciate the reply Konoch. I'm glad my fuzzy brain apparently DID understand what my eyes took in. I had a moment of "hang on, is CCP just undoing the DA contest or is this an extension or... damn, my head hurts." Originally by: Konoch That's exactly what's happening and thank you. I was disappointed then relieved i hadnt entered the first. Now i have a chance to show what I can do. I'm looking forward to the challenge. You and all the other artists have my support. I am seriously the least talented artist on the planet. You need advanced math done? I'm your guy. Need a drawing? Just shoot me. My family has absolutely zero artistic talent. I grew up hearing "can't even draw a crooked line" from my mother. I did like crayons, but more because they were pointy and colorful. Ok, so silly joking aside, I really am pleased you artists get a second (and I'm thinking much better) shot at this. While I may not be able to draw to save my life, I can tell a nice looking EVE-type ship apart from something that should not be in EVE. It would be my guess (and maybe I'm full of crap) that as this one is being run much more directly by CCP, that the pool of submissions will be much more directly related to EVE as compared to some of what we saw at DA from the DA-only folks who saw "contest" and yet had no clue what EVE is. As a result, I'd bet that since we the playerbase get a vote, things will be much smoother come winner time. Good luck to you and everyone else.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2010.12.03 03:48:00 - [54] Originally by: Azureite Originally by: Swwils LA BATTLECRUISER ^ my conscience won't allow me to vote for anything else. anyone have the remade super sexy model someone made of the LA battle cruiser?
T'arho Sukri Inc.	Posted - 2010.12.03 05:00:00 - [55] Where can we go to see the entries? Originally by: Schwa88 Edited by: Schwa88 on 04/11/2010 04:50:53 This thread has made my head asplode.
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.03 07:43:00 - [56] Originally by: T'arho Where can we go to see the entries? I get the impression we won't be able to do so till they have all the submissions in and locked. I think its a good idea on CCP's part (if thats the case)... I'm happy they didn't "forget" about the additional contest they said they were going to do (since the DA mega stuff up) - quite surprised by it - gotten so lazy, better go back to working on the Lammergeier Battleship a little bit more (mostly background stuff.. but I'll probably get stuck into the 7th view again).. This time I might try doing a redesign of the Raven? .. or maybe a more industrial looking ORE mining ship? (all the mining ships looks too alike :S) Happy days again --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.03 07:47:00 - [57] Originally by: Opertone FREEBORN FUJIN two most epic creations, eve requires them... YES TO FREEBORN!!!!!!!!!!!!!! --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Dragunov Vio	Posted - 2010.12.03 08:32:00 - [58] when i see some of the designs of these ships, the understanding of spaceflight dynamics that i have yells out " YOUR DOING IT WRONG" ships must be centrally balanced, or compensated by thrust, half the ships in eve would either subtly fly in a curve rather then straight, or curve around rapidly and lose the plot. but then my awesome detector goes "OMG INTERNET SPACESHIPS!!!1!"
mjolnir feaw Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.03 09:29:00 - [59] Originally by: MotherMoon caldari battleship It looks awesome. But... Shouldn't the caldari ships have to follow the untold caldari rule? "Left and right of ship should be designed by different teams who should not be allowed to communicate" ----- " There's no brave in a 5-to-1 fight. Just 5 cowards and a fool. - Perhaps. But it worked didn't it?"
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2010.12.03 10:11:00 - [60] Originally by: AngeBlade Originally by: Jardine Khan Originally by: MotherMoon In the front view there are areas where it is darker to show it's deep, is this ok? caldari battleship Love that Caldari BS you've got there! That would definitely get my vote. The Caldari desperately need an awesome looking ship and that one fits the bill perfectly! THIS!!!!!!! This would be a nice re-vamp of the raven imo... Maximum signature size is 24,000 bytes. Spitfire
Staggerr Broski North	Posted - 2010.12.03 10:55:00 - [61] Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. I don't use Facebook much (or have a lot of friends for that matter), so I'm not even gonna bother to participate in this. Good luck with asking as many of your friends to vote on you for those who will.
Fianna Illyasfeld	Posted - 2010.12.03 10:56:00 - [62] Originally by: Staggerr Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. I don't use Facebook much (or have a lot of friends for that matter), so I'm not even gonna bother to participate in this. Good luck with asking as many of your friends to vote on you for those who will. Fianna likes this
Cergorach Amarr The Helix Foundation	Posted - 2010.12.03 11:21:00 - [63] Originally by: Staggerr Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. I don't use Facebook much (or have a lot of friends for that matter), so I'm not even gonna bother to participate in this. Good luck with asking as many of your friends to vote on you for those who will. I detest Facebook, and if I need to create a Facebook account to vote I won't vote. If that's the case CCP is doing some horrible stuff, they have the infrastructure to actually handle this themselves!
Daneel Trevize Black Viper Nomads	Posted - 2010.12.03 12:56:00 - [64] 'The' caldari battleship, stahlvogel, needs the bloody perspective fixing on the front. From the line art that blade's meant to be vertical, but from the 3d view either it's slanted or the ship's badly twisted.
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2010.12.03 13:46:00 - [65] Originally by: Daneel Trevize 'The' caldari battleship, stahlvogel, needs the bloody perspective fixing on the front. From the line art that blade's meant to be vertical, but from the 3d view either it's slanted or the ship's badly twisted. it's just wide angle camera working as intended. ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
hired goon	Posted - 2010.12.03 13:55:00 - [66] Originally by: Helixios Edited by: Helixios on 02/12/2010 21:39:11 Edited by: Helixios on 02/12/2010 21:33:45 Originally by: MotherMoon Is having darkened areas to show depth ok? Please tell us, please! Mine are the same way: Republic Fleet Gungnir Republic Fleet Stalker Last time I asked the DA team specifically that question- Was the minor shading I did to indicate depth going to get me disqualified or not? They said no, and I was not disqualified... I'm thinking (Even though it was the DA team who told me this) this fact will remain the same. We're probably okay. Would be good to have confirmation though. Oh ****, hey Mothermoon, you're the one who asked me to critique your Minmatar ship, haha. Nice to see you back in the contest, too. I really like these two, especially the stalker
Hidden Snake Caldari Inglorious-Basterds	Posted - 2010.12.03 15:00:00 - [67] Originally by: AngeBlade Originally by: Jardine Khan Originally by: MotherMoon In the front view there are areas where it is darker to show it's deep, is this ok? caldari battleship Love that Caldari BS you've got there! That would definitely get my vote. The Caldari desperately need an awesome looking ship and that one fits the bill perfectly! THIS!!!!!!! As Caldari militia FC ... I want this baby commisioned in 2 months!!!!! droooolllll WE ARE in STASIS NOW!
Ciar Meara Amarr Virtus Vindice	Posted - 2010.12.03 15:25:00 - [68] Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. I like the fact that you made a contest like this, but like other that posted I have no Facebook account either, I don't like everything I do being saved, checked, controlled and saved more then it already is. Wouldn't it be more logical that evegate would be the place to vote, at least those accounts are about your virtual alter ego. EPITOTH GUARD A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
Jaari Val'Dara Caldari Atomic Zeppelins BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.12.03 15:59:00 - [69] Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. I urge you to reconsider. I won't ever register for that hellhole of a website.
BenjaminBarker	Posted - 2010.12.03 16:12:00 - [70] What do you guys think is more likely - that the CCP Artists ran out of ideas and want the community to do their job for them, or that the CCP marketing team wants to get the word out for EVE? The whole point of this contest is the Facebook like button. They want you to broadcast EVE to all of your friends. Is that really a big deal? Vote on a few ships and show people how cool EVE is? What would be the purpose of the voting being tied to your account? How does that get more people interested in EVE? You already have an account, or you wouldn't be complaining here. I personally think this is a great idea. If you don't like it, then don't vote. Suggesting that CCP remove the marketing part of a marketing campaign is more than a little foolish though.
Jaari Val'Dara Caldari Atomic Zeppelins BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2010.12.03 16:38:00 - [71] Originally by: BenjaminBarker What do you guys think is more likely - that the CCP Artists ran out of ideas and want the community to do their job for them, or that the CCP marketing team wants to get the word out for EVE? The whole point of this contest is the Facebook like button. They want you to broadcast EVE to all of your friends. Is that really a big deal? Vote on a few ships and show people how cool EVE is? What would be the purpose of the voting being tied to your account? How does that get more people interested in EVE? You already have an account, or you wouldn't be complaining here. I personally think this is a great idea. If you don't like it, then don't vote. Suggesting that CCP remove the marketing part of a marketing campaign is more than a little foolish though. Not an excuse, facebook must die.
Deliram	Posted - 2010.12.03 16:40:00 - [72] Originally by: BenjaminBarker What do you guys think is more likely - that the CCP Artists ran out of ideas and want the community to do their job for them, or that the CCP marketing team wants to get the word out for EVE? The whole point of this contest is the Facebook like button. They want you to broadcast EVE to all of your friends. Is that really a big deal? Vote on a few ships and show people how cool EVE is? What would be the purpose of the voting being tied to your account? How does that get more people interested in EVE? You already have an account, or you wouldn't be complaining here. I personally think this is a great idea. If you don't like it, then don't vote. Suggesting that CCP remove the marketing part of a marketing campaign is more than a little foolish though. I complaint, becouse we told CCP many times, community vote will be a major disaster and a FB vote will lead to even a bigger one. I worked hard in the past contest to submit ships and i will not do this again, i will just ignore the whole contest. Pherhaps i will anyway post a useless crap hoping to get in semifinalist(by posting a suitable submission) just knowing that is impossible to go more than that without a good fb account(with many friends/groups ecc). Plus as told by many FB is hated by many, as i hate, and let us complaint on the poor choice. First Deviant then Facebook, what's next?!? Anyway i have to say thanks to CCP that at least listen to us, this is not a sarcastic comment, it's just they made another contest as we asked and knowing that the corp of the game activelly listen to even little groups of players is a very nice thing. Will play eve forever on these basis :-)
Tekk Kaisnoir Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.03 16:43:00 - [73] Hmmm... I'll have to create a new entry AND revamp my entry ship to the previous contest. It seems that others will do the same. At least, from what everyone is saying, that's what several people will do. Unless I'm mistaken. All in all, it sounds like fun! I enjoyed the last contest, until DA screwed it completely. http://timkaiseronline.deviantart.com/art/Minmatar-Annihilator-182610494 <-- previous entry
Kandorilara Mishuna	Posted - 2010.12.03 17:04:00 - [74] Awesome! More Minnie ships that look pieced together with leftover parts, just not the leftover parts even the scrap yard turned away! Love Stalker. Don't so much love the voting mechanic. I'm having images of macro's hitting "Like" for a couple weeks... Three different sugestions for CCP to consider that will cut down on fraud and bring in new players that want to vote (and hopefully will stay to become players). None are perfect but all are better than perma-spamming the "Like" button (which draws zero into the game): 1. Create a market item for each semi finalist (a token like the data cores or something) that players can purchase for one ISK, proceeds can go to that artist as a bonus for thier hard work. Highest "purchase" wins. 2. Give out tokens to be redeemed at the startup screen. Players can choose to redeem just one (thier favorite), which is either registered by CCP or, if not possible, contracted to CCP. Tally the most tokens/contracts, thiers the answer. 3. Agents set up in each region similar to COSMOS agents. They ask you "What's your favorite flavor?", you answer, you're locked out of the system after that. Restricts the abuse to either how much ISK you're willing to dish out or the number of alts a person has. Plus, through advertising, non-players will create accounts to vote. Win/Win.
Wolfhound32	Posted - 2010.12.03 17:13:00 - [75] Here is my suggestion for a new Minmatar long range scout ship. It is especially revered by the tribal elders for its onboard toilet facilities. Nobody likes to pee in their own pod!
Aineko Macx	Posted - 2010.12.03 17:28:00 - [76] Stahlvogel and Fujin are awesome (tho the former would have to be changed from a german to a japanese name, too). Stalker looks uber awesome, and thats the problem with it unfortunately: Minmatar don't have sleek, hi tech looking ships. That's my assessment of most eve ship models actually: They have character, but most are downright ugly. PS: Facebook is an accumulation of things of today's internet I hate. This contest died for me the moment it was chose as platform. ________________________ CCP: Where fixing bugs is a luxury, not an obligation.
BIZZAROSTORMY	Posted - 2010.12.03 17:44:00 - [77] Edited by: BIZZAROSTORMY on 03/12/2010 17:44:41 So the last competition - was that anulled? or will the winners ship be entered into the game - and so will THIS competitions winner - making 2 new player designed ships to be entered into the game? confusing. Also: when the first competition was launched I predicted DA would make an arse of it. Did they? I missed the whole thing by being away.
Hustomte The Knights Templar R.A.G.E	Posted - 2010.12.03 18:09:00 - [78] Originally by: Zagdul Originally by: AngeBlade Originally by: Jardine Khan Originally by: MotherMoon In the front view there are areas where it is darker to show it's deep, is this ok? caldari battleship Love that Caldari BS you've got there! That would definitely get my vote. The Caldari desperately need an awesome looking ship and that one fits the bill perfectly! THIS!!!!!!! This would be a nice re-vamp of the raven imo... Seconded! The Raven should have looked like this from the start! Excellent job!
Deliceous World Of Insomnia. SpaceMonkey's Alliance	Posted - 2010.12.03 18:27:00 - [79] Drive by Posting Personally I think on of the prizes should be a copy of the BPO of their ship 1 to 2 months before it is release on the General NPC market. Sorta like exclusive test models of cars release a year before being release to the mass market Would make the markets in this area interesting.
Real Poison Minmatar Stormlord Battleforce Vanguard.	Posted - 2010.12.03 20:06:00 - [80] Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. i don't get it... why will facebook users have the vote on the winner instead of eve players?
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.12.03 20:59:00 - [81] Originally by: Real Poison Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. i don't get it... why will facebook users have the vote on the winner instead of eve players? Marketing. These kinds of contests produce loads of visually pleasing designs, that everyone can find interesting and attractive without actually having to know anything about EVE beforehand. Facebook was chosen because it is hugely popular, has a voting system already in place and is a great opportunity for EVE to get visibility with people who aren't already playing the game. Having outsiders decide the finalists isn't a problem, since CCP prescreens the contestants before the public gets to vote on who gets in to the finals and CCP decides the winners. They know what will fit in EVE and what to keep out of the voting entirely to avoid propable problems with the public voting phase. This thing can still work out just fine, if CCP does the presreening part properly and thoroughly.
Gartanus Caldari GarCorp	Posted - 2010.12.03 21:10:00 - [82] Originally by: MotherMoon Originally by: Jake Plisken Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 02/12/2010 18:14:57 woot! goes to furious scribbling! I can finish my 7th view now! edit: hey since your not DA and can actually talk to the community, can you ONCE AND FOR ALL clarify what is meant by uncolored line work? are 3d models rendered in line view for the 6 views ok? Is having darkened areas to show depth ok? Please tell us, please! edit: example 1 myship In the front view there are areas where it is darker to show it's deep, is this ok? caldari battleship This ship was loved by a lot of fans, are the 6 views ok? Or does it (as I suspect) not follow the rules? wonderfulship but colored and this one, I'm guessing it would not qualify? The Caldari BS looks awesome that one will definitely have my vote if you submit it!!! That's my point! it can't be submitted if it doesn't follow the rules :P But it's not really clear. well I thought it was clear, so I did mine with line work. but then over 805 of the submissions were models (modeling is easier I would of done it that way >.<) so just a quick rules clarification would be nice. (capslocks) Oh your Caldari BS is so what I would like to see in game! You will for sure have my vote if it can be submitted!! This space reserved for something witty.....
Dante Allegre	Posted - 2010.12.03 22:17:00 - [83] So two things, one can i see what people are entering and two, somebody needs to make T3 frigates. Personally I love frigates and want a chance to go further than the lame little backup/tackler to a ship that can do whatever position you want, well. P.S. why is nobody designing Amarr ships? P.P.S I'm saying this cause i dont have artistic skills and need somebody else to do this stuff.
Siiee Recycled Heroes	Posted - 2010.12.04 00:01:00 - [84] Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Marketing. These kinds of contests produce loads of visually pleasing designs, that everyone can find interesting and attractive without actually having to know anything about EVE beforehand. Facebook was chosen because it is hugely popular, has a voting system already in place and is a great opportunity for EVE to get visibility with people who aren't already playing the game. Having outsiders decide the finalists isn't a problem, since CCP prescreens the contestants before the public gets to vote on who gets in to the finals and CCP decides the winners. They know what will fit in EVE and what to keep out of the voting entirely to avoid propable problems with the public voting phase. This thing can still work out just fine, if CCP does the presreening part properly and thoroughly. From the entries we've seen in the last contest I don't doubt that with just a little bit of prescreening that a hoard of monkeys could choose a selection of ships that will look really cool and most people will be happy over. I felt like most of the outrage (like my own) at the previous contest was "we've got to fly the damn things, we should be selecting the semi-finals" not "I hate DeviantArt, you should take the vote to some other overlapping-yet-still-seperate social subroup that I may or may not be a part of". Maybe I'm totally wrong and people were just upset that the ships were all out of character, in which case the new vote will be fine, but I felt that CCP understood the former when they said they were planning on re-doing the contest and letting "us" vote on the entries. It may be a smart marketing move, but I still don't have to like it.
freshspree	Posted - 2010.12.04 01:28:00 - [85] Originally by: Opertone FREEBORN FUJIN two most epic creations, eve requires them... You will definitely get my vote. I love d fujin a lot.
F90OEX F9X	Posted - 2010.12.04 03:16:00 - [86] Do any of the current entries for Caldari have viewable launcher slots ? For years the Raven hull has looked silly shooting torps and cruise missiles without any viewable launchers slots.
joomla alacard	Posted - 2010.12.04 04:29:00 - [87] Originally by: Hesperius Public vote in this kind of community... I don't see anyone feeling cheated here. ;D
joomla alacard	Posted - 2010.12.04 04:35:00 - [88] Originally by: Dragunov Vio when i see some of the designs of these ships, the understanding of spaceflight dynamics that i have yells out " YOUR DOING IT WRONG" ships must be centrally balanced, or compensated by thrust, half the ships in eve would either subtly fly in a curve rather then straight, or curve around rapidly and lose the plot. but then my awesome detector goes "OMG INTERNET SPACESHIPS!!!1!" Maybe that's why it takes so long to train up how to fly them well!
silnys NYS Minmatar	Posted - 2010.12.04 13:26:00 - [89] My work for the contest Peregrine SBC Linkage Kite Linkage Sinister Linkage ...i hope you like it
Baudolino Gallente Royal Crimson Lancers	Posted - 2010.12.04 13:54:00 - [90] Edited by: Baudolino on 04/12/2010 13:55:31 Originally by: freshspree FREEBORN FUJIN FUJIN looks like what a tech II megathron SHOULD have looked like. Very cool design. One of the few designs i`ve seen that actually looks like it`s tech II. Caldari BS by MotherMoon Caldari Battleship This looks like the caldari version of the macharial and it`s like the designer drew it straight out of Robotech.. Very cool ship..:) I really hope some of these make it into the game.. Also - maybe a few of the designs could actually replace some of the existing designs
Scorson Spanish Conquistadors CONQUISTADORS	Posted - 2010.12.04 15:24:00 - [91] Facebook isn¦t a good idea... Yes, I have pleanty of contacts there, including those who will promote my things... but isn¦t right. In the previous contest you made non-players to design something that don¦t have a clue how it must be, now you like to non-players vote about something they don¦t understand? I¦m thinking seriously if it worth the 3-4 days effort for me, a industrial designer, to participate. The design should be by players, the vote should be by players, logged in their accounts.
Grabaldy	Posted - 2010.12.04 15:45:00 - [92] Originally by: silnys NYS My work for the contest Peregrine SBC Linkage Kite Linkage Sinister Linkage ...i hope you like it I NEED those interceptors! and that t3 ship, think it needs class of it's own!
Pheonix Dragoon	Posted - 2010.12.04 15:57:00 - [93] anyone else having issues uploading pictures to the contest? I have tried and tried with different pictures and I keep getting the same error: "Please attach a GIF, PNG or JPG (max. 5MB) of your work" It is a jpg and it is only 2.8mb. I have tried a PNG as well at 3.5mb and still the same error ;p I tried different browsers, renaming, etc....no luck. I emailed the help email address but haven't heard from them yet and thats been 3 days ;p So I'm out of ideas ;p Anyone else have any?
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2010.12.04 23:14:00 - [94] CCP WTF are you even reading this thread? just tell us already so we start working! I don't want to waste 20+ hours on somethign just to have it beaten by someone who made a 3d model and just pressed render! I want to follow the rules, but if you give us an example of whats ok and what isn't how are we suppose to follow them?
Linna Excel	Posted - 2010.12.05 01:36:00 - [95] This is a silly question and probably a no, but for those of use with 3d programs, would it be possible to submit .obj files instead?
Adalara Tapten	Posted - 2010.12.05 04:56:00 - [96] You would think with the new evegate thing, They would find a way for you to vote on these ships using it.
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.12.05 04:57:00 - [97] EVE needs Tsunami and Freeborn. ...
Alexis Sapphire	Posted - 2010.12.05 06:23:00 - [98] Originally by: Razin EVE needs Tsunami and Freeborn. I'm personally not terribly crazy about the Freeborn, but I've loved the Tsunami since I first saw it in the DA contest. That DOES need to be in EVE.
Verlaine Glariant Amphysvena E C L I P S E	Posted - 2010.12.05 07:18:00 - [99] Looking at all these incredible designs I have the feeling that current in-game ship designs all need an important revamp cause I see them 'old'.
Cassus Temon	Posted - 2010.12.05 11:10:00 - [100] Originally by: Elisa Vilerum what about previus winner,manny peps will wine about ships looking bad but minmatar ships do look like fail usage of pentium 3 and mental tard in attempt to create viable kinda retro/solar thingy look... so while im happy with another ship contest i need that tornado to buzz around space and all min could use good looking ship ignore typos am driving That's bad you know..
BlinSky	Posted - 2010.12.05 11:19:00 - [101] OK so where do we actually submit? I can not see any info on that. Donno if I'l participate thou I still recover from the 3 weeks i lost with DA fake arranged contest....
Cassus Temon	Posted - 2010.12.05 11:42:00 - [102] Quote: òEntrants will need to provide six (6) views of their entry (all in the same image) in order to provide accurate represantation of details, measurements, and shapes. The six views should be clean, line drawings/illustrations/schematics of the exterior hull of the starship. It is preferred that you include a fully shaded/colored view (a seventh view) of the starship in the entry as well. For those of you questioning this; the rules are as stated above. To interpret them simply, they should be clean(free of smudges, cofee stains, and the like), line drawings(black on white); and either a drawing(concept of object), illustration(artistic line drawing including 7th view), or schematic(scaled drawing; with all images in the same scale. A 7th image would be exempt from the scale req.) In other words. 3D Models, or images of 3D models; are not an acceptable entry. Only those drwan with a 2D CAD program, Paint program; or scanned and retouched Ink or Pencil drawings are acceptable. Think of what you would use, to import and work from; in a 3D modeling program, for example. Also, no gridlines, or axis lines, and no watermarks; just the perspectives, (left, right, front, top, bottom, and back), and a notation including the length of the longest axis, in an unused corner. A seventh view, would be on a seperate image. I would also suggest, its likely to be more useful; should you make the entire image, of a size the would allow individual perspectives; to fall into the 1024x768 size range category. This will remove any issues with resizing, compression; and importing perspectives to a modeling program. Clear? Obviously, some of you may still want CCP to confirm something like this; but, I would expect any entry following these specifications to be acceptable.
Bhattran	Posted - 2010.12.05 14:58:00 - [103] Originally by: yieasase What is facebook? It is this 'social' thing that CCP wants to model EVE after with Micro transactions to do everything. --WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.--
Linna Excel	Posted - 2010.12.05 19:04:00 - [104] Cassus, it would be good to consider for future use at least. Some of the ship designs I've seen in EVE would be a little in drawing form without using extra drawings for some of the intricate/hidden areas. An .obj file would be something for them to look at in 3d and get a good idea of what was going on. It'd be in scale and easy to work with. BTW, there are free 3d art programs out there.
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Sodalitas XX	Posted - 2010.12.05 19:41:00 - [105] Some seriously impressive talent being displayed in this thread. Also, MotherMoon's questions really do need a CCP answer.
Imiarr Timshae Caldari Funny Men In Funny Hats	Posted - 2010.12.05 20:42:00 - [106] I would like to offically register my vote for the "Tornado". I do not use Facebook and will as such not be voting via that cesspool of a website. ----- Originally by: GM Horse Remember kids, both meth and macro use are Really Quite Bad Things. Originally by: CCP Shadow Tragic smelting accidents.
Joss56	Posted - 2010.12.05 21:29:00 - [107] Originally by: silnys NYS My work for the contest Peregrine SBC Linkage Kite Linkage Sinister Linkage ...i hope you like it I don't like matar ships desin but yours look realy fine so has i'm not using "Facecrap" i will not be abble to vote Would like to see what you could do for Gallente design so
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2010.12.05 23:11:00 - [108] Originally by: Cassus Temon Quote: òEntrants will need to provide six (6) views of their entry (all in the same image) in order to provide accurate represantation of details, measurements, and shapes. The six views should be clean, line drawings/illustrations/schematics of the exterior hull of the starship. It is preferred that you include a fully shaded/colored view (a seventh view) of the starship in the entry as well. For those of you questioning this; the rules are as stated above. To interpret them simply, they should be clean(free of smudges, cofee stains, and the like), line drawings(black on white); and either a drawing(concept of object), illustration(artistic line drawing including 7th view), or schematic(scaled drawing; with all images in the same scale. A 7th image would be exempt from the scale req.) In other words. 3D Models, or images of 3D models; are not an acceptable entry. Only those drwan with a 2D CAD program, Paint program; or scanned and retouched Ink or Pencil drawings are acceptable. Think of what you would use, to import and work from; in a 3D modeling program, for example. Also, no gridlines, or axis lines, and no watermarks; just the perspectives, (left, right, front, top, bottom, and back), and a notation including the length of the longest axis, in an unused corner. A seventh view, would be on a seperate image. I would also suggest, its likely to be more useful; should you make the entire image, of a size the would allow individual perspectives; to fall into the 1024x768 size range category. This will remove any issues with resizing, compression; and importing perspectives to a modeling program. Clear? Obviously, some of you may still want CCP to confirm something like this; but, I would expect any entry following these specifications to be acceptable. I WAN TO HEAR YOUR WORDS FROM CCP. like the grid lines thing, mine has grid lines, does that mean it will be throw out?
Venusa	Posted - 2010.12.05 23:28:00 - [109] Edited by: Venusa on 05/12/2010 23:34:04 What the hell ?! replace the fail deviant art team with a Facebook mechanic isnt a really smart choice... If CCP is trying to get a new start with this contest , Facebook is the worst way to take. Only EVE player should be able to vote, logged in their respective accounts. There is no reason to let people who dont give a to EVE to vote for the ships. Please just change that and you'll have your perfect contest whith happy players
Venorati	Posted - 2010.12.06 00:39:00 - [110] Edited by: Venorati on 06/12/2010 00:40:16 Edited by: Venorati on 06/12/2010 00:40:00 Originally by: MotherMoon caldari battleship Holy... I... Love it! (Same with the Kite, Sinister and Tsunami )
HeliosGal Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.06 01:04:00 - [111] Well its an interesting contest good to see ccp is giving us more hsips in 2011
Razin The xDEATHx Squadron Legion of xXDEATHXx	Posted - 2010.12.06 01:36:00 - [112] Originally by: Alexis Sapphire Originally by: Razin EVE needs Tsunami and Freeborn. I'm personally not terribly crazy about the Freeborn, but I've loved the Tsunami since I first saw it in the DA contest. That DOES need to be in EVE. My personal (and unrealistic) hope is that Freeborn will replace the Tempest. ...
Elisa Vilerum	Posted - 2010.12.06 01:46:00 - [113] people are still waiting for answers man up ccp
gargars	Posted - 2010.12.06 08:00:00 - [114] I acknowledge CCP trying to recover form the horrid Deviant Art debacle - but this post I support 10000%. What the hell does facebook have to do with eve other than trying to schmooze your way into a few new accounts. We aren't stupid you know. Originally by: Scorson Facebook isn¦t a good idea... Yes, I have pleanty of contacts there, including those who will promote my things... but isn¦t right. In the previous contest you made non-players to design something that don¦t have a clue how it must be, now you like to non-players vote about something they don¦t understand? I¦m thinking seriously if it worth the 3-4 days effort for me, a industrial designer, to participate. The design should be by players, the vote should be by players, logged in their accounts.
Cassus Temon	Posted - 2010.12.06 08:29:00 - [115] I'm not certain gridlines are unacceptable; or even that axis lines are, likewise. It just may be though, and easier to bypass that; if you just edit them out prior to submission. I also think it's quite possible to 3D Model, with the right program; as 3D Max, and some others, have Views that are unaffected by perspective distortion. This is what I think they are trying to avoid, mostly; with regards to 3D Models, and the like. So flat Views from a 3D Program like 3DS Max, (with no wirefram of course), taken and edited in a 2D program; to remove background colors and simplify the view, would likely also be perfectly acceptable. The end result would of course have to look like a schematic drawing; but aside from that, I don't see why it couldn't be done. Unfortunately, GMAX is downloading Fraps at the moment; so, I'm probably not going to post my own entry. It's been-literally--years since I sat down and drew a starship; and actually went to the effort to create schematic views for it, as has been requested. I'm not sure I could do it anymore; and, I recall exactly how much time went into it. A lot. I don't have that kind of time anymore, generally; and I'm not sure I want to make time for it. Particularly as I know a lot of you; will turn out much better work than I possibly could. GMAX would have made that easier I think; particularly as I've never successfully drawn an actual 7th view 3D is actually much easier to work with.
luvmehard	Posted - 2010.12.06 08:29:00 - [116] Excuse my ignorance, but...why was the DevianArt contest a failure?
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2010.12.06 11:20:00 - [117] Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 06/12/2010 11:24:06 Originally by: luvmehard Excuse my ignorance, but...why was the DevianArt contest a failure? The result wasn't a failure, but the actual process caused loads of problems and anger. Basicly there were loads of confusion about the rules and they weren't properly clarified during the competition. Later when the semi-finalists were announced, most of the popular and designs fitting well to EVE were not selected. Only a few were actually fit for EVE, rest were random scifi spaceships with even a LOL design that was in clear violation of the rules. Naturally EVE players and the DA artist were ****ed, since both felt cheated by the judges who clearly didn't even bother to follow their own rules and ignored the part where these designs were supposed to fit in to an existing franchise. As a result the LOL design was dropped and it was replaced by the winning design. As you can see even taking taste in to account it was hard to swallow that the lol piece of crap could ever be considered better than the tornado and the tornado was just 1 of many great designs that were ignored in favor of weaker designs.
luvmehard	Posted - 2010.12.06 11:33:00 - [118] Edited by: luvmehard on 06/12/2010 11:33:50 Originally by: Destination SkillQueue Edited by: Destination SkillQueue on 06/12/2010 11:24:06 Originally by: luvmehard Excuse my ignorance, but...why was the DevianArt contest a failure? The result wasn't a failure, but the actual process caused loads of problems and anger. Basicly there were loads of confusion about the rules and they weren't properly clarified during the competition. Later when the semi-finalists were announced, most of the popular and designs fitting well to EVE were not selected. Only a few were actually fit for EVE, rest were random scifi spaceships with even a LOL design that was in clear violation of the rules. Naturally EVE players and the DA artist were ***ed, since both felt cheated by the judges who clearly didn't even bother to follow their own rules and ignored the part where these designs were supposed to fit in to an existing franchise. As a result the LOL design was dropped and it was replaced by the winning design. As you can see even taking taste in to account it was hard to swallow that the lol piece of crap could ever be considered better than the tornado and the tornado was just 1 of many great designs that were ignored in favor of weaker designs. I see. Thank you for the clarification. It sure seems to have been an embarrassment. edit: grammar*
SFM Hobb3s Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.12.06 13:52:00 - [119] Well I've just about finished my ship, just shiny/bump maps left to go, so I'm just waiting for clarification on the rules before I submit. Caldari Battleship

CCP Spitfire	Posted - 2010.12.06 16:25:00 - [120] Hello everyone, To answer some of your questions: Q. Are 3D models rendered in line view for the 6 views acceptable? A. Yes. Q. Is having darkened areas to show depth acceptable? A. Yes, as long as you provide 6 clear views of the ship plus a color render. Q. Are plain grayscale renders of a 3D model allowed? A. Yes, but the renders should show detail clearly. Hope that helps. Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2010.12.06 18:15:00 - [121] Originally by: CCP Spitfire Hope that helps. It does, thank you. Just to be clear, http://lperegrine.deviantart.com/art/Sansha-s-Hellhound-182608966 would be a legal entry? -----------
Dante Allegre	Posted - 2010.12.06 23:10:00 - [122] Originally by: Linna Excel Cassus, it would be good to consider for future use at least. Some of the ship designs I've seen in EVE would be a little in drawing form without using extra drawings for some of the intricate/hidden areas. An .obj file would be something for them to look at in 3d and get a good idea of what was going on. It'd be in scale and easy to work with. BTW, there are free 3d art programs out there. What free 3D art programs might there be? I have some ideas i think are good and i would like to build on.
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.07 01:13:00 - [123] Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 07/12/2010 01:13:35 Originally by: Dante Allegre Originally by: Linna Excel Cassus, it would be good to consider for future use at least. Some of the ship designs I've seen in EVE would be a little in drawing form without using extra drawings for some of the intricate/hidden areas. An .obj file would be something for them to look at in 3d and get a good idea of what was going on. It'd be in scale and easy to work with. BTW, there are free 3d art programs out there. What free 3D art programs might there be? I have some ideas i think are good and i would like to build on. I used Google Sketchup for the Lammergeier but it doesn't have an inbuilt renderer but you can export the different windowed views as jpeg etc at whatever resolution you want... and then you can paint over the shaded 7th view in a program like GIMP (though I have Photoshop Elements 7 so I'm happy using that). You could try using Blender for your 3d but I couldn't get the thing to work on my Windows 7 64 bit system --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Linna Excel	Posted - 2010.12.07 02:43:00 - [124] Thanks for clearing that up Spitfire. Wings, blender and maybe silo (I think) allow for 3d modeling and are free.
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2010.12.07 03:26:00 - [125] Originally by: CCP Spitfire Hello everyone, To answer some of your questions: Q. Are 3D models rendered in line view for the 6 views acceptable? A. Yes. Q. Is having darkened areas to show depth acceptable? A. Yes, as long as you provide 6 clear views of the ship plus a color render. Q. Are plain grayscale renders of a 3D model allowed? A. Yes, but the renders should show detail clearly. Hope that helps. huzzah
John plissken Caldari Cerbian Cerbian Syndicate	Posted - 2010.12.07 21:23:00 - [126] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: CCP Spitfire Hope that helps. It does, thank you. Just to be clear, http://lperegrine.deviantart.com/art/Sansha-s-Hellhound-182608966 would be a legal entry? F*ck yes. moar faction ships now! need sansha toys dammit!
Argus Kell Gallente Global Economy Experts Stellar Economy Experts	Posted - 2010.12.07 23:52:00 - [127] Originally by: silnys NYS My work for the contest Peregrine SBC Linkage Kite Linkage Sinister Linkage ...i hope you like it I love the detail on Peregrine and the stylings of Sinister are very cool. I'd love to be flying Peregrine around lol. I also really liked the ships Fujin and Lammergeier.
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.08 18:55:00 - [128] Is there a link to where we can see ships that are already submitted? Or is the gallery not going to open until after the 21st?
m3talc0re X Caldari SandStorm.	Posted - 2010.12.09 02:38:00 - [129] Originally by: silnys NYS My work for the contest Peregrine SBC Linkage Kite Linkage Sinister Linkage ...i hope you like it CCP, hire this man (or woman)! I love those two Caldari ships.
Klann Schreck Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.09 02:43:00 - [130] peregrine and other T3 BCs nao plez. KTHXBAI!
Emkay Ultra	Posted - 2010.12.09 08:46:00 - [131] This facebook thing is a real turn off. I foresee a Like-spammage with little or no connection to beautiful artwork. Anyway, I am in the process of reworking my old submission that can be found here. Added some textures and yada yada and now looks like this. I'll probably drop the whole comic thing as it was not only semi ugly but also possibly a rule breaker. An isk for your thoughts?
Tiuwaz Minmatar No Paradise	Posted - 2010.12.09 16:38:00 - [132] Originally by: Emkay Ultra This facebook thing is a real turn off. I foresee a Like-spammage with little or no connection to beautiful artwork. Anyway, I am in the process of reworking my old submission that can be found here. Added some textures and yada yada and now looks like this. I'll probably drop the whole comic thing as it was not only semi ugly but also possibly a rule breaker. An isk for your thoughts? I really like it, it looks great and yeah I'd drop the comic thing for submisssion ;) My Critique: The style doesnt really seem Amarr to me. To me it looks like a mixture of Caldari with minmatar solar panels and some Amarr aspects and amarr paintjob. I think if you want to get past the first selection you need to adhere more to certain style conventions of the races, for example only Minni ships use solar panels afaik. ___________________________________
joomla alacard	Posted - 2010.12.09 16:56:00 - [133] Edited by: joomla alacard on 09/12/2010 16:56:38 Originally by: Emkay Ultra This facebook thing is a real turn off. I foresee a Like-spammage with little or no connection to beautiful artwork. Anyway, I am in the process of reworking my old submission that can be found here. Added some textures and yada yada and now looks like this. I'll probably drop the whole comic thing as it was not only semi ugly but also possibly a rule breaker. An isk for your thoughts? Looks pretty cool to me. Good job with the conversion! I'm working on mine still... hopefully I can finish in time
Emkay Ultra	Posted - 2010.12.09 18:36:00 - [134] Originally by: Tiuwaz My Critique: The style doesnt really seem Amarr to me. To me it looks like a mixture of Caldari with minmatar solar panels and some Amarr aspects and amarr paintjob. I think if you want to get past the first selection you need to adhere more to certain style conventions of the races, for example only Minni ships use solar panels afaik. Thanks for the critique! It's supposed to be a Minmatar cruiser reinforced with stolen Amarr plates. But it might deviate too much from that aswell... I'll see if I can maybe add a more Matari touch to it. =)
Abramul	Posted - 2010.12.10 03:13:00 - [135] I would suggest that even if it's preferred to have a public vote open to non-players, it would be a good idea also to do a player-only vote, perhaps using the forum voting method used for the recent crowdsourcing. If it's secondary to the official contest, maybe include some modest in-game rewards for the winner(s). Additionally, it looks like (if a Facebook account is needed for voting) you will want to include a mechanism to allow Eve players who do not wish to create one to vote.
Jim Luc Caldari Rule of Five	Posted - 2010.12.10 07:05:00 - [136] When and where can we see the submissions?
Katarin Savage Gallente azinko	Posted - 2010.12.10 09:17:00 - [137] Edited by: Katarin Savage on 10/12/2010 09:24:26 Edited by: Katarin Savage on 10/12/2010 09:23:17 is this: http://browse.deviantart.com/contests/2010/eveonline/ the link to this second contest entries?? I cant find (and I looked everywhere!!! all nite long...) and new contest entries not even on facebook, so where do we vote if we cant find the right pages?? the first starship contest was cool on deviantart now what?? all i found was this blog and the contest rules but no new entries?? this page here: http://www.evecontest.com/finalvote/ has no link to the 'browse entries' submitted and where's the link to facebook pages?? oh and i submitted again but where is my design gone == to the hidden contest page?? I shant be holding my breath... katarin savage ceo, azinko corp building a better future
Abramul	Posted - 2010.12.10 13:30:00 - [138] Originally by: Katarin Savage Edited by: Katarin Savage on 10/12/2010 09:24:26 Edited by: Katarin Savage on 10/12/2010 09:23:17 is this: http://browse.deviantart.com/contests/2010/eveonline/ the link to this second contest entries?? I cant find (and I looked everywhere!!! all nite long...) and new contest entries not even on facebook, so where do we vote if we cant find the right pages?? the first starship contest was cool on deviantart now what?? all i found was this blog and the contest rules but no new entries?? this page here: http://www.evecontest.com/finalvote/ has no link to the 'browse entries' submitted and where's the link to facebook pages?? oh and i submitted again but where is my design gone == to the hidden contest page?? I shant be holding my breath... My impression was that we won't see anything until they select the semi-finalists. Bit odd that there wasn't an 'entry successfully submitted' page or email, though.
Diesel47	Posted - 2010.12.10 14:35:00 - [139] Originally by: MotherMoon Edited by: MotherMoon on 03/12/2010 03:49:43 Edited by: MotherMoon on 02/12/2010 18:14:57 caldari battleship This and the peregrine T3 Now. Thanks.
Jita mcheck	Posted - 2010.12.10 16:03:00 - [140] When can we view the entries? want to see the ships.
stoicfaux Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.10 18:53:00 - [141] Originally by: Dragunov Vio when i see some of the designs of these ships, the understanding of spaceflight dynamics that i have yells out " YOUR DOING IT WRONG" ships must be centrally balanced, or compensated by thrust, half the ships in eve would either subtly fly in a curve rather then straight, or curve around rapidly and lose the plot. but then my awesome detector goes "OMG INTERNET SPACESHIPS!!!1!" Newton doesn't apply to Eve. And as much as I love the Caldari Battleship, the fact that it is symmetrical really bugs me. ----- "Are you a sociopathic paranoid schizophrenic with accounting skills? We have the game for you! -- Eve, the game of Alts, Economics, Machiavelli, and PvP"
Battle'Dog	Posted - 2010.12.10 19:43:00 - [142] rokh is symmetrical let it go man
Diesel47	Posted - 2010.12.11 00:38:00 - [143] Originally by: stoicfaux Originally by: Dragunov Vio when i see some of the designs of these ships, the understanding of spaceflight dynamics that i have yells out " YOUR DOING IT WRONG" ships must be centrally balanced, or compensated by thrust, half the ships in eve would either subtly fly in a curve rather then straight, or curve around rapidly and lose the plot. but then my awesome detector goes "OMG INTERNET SPACESHIPS!!!1!" Newton doesn't apply to Eve. And as much as I love the Caldari Battleship, the fact that it is symmetrical really bugs me. I have to disagree. There are too many non symmetrical ships in the game, it's cool... but it gets old after a while.
Stig Mata	Posted - 2010.12.11 02:15:00 - [144] Its all well and good most of the designs are warships but has anyone concidered doing up a design for a 100K CU Freighter. It may not be glorious but it would be the most usefull ship I could see being added. We have warships aplenty but a medium weight frieghter with some medium and low slots is what an industrialist like me would like to see.
Rising Wind	Posted - 2010.12.11 19:04:00 - [145] Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. Facebook Like button? What's a 'Facebook'?
Tatiana DeLovic	Posted - 2010.12.12 02:44:00 - [146] Why aren't we just using Spacebook for it? it might finally get some real attention.
SFM Hobb3s Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.12.13 18:03:00 - [147] Originally by: stoicfaux Originally by: Dragunov Vio when i see some of the designs of these ships, the understanding of spaceflight dynamics that i have yells out " YOUR DOING IT WRONG" ships must be centrally balanced, or compensated by thrust, half the ships in eve would either subtly fly in a curve rather then straight, or curve around rapidly and lose the plot. but then my awesome detector goes "OMG INTERNET SPACESHIPS!!!1!" Newton doesn't apply to Eve. And as much as I love the Caldari Battleship, the fact that it is symmetrical really bugs me. Shameless self-promotion of assymetrical Caldari battleship --> Caldari Battleship
Klann Schreck Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.13 20:13:00 - [148] Originally by: SFM Hobb3s Originally by: stoicfaux Originally by: Dragunov Vio when i see some of the designs of these ships, the understanding of spaceflight dynamics that i have yells out " YOUR DOING IT WRONG" ships must be centrally balanced, or compensated by thrust, half the ships in eve would either subtly fly in a curve rather then straight, or curve around rapidly and lose the plot. but then my awesome detector goes "OMG INTERNET SPACESHIPS!!!1!" Newton doesn't apply to Eve. And as much as I love the Caldari Battleship, the fact that it is symmetrical really bugs me. Shameless self-promotion of assymetrical Caldari battleship --> Caldari Battleship You made a battleship sized condor...
Kurosawa Yamato	Posted - 2010.12.15 19:43:00 - [149] Ever felt the need to convert heretics without making a mess? now you can with the mobile church ABBEY! No infidel asymmetries No heathen inertia stabilizers No heretic bullets All Divine Armor and lasers! (comes included with a singing choir) The Glorious Abbey
Zakua Sabot	Posted - 2010.12.17 13:38:00 - [150] Can we have the 6 orthos and then a few full color shots? Are we limited to just 1 7th view?
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.18 07:45:00 - [151] About to upload my final - though its just Lammergeier. Too busy with other things :S Very annoyed I've run out of time but at least I've prettied Lammergeier up a little bit. Is it possible if those of us that upload can get a quick 'acceptable to the rules' or not feed back in case we have gotten something wrong? Always worried I haven't done something correctly even after looking at the rules.. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.18 11:43:00 - [152] Posted the submission about 3 hrs ago... how long does it usually take for it to show up? Still don't see it. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.18 23:24:00 - [153] Originally by: Ivan Tesla Posted the submission about 3 hrs ago... how long does it usually take for it to show up? Still don't see it. Ok still not there - should I resubmit it? I'm assuming it goes through some manual review by CCP in some way before been posted for people to look at on the official contest site.... though if I don't see it I might just keep sending it till I do see it? --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.19 00:40:00 - [154] Originally by: Katarin Savage Edited by: Katarin Savage on 10/12/2010 09:24:26 Edited by: Katarin Savage on 10/12/2010 09:23:17 is this: http://browse.deviantart.com/contests/2010/eveonline/ the link to this second contest entries?? I cant find (and I looked everywhere!!! all nite long...) and new contest entries not even on facebook, so where do we vote if we cant find the right pages?? the first starship contest was cool on deviantart now what?? all i found was this blog and the contest rules but no new entries?? this page here: http://www.evecontest.com/finalvote/ has no link to the 'browse entries' submitted and where's the link to facebook pages?? oh and i submitted again but where is my design gone == to the hidden contest page?? I shant be holding my breath... I'm wondering if you ever got your ship in the contest? Which is your ship? --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Quicktime Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2010.12.19 17:01:00 - [155] A lot of very nice work here, and it is inspiring to see this level of quality from the Eve community. To the artist that created the Peregrine, and Kite very very good, professional presentation, and amazing work! You already have my vote, if you are going to do a polish pass focus on the lighting, shaders, and normal maps, maybe looking at using Mental Ray if you aren't already as a base renderer. I am sure you have some places that could be turned into running lights on both ships help create interior light sources, the ****pit material if it is glass could be boosted up, the metal plating normal maps could use more detail, and better definition / depth, also most new Eve ships have a simple ambient rotational animation, maybe it fits maybe not, heat exchange vents on the wings little transparent polys cards with heat distortion effects, maybe even do a VFX pass showing shield boosting or some more mods in an active state, maybe even an action shot firing so I can use it as a desktop image. :-) Again this is all small stuff, great work! -Quicktime 20 year game vet..
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.12.20 02:04:00 - [156] Aaaahh and I am late again... My 2 contributions : Immortalis Ananke The first one dates back from the first contest so I did another one and redesigned the whole layout. I have a question though, as asked just above : how much time does it take to be visible on the submissions page ? I have submitted the first one this morning and still nothing. Is there a CCP validation before ? I am slightly worried.
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.12.20 03:42:00 - [157] A lot of the displayed entries don't follow the rules, I'm assuming they will be removed from the final vote ? Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
SRS Tali Minmatar Enterprise Estonia Cult of War	Posted - 2010.12.20 17:04:00 - [158] Submitted my ship (apollyon) saturday night and still nothing shows up on contest page, what gives? Should i resubmit it?
Peacewise	Posted - 2010.12.20 21:46:00 - [159] Yet another perplexed designer wondering what gives with the designs not showing up. This is coming pretty close to the wire guys, it would be nice know that things are functioning on your end and we aren't going to be disqualified by default because the contest simply didn't upload the entries.
Ash Bellis''Mundis	Posted - 2010.12.20 23:04:00 - [160] Submitted my ship "sleepless survival" today but nothing appears on the contest page ? something wrong with my entry ? should I resubmit ?
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.12.20 23:17:00 - [161] Its just a simple mail form ( thus the 5 mb limit ). Obviously someone hasn't checked their mail. My first entry is up, but my second is still not showing. A lot of those entries shown still need to be culled as they don't follow the rules ! Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
Linna Excel	Posted - 2010.12.21 01:37:00 - [162] Well I put in my submissions... sadly none of them have been posted yet.
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.21 03:33:00 - [163] Originally by: Ash Bellis''Mundis Submitted my ship "sleepless survival" today but nothing appears on the contest page ? something wrong with my entry ? should I resubmit ? Well I did but with a slight addition to the presentation and 7th image... so hopefully when they do put it up (if?) they use the newer one and not the older version... --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.21 03:35:00 - [164] Originally by: syphurous Its just a simple mail form ( thus the 5 mb limit ). Obviously someone hasn't checked their mail. My first entry is up, but my second is still not showing. A lot of those entries shown still need to be culled as they don't follow the rules ! The 2nd upload of the Lammergeier is only 2.05 MB so that should be fine.. still nothing... CCP WAKE UP! --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.21 03:41:00 - [165] Originally by: Linna Excel Well I put in my submissions... sadly none of them have been posted yet. Has there been any recent CCP activity on the forums lately? ... whats going on?? There is still a competition isn't there?? Good Lordy this is like Australian media been deafeningly quiet about the US FED bailouts of Australian banks and our reserve bank!! (which was a secret until recently) by MANY billions and then pretending nothing happened (while saying we are so very strong economically and our banks are sound lol). Nothing to see hear, move along :P --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Pheonix Dragoon	Posted - 2010.12.21 06:03:00 - [166] I had been trying over and over for a few weeks to submit mine and even tried other computers and different ISP's and for some reason could never submit it because it kept telling me that it had to be 5mb and under...despite mine being no larger that 3.80mb. But less than a week ago I had a break through and it finally went in :) Linky....YAY!!! Good luck to you all who have submitted :)
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.21 06:41:00 - [167] Got a response from CCP Spitfire that they are looking into it. Thats good enough for me Cheers to Spitfire! --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.21 10:02:00 - [168] Here is my 7th view: Lammergeier 7th view only Changed from bright 'near a sun' look to something darker... --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.12.21 12:46:00 - [169] Originally by: Ivan Tesla Got a response from CCP Spitfire that they are looking into it. Thats good enough for me Cheers to Spitfire! Well I hope the files have been recieved. I had the confirmation it has been sent with both of my entries. Should be ok I hope ?
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.21 13:46:00 - [170] Originally by: Lyn Farel Originally by: Ivan Tesla Got a response from CCP Spitfire that they are looking into it. Thats good enough for me Cheers to Spitfire! Well I hope the files have been recieved. I had the confirmation it has been sent with both of my entries. Should be ok I hope ? I guess.. I think we have to leave it at that - if anyone thinks they'd feel safer sending in one submission a couple times over - why not. So far we don't even know what the problem is so I think we can safely assume that the competition deadline is a bit of a joke at this stage if the website doesn't even work properly...?.. Its come to CCPs attention that all is not well and I'm sure they'll do right by all of us even if it means extending time for resubmitting (if needed). --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Agasthra Kisosko	Posted - 2010.12.21 16:08:00 - [171] Hello Guys and Grisl, i have a big problem i can¦t upload/submit my Work on the Mainsite from the ShipContest. Anyone knowing about this problem? Plz help. here my Work Ship Legat // Dragonis
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.21 16:15:00 - [172] How do you know your submission got in okay? I just submitted one and all I got was a "Thank you for entering the contest! Winners will notified by email at the conclusion of this promotion." Is that confirmation enough that the entry got through? Or are other people getting the same page but not seeing their submissions in the gallery at all?
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.21 16:21:00 - [173] posting here my work... just in case... sorry for procedural materials, had no time to texture it Salvation
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.21 16:26:00 - [174] Originally by: Billy Kidd Is that confirmation enough that the entry got through? Or are other people getting the same page but not seeing their submissions in the gallery at all? True. i'd like a little bit more obvious confirmation page
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.21 16:46:00 - [175] Posting my work here as well, just in case. Fujin
joomla alacard	Posted - 2010.12.21 16:50:00 - [176] I hope they extend the time... I barely was able to submit in time. Just my luck; I was stuck in a traffic jam last night, and had to scramble to submit it at the 11th hour, closing in on the end! ...stupid people don't know how to merge... Considering I'd never touched a 3D modeling program prior to essentially 40 or so hours worth of combined free time ago, I feel like I did a decent job so far; it won't feel complete until it has color! went from this: (deviantArt contest entry) to this: ("final vote" entry) orthogonal views
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.21 17:30:00 - [177] Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 21/12/2010 17:30:58 Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 21/12/2010 17:30:40 Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 21/12/2010 17:30:29 Originally by: joomla alacard ... Yay! Blender returns and kicks ass!
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.12.21 19:54:00 - [178] Originally by: Billy Kidd How do you know your submission got in okay? I just submitted one and all I got was a "Thank you for entering the contest! Winners will notified by email at the conclusion of this promotion." Is that confirmation enough that the entry got through? Or are other people getting the same page but not seeing their submissions in the gallery at all? Thats the problem, I don't know. I got the same message.
vagy	Posted - 2010.12.21 21:17:00 - [179] same here
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.22 00:33:00 - [180] Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 22/12/2010 00:36:13 Well its the 22nd and voting is supposed to begin today some time... but since not all the ships are up (I'd say its obvious that most of ships done by people for this competition aren't up there yet) then this contest "may" have embraced the power of fail. How do you get a simple pew pew spaceship image upload contest completely stuffed up? Was this contest outsourced for someone other than CCP to conduct? If all the missing submissions aren't up today for voting on then CCP has to come out with an official statement that explains whats going on. Well no they don't, but it would be a good idea. Here is hoping its a minor stuff up and all will be resolved. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.22 01:24:00 - [181] Still nothing, and that confirmation page loads way too quickly. There's no way a file of that size got uploaded so fast. I submitted again to the contest and also to the help@evecontest address in the hopes that at least one of them got through.
Zakua Sabot	Posted - 2010.12.22 02:14:00 - [182] Edited by: Zakua Sabot on 22/12/2010 02:15:13 This is scary...I've tried uploading my PNG format entry 3 times and the page pops back up telling to correctly fill in the fields...lol..c'mon now, they are filled in correctly WTH! Is there a size limit to the uploads? I didnt see anything stating so. Sorry for typos...Im spazzing out trying to upload my entries Shrunk the pic down to 2.7mb, still no go
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.22 04:09:00 - [183] There's a little address at the bottom of the page you can email if you have problems. Try that. Hope you can at least submit your stuff...
novadoal	Posted - 2010.12.22 05:09:00 - [184] this is my model http://i51.tinypic.com/r299w0.jpg
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2010.12.22 05:29:00 - [185] Originally by: Zakua Sabot Edited by: Zakua Sabot on 22/12/2010 02:15:13 This is scary...I've tried uploading my PNG format entry 3 times and the page pops back up telling to correctly fill in the fields...lol..c'mon now, they are filled in correctly WTH! Is there a size limit to the uploads? I didnt see anything stating so. Sorry for typos...Im spazzing out trying to upload my entries Shrunk the pic down to 2.7mb, still no go Same here, legal .png (~2.5mb) and it refused to accept it. I ended up having to save it as a much smaller .jpg just to get something submitted, and sent the full .png version in to that help email. Behold, your new T2 Command Destroyer: http://eve-files.com/dl/234609 -----------
Markus Reese Caldari Lorentzian Expeditionaries	Posted - 2010.12.22 05:32:00 - [186] I didn't think I had problems with my upload a couple nights ago. Link to my submission though T3 prospect by ORE I will have to watch and see though.
Evelgrivion Ignatium.	Posted - 2010.12.22 06:36:00 - [187] This is as far as I was able to get before I ran out of time The only completed side
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.22 07:44:00 - [188] Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 22/12/2010 07:49:13 Originally by: Ivan Tesla Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 22/12/2010 00:36:13 Well its the 22nd... well, it looks like CCP simply forgot about the contest WOW, that's creepy... if you press "submit" button, site says: "The Contest is now over. Thank you for your partcipation!"
joomla alacard	Posted - 2010.12.22 08:08:00 - [189] Originally by: Evelgrivion This is as far as I was able to get before I ran out of time The only completed side wow that looks promising! you should keep working on it. did you start on it around the time of the deviantArt contest, or when this contest was announced? (I wish the entry window for the contest had been a bit longer :P)
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.22 08:17:00 - [190] argh! i found another fail in my work "Advanced Amarr Battlecruiser" instead of "Amarr Advanced Battlecruiser" Т_Т
Deliram	Posted - 2010.12.22 09:03:00 - [191] I have this problem too, 2 days ago i posted a new work i started like 1 week ago just for fun, then yestarday i submitted the gurista's Anaconda i made for the other contest, but still i see nothing on the contest site. I too guess/hope this is becouse they got flooded by submission in the week-end. On the 2 submission the files where like 4.8mbyte and i got the "thanks for submitting" message. Well.. nice work everyone i like the ships i saw ^_^ I just started playing with 3d in the other contest, as others do too, and i like the idea many use Blender/gimp! Long life open source!! By the way, to those who cant make blender work under windows.... you can make EVE work under linux without much problem, why keep playing eve/3d with windows!?:D Grab a linux Ubuntu/lucid(or almost any other distro) with wine and enjoy a nice OS :-)
Kamilla Vermillion University of Caille	Posted - 2010.12.22 09:27:00 - [192] blender works fine under my windows 7 64 but i prefer max - it has more tools, and it is more specific about size and position _______________________________________________
Zakua Sabot	Posted - 2010.12.22 13:29:00 - [193] Well I got both of my entries submitted, it looks like the file size had to be under 2mb...how oldschool of them muaha. GL to you all, some wicked looking designs out there!
Deliram	Posted - 2010.12.22 13:42:00 - [194] Originally by: Zakua Sabot Well I got both of my entries submitted, it looks like the file size had to be under 2mb...how oldschool of them muaha. GL to you all, some wicked looking designs out there! You are wrong, there is no "seem" relating to file size. If rules say it should be less than 5mega 4.9999mega works fines. Also i got my 2 submission accepted with the "thank you" message too, it's just they don't show in the evecontest preview and other has the same problem. Finally, CCP dont say anything, and nothing is written elsewhere, please someone tell us something like there are too many ships or similar :-)
Kamilla Vermillion University of Caille	Posted - 2010.12.22 14:03:00 - [195] Originally by: Deliram Finally, CCP dont say anything, and nothing is written elsewhere, please someone tell us something like there are too many ships or similar :-) maybe, this was just a fraud, and CCP has nothing to do with this contest? _______________________________________________
Zakua Sabot	Posted - 2010.12.22 14:11:00 - [196] LOL
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.12.22 14:44:00 - [197] Originally by: Billy Kidd There's a little address at the bottom of the page you can email if you have problems. Try that. Hope you can at least submit your stuff... Where have you found this mail adress ? Can't find anything. :/
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.22 15:33:00 - [198] with all due respect to CCP, they could have reacted faster _______________________________________________
noc D	Posted - 2010.12.22 16:08:00 - [199] my file size 1.49mb. i tried to send it twice. it seems ok but i couldnt see it in entries. i petitioned it coz seems like we cant get any answer on forums. :/
Deliram	Posted - 2010.12.22 16:46:00 - [200] Originally by: Kamilla Vermillion Originally by: Deliram Finally, CCP dont say anything, and nothing is written elsewhere, please someone tell us something like there are too many ships or similar :-) maybe, this was just a fraud, and CCP has nothing to do with this contest? Lol :-) I hope not.. who hacked a CCP account on the forum?!?!:D Btw now the "browse entry" is "Browse some of the entry", it's just me who previously not see that "some" or they added it NOW ?:p
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.22 17:11:00 - [201] Originally by: Deliram Btw now the "browse entry" is "Browse some of the entry", it's just me who previously not see that "some" or they added it NOW ?:p true i presume this is a patch on patch #9000.01 we'll be allowed to see all the entries _______________________________________________
Zakua Sabot	Posted - 2010.12.22 17:17:00 - [202] Thats silly you get to only see some of the entries. This all should have been layed out so non of the entries are visible until CCP has weeded the non quals out then allow everyone to view them.
Linna Excel	Posted - 2010.12.22 18:22:00 - [203] It looks like they've added some new ones, but not a lot and we still can't vote.
Zakua Sabot	Posted - 2010.12.22 22:21:00 - [204] Well it is a 3 tier process, I believe CCP will weed out the fails and ones that didnt fit the criteria then release the remaining entries to the public vote and from that selection they will pic the final winners. I imagine we'll not see anything for us to vote on for a few days.
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.22 22:22:00 - [205] December 22 almost passed... nothing changed and no additional information was given really, what the hell? _______________________________________________
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.22 22:29:00 - [206] Originally by: Zakua Sabot Well it is a 3 tier process, I believe CCP will weed out the fails and ones that didnt fit the criteria then release the remaining entries to the public vote and from that selection they will pic the final winners. I imagine we'll not see anything for us to vote on for a few days. are you serious? how many entries do you think they have? i think less than 1000 i dont see any kind of complexity here _______________________________________________
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.23 02:42:00 - [207] Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 23/12/2010 02:43:10 Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 23/12/2010 02:42:32 The amount of submissions has not changed (121 submissions) so no they haven't uploaded any new ships at all (unless there are getting rid of some for others?). Come on CCP what on earth is going on? If this competition had been conducted in the flesh I can just imagine it - 'initially' a whole bunch of people waiting in line to drop their entries in envelopes into a glossily & professionally decorated cardboard box with an open slit at the top for submissions. Some people can't get theirs in because the slit is too small, they ring the bell next to the box but nobody comes to help (aside from shrugs from other contestants). Some get their envelopes in but are unsure it will be counted since no one is there to process what is inside the box. In fact, there is no official person near the box or the area though there is a huge banner advertising the competition. People can see the CCP employees through the windows next to the box, working away at their computers and after a lot of yelling by some for help, one CPP official, though probably not involved in the competition but wondering what the all the noise is about, pops his head out a building window above the box and says they'll try to find out whats going on. The crowd rejoices. ..the day of voting comes, everyone approaches the glossy box.. which initially had the words 'all submissions are inside' to 'some submissions inside'. Worried looks pass between the contestants and the realisation that there are still no officials around to collect votes, all the boards around the box that are supposed to display the submissions to voters are empty. Some laugh in bemusement and walk away, amazed at how badly run it obviously is and just count their lucky stars that whom ever ran this competition didn't have something more important to organize .. or so they hope. Beh, my story telling is not great but there you go. Lets hope DA didn't run this competition for CCP :) I'd laugh so much if that was the case! --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.23 05:06:00 - [208] WooHOO!! I received an email 13 hours ago (oops :) from CCP, they are reviewing and pre-qualify all submissions before posted to the site. They expect it to be completed today or latest tomorrow! This is excellent news,don't know why this isn't indicated on the main site but whatever - a response that says the cogs are working. Thank you CCP for responding with an explanation. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Markus Reese Caldari Lorentzian Expeditionaries	Posted - 2010.12.23 05:38:00 - [209] Originally by: Ivan Tesla WooHOO!! I received an email 13 hours ago (oops :) from CCP, they are reviewing and pre-qualify all submissions before posted to the site. They expect it to be completed today or latest tomorrow! This is excellent news,don't know why this isn't indicated on the main site but whatever - a response that says the cogs are working. Thank you CCP for responding with an explanation. Did you file a petition or did multiple people get this? I never got an email myself and saw no posting, just wondering, as stil concerns about receivership, will have to see, and whether I rabble or not :p
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2010.12.23 05:53:00 - [210] Ivan. In the mail do they mean EST this morning, before noon, or the 24th.
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.23 06:09:00 - [211] Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 23/12/2010 06:09:33 Originally by: Noro Aelkiota Ivan. In the mail do they mean EST this morning, before noon, or the 24th. I received the email on the 23 December 2010 02:42 (I'm in Australia so...shrug) --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.23 06:18:00 - [212] Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 23/12/2010 06:19:01 Originally by: Markus Reese Originally by: Ivan Tesla WooHOO!! I received an email 13 hours ago (oops :) from CCP, they are reviewing and pre-qualify all submissions before posted to the site. They expect it to be completed today or latest tomorrow! This is excellent news,don't know why this isn't indicated on the main site but whatever - a response that says the cogs are working. Thank you CCP for responding with an explanation. Did you file a petition or did multiple people get this? I never got an email myself and saw no posting, just wondering, as stil concerns about receivership, will have to see, and whether I rabble or not :p I sent an email to the [email protected] located on the contest website.. that was several days ago that I sent it. I sent it to state to them I had sent a 2nd submission of the same ship and to explain what I wanted. They could be busy replying to everyone or just those that make the most noise? I got a bad feeling my ship submission might be left out? lol oww ... oh well. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2010.12.23 06:44:00 - [213] Where is this help link on the contest site? I looked everywhere and tried typing it into my browser and got a 'this might be a trick' message.
Scorson Spanish Conquistadors CONQUISTADORS	Posted - 2010.12.23 08:14:00 - [214] Hi, why the vote didn't started? I understand it should be already avaliable for vote.. Thanks
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2010.12.23 08:22:00 - [215] Happy December 23rd, the day before December 24th, upon which the night is Christmas EVE. Remember, CCP staff have lives outside of EVE, and you wouldn't want the children of the staff of your favorite game to go wanting, would you? :P Cut these guys some slack, this is the season to have plenty to finish up, and it is almost Christmas. That being said, Merry Christmas to everyone, and thank you for throwing this contest. Another note - keep in mind, a lot of submissions happen last minute, and many of them may not fit the guidelines, or barely fit, or etc, so a lot of decision making about whether to accept them as is, send them back to be cut down a whole 200kb of data, or the like, may be at hand. Saying that the voting would be up by the 22nd was a bit optimistic and unrealistic. Oh well. For the sites; Main Contest Site: http://www.evecontest.com/finalvote/ View Entries Site: http://www.evecontest.com/finalvote/browse.php If you guys want something else to do while you wait, feel free to do one of the EVE Radio contests if they are still going, or come to Holiday Spirit's Ship Giveaway later today. He says it MIGHT start somewhere around 7pm EST (4pm Pacific, Midnight Thursday Night / Friday Morning UTC time). You can find his post here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1432012&page=2 Enjoy. Behave. Santa doesn't have to play EVE to spank you. Keep in mind... he knows when you're sleeping
novadoal	Posted - 2010.12.23 11:37:00 - [216] Edited by: novadoal on 23/12/2010 11:39:48 Edited by: novadoal on 23/12/2010 11:38:43 BS amarr name:Astaroth size: lenght 999m height 325 width 235 Astaroth
Scorson Spanish Conquistadors CONQUISTADORS	Posted - 2010.12.23 12:55:00 - [217] ok, I don't have problem with that.. Where it will be anounced? Happy Xmas!!!
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.23 13:25:00 - [218] Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 23/12/2010 13:32:34 who knows when.. Anyway at least they know there is a problem now (if they didn't before) jumping up and down might seem annoying to the calm, but if there is an issue (prehaps there was a problem with uploads and they didn't know? shrug anyone's guess) - it can help to direct attention to it for a fixing. :) Regardless, have a happy and safe Christmas everyone! or Lo Saturnalia --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Akroma Wrathbringer Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.23 16:08:00 - [219] You would think CCP would be nice enough to post a sticky thread informing their community as to whats going on and when we can expect a voting. FAIL
SFM Hobb3s Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2010.12.23 17:37:00 - [220] Edited by: SFM Hobb3s on 23/12/2010 17:39:20 Let's not forget this contest is being run internally (thank goodness no more DA). And CCP is in the middle of prepping and deploying the largest part of incursion, so I'm surprised this contest actually proceeded as fast as it did. If you try to submit anything you get a message the contest is over, so some gears are moving somewhere!
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.23 18:40:00 - [221] and now "Browse some of the entry" link has gone can we consider this is an improvement? _______________________________________________
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.24 07:58:00 - [222] December 24 failfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfail _______________________________________________
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:14:00 - [223] ....Make-up is a fail? I'm as anxious and checking this with enough anticipation as you, but anything a week before the 8th of January is a success. In fact, they might even extend the time allocated for voting.
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.24 08:46:00 - [224] Originally by: Noro Aelkiota ....Make-up is a fail? i mean this forum make-up because of this: failfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfail _______________________________________________
Deliram	Posted - 2010.12.24 12:34:00 - [225] Needless to say it's a bit of shame no one of CCP say nothing to us.. but I prefer they make it slow than as DA staff has done, in time and with bad result(without saying wrost possible results). Also think that the people who are working on this contest maybe don't have the rights to post on this forum on behalf of CCP, maybe that's why it's all so quiet. As DA has done i think they underestimate the community thinking that a internal contest would give them just some hundred ships, and maybe they got some thousands :D So let's just wait and keep faith, at the lest they have done this contest after our request and we all new that day for pre-judge all the entries was optimistic at the very least. In the end all the time they are buying is for judge our work in good way and to take some holiday they deserve(who can blame someone for going vacation?! NO ONE! :P) Let's wait ...... we cant do anything about that :D
silnys NYS Minmatar	Posted - 2010.12.24 13:31:00 - [226] Hello. I do not know why, but one of my works published twice. Excuse me, but I do not understand how it happened. Published once it. This is a work of "PREGRINE Strategic BC Tech 3. Please take note of this incident. Sincerely, Silnys.
Cousin Balki	Posted - 2010.12.24 20:35:00 - [227] Anyone know why the site for the contest won't show any of the entries or allow voting? All I get is a link to the rules and a submit button; and the submit button only tells you that the contest is closed. The hell?!?!?
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2010.12.24 21:34:00 - [228] When it says the contest is closed, it is most likely referencing that the contest is closed to submissions, rather than that the contest itself is terminated. Unfortunately, CCP does end up taking a while on the contest, sometimes much longer than they announced. That is a fact to be anticipated with any contest, unfortunately - even in game ones such as the Alliance Tournaments. And I do lament the fact that there have been no updates on the contest, not on the website or in this post - some sort of update to even let us know that they are processing would be nice, and it wouldn't take too long to post a simple message. Alas, it comes to a question - how long would it take to post a simple message detailing what is going on with each individual aspect that the person is responsible for? 5 minutes per responsibility can add up, and rather easily. However, this contest wasn't going to be over by New Years anyway. And it occurred very close to the holiday seasons, over which there is always less time to get things done. On top of that, the devs also have to take care of the largest of the Incursion releases. The devs that manage this contest weren't hired specifically for it, to lose their jobs after the contest is over... so give them some time to do their main job, and to sort out all of the last minute entries, as well as so many of the entries on this forum thread. In a way, it is our own faults that this is taking so long. But on the bright side, this contest will be updated, eventually, and once the entries are all organized, everything else should go much, much smoother. This being EVE and all, I won't tell you to go out and do something to make up for all the pods the lot of you have killed this year. But even though it'll probably kill half of you to do so... do try to smile. That'll take half of you out of the picture, and double my chances of winning. Dead people can't win, right? Of course, what with the recent talk of giving zombies health care, I might have to reconsider what dead people are entitled to.
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.24 22:50:00 - [229] Originally by: Nakayme Caonis When it says the contest is closed, it is most likely referencing that the contest is closed to submissions, rather than that the contest itself is terminated. Unfortunately, CCP does end up taking a while on the contest, sometimes much longer than they announced. That is a fact to be anticipated with any contest, unfortunately - even in game ones such as the Alliance Tournaments. And I do lament the fact that there have been no updates on the contest, not on the website or in this post - some sort of update to even let us know that they are processing would be nice, and it wouldn't take too long to post a simple message. Alas, it comes to a question - how long would it take to post a simple message detailing what is going on with each individual aspect that the person is responsible for? 5 minutes per responsibility can add up, and rather easily. However, this contest wasn't going to be over by New Years anyway. And it occurred very close to the holiday seasons, over which there is always less time to get things done. On top of that, the devs also have to take care of the largest of the Incursion releases. The devs that manage this contest weren't hired specifically for it, to lose their jobs after the contest is over... so give them some time to do their main job, and to sort out all of the last minute entries, as well as so many of the entries on this forum thread. In a way, it is our own faults that this is taking so long. But on the bright side, this contest will be updated, eventually, and once the entries are all organized, everything else should go much, much smoother. This being EVE and all, I won't tell you to go out and do something to make up for all the pods the lot of you have killed this year. But even though it'll probably kill half of you to do so... do try to smile. That'll take half of you out of the picture, and double my chances of winning. Dead people can't win, right? Of course, what with the recent talk of giving zombies health care, I might have to reconsider what dead people are entitled to. It would be a lot better if a dev said these things, and confirmed that the contest hasn't been forgotten about and that our entries won't end up in the trash folder of someone's inbox.
Pheonix Dragoon	Posted - 2010.12.24 23:32:00 - [230] I just got an eve newsletter that shows voting has started and gives a link. But when you click the link it goes to the same contest page that we all know about with nothing on it for voting. So I don't know what is up....
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2010.12.25 06:01:00 - [231] Give it till Monday. They picked a bad time to try and rush it thats for sure. They have to get revised voting dates approved and that can only get finalized once they have all the entries ready for voting. I think CCP got in over there heads with this one again Most likely got started late builing the voting pages give them some time.
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.27 14:41:00 - [232] Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 27/12/2010 14:40:47 WTF? i dont see any progress _______________________________________________
Welsige Gallente	Posted - 2010.12.27 16:17:00 - [233] Whatever they chose, I hope its simetrical in design.
Ghengis Tia	Posted - 2010.12.27 17:27:00 - [234] Originally by: Cousin Balki Anyone know why the site for the contest won't show any of the entries or allow voting? All I get is a link to the rules and a submit button; and the submit button only tells you that the contest is closed. The hell?!?!? Ditto. I will not join Facebook to vote in any event. I hope there is some sort of way we can vote without being part of "Comradebook".
LordElfa Gallente Revan's Fist	Posted - 2010.12.27 23:13:00 - [235] Originally by: Salpun Give it till Monday. They picked a bad time to try and rush it thats for sure. They have to get revised voting dates approved and that can only get finalized once they have all the entries ready for voting. I think CCP got in over there heads with this one again Most likely got started late builing the voting pages give them some time. Okay, it's Monday, what now?
Pod Salesman	Posted - 2010.12.28 01:12:00 - [236] Originally by: Welsige Whatever they chose, I hope its simetrical in design. I hope it is symmetrical too.
Dareth Meroul	Posted - 2010.12.28 03:35:00 - [237] In light of the delays CCP is experiencing, and my own personal experience of just not being able to scrounge together enough time to even try to participate, it seems that doing this contest in the middle of the Christmas holiday season... was not such a great idea. It's too bad. Even mid-to-late January would've worked so much better for me; and likely for CCP as well.
darius mefrel	Posted - 2010.12.28 10:18:00 - [238] Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. OMG FAIL! simply FAIL! i thought the EVE-Community can select the 20 Semi-finalists, i really thought CCP would allow us to be part of the voting-mechanism... But NO!, some Facebook-morons now have the choice for voting wich 20 Models maybe get it into the Game... wonderfull... I ask myself how much Facebook have paid to CCP to make this Voting happen... For myself i don't see any sense for subscribing to "Facebook" just for this Contest, so like i said... FAIL!
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2010.12.28 11:17:00 - [239] Originally by: darius mefrel Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. OMG FAIL! simply FAIL! i thought the EVE-Community can select the 20 Semi-finalists, i really thought CCP would allow us to be part of the voting-mechanism... But NO!, some Facebook-morons now have the choice for voting wich 20 Models maybe get it into the Game... wonderfull... I ask myself how much Facebook have paid to CCP to make this Voting happen... For myself i don't see any sense for subscribing to "Facebook" just for this Contest, so like i said... FAIL! i have a feeling its to give CCP free advertising, ie your friends see that you liked it and then see eve
Kwisat Haderach Minmatar ReallyPissedOff Guinea Pigs	Posted - 2010.12.28 13:13:00 - [240] Can the voting for CSM be held on facebook too please? Devblogs should be there too!. Please! FFS
Zar'arakof	Posted - 2010.12.28 14:16:00 - [241] I'm dont care if you have to be on facebook to vote, I woud joust like someone from CCP to post a coment were they coud say what all the delays are from and when we can finaly vote on the ships as this is stil not posible even if it shoud have been since 22nd of December. There is absolutly no way to vote for any ships on facebook as they arent there
Goodwin Caldari Forsaken Empyreal The Ancients.	Posted - 2010.12.28 16:57:00 - [242] I don't think there is any need to get all upset about the delay. The vote will likely happen, just not as intended (date-wise). With any company and the holiday span of Christmas to New Years, I can from experience say; they are probably at half staff at best. I know we are and I work for a hospital. It is probable that the issues of actual game bugs and fixes are taking priority at this time. After re-reading the rules and thinking of alternate perceptions of how they might be taken; it is possible we will not see the voting selection until the 8th of January. While this could be wrong, I am not going to rule it out. Yes, I submitted works for consideration and heck ya I would like to win; but things are going to play out as they will. At least this time some slob from dA is not voting on how 'pretty' your background is. Take it for what it is worth, a second opportunity. Member of the million AU Caracal Club
Nosferatu Zodd	Posted - 2010.12.28 18:24:00 - [243] Facebook is a worldwide information collection tool for the CIA. Howard Cox, one of the people behind Facebook is also one of the board members of In-Q-Tel. In-Q-Tel is an investment fund of venture capital of the CIA. Their target is to develop technologies for the CIA. And they have invested large amounts of money in Visible Technologies, a software company specializing in monitoring of social media, read "social media sites as one of the primary targets". I dropped my account three years ago, two years before I heard of this information. I knew there was something terribly wrong with that thing. Before you even worry about your social security number I'd worry about all the personal information you supply there. They'll even know what type of ship you'd like to fly in your preferred game. I know that's not what we should be worried about. I won't vote on book
Nosferatu Zodd	Posted - 2010.12.28 18:29:00 - [244] Isn't it possible to add a page of all the preselected submissions, give every submission a number and vote on the forum with a poll?
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.28 19:13:00 - [245] i wrote to [email protected], to [email protected] i contacted CSM still nothing people, if you can, please use any influence you have _______________________________________________
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.12.28 23:59:00 - [246] Will see in January, after the new year and the vacations. No need to hurry at the moment, I will get worried later if still nothing.
Dierdra Vaal	Posted - 2010.12.29 01:21:00 - [247] We (the CSM) are poking the relevant CCP guys on this. So far however the response has not been very productive. We'll let you guys know as soon as we can. * * * Director of Education :: EVE University * * * CSM1 delegate, CSM3 chairman and CSM5 vice-chairman
Akroma Wrathbringer Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.29 03:25:00 - [248] Originally by: Dierdra Vaal We (the CSM) are poking the relevant CCP guys on this. So far however the response has not been very productive. We'll let you guys know as soon as we can. Thank you!
Callcenteragent	Posted - 2010.12.29 06:29:00 - [249] U should do more fishing, it supports having patience. But a smal comment from CCP would be also good.
Broanan	Posted - 2010.12.29 07:05:00 - [250] check her out :L and i dont know if she was uploaded or not couldnt see her :( but tell me if you like its a sansha stealth battlecruiser :) http://s424.photobucket.com/albums/pp330/akkan117/?action=view¤t=gangley.jpg
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.29 07:22:00 - [251] Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 29/12/2010 07:23:10 Broanan, resolution is too low to formulate a definite opinion also, shape may be good, but some details (that i cant see clear because of resolution) look creepy _______________________________________________
Broanan	Posted - 2010.12.29 09:56:00 - [252] heh ya i realise its not the original size. The original picture was 4504x2256 and the details where easy to see but because of photobucket website the images was altered :/
Broanan	Posted - 2010.12.29 10:08:00 - [253] try this http://loicimacon.deviantart.com/#/d35x3yh
Broanan	Posted - 2010.12.29 10:12:00 - [254] just click the download button wait a minute so it loads then one image should fit your whole screen :) then u can scroll to see all the images
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2010.12.29 17:06:00 - [255] http://noroaelkiota.deviantart.com/#/d35gcan Really liking how you toned down the translucence for your Sansha cloaker, would love to see the U/Vs though. This is a Gurista/Caldari Surgical Stealth Ship. A ship class idea I was proposing in Suggestions two years or so ago. Everything relevant is in the file, couldn't get any responses in a thread I had created for a compilation of all our entries. -Noro
Burhtun	Posted - 2010.12.29 21:16:00 - [256] I found out about this finalvote thing the day of the deadline, so I only had time to make some small modifications and slap a quick layer of paint over my entry from the DA fiasco: http://burhtun.deviantart.com/art/Amarr-Apotheon-182589424 If I had known about this earlier I would have modeled one of my other sketches, probably sketch 'F': http://burhtun.deviantart.com/art/amarr-fleet-180949148
Akroma Wrathbringer Caldari	Posted - 2010.12.30 01:33:00 - [257] Originally by: Burhtun If I had known about this earlier I would have modeled one of my other sketches, probably sketch 'F': http://burhtun.deviantart.com/art/amarr-fleet-180949148 B and C are amazing!
Deperem Mac Amarr Amarr Space Purification	Posted - 2010.12.30 02:30:00 - [258] 1. Some truly amazing ships entered into the contest. And others, beyond amazing. I drool at the thought of being able to fly them, (or blow them up). 2. I'd have to have a facebook account to vote, and that's just not going to happen. I had Facebook. My account was hacked. I got hit with massive targeted spam. I quit Facebook, and I'm not going back. 3. Warning, Nerdrage time. What happened to Eve Gate? Wasn't it supposed to be a Facebook for EVE? Aren't all EVE players already a part of it? (Even if we don't want to be.) Isn't this contest exactly one of the things Eve Gate was supposed to be for? Have the devs completely written it off, or have they forgotten about it already? (Like that would surprise anyone). And lastly, am I the only non Facebook fan here who feels like this is a huge slap in the face?
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.12.30 02:41:00 - [259] Being Facebook voting, its purely going to be a popularity contest anyway. I was a little too busy / distracted to layout the UV's and paint the panels / details on. But I entered twice. Sansha Cyno Hull to go with your fancy pants new Sansha Carrier. Interbus Atlas Blockade Runner for those with piles of Interbus LP, and nothing to spend it on. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2010.12.30 05:51:00 - [260] Voting is up and yes you have to have a facebook account. Lots of great looking ships
Burhtun	Posted - 2010.12.30 07:18:00 - [261] I'm surprised that Caldari "lambcatcher" didn't make it in there. Maybe they felt it was too similar to the Drake. There are some good designs in there though. Its going to be tough to choose my 3 favorites. Dammit I wish I knew about this earlier so I could have built another ship. Ah well. Can build them for fun anyway. Oh, and some of the ships give a 404 when you try to view the full size pic.
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.30 09:41:00 - [262] Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 30/12/2010 09:45:52 so, where is my work? i cant find it there really, this and this better than my work? and yeah, this thingie totally rocks you know, **ck you guys! _______________________________________________
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2010.12.30 10:09:00 - [263] Yeah, this is just weird. My Whirlwind destroyer is posted just fine, but my Sansha battlecruiser (IMO, a better design) is missing. Same overall presentation, submitted well before the deadline (with confirmation page), and very clearly a design that is appropriate for EVE. So why is one ship there, and the other one missing? For reference: Posted just fine: Whirlwind Not there at all: Hellhound And just to add insult to injury, since the voting page re-sizes the image to fit the horizontal size of the popup window, my horizontally-arranged image gets shrunk down to a point where you can't see any of the details, but vertically-arranged images have a lot more room and show more detail. I'd be fine with this if they'd told us the dimmensions of the viewing page, but not a word was said about this. -----------
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.30 10:33:00 - [264] to resume: this contest is organized the worst way it could be organized devil-may-care attitude towards entrants and this forum thread is not what i expected from CCP and i dont think that some christian holidays may be an excuse _______________________________________________
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2010.12.30 11:06:00 - [265] Edited by: Guy Ferox on 30/12/2010 11:07:40 im glad i spent 45+ hrs of my freetime; learning a cad system, thinking of an original concept, and revising for this contest to not even have my work displayed. but hey dont worry this guys mimitar shuttle made it this amarr thorax must better also
Mister Hig	Posted - 2010.12.30 11:36:00 - [266] Hi all, i've no facebook account (facebook suck definitly) but i vote for Alexey M and his Battlecruiser Mentor http://www.evecontest.com/finalvote/show.php?f=12192010-122339_331&t=Mentor%20by%20Alexey%20M&id=23&KeepThis=true&TB_iframe=true&height=565&width=384&modal=true very great design and the Strix frigate is great too. The Mentor is close to the Amarr design spirit and Amarr is the best, everybody know that :)
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2010.12.30 12:08:00 - [267] no cookies for my cruiser :( ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.12.30 12:58:00 - [268] Not any of mine were selected either (Immortalis & Ananke). Well, maybe they just wanted conventionnal races (or not, there is a Jove ship and an interbus ship). I also spent 50++ hours on those, but it is the very nature of a contest that you might be disappointed in a way or another, heh. My real issue is more with all the mess we had in the last days when I submitted my work. None of my designs were visible on the page and since they have still not been. So I even have no clue at all if my work was actually recieved by CCP : I mean, I do not know if I was not selected or if the work was lost in the submitting process. :( NB : and yes, facebook voting is fail. Selected or not, I would never have created an account for that, thank you very much.
syphurous Gallente Center for Advanced Studies	Posted - 2010.12.30 13:13:00 - [269] The contest was, and has always been this. Everyone enters, CCP internally chooses semi finalists, public vote for top 20, CCP art team votes final 5 winners. Besides the fact the top 20 is more of a "who has most friends that will click through awkward system to find friends entry". Not everyone's entries fit the critera, and the page was not updated with the entries. It would be nice to have a page with all the ones that got voted out, at least that would show the actual number of entries they all went through to get down to this 40+. Most people will read this thinking it's part of my post, when its actually my sig :P
Daisuke Iyejasu	Posted - 2010.12.30 13:38:00 - [270] I don¦t understand why submitted CCP more of one Work from the same Artist(3+) for the Top20+ Final Vote. I think so gives CCP no chance for another good Designs from various Artists. I see like DTja-vu from the last Devianart contest
Samsarin	Posted - 2010.12.30 14:28:00 - [271] I'm quite surprised with choice of some semi-finalists, and when I say that, I don't mean it in a good way. Few of my favorite designs that I saw as early entries to this competition are not there. And this smells like previous DA competition to me. It would be nice if CCP would show all participating entries. Thanks. ... Each small candle. Lights a corner of the dark.
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.30 14:53:00 - [272] Originally by: Burhtun I'm surprised that Caldari "lambcatcher" didn't make it in there. Maybe they felt it was too similar to the Drake. There are some good designs in there though. Its going to be tough to choose my 3 favorites. Dammit I wish I knew about this earlier so I could have built another ship. Ah well. Can build them for fun anyway. Oh, and some of the ships give a 404 when you try to view the full size pic. Thanks for thinking of my ship :) Yep, I just checked (a usually daily ritual till now) to see if the website was fixed - and ...oohh my ship ain't there :( I really liked the Lammergeier/Lamb Catcher, thought it had a good chance, maybe I complained too much about the contest? Won't waste my time on it next time and just make ships for the hell of it. Though without money as a prize probably not. (thats what kept family at bay from nagging me not to wasting my time ;) Need to work on something to make me some money :) --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.30 15:19:00 - [273] Here was my actual submission for the contest, I don't think it was ever shown on the contest website: Lammergeier full version I'm happy I made it despite the contest stuff up and result.. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Fiskebent	Posted - 2010.12.30 15:36:00 - [274] I would like to vote, but I don't have a Facebook account. Facebook has terms of use that I won't agree to. So in the future, please don't make access to Eve content depend on 3rd party websites.
Mike deVoid Federal Defence Union	Posted - 2010.12.30 16:54:00 - [275] Edited by: Mike deVoid on 30/12/2010 16:54:14 Came to add myself to the list of people not happy that facebook app required to vote. Quote: EVE Online Final Vote is requesting permission to do the following: Access my basic information Includes name, profile picture, gender, networks, user ID, list of friends, and any other information I've shared with everyone. Fck that sht, that's personal information you just don't require.
Elaron Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2010.12.30 17:00:00 - [276] Originally by: Fiskebent please don't make access to Eve content depend on 3rd party websites. This. I'm sorry, CCP, but this is a very shoddy move on your part.
Zhems Bund Gallente Expeditionary Resources Association	Posted - 2010.12.30 17:56:00 - [277] Edited by: Zhems Bund on 30/12/2010 17:59:12 Edited by: Zhems Bund on 30/12/2010 17:57:24 Well add me to the list as well, I will not use facebook (privacy, data protection etc etc). CCP, insisting on using it is a big mistake. I would request that in future we are offered an alternative. As I am not going to be able to vote my suggestion is, no matter which design wins, that Robin S's Interbus Courier is implemented. It's about time we had a real ship for that faction and IÆm sorry but the yellow shuttle doesn't count!!!
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.30 18:23:00 - [278] Obviously mine wasn't good enough to make the cut either, but I think it's mostly because I submitted it again after the first time didn't do anything.
vagy	Posted - 2010.12.30 18:27:00 - [279] iam not sure if my entry were uploaded at all(cant remember getting any email confirming anything).. so posting a link here - Peleus some fancy writings and eve logos might made some difference (: oh well, you cant win them all anyways
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.30 18:51:00 - [280] guys, maybe we should run our own contest? just a site with ALL works and in-game voting mechanism then mass petition for the winner(s) if that doesnt work - just collect some isk for the winner _______________________________________________
Daisuke Iyejasu	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:15:00 - [281] Ok that¦s my Way to the Protest to CCP. I can¦t to hold a view from CCP to go this follow ways. 1. i can¦t accepted to minimized the chance for varoius artist to go to the top20 why CCP submitted 3 works for one artist. although when are good works from this artists 2. to use fu*** Facebook to use for a voting, anyone knowing our data not secure on facebook sorry i can¦t this accepted now and i canceled my both eve-accs bye bye ccp
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:16:00 - [282] I like this idea. Winners can be paid with ISK/ships. What ingame voting mechanism would be appropriate?
Macmuelli Gallente Meltd0wn	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:31:00 - [283] Originally by: Kamilla Vermillion Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 30/12/2010 18:57:57 guys, maybe we should run our own contest? just a site with ALL works and in-game voting mechanism then mass petition for the winner(s) if that doesnt work - just collect some isk for the winner if that thought looks intresting to you - post X I ve done serveral contest s before, but they where low in response. Some used it to post not there own stuff, and simply copyed entries from other peoples. follow the link, and u will see entries. I will keep this contest running again, till i ve enough time. Contest I personal have no problem with the voting mechanism. btw "The vidar" tooks a hell have to to model it. It s not textured and much detailed. So if it looks bad or good It s a point of view. But i m pretty proud that it find s the way into the semi finalists. greetings mac eve since 2003 Do we need, Ice mining drones?
Goodwin Caldari Forsaken Empyreal The Ancients.	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:41:00 - [284] I am not sure if the in-game voting - like that for the CSM would make much of a difference to the Facebook version; other than it would not be public access. EVE account voting has its bonuses. But, like Facebook, people have multiple accounts in EVE too. I am betting my sister's dog is going to vote. So, technically, you would get multiple votes in either system. I am always paranoid some major corp/alliance will tilt the vote, but that is life. The idea of isk is good, but may not bring out as much interest unless it is a lot of isk. Likely would have to be billions. If that was the only award, I would not try for it. Personally, I would love to see this competition yearly - and as they hold more of them; the mechanism will improve. I know that there is talk about how hard it is to make game models from art devs (in a variety of game engines not just this one) - sorry art devs, secret is out. It took me all of 30 minutes to figure out how to build, texture, animate, script, and convert a model from Lightwave to Torque, and that was 10 years ago. I bet it has gotten easier. Either way; this hopefully is not the last contest. We all know what we want in the game, it just may take time to get it. If nothing else, at least they are letting us participate. This is not WOW. Member of the million AU Caracal Club
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:50:00 - [285] Edited by: Nakayme Caonis on 30/12/2010 19:56:17 It would be interesting to see a player run contest. But yes, I do feel as if I have been smacked across the face, several times, by someone who didn't bother to wash their hands after using the bathroom. I can understand that CCP works and tries to get stuff done, as talking about how you are trying to get it done, doesn't necessarily help get it done. That doesn't mean you shouldn't provide updates though. The main reasons behind these feelings that I have though is that CCP did not have a right to deny entries from appearing in the semi-finals, except for their qualifying rules - under 5MB, and looks like it would fit in EVE. IF there is a submission that was accepted by the site, which apparently did have some filters to ensure the 5MB thing, and IF the ship looks like it COULD fit some design concept in EVE, even if it is a new faction that doesn't even currently exist, then the entry should have been posted. THAT, after all, is what the point of voting for which ship you think is the best - originality and creativity certainly is NOT against the PUBLISHED rules here. In hindsight, I feel like I should have dropped my ship design on the spot and entered the J!NX design when it was announced, just because it wasn't run by CCP, aka, Better feedback and support, and at least my art would have been posted. It's not like I get the consolation prize for all the work I put into my starship design drawing, and all the fighting I did with my computer to get it to work, after all. From what I've read of the rules - those prizes only go to the people that CCP has accepted as submitting entries that meet the basic qualifying criteria - AKA, all of the entries displayed on the semi-finalists finalvote website - all of the 47 entries currently displayed. So, everyone who put the work in, applied, had a half-decent design that many people said would fit in EVE, don't even get an acknowledgment or a notice stating why they weren't accepted, or that they weren't excepted at all. They get to look through the entries, wondering where theirs is, and then after double checking it, have to wonder why theirs isn't there. Is it still loading? Are they still adding more entries? But why is the voting already open? After a day, it's apparent and the answer is clear. Those entrants just have to accept that they entered under the rules, and their effort was thrown into a trash can for some reason that they can't conceive under the current rules, and that despite they put the effort in, someone decided to disregard the rules and just throw people and their effort away anyway. I won't pretend to know the reason for this. I'm just disgruntled because I feel the contest's rules regarding the qualifiers were mishandled, to the point where CCP offered me candy and decided I couldn't have any even though I did what they said. That's something that's supposed to be reserved for in game conduct - not out of game, game related contests by CCP. Edit: All things considered, it might have been the rush to get things done via people that were less patient and more demanding that resulted in many entries being thrown out, that should not have been thrown out. So it's not completely CCP's fault. I still reserve the right to be disgruntled though.
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:51:00 - [286] Edited by: Billy Kidd on 30/12/2010 19:55:38 Nah, the problem with this contest is that most people didn't even know if they got in or not. All we have is the final 40, and for the rest of us who aren't in the top 40, we don't even know whether our entries were even received for judging. Even if CCP just posts a gallery of EVERYONE's entries just to prove that they got all our submissions, that'd be a helluva lot better than what they have now.
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2010.12.30 19:59:00 - [287] Originally by: Billy Kidd Edited by: Billy Kidd on 30/12/2010 19:55:38 Nah, the problem with this contest is that most people didn't even know if they got in or not. All we have is the final 40, and for the rest of us who aren't in the top 40, we don't even know whether our entries were even received for judging. Even if CCP just posts a gallery of EVERYONE's entries just to prove that they got all our submissions, that'd be a helluva lot better than what they have now. Those aren't the 47 final. Those are the 47 qualifiers. Now is the public vote, where the 47 qualifiers will be voted on by the public. After that is reduced to 20 finalists, CCP will have a vote on which ones are the winners. To date, there has been no voting involved to my knowledge, as the rules do not call for it. Anything else entered besides those 47 were not acceptable entries to the contest. They were just thrown out, like the Mach 5.
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:15:00 - [288] So most of the entries in the original gallery were not qualified to make it to this round? Wow.
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:34:00 - [289] Originally by: Billy Kidd So most of the entries in the original gallery were not qualified to make it to this round? Wow. the more amazing thing is that there things in the semi-finalists that should not even have a chance to win. CCP said that there would be 5 winners 1 grand price and 4 others, 1 for amar, caldari, gallente, and mimitar. so do an ore miner or sansha ship really belong in the semifinals
Hirana Yoshida Behavioral Affront	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:40:00 - [290] Facebook a requirement? Really? Top notch if you are going for the first prize in "The most brain-dead decision ever". Keep you "vote".
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:42:00 - [291] Well, I petitioned my missing entry (IMO, better than my entry which actually made it to the voting) and it looks like when CCP said "pre-screen" they really meant "pick the top 40-ish". I've sent a reply asking for a clear explanation of what standards were used in selecting which entries were posted to vote on. -----------
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:45:00 - [292] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Well, I petitioned my missing entry (IMO, better than my entry which actually made it to the voting) and it looks like when CCP said "pre-screen" they really meant "pick the top 40-ish". I've sent a reply asking for a clear explanation of what standards were used in selecting which entries were posted to vote on. i would like to know this also, does not even have and mesurements on the design clearly not meeting the requirements in the rules
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2010.12.30 20:51:00 - [293] Originally by: Guy Ferox ... i would like to know this also, this semi-finalist does not even have mesurements on the design clearly not meeting the requirements in the rules heh, are we having DeviantArt farse all over again? ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
Pythena	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:01:00 - [294] Great, I make it a point to remove facebook from my life and now I can't vote on a contest that has nothing to do with facebook.
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:02:00 - [295] Originally by: Guy Ferox Originally by: Billy Kidd So most of the entries in the original gallery were not qualified to make it to this round? Wow. the more amazing thing is that there things in the semi-finalists that should not even have a chance to win. CCP said that there would be 5 winners 1 grand price and 4 others, 1 for amar, caldari, gallente, and mimitar. so do an ore miner or sansha ship really belong in the semifinals Yes. Sansha can count as an Amarr Based Pirate Faction. Ore can count as a Gallente based Industrial Faction. Both can win the grand prize without requiring a faction.
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:04:00 - [296] this one, though being my favorite, does not have 6 diffrent prespectives of the same image he has folding wings that move in the skematics
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:16:00 - [297] Originally by: Nakayme Caonis Edited by: Nakayme Caonis on 30/12/2010 21:06:11 Originally by: Guy Ferox Originally by: Billy Kidd So most of the entries in the original gallery were not qualified to make it to this round? Wow. the more amazing thing is that there things in the semi-finalists that should not even have a chance to win. CCP said that there would be 5 winners 1 grand price and 4 others, 1 for amar, caldari, gallente, and mimitar. so do an ore miner or sansha ship really belong in the semifinals Yes. Sansha can count as an Amarr Based Pirate Faction, and their ships derive a good amount of basis from Amarr Origin. They use Beams and Armor much like the Amarr and Blood Raiders, have their home outside of Amarr space, and etc. Although you'd have to check their storyline history for more, they can easily be considered Amarr Deviants as a basis. ORE is a little more plain and clear. They can count as a Gallente based Industrial Faction, and even has the description: "A filthy rich corporation that disassociated itself from the Federation when it tried to encroach on the companies riches." Both can win the grand prize without requiring a faction. so you check out the marketplace, ore comes up under gallente ships?
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:20:00 - [298] Edited by: Nakayme Caonis on 30/12/2010 21:21:10 Originally by: Guy Ferox so you check out the marketplace, ore comes up under gallente ships? Yeps. Right next to Gallente Cream Products.
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:24:00 - [299] So this gets in But this one doesn't? WTF
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:32:00 - [300] Originally by: Billy Kidd So this gets in But this one doesn't? WTF One thing worth noting here is the problems with the submission page. For example, even though one of my entries is up for voting, it was only accepted after significantly cutting the file size (and making the text un-readable in the process). The original, a 2.5mb .png file (limit of 5mb) would not upload properly and was auto-rejected as not being in the proper format. Since the lammergeier image linked is a ~2mb file, I would not be surprised if it was never even seen by CCP. This is one of the things I've petitioned (about my second entry, another large file), so hopefully we'll get some answers soon. -----------
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:42:00 - [301] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: Billy Kidd So this gets in But this one doesn't? WTF One thing worth noting here is the problems with the submission page. For example, even though one of my entries is up for voting, it was only accepted after significantly cutting the file size (and making the text un-readable in the process). The original, a 2.5mb .png file (limit of 5mb) would not upload properly and was auto-rejected as not being in the proper format. Since the lammergeier image linked is a ~2mb file, I would not be surprised if it was never even seen by CCP. This is one of the things I've petitioned (about my second entry, another large file), so hopefully we'll get some answers soon. Which is why it would be good if CCP put up a gallery, or even listed all the files they received so that those of us who entered can get confirmation that we were even considered.
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:55:00 - [302] Originally by: Nakayme Caonis Anything else entered besides those 47 were not acceptable entries to the contest. They were just thrown out, like the Mach 5. I don't see what is wrong and not acceptable with my entries. 6 views, a colored rendering, the size. What else is needed ? I smell something fishy, especially as I got the confirmation page saying my submissions (large files <2Mb) were sent and thanking me for it. I am thinking to open a petition too to get some clarification.
Noro Aelkiota	Posted - 2010.12.30 21:56:00 - [303] FYI, the entries are mostly great imo, but I'm not participating in the contest. I just bought a years subscription to the game and I feel cheated. In botching this competition they have wasted countless hours of work I put into my entry, and valuable time I could have spent with my family over the holiday's, checking the competitions status. I know they received my entry, as well as the following polished ones as they put it an early version on the initial board they later took down, and the file, on deviant art has been posted in both petitions, and threads. If I could un-sub to EvE now, I would.
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.30 22:31:00 - [304] Edited by: Kamilla Vermillion on 30/12/2010 22:31:28 so, people intrested in our own competition can use this thread: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1440374 please do not use this thread for different reasons _______________________________________________
Burhtun	Posted - 2010.12.30 22:56:00 - [305] It is ridiculous to ask for CCP to explain why each and every image was accepted or not accepted into the semi finals. Just as it was ridiculous when people expected DA to do that. No competitions do that. It would take forever. There will always be disappointments when it comes to judging art. But contests are supposed to be fun, who cares if you totally bomb in terms of placing or votes. At least you have more experience now and maybe a portfolio piece. To say you wasted your time because you won't win anything is absurd. If drawing/painting/sculpting/creating is a waste of time to you then what the hell are you doing entering an art contest. Of course you'll loose if those things aren't in your heart. I do however agree that it would be nice to see everyone's entries. That is always a fun part of competitions, to just browse through everyone's work. Even if it was just a "finished images only" forum thread, where only final submissions are posted by those participating, and no BS banter to clog up the thread is allowed. Its how things are done in contests on conceptart.org, Dominance War, polycount, etc... And I also agree that bringing facebook into a competition is a bit of a bummer. I know why they did it, for exposure. But I would rather see the CCP art team have the only vote. They are in the best position to vote for designs that would work best for EVE. They did the second best thing though, by pre-screening the images AND having the final say. Also, CCP should get something from this too. And since they stated they can't use the winner as an in-game design, promotion/marketing is all that remains. It would be nice if they continue to do these contests later on down the road, with some changes, as a way to farm out concept art work and reward the winner with a freelance contract for their image. New designs for CCP, professional work experience for the contest winner. But with how much people complain about both contests I doubt they'll do another one. Oh well. Still looking forward to flying the "Tornado" one day. Minmatar FTW!
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2010.12.30 23:05:00 - [306] Originally by: Burhtun It is ridiculous to ask for CCP to explain why each and every image was accepted or not accepted into the semi finals. Just as it was ridiculous when people expected DA to do that. No competitions do that. It would take forever. The issue isn't about any specific entry, it's about three things: 1) A pattern of rejections that makes no sense at all. It's not like we're talking about entries which were clearly below the level of the ones which were put up for voting here, these were solid entries even if they weren't destined to win the final prize. The Lammergeier is the perfect example: a ship that was very popular with the community isn't even eligible to be voted on? 2) A general impression that the pre-screening phase would only be filtering out the junk (joke entries, stuff that isn't appropriate for EVE, entries that break the rules, etc) that was so common in the deviantart contest, not judging which ones were "good enough" to be voted on. 3) No clear indication of whether entries were received at all. This is a major problem, the submission page did not work properly (legal entries were auto-rejected for having an "invalid" format) and the gallery of submitted images was not updated frequently enough. The end result is people wondering (for good reasons) whether their entry was even seen by the judges at all. -----------
Kamilla Vermillion	Posted - 2010.12.30 23:10:00 - [307] i think we should simply organize our own fun, so that CCP could feel the difference _______________________________________________
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2010.12.30 23:39:00 - [308] Edited by: Nakayme Caonis on 30/12/2010 23:40:27 Originally by: Burhtun It is ridiculous to ask for CCP to explain why each and every image was accepted or not accepted into the semi finals. Just as it was ridiculous when people expected DA to do that. No competitions do that. It would take forever. "Due to the number of satisfactory entries to the Finalvote contest, we at CCP decided to slim down the number of presented entries based on additional levels of quality and originality. Ships may not have made it due to likedness to other existing ships, level of detail, or etc. We acknowledge that many more entries were entered that meet the requirements of the contest, and what we plan to do about these additional entries is THIS. Thank you to all who entered." Note: I don't work for CCP, and CCP didn't actually write that message. It would be great if they did though. It doesn't take long to provide a feedback note, that took me less than 5 minutes to type. Granted, I know English isn't everyone's main language, so typing and getting translation may take longer. But replying to every entry in a single manner isn't required. Once a post like that is made, people can wait until THIS is done, and then specify further if they have questions. This problem also isn't limited to this contest, or the last DA starship contest, which is probably why there is a significant amount of distaste for it. But as I also say, at least CCP tries to hold cool contests like this for us, which many game companies won't even attempt, most of which because they don't care. When I make these responses, it's not because I dislike CCP. I know they have a lot going on, most of which I will probably never know - for instance, the time it takes to make translations, and proper ones at that. But it IS something that has always been a downside to their contests, and should be improved upon. Next time, I'm just gonna have to have a better graphics card so I can detail every nook and cranny of my ship so that it can be on par with the rest of these entries, and maybe learn how to use my paint programs to make those kickass backgrounds. I wish I knew how to do that, lol. But yes. Next time one of these contests are held, if I decide to enter, I'm going to have but one goal. To collapse the EVE market. I am going to build a starship so Freaking COOL, that the supercapital market will crash, because Supercapital and Titan Pilots will abandon their starships, even if they have alts, to fly my ship. Just you mark my hamsters on that.
Burhtun	Posted - 2010.12.30 23:41:00 - [309] RE: Merin Ryskin, I expected them to do more than just filter out junk submissions so I wasn't taken by surprise there. I will agree with you however that this was to be a revote for the EVE community, and this aspect was lost and replaced by CCP and facebook. And I agree the submission system was weak. I also think there wasn't enough advertising for the start of the contest, not enough time for people to create new ships, and having it during the end of the year madness was unfortunate. Though I honestly wouldn't trust the EVE forum community to pick the best ships, and I think CCP-only is the best way to handle this sort of thing, I remember that we were promised to have a community vote so I now understand why you are unhappy.
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.30 23:44:00 - [310] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: Billy Kidd So this gets in But this one doesn't? WTF One thing worth noting here is the problems with the submission page. For example, even though one of my entries is up for voting, it was only accepted after significantly cutting the file size (and making the text un-readable in the process). The original, a 2.5mb .png file (limit of 5mb) would not upload properly and was auto-rejected as not being in the proper format. Since the lammergeier image linked is a ~2mb file, I would not be surprised if it was never even seen by CCP. This is one of the things I've petitioned (about my second entry, another large file), so hopefully we'll get some answers soon. I also sent a file that was below 1 MB .... I'm pretty f#%king ****ed off right now - CCP you failed to produce a what should have been a basic 'upload picture here and we'll display it' contest. DA stuffed up over what constitutes good design, but you CCP have definitely stuffed up with your handling of this competition and more so with your programming of the submission site - that doesn't say much for your programming abilities for EVE Online. I've got two accounts which I sorely want to cancel now (no you can't have my stuff) definitely will one... I don't know, its not like I play the game anymore - I log in, do skills, get out. Then go play TF2, BC2, L4D2 or any other game (boy there is too many cheap games on there!) on steam. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Burhtun	Posted - 2010.12.30 23:56:00 - [311] Oh, and I think it would be great if a player wants to organize a ship design contest for ISK or a ship or something. If someone organizes something I will do my best to participate even if the rewards are small. And it would be interesting to see if the contest is a success or a miserable failure. Also, anyone notice that the order of the ships on the voting page shuffle around sometimes? Are they ordered by number of votes? Because mine is steadily moving towards the bottom. Haha. Abandon ship, shes going down...
Billy Kidd	Posted - 2010.12.31 00:03:00 - [312] Originally by: Burhtun Oh, and I think it would be great if a player wants to organize a ship design contest for ISK or a ship or something. If someone organizes something I will do my best to participate even if the rewards are small. And it would be interesting to see if the contest is a success or a miserable failure. Also, anyone notice that the order of the ships on the voting page shuffle around sometimes? Are they ordered by number of votes? Because mine is steadily moving towards the bottom. Haha. Abandon ship, shes going down... http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1440374 A couple of us are going to try to get a player-run contest together.
Rusty Waynne Caldari Waynne Industries	Posted - 2010.12.31 00:33:00 - [313] Not a single one of those is even worth mentioning. They're all terrible. The 3 finalist in the first design a ship contest blows ALL of these out of the water by a long shot. sigh
Yaaarrvey	Posted - 2010.12.31 00:54:00 - [314] This is, sadly, turning out to be an even bigger mess than the Deviantart contest. Did CCP even receive all the entries? Would they even say if they didn't? (probably not). Seems like they're not following their own criteria on accepting submissions. On another note, I would have loved to have seen the full roster of submitted ships, if only just to look at. Facebook requirement was a majorly bad move. P.S. Love the Lammergeier.
Goodwin Caldari Forsaken Empyreal The Ancients.	Posted - 2010.12.31 02:52:00 - [315] Generally, I am not this big of an ass... ok that is a lie; I am. Here is the deal. The complaining is pointless. I hope to God, none of you are about to enter the working world, and if you are already in it you should know better. The entry you put in is your resume of sorts. Thousands of resumes a day go through a medium sized company and are trashed so fast they never get more than the first lines read. We are talking simple text docs, not complex images. This is common practice and you will never hear a thing from the company you applied to. This is simply how it works. If CCP decides as a corporate entity to trash entries, that is their call. They don't have to send you a letter or call you and explain. If you are not familiar with the "Art of EVE" book you should look it up. There are actually very specific design descriptions for each race, even down to how the curves in Amarr ships are supposed to start and terminate. As for the relentless complaining regarding the PNG files. Here is an original thought; try a different browser or convert the image to a different format. Is Facebook the best way to vote, no - we have established that. Further bashing of that will not change the outcome. I guess my ultimate point here is, the second contest was a gift, another opportunity. This contest entitles all of us to nothing other than the option to have the Art team see your work. Case and point. I hired an artist from the dA contest to do some ship model building side work for me. My life will continue after this and I will keep doing my own stuff; better for having tried than not. Member of the million AU Caracal Club
Zief	Posted - 2010.12.31 03:35:00 - [316] Every one of the finalists is beautiful imho. Every one of them would be perfectly at home gliding out of a station. My only question is WHY did the Echelon end up butt-ass ugly when regular PLAYERS come up with designs like this? I think every one of them deserves an award.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2010.12.31 03:51:00 - [317] Edited by: Merin Ryskin on 31/12/2010 03:51:16 Originally by: Goodwin As for the relentless complaining regarding the PNG files. Here is an original thought; try a different browser or convert the image to a different format. The point is that CCP explicitly stated that large .png files were a legal format for the entry, therefore it is perfectly reasonable to blame CCP if their system fails to accept a legal entry. If CCP was not capable of creating a submission system which could handle large .png files, then they should not have chosen format rules which made them legal. -----------
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2010.12.31 05:42:00 - [318] Originally by: Goodwin Generally, I am not this big of an ass... ok that is a lie; I am. Here is the deal. The complaining is pointless. I hope to God, none of you are about to enter the working world, and if you are already in it you should know better. The entry you put in is your resume of sorts. Thousands of resumes a day go through a medium sized company and are trashed so fast they never get more than the first lines read. We are talking simple text docs, not complex images. This is common practice and you will never hear a thing from the company you applied to. This is simply how it works. If CCP decides as a corporate entity to trash entries, that is their call. They don't have to send you a letter or call you and explain. If you are not familiar with the "Art of EVE" book you should look it up. There are actually very specific design descriptions for each race, even down to how the curves in Amarr ships are supposed to start and terminate. As for the relentless complaining regarding the PNG files. Here is an original thought; try a different browser or convert the image to a different format. Is Facebook the best way to vote, no - we have established that. Further bashing of that will not change the outcome. I guess my ultimate point here is, the second contest was a gift, another opportunity. This contest entitles all of us to nothing other than the option to have the Art team see your work. Case and point. I hired an artist from the dA contest to do some ship model building side work for me. My life will continue after this and I will keep doing my own stuff; better for having tried than not. True if you rock the boat, you usually risk your job or ability to get freelance work. Having done freelance 'favour' work for people I can't really comment on it since it wasn't for cash obviously. Though if we don't complain, I wouldn't have gotten a pay rise (after inquiring for the over due pay rise, the complaint from me came after the offered pay rise was presented (which was very low) - the complaint worked immediately to bump the pay rise to the correct amount since it was obviously a very insulting pay rise from a very tight arse management.. and they knew it. If you don't speak up - you don't get what you want or even deserve. It may break the illusion that everyone is happy. Don't let bosses walk over you. That said - there are more people out there more talented and definitely more hungry than you (and obviously me) - why should I waste my time with your complaints? YOUR FIRED :) But hey I didn't do the competition for a job, if someone liked my work enough to contact me for some freelance I would have been contacted already. I did it for the great feeling of people seeing my ship that I made, appreciating it & commenting on it... and also the chance for some prize money of course. I'll probably die poor but if I can make something one day that people can appreciate - that's something I hope I can do. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Theodore geisel Amarr Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2010.12.31 08:50:00 - [319] Anyone else having problems with the page auto-refreshing every half second? I cant get my vote in once I did the face-book login thing.
Lyn Farel Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2010.12.31 12:02:00 - [320] Originally by: Goodwin Thousands of resumes a day go through a medium sized company and are trashed so fast they never get more than the first lines read. We are talking simple text docs, not complex images. Exactly. We are talkng about an art contest, not a human resources recruitment process.
Lord Arronax Caldari Temnava Legion Species 69	Posted - 2010.12.31 14:21:00 - [321] What i see, facebook and many many people who even dont play game will vote for best ship, i think this is not right to loyal EVE players who are not on facebook and dont wanth to be on it.
Altara Caldire	Posted - 2010.12.31 18:07:00 - [322] Originally by: Elaron Originally by: Fiskebent please don't make access to Eve content depend on 3rd party websites. This. I'm sorry, CCP, but this is a very shoddy move on your part. I would have voted but I refuse to get involved with the cybercancer that is Facebook.
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2011.01.01 01:25:00 - [323] Does anyone have a screen shot of the rules that were displayed on the front page of the contest? I'm having a bit of a flamefest on general CCP Starship contest... CCP couldn't run a tap of water if it tried Anyway, I seem to remember CCP kept certain rules from the first contest (things like displaying ship length, don't display EVE Online logos etc) but that is no long displayed on the first page anymore and the link to the rules doesn't have it (anymore or it wasn't in the official rules??) I'm too annoyed and aggro right now - its amazing, I haven't been this annoyed since I lost my first ship ha. I'll be leaving soon enough. --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2011.01.01 02:42:00 - [324] I think it would do some of us well to remember why we play EVE. For most of us, it isn't to compete in contests like this. Granted, these sorts of contests ARE FUN, and I'd like to take a moment to thank CCP for throwing them for us, via their own time and effort and through forming partnerships with companies such as J!NX. That doesn't mean that I don't feel disgruntled. And I know complaining about these things WON'T change the outcome of this contest. Yet, the problems in this contest aren't isolated to this contest (After playing EVE for 3 years, I've seen my small share of EVE contests), and do disrupt the honest efforts of EVE players. That's why I and several of my other capsuleers (although not all of us) speak up about it, because we'd honestly like to see these problems taken into account, and better handled in the upcoming contest. Again, that's not because we hate CCP, because we don't. Are you disgruntled at CCP? Put yourself in their shoes - all the time frames, having to help other people with their contests, in game and out of game (ADIDA will be at the Trade Event on the 9th of January). Think about it - they might have an event committee, help promote each others events, and etc. Sometimes, you might get stuck on the raw end of no one supporting yours, or at least, not with as much help as you need. So for me, a lot of the problems I see can be resolved in the planning stages; 1. Give more time for the contest (which would let more people enter, especially when the contest is held during the last 2-3 weeks of a college semester, and the deadline is the 2nd day of my Country's typical Final Exam Week) 2. Give yourself a grace period between publishing entries, so that people that have entries that may need minor adjustments to fit the rules, can be addressed. 3. Answer Emails sent about the contest. Maybe within a few days, would help. 4. Make a rule about patience, and update your thread about progress, so that people know what to be patient about. I mean, EVE is a game. People pay money to play EVE. This is a contest relating to EVE, for EVE, for those players. It's a nice gesture (and again, thank you), but that's still who it is for. So having a good community involvement that draws out the contest a little more is much more important than having a quick, decisive contest that sticks to all the deadlines. And yes, I'd rather risk losing placing so that myself and other people can make that late entry with a few changes to better fit the rules, if and when need be. And if it is in the rules that CCP holds the right to do that, then there shouldn't be any legal concerns or rule concerns, which I know has to be of concern since CCP admins work for a company. I'm not trying to be staunchy or anything, but I honestly feel these things would help the contest run a lot smoother for everyone involved. What do you guys think? PS: Happy New Years. May the Sansha eat all your souls but leave your loot for me. PSS: Please don't self destruct as the Sansha board your vessels. That'd destroy all the loots.
Smilingmonk	Posted - 2011.01.01 05:30:00 - [325] In my opinion, CCP needs to allow for voting for these ships to be done on the EVE-online website in some form. Many players do not have a Facebook account to "like" a design and by shamelessly getting in bed with Facebook and their rampant anti-privacy/data mining activities this precludes many EVE players from being able to vote if they do not want to be forced to join Facebook. If this unfortunate choice of voting method cannot be changed for this contest, then I strongly urge CCP to not use Facebook for voting on things in the future. This is EVE, not Facebook, and votes should be taken and tallied on the EVE-online website for all players to use since we already have accounts here. Monk
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2011.01.01 09:13:00 - [326] Originally by: Ivan Tesla Does anyone have a screen shot of the rules that were displayed on the front page of the contest? I'm having a bit of a flamefest on general CCP Starship contest... CCP couldn't run a tap of water if it tried Anyway, I seem to remember CCP kept certain rules from the first contest (things like displaying ship length, don't display EVE Online logos etc) but that is no long displayed on the first page anymore and the link to the rules doesn't have it (anymore or it wasn't in the official rules??) I'm too annoyed and aggro right now - its amazing, I haven't been this annoyed since I lost my first ship ha. I'll be leaving soon enough. this has the rules on it
Shintai Gallente Arx Io Orbital Factories Arx Io	Posted - 2011.01.01 10:24:00 - [327] Originally by: CCP Adida How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism. And what about all us that aint lame enough to use facebook? Whats suddenly wrong with the usual voting system? Will the CSM also change to this crap? Or just other game changing votings to **** of more people? -------------------------------------- Abstraction and Transcendence: Nature, Shintai, and Geometry
GeeShizzle MacCloud Caldari	Posted - 2011.01.01 16:02:00 - [328] right okay.... 1) as much as you might have thought this was a bonafide way of possibly being hired by ccp for designing artwork and new ships etc.... its not going to happen! this is a community and marketing strategy. the fact you're voting on facebook clearly shows that CCP wants to use this competition as a modern method for a marketing and advertising campaign. yes it partially alienates core Eve players and i understand that, but CCP feel the need for whatever reason to get EVE more facetime to more people. why do u think CCP gave good money to get the front cover of a PC gaming magazine? 2) sooo many emorage posts on here from people complaining about either their stuff not making it or others making it without sticking extremely rigidly to the rules of submission are just absured! if your entry doesnt fit into one of the 4 races stylistic details and forms then unless ur going to show them where itd fit in the game like this one that got through - The Interbus another thing is one of the rules stipulates work must be original and cant have been submitted to any other contest of the same type. and yes that means the deviantart one... so yahh complain all you want about your resubb'd deviantart/ccp entry but CCP are seeing this as a separate contest! otherwise im pretty sure the Tornado matari entry would have been resubb'd and in the semi's too! 3) some of the emorage directed to entrys that made it with "views that arent of the same model"... yes they are! and wtf cant u tell whats being showed in the differing views?? most of the time theres text to tell you why the views differ ffs! and tbh 3d artists really do appreciate that you're showing additional semi hidden geometric information that would be difficult to see in the typical 6 views so calm the f*** down and be rational, and if u cant do that, then take it like a man and dont flame! CSM Prop 1 CSM Prop 2
Jagga Spikes Minmatar Spikes Chop Shop	Posted - 2011.01.01 17:57:00 - [329] Edited by: Jagga Spikes on 01/01/2011 17:57:55 you have some dubious points. first, there were ships in submission phase worthy of being selected, but aren't there anymore. look for Stahvogel. so, why is good art being omitted if this is marketing effort? reason can't be because it was in previous contest, as some ships that can be voted for now, have been in DeviantArt contest. even tho rules do in fact state that ship should have been made for this contest. originality can be discussed. it should be easy to spot Myrmidion and Thorax in the semi-finalists. as for "4 races stylisitc details", there is a sleeper cruiser. imo, most people have been quite calm, except for facebook voting issue. so, if you want people to be calmer, don't come with oil. edit: clarified ________________________________ : Forum Bore 'Em : Foamy The Squirrel - [jedi handwave] "There is no spoon."
Archemedes Killroy	Posted - 2011.01.02 00:55:00 - [330] I have to strongly echo the sentiments of excluding all non-Failbook users. It makes those of us players who can't/won't sign up or use Failbook connect. What aren't our credit card numbers and payment services as good as the players on Facebook? I understand when something like J!nx is hosting a contest that you have to be registered with them, but why do I have to sign up and use a totally foreign service to vote on a contest you are putting on? I know someone else has probably ranted on this already, but this thread passed TL,DR several pages back.
Ivan Tesla Minmatar Sebiestor tribe	Posted - 2011.01.02 01:33:00 - [331] Edited by: Ivan Tesla on 02/01/2011 01:45:18 Originally by: Guy Ferox Originally by: Ivan Tesla Does anyone have a screen shot of the rules that were displayed on the front page of the contest? I'm having a bit of a flamefest on general CCP Starship contest... CCP couldn't run a tap of water if it tried Anyway, I seem to remember CCP kept certain rules from the first contest (things like displaying ship length, don't display EVE Online logos etc) but that is no long displayed on the first page anymore and the link to the rules doesn't have it (anymore or it wasn't in the official rules??) I'm too annoyed and aggro right now - its amazing, I haven't been this annoyed since I lost my first ship ha. I'll be leaving soon enough. this has the rules on it Thanks for that, though I won't be making this an issue anymore, I've annoyed too many people. It wasn't my intention to annoy other players. It was my intention to get an actual reply from CCP since I wasn't getting it privately.. so I end this now and say to those that are annoyed with me - I hope you don't get an issue that is ignored by CCP because bringing up on the forums probably wont help you at all. o/ --------------------------------------------- Francis Wolcott: "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2011.01.02 02:08:00 - [332] Edited by: Nakayme Caonis on 02/01/2011 02:15:47 Regarding Facebook, I believe one of the main reasons for the anti-facebook sentiment in this contest is because it was not announced. There was no official announcement regarding facebook as a partner, and the only statement that really included facebook was that "How will I vote on the semi-finalists after the 21st? The Facebook ôLikeö button will be the vote mechanism." which is from Adida's post at the beginning of this thread. People like me that don't use facebook can interpret that several ways, such as that facebook has contents, and has a button that is used to vote in similar contests. Such, a button similar to the button used in facebook (a facebook-like button) would be used to vote in these ends. As I have stated before, several things about this contest were not clear in the rules, and still have never been clarified. Even during the submission period, it became difficult to get emails back - if you even got a response at all. I can understand why CCP would make partnerships to promote EVE, but without looking at facebook, I do not even know if this is a facebook-partnered contest or project. Lastly, people like me will never get facebook pages because they are threats to our RL job security. Human Resources can and do check facebook profiles in my line of work, and people have been FIRED for having a picture of them at a party in decent dress, holding up a cup of beer and talking to people. ...That's right. And to do THIS, I'd have to either choose between making a false facebook account (which can easily be used to make false votes), or a true one, and further risk my job security by linking myself to a video game (and you thought a cup of beer was bad). Yes. Sometimes the quest to maintain a company's image can go a bit too far, and yes, very few fields hold that to level of stringency. Sadly, mine is one. For everyone ELSE, I believe most of the facebook arguments can be summarized into one link: Southpark: You Have 0 Friends. Warning: Foul and inappropriate language used in everyday life WILL be present. Do not watch if you or those around you find swear words offensive. Congratulations to the people who did get in. Goodluck on the vote. I hope the contest will be better run next time. And please, do NOT make me a facebook page.
Garwill	Posted - 2011.01.02 07:04:00 - [333] So the winner of this 'contest' isn't going to be included in Eve... and any facebook person can vote on it (non-Eve player), and the thousands of Eve players who won't use face book can not vote... wow. How fail can you get? I was at the point of giving CCP kudos for recent actions, but this just sent it spiraling backwards again. Also the lack of any reaction in this thread by CCP is insulting. VERY.
Merin Ryskin Peregrine Industries	Posted - 2011.01.02 09:23:00 - [334] Originally by: Nakayme Caonis People like me that don't use facebook can interpret that several ways, such as that facebook has contents, and has a button that is used to vote in similar contests. Such, a button similar to the button used in facebook (a facebook-like button) would be used to vote in these ends. Perhaps if you can't tell the difference between "the facebook like button" and "the facebook 'like' button", you should spend a little more time thinking about what you read? There is absolutely no ambiguity at all in that sentence, it was clear right from the beginning that facebook would be used for the voting process. (Notice the very important quote marks around "like".) Quote: And to do THIS, I'd have to either choose between making a false facebook account (which can easily be used to make false votes) And hey, you found the obvious solution! I guess I should give you more credit than the rest of the "BUT MY PRIVACY!!!!!!" whiners. I do feel sorry for you though, if you could seriously get in trouble if your employers discovered that you play a video game. Perhaps it's time for a new job? -----------
Death Stab	Posted - 2011.01.02 14:32:00 - [335] WTF? Facebook? I just decided to vote and there was only one option - **ing facebook! Do I play FACEBOOK or Eve Online? Your next idea will be collecting Coca-cola bottle lids to undock? Disgrace..**
Nakayme Caonis	Posted - 2011.01.02 17:36:00 - [336] Originally by: Merin Ryskin Originally by: Nakayme Caonis People like me that don't use facebook can interpret that several ways, such as that facebook has contents, and has a button that is used to vote in similar contests. Such, a button similar to the button used in facebook (a facebook-like button) would be used to vote in these ends. Perhaps if you can't tell the difference between "the facebook like button" and "the facebook 'like' button", you should spend a little more time thinking about what you read? There is absolutely no ambiguity at all in that sentence, it was clear right from the beginning that facebook would be used for the voting process. (Notice the very important quote marks around "like".) Quite comparatively, if you don't use facebook, you wouldn't know that facebook had a "like" button, so the only clear meaning from the context would be that there is a button similar to a facebook button option for voting. Unless you're psychic or go scavenging over facebook to see what button exactly Adida would have been talking about. BTW, it's not that I CARE About it being on facebook. I really, really don't, actually. I am commenting to make a point so that maybe the next contest will be done a little bit better. Originally by: Merin Ryskin Quote: And to do THIS, I'd have to either choose between making a false facebook account (which can easily be used to make false votes) And hey, you found the obvious solution! I guess I should give you more credit than the rest of the "BUT MY PRIVACY!!!!!!" whiners. I do feel sorry for you though, if you could seriously get in trouble if your employers discovered that you play a video game. Perhaps it's time for a new job? Good, decent paying jobs are priceless. Be happy I am in my field. There are a lot of people in it that shouldn't be, and you'll notice the difference 10-20 years down the line from now. When people in my field make mistakes, it effects everyone, and everyone has to start dealing with fatal accidents that can easily involve hundreds and thousands of people. That's one of the reasons I want to leave the United States, but New Generation American Engineers have already made such bad impact internationally that it has become slightly harder to do. Not to mention that companies based outside of the US are a bit more 'chill' on what I do in my free time. [I think drinking beer and posting it on facebook might be a requirement in Europe.] And Germany? I want THEIR holiday schedule! A month in days off... It's like a cheesecake of free time. PS: CCP, how does Iceland view American Engineers?
Anne Archer	Posted - 2011.01.05 05:50:00 - [337] Seriously CCP get stuffed with this facebook ONLY garbage. I will not use facebook either, having been a victim of identity theft I found how EASY it is once someone back tracks your family history to circumvent most checks to access your data!.
Burtzum	Posted - 2011.01.09 01:43:00 - [338] Huh. I ended up voting for all Minmatar ships. I voted for the Serval, Whirlwind, and Freeborn. On one hand they're all very similar to ships that are already in the game. The Serval looks like the Scythe, the Whirlwind and Freeborn look like the Tempest. But I thought they would make cool replacements for the T2 ships. The recolored hulls we have now for T2s are not as interesting as these modified designs would be. Also, why do the T2 re-skins have to always be so gaudy? Thats how I rationalized my choices anyway. They won't put the winner from this contest into the game so it doesn't really matter in the end. At first I was going to vote for more original designs but I just don't feel any of them fit EVE very well. Some come close. Then again, some ships in EVE don't seem to fit. Like the Augoror. But I guess there are only so many ways you can reshape the Amarr talon/beak shape. Eventually you run out of cool ways to use it and end up with the goofy chicken-headed ships that are the Amarr Battlecruisers. The "Horus" definitely looks like a Caldari design, but it looks like a Caldari space station. Doesn't look like a fun sexy ship to fly. The "Caldari Battleship" by David L is simple yet imposing, and resembles the Caldari freighter, just rotated 90 degrees. I think the skyscraper-looking thing in the middle on the front-view is an interesting idea. Skyscrapers fit the personality of the corporate douches that are the Caldari. That 'walls of glass' look might work well in some sections of Caldari ships. Also I view Caldari as an extreme version of USA and I believe USA was the first to go nuts with building skyscrapers. "Vanagandr" also looks Caldari and has an interesting front section. But the back lets it down and overall it looks too much like a jet. Most of the entries are great in terms of level of polish, presentation, technical skill. Just not wowed by the actual designs, particularly with regards to fitting into EVE. If the 'Tornado' from the first contest was in there it would still be my first pick.
Culsotu2 Der Verfluchte Engel	Posted - 2011.01.09 11:14:00 - [339] I voted for the Untitled by Christophe A ..because it is different from everything else and looks like a really hard nut to pop.
Burtzum	Posted - 2011.01.09 23:42:00 - [340] Originally by: Culsotu2 I voted for the Untitled by Christophe A ..because it is different from everything else and looks like a really hard nut to pop. That one reminded me of 1930s and 40s hotrods.
SFM Hobb3s Up2-NoGood Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.01.13 15:50:00 - [341] The contest site has been updated to show that the voting has now ended. Best of luck to all that entered :)
General Storage	Posted - 2011.01.26 10:35:00 - [342] Privacy settings > Friends Only
Saul Dhampir Caldari Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction	Posted - 2011.01.29 14:11:00 - [343] Ever so slightly late, but will throw this up anyway, given all things incursions. I wanted to do Sanshas Destroyers, Bruisers and Carriers. This was the Banshee, a destrioyer design: Banshee - Sanshas Destroyer
Goodwin Caldari Forsaken Empyreal The Ancients.	Posted - 2011.01.31 23:04:00 - [344] Hey, just curious CCP... You planning on making a call here? Pretty much anyone could win, I don't care which; but the suspense is killing me. Thanks. Member of the million AU Caracal Club
Osire Gallanus	Posted - 2011.02.03 04:42:00 - [345] Seriously, it felt like the voting ended like 2 months ago. If you're waiting to release the results for whatever reason...don't. It doesn't take long to not count something since the voting process did that for you already. Just look at what's in the #1 spot and let us know!
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2011.02.04 22:31:00 - [346] Originally by: Goodwin Hey, just curious CCP... You planning on making a call here? Pretty much anyone could win, I don't care which; but the suspense is killing me. Thanks. dont worry they screwed up the begging date. they have screwed up the winner date
Justass	Posted - 2011.02.11 21:29:00 - [347] No way am I going to vote if I have to use Facebook.
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2011.02.13 06:14:00 - [348] so its febuary 13 and the winning ship is...
JcJet Caldari Pretenders Inc W-Space	Posted - 2011.02.15 10:04:00 - [349] Edited by: JcJet on 15/02/2011 10:07:21 I didn't know how it is now, but i'm sure it'll be some junk again... They don't have a balls to put in game something flaweless and f*****g awesome, which looks cool in all angles, something like Vaygr battlecruiser :) http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/ZahrDalsk/Vaygr-Battlecruiser-1.jpg Or, well, it'll be much vertical and more pieces where is shouldn't be any :) Just jokin' :) i'm looking forward to new ships, especially caldari ones... :) ---
Goodwin Caldari Forsaken Empyreal The Ancients.	Posted - 2011.02.15 18:36:00 - [350] Originally by: JcJet Edited by: JcJet on 15/02/2011 10:07:21 I didn't know how it is now, but i'm sure it'll be some junk again... They don't have a balls to put in game something flaweless and f*****g awesome, which looks cool in all angles, something like Vaygr battlecruiser :) That would indeed be sexy. CCP Did you forget about this thread?... Member of the million AU Caracal Club
Rone2	Posted - 2011.02.16 14:22:00 - [351] Im wondering the same thing, who won this?
Azureite Amarr Special Forces Operation Detachment Delta The 0rphanage	Posted - 2011.02.21 03:55:00 - [352] Originally by: Rone2 Im wondering the same thing, who won this? The world may never know...
onyu	Posted - 2011.02.22 19:10:00 - [353] Edited by: onyu on 22/02/2011 19:16:20 Edited by: onyu on 22/02/2011 19:14:25 Edited by: onyu on 22/02/2011 19:12:26 Edited by: onyu on 22/02/2011 19:11:43 Originally by: egg timer Considering that most existing ships in Eve look like they were designed by a ****ed rhesus monkey, I don't really see why we should expect anything different to win; CCP will just "prejudge" out anything that doesn't look equally absurd. Back in 2003, I pretty much agreed with you, especially on all those grotesquely asymmetrical designs that couldn't fly a straight line in space if they wanted to. But since 2003, they've come up with a fair number of more probable looking ships, and textures have improved too. Even the most ridiculous ships, that looked like the modeler simply stuck together parts of a 3D set of crude hardware store components (raven, scorpion) have been replaced with somewhat improved (raven) or much improved (scorpion) models by now. Many problems still remain: Unlike the designers of the homeworld ships, that put great thought into proper scale and truly managed to express every ships purpose in its hull design, EVE ships are still a weird mishmash of things that make no sense: 1) scaling inconsistencies 2) thrusters that fire into components behind them, like wings or antennae (mammoth, nighthawk, others) 3) asymetric thruster arrangements that would result in involuntary twirling flight paths 4) no sense of where the bridge might be in many ships. 5) ships that look like hand tools or deformed chickens. (Rupture, Prophecy) 6) basically no ships cool enough that you'd want just for their design (failure to learn from car and yacht design on how to make a vehicle desirable through good design) 7) failure to display advertising of Ishukone and other NPC corps for their ships on space Televisions. (Quafe commercials get old) 8) ships with spinach growing all over the hull (Ishtar) 9) almost no black ships, the few that looked great in black (khanid omen, Nighthawk, Kronos, Navy Scorpion) were either npc only versions, or needlessly ended up getting recolored to trashcan-gray or something else way less cool. Since CCP has become more international, I have to give credit for the improvements. And since the tier 2 battle cruisers got released, no more really horrific blunders have been made. Still, there's room for further improvement. Especially with Incarna in mind, ships could use at least a proper bridge (some ships have, and some don't) and some scaling work, that could probably be handled just by texture alteration. And give us back some black ships! Black Ops ships sure could stand to be black, especially the Amarr one... I'll offer 2 plex for making the Khanid Navy Omen available to players in some form!** ... Madness is taking its toll, please have exact change ready.
yoni	Posted - 2011.02.22 19:21:00 - [354] Originally by: Garwill So the winner of this 'contest' isn't going to be included in Eve... and any facebook person can vote on it (non-Eve player), and the thousands of Eve players who won't use face book can not vote... wow. How fail can you get? I was at the point of giving CCP kudos for recent actions, but this just sent it spiraling backwards again. Also the lack of any reaction in this thread by CCP is insulting. VERY. yeah thats horribly fail.. Facebook is one of the slimiest companies on earth, right behind Monsanto for all I know. Don't support them, don't make us go there for anything, and especially don't make eve players sign up to that morass YUCK! CCP, how could you?
Caly Lloyd	Posted - 2011.02.22 20:22:00 - [355] Wait, they still havent announced the winner? Why have a contest then? And not putting the winning ship in the game is serious false advertising. Put the winning ship in the game - it's what we all expected you to do.
Guy Ferox	Posted - 2011.02.22 21:21:00 - [356] Originally by: Caly Lloyd Wait, they still havent announced the winner? Why have a contest then? And not putting the winning ship in the game is serious false advertising. Put the winning ship in the game - it's what we all expected you to do. i expect them to wait until everyone forgets about this and then no one will care about the crappy ships they pick
JcJet Caldari Pretenders Inc W-Space	Posted - 2011.02.23 14:09:00 - [357] Edited by: JcJet on 23/02/2011 14:09:38 Originally by: onyu 1) scaling inconsistencies 2) thrusters that fire into components behind them, like wings or antennae (mammoth, nighthawk, others) 3) asymetric thruster arrangements that would result in involuntary twirling flight paths 4) no sense of where the bridge might be in many ships. 5) ships that look like hand tools or deformed chickens. (Rupture, Prophecy) 6) basically no ships cool enough that you'd want just for their design (failure to learn from car and yacht design on how to make a vehicle desirable through good design) 7) failure to display advertising of Ishukone and other NPC corps for their ships on space Televisions. (Quafe commercials get old) 8) ships with spinach growing all over the hull (Ishtar) 9) almost no black ships, the few that looked great in black (khanid omen, Nighthawk, Kronos, Navy Scorpion) were either npc only versions, or needlessly ended up getting recolored to trashcan-gray or something else way less cool. 10) Missiles are flying from a center of hull. It's actually very stupid, if you look to any space game. Well, in homeworld, again, missiles are launcher from ship's hull(model) too, but from missile bays, which just a part of a model. Even on vaygr battlecruisers, those missile bays on top is static, but it's looks fine. Is that really was too hard to do? http://www.xfire.com/video/41138b/ Well, it's was fine on beta, but it's been a years now... ---
Dianne	Posted - 2011.02.23 15:05:00 - [358] Some of those contest pics could be desktop backgrounds actually. I like most of em, what I dont like is that theres obviously only 2 minmatar ships worth mentioning, but tons of amarr flying cans. And thats no herecy, go away you puny churchguys :)
AJ Goodwin	Posted - 2011.02.23 18:19:00 - [359] I am going to stab a guess at when they will announce this. Fan Fest in a few weeks. Would be nice if it was before. That is probably the best time. Sooner would be better though.
SFM Hobb3s Vanguard Frontiers Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.02.24 21:24:00 - [360] Well, regardless if its gonna be revealed there, I would assume nothing, because nothing has been said. In the meantime, I suggest we just keep bumping this thread, along with the other one in the discussion forum.
Vertisce Soritenshi O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.03.16 19:12:00 - [361] I find it rather odd that it is now March 16th and we still have yet to get an answer on who the winner is. Is counting votes really that hard of a thing to do? NO BOOBIES LEFT BEHIND!
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2011.03.16 22:16:00 - [362] It will be anounced at Fan fest they are not saying anything so if the ships do not get done expections will not be broken.
Caly Lloyd	Posted - 2011.03.19 10:45:00 - [363] Wasnt the point of the competition to have users create new ships and then put the winner in the game. They said that was the prize.... So what I'm gathering is they lied?
Goodwin Caldari Forsaken Empyreal The Ancients.	Posted - 2011.03.21 16:16:00 - [364] That is close to the expectation. The small print in the original posting for this contest stated that the winner would get into the game, but may not get in right away. I don't see that as a good reason to hold off on the announcement of the winner/s. Again not sure what the hold off is. If they are going to announce at Fest, why not just have a Dev get on here and say that, should not be too hard to do. Also announcing the winner should not be contingent in the ship showing up in the game right away. So, Devs, get on here and say something on the status of this - that is all we really want. Member of the million AU Caracal Club
Bhattran	Posted - 2011.03.21 22:19:00 - [365] I guess there's still time for me to go to school for graphic design, get hooked up with some academic freebies, learn to use 3d modeling programs, graduate, get a job and make a few ships to enter then right? --WIS/Incarna/Ambulation where microtransactions come to play, and uh bars.--
Goodwin Caldari Forsaken Empyreal The Ancients.	Posted - 2011.03.21 23:21:00 - [366] Originally by: Bhattran I guess there's still time for me to go to school for graphic design, get hooked up with some academic freebies, learn to use 3d modeling programs, graduate, get a job and make a few ships to enter then right? Or get an aerospace engineering degree, invent warp drive, and fabricate the entire ship on your own after you become a trillionaire. Which actually might be more fun than playing internet spaceships. Member of the million AU Caracal Club
IAmurDaddyBee	Posted - 2011.03.22 02:16:00 - [367] Edited by: IAmurDaddyBee on 22/03/2011 02:16:14
Glyken Touchon Independent Alchemists	Posted - 2011.03.27 15:27:00 - [368] Originally by: CCP Adida The ôCreate A Starshipö contest has returned and you have the final vote. Submissions will be accepted at the official contest page through December 21, 2010 and voting will start on December 22, 2010 and end on January 8, 2010. Two and a half months after the contest closed and still no word of the winners? As there were cash prizes promised, this could go very badly PR wise...
Melisandra Palenis	Posted - 2011.03.29 06:04:00 - [369] So it wasn't announced at fanfest 2011 either. Very poor form CCP I must say. Run a competition then never tell us who the winner is..... what happened to excellence?
Destination SkillQueue Are We There Yet	Posted - 2011.03.29 11:20:00 - [370] Originally by: Melisandra Palenis So it wasn't announced at fanfest 2011 either. Very poor form CCP I must say. Run a competition then never tell us who the winner is..... what happened to excellence? Even a bad decision would have been better than dragging this thing out month after month. Seriously what is the reason for delaying giving out the results or haven't you yet even decided who the winner is? Even at worst all it would have taken is for the judges to spend one evening together with a bottle of booze and just make a decision about who the winner is going to be. Or alternatively maybe lock them in a small rat filled room with no windows and only a small light source and then tell them you will let them out only after they have agreed on the winner.
General Storage	Posted - 2011.03.29 11:36:00 - [371] I think I speak for everyone here when I say 'cuummmooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnn...'
Iok Sototh Aliastra	Posted - 2011.03.29 11:49:00 - [372] Caught up to this one late... but WOW, stunning efforts, some truly amazing artwork there. I'm nevious of your talent guys, and applaud it! And come on CCP, who won?
AJ Goodwin	Posted - 2011.04.11 17:32:00 - [373] I have a better chance of getting married before you get this judged and posted. Literally, unless you are planning on having this decided before May 21st - would be nice.
LordElfa Gallente Tri Corp	Posted - 2011.04.11 17:42:00 - [374] What's really interesting here is that not one of CCP's staff has the good graces to give us any information as to the delay on this contests results. They've obviously seen the posts on here, so what's the excuse? ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.12 10:14:00 - [375] Hello everyone, I am so sorry about the delay in responding to this thread. I am currently trying to get in touch with the right people internally to find out when we can announce the winner. I hope that will be sometime in the next few days, even possibly today. Navigator Lead Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online

Angelica Faust	Posted - 2011.04.12 11:35:00 - [376] Pitchforks for sale!! Pitchforck and Torches!! Everything the Angry Mob needs for a proper roit you can get right here! Come one, Come ALL!
Gustav Knuttsen	Posted - 2011.04.12 12:06:00 - [377] Originally by: CCP Navigator Hello everyone, I am so sorry about the delay in responding to this thread. I am currently trying to get in touch with the right people internally to find out when we can announce the winner. I hope that will be sometime in the next few days, even possibly today. Men ... You are funny LOL... 12.04.2011.. What is wrong with your Company ? Best known as CCP ? Geee are you working there ? or just cheap chatting ? Sorry but Pathetic ... And dont get this personal its not about you but company in general ...
gonesideways	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:38:00 - [378] Yeah kinda glad i didnt bother submitting Designing stuff is a real effort sometimes and although I think I coulda done well, any wait time for hearing back is exactly why some people never put forward an entry. Shame, probably other good contenders never to be seen too but gl to those that have submitted, hope you find out inside this year :/
gonesideways	Posted - 2011.04.12 13:44:00 - [379] Originally by: Deviana Sevidon If the contest means I need a facebook account then I will pass, thanks. oh, and this
LordElfa Tri Corp	Posted - 2011.04.12 22:37:00 - [380] Originally by: CCP Navigator Hello everyone, I am so sorry about the delay in responding to this thread. I am currently trying to get in touch with the right people internally to find out when we can announce the winner. I hope that will be sometime in the next few days, even possibly today. Thanks Navigator, I had a feeling that contacting you guys would help get this answered. See, send a petition to CCP and they shall answer. òòòòòòò CSM6-Hated by fools for who they are; Loved by the knowledgeable for what they will do.
Mad Dok	Posted - 2011.04.14 19:33:00 - [381] The link you get at login that is supposed to announce the winners is bad. Or well all you can do is go here
LordElfa Tri Corp	Posted - 2011.04.14 21:08:00 - [382] This link is good. Now everyone can thank me for having the good sense to contact CCP about this a few days ago and get it done. òòòòòòò CSM6-Hated by fools for who they are; Loved by the knowledgeable for what they will do.
Anuiruson Bennington	Posted - 2011.04.15 02:15:00 - [383] Congradulation's to everyone that made it to the final round. I see real talent and vision in the designs that made it....But there is one design that alway's wins and that ssstarship design is Fate. How slowly and methodical FATE watches you from the depth's of space, from the dark reaches of your mind. It watches you as you gloat and exhault yourself with your victories. Fate watches as you build your empire around your design...grinning ever so slightly.As Fate would have it and when Fate is ready Fate then gives birth to a new design as she slowly curls around you crushing your design.The new and bold design brought forward to the New Eden Citizen,your heart crushed under the weight of their need. FATE...the only starship design that can never be beaten...Remember that designer. ....F...a..t.e
Vertisce Soritenshi O.W.N. Corp OWN Alliance	Posted - 2011.04.15 05:28:00 - [384] So...the winner is finally announced today...THROUGH FACEBOOK! I don't see the announcement here...where it should be. I gotta say though...the winner has to be one of the blandest ships out of all of them. Needless to say it did not get my vote...and I may sound like an ass for saying it but I don't think CCP even counted votes at all. They threw something up to make us think our votes counted when in reality it was just all for show. They had a winner picked from day one. That or they got really lazy about it and just picked one randomly out of a hat today and called it good to get it over with. NO BOOBIES LEFT BEHIND!
Ded MATAP	Posted - 2011.04.15 06:54:00 - [385] A lot of caldari, amarr, minmatar designs. Almost no gallente. See? This is the best proof of gallentes inferiority. Bust'em. Give'em some love!
Skyreth Not So Random Ransomers	Posted - 2011.04.15 11:38:00 - [386] Originally by: Ded MATAP A lot of caldari, amarr, minmatar designs. Almost no gallente. See? This is the best proof of gallentes inferiority. Bust'em. Give'em some love! Or...just delete them? Good designs, but the stats for Gall ships are lacking. --------------------------------- You think your lag is bad? It took Jesus 3 days to respawn!
JORDAN 421	Posted - 2011.04.15 13:56:00 - [387] æCreate a starshipÆ winners announced reported by: CCP Guard \| 2011.04.14 18:13:02 SO WHERES THE WINNER??? ALL I SEE IS ENTRY'S AND LINKS THAT GO ROUND IN CIRCLES, OR AM I SEE IT WRONG AND ALL OF THEM ARE WINNERS ?? SOME ONE PLEASE EXPLAIN P.S. I AM SHOUTING (why i have used caps)
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2011.04.15 14:54:00 - [388] He started another thread where he listed the winners. Hope the web page gets updated soon just for consistancy.
Rage Spear Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.04.15 14:56:00 - [389] Pretty surprising brain fart here...why does a "winners announced!" link take me round in a comedy circle of links none of which involves who the actual winners are? Sometimes I think CCP just like to poke us with sticks so they can see us rant...
Salpun Gallente Paramount Commerce	Posted - 2011.04.15 15:18:00 - [390] http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1496683 The above thread shows who won. The only confusing part is the finalist link does not explain clearly how those finalists where chosen.
Jaedan Caldari PWNED Factor	Posted - 2011.04.15 20:46:00 - [391] Congrats to the winners. I'd love to see all those ships in game, some of my favorite ships didn't get chosen :(
Fred Kyong Caldari EWH NanoTex	Posted - 2011.04.15 22:17:00 - [392] Edited by: Fred Kyong on 15/04/2011 22:19:01 Congrats to the winner. All very nice ships, I would have liked to vote for all of them. But: All ships I do not really need. I have enough BC/BS¦s and whatever. I would have liked ships we do not have yet with maybe some new modules, and bonus. Such as: - WH Exploration Ships - Gas Mining Ships - Maybe a new Orca with some jump drive capabilities - An Outpost/ POS Logistics vessel what can load outposts/pos/pos fuel/ pos modules However, nice work PS: I would never use face book to vote. Thats fail. I can write you a HTML code with abit of MySQL to put this on a website
Trasporter Cullejen	Posted - 2011.04.16 02:27:00 - [393] Yeah there are too many BS's and BC's... Have you noticed that there are if not any, little gallente creations? does nobody like round and buggish? What types of ships i would like to see in game: Medium size hauler that doesnt take months to train for cant think of any more... And there should really be missle turrets instead it just comming from the hull of the ship...
DrysonBennington	Posted - 2011.05.05 02:47:00 - [394] Edited by: DrysonBennington on 05/05/2011 02:55:32 Edited by: DrysonBennington on 05/05/2011 02:53:13 What EvE needs are race specific ECM Ship's. We shouldn't have to be forced to train Caldari skill's just to use the BlackBird. I also think that high sector capital ship's are a must that way 0.0 corps cannot run to their high sector haven's of safety after their POS has been popped. A few new classes of ships that are higher up on the tier but still under the Drednought class of ship would provide limited fighter and fighter bomber support for higer sector operation's. The new ship's would be in the same tier as the Maurader class of ship's but would be equipped similar to their larger cousin's that roam the depth's of 0.0. For instance the Hyperion could have most of it's offensive weapon's removed leaving three high slots that would then allow for the vessel class to be used as a fighter/fighter bomber carrier. The fighter and fighter/bomber craft used would be more powerful than even the best drone possibly used but would still be smaller in size and power when compared to let's say a Nyx Class Carrier. One BS from each race would be converted into the carrier or better yet new design's would be incorporated to develop a brand new look. Think about the high sector carrier as a smaller flatop version of the larger flatop. I think that there should also be a combat hauler able to defend itself against 0.0 gate camper's and raider's. The hauler's that can warp cloaked are okay but lack sufficient cargo hold space to make them effective except for operation's close to the 0.0 post. A cargo hauler that is able to defend itself against cruiser's without the aid of combat support ship's is needed. The ship should have destroyer warp capabilities that replace the cloaked warp function while having a top end carghold capacity of a fully rigged out Mammoth. Low structural hit points would allow for such a ship to be designed. High armor and shield resistance somewhere around 45% starting off for each type of resist. Five high slot's, four medium slot's and five low slot's plus 75 m3 drone space. Here are some free tools for those interested in developing their own starship's. Blender - 3D modeling program Sketch-Up - 3D modeling program My Paint - great for creating surface meshes Gimp - great for creating surface meshes
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.05 02:58:00 - [395] Originally by: DrysonBennington Edited by: DrysonBennington on 05/05/2011 02:55:32 Edited by: DrysonBennington on 05/05/2011 02:53:13 What EvE needs are race specific ECM Ship's. We shouldn't have to be forced to train Caldari skill's just to use the BlackBird. ... s Battleships with dreadnought and carrier capabilities, combat haulers, ECM ships for all races.. what are you on? P.S. It's EVE! EVE!
Anuiruson Bennington	Posted - 2011.05.05 03:05:00 - [396] Someone should really tell the nub's like eh hum above to mind their manner's when talking to older capsuleer's. Understand nub? EvE-Online is how I spell it so buzz off. Don't like it file a petition, groundhog.
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.05.05 03:36:00 - [397] Edited by: Wilhelm Riley on 05/05/2011 03:39:30 Originally by: Anuiruson Bennington Someone should really tell the nub's like eh hum above to mind their manner's when talking to older capsuleer's. Understand nub? EvE-Online is how I spell it so buzz off. Don't like it file a petition, groundhog. So.. you take pride in being wrong? And why would I petition it? Edit: And what do you say to players older than you? I've seen Akita T and half a dozen other people berate you regarding the proper use of the apostrophe, what do you say to them?

CCP Spitfire C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.05.05 13:41:00 - [398] Offtopic posts removed. Spitfire Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online


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