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Flaser
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:51:00 -
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Well, since all the other afk cloak threads are getting locked, I started my own. I support taking action against afk cloaking. In the 5 months I have been in the game, this is one of the most strange things I see people do. I think it's pretty laim that people go to bed or work for several hours and just sit in stations or cloak in sectors just to irritate people. There was a 2 week period in my 0.0 space where the same dude was "always" there, 24 hours day/7 days a week, get a life man! As a result it locks down the system from ratting etc. Now I have heard all the flame responses, which supprises me how many people support it, and none are valid to me. So this is just my opinion on the matter as a new player. Maybe the devs will see this as a developing subject and look into it, hopefully. I think only active mining modules should keep you from auto log off after 15 minutes no activity.
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Janos Saal
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:53:00 -
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I support ****ting in your mouth.
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Feligast
Minmatar GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:58:00 -
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There's a reason all those other threads got locked.. because they're as ignorant as this one.
IBTL
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Chuck Sands
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:58:00 -
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I support effing up your bot.
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Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:58:00 -
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Edited by: Ariz Black on 19/03/2011 20:58:32
Originally by: FlaserAs a result it locks down the system from ratting etc.
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Captain Die
Suicide by Cop
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:59:00 -
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Cloaked guy can't do anything until he uncloaks. --- DIE - EVE-O's SADOMASICHIST I WHO HAVE NOTHING! |
Lothris Andastar
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Posted - 2011.03.19 20:59:00 -
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Originally by: Flaser As a result it locks down the system from ratting etc
How does it "lock down a system"?
If a guy is AFK, he can't hurt you. Not my problem your chinese macrobots are programmed to run like a ***** if they see anyone in local.
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Lucy Journey
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: Flaser blablabla...it locks down the system from ratting etc....blablabla
I don't see how an afk person would interfere with your ratting. It might be time to grow a spine. |
CharmingButIrrational
Roswell Project Victimz
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:00:00 -
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They have lives, that's why they're afk.
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Diablo Ex
Caldari Reasonable People Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:06:00 -
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I support the idea that the OP needs to get a few corp mates to fly security for his carebear ratting ship.
Seriously, the tears are sweet, but I'm starting to become diabetic here. Harden the _______ up, dude.
If you are tired of seeing that "red" in system, the close your Local channel, or get somebody in a frigate to hold your hand while you chain rat in your PvE battleship.
If you have ever actually fought a single covert ops frigate you would know just how lame you are sounding.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:09:00 -
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Originally by: Flaser it locks down the system from ratting etc.
Wrong.
It doesn't lock down anything. You do.
Solve that problem instead. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
rofflesausage
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:13:00 -
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Obligatory 'minimise local'.
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Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:13:00 -
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Originally by: Diablo Ex If you have ever actually fought a single covert ops frigate you would know just how lame you are sounding.
They pop easily, but on the other hand there's no restriction on it being a covert ops frig... it could quite easily be a battleship with 3x targeting system stabilizers on and a ****-load of artillery.
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Lothris Andastar
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:14:00 -
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Originally by: Sentient Blade
Originally by: Diablo Ex If you have ever actually fought a single covert ops frigate you would know just how lame you are sounding.
They pop easily, but on the other hand there's no restriction on it being a covert ops frig... it could quite easily be a battleship with 3x targeting system stabilizers on and a ****-load of artillery.
And if it's AFK, this matters because....
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Diablo Ex
Caldari Reasonable People Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:16:00 -
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Originally by: Sentient Blade
Originally by: Diablo Ex If you have ever actually fought a single covert ops frigate you would know just how lame you are sounding.
They pop easily, but on the other hand there's no restriction on it being a covert ops frig... it could quite easily be a battleship with 3x targeting system stabilizers on and a ****-load of artillery.
....Shhhhhhh.....be werry werry qwiet, I'm hunting wabbits!
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Lord's Prophet
Totally Abstract O X I D E
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:19:00 -
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Originally by: Sentient Blade it could quite easily be a battleship with 3x targeting system stabilizers on and a ****-load of artillery.
i, too, find that battleships with cloaking devices can lock me before i can warp out. ________
Originally by: CCP Mitnal If I ever need an alligator at 3am, I now know where to find one!
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Diablo Ex
Caldari Reasonable People Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lord's Prophet
Originally by: Sentient Blade it could quite easily be a battleship with 3x targeting system stabilizers on and a ****-load of artillery.
i, too, find that battleships with cloaking devices can lock me before i can warp out.
ahh... try aligning to a celestial while you carebear. ---
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:25:00 -
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Originally by: Lord's Prophet
Originally by: Sentient Blade it could quite easily be a battleship with 3x targeting system stabilizers on and a ****-load of artillery.
i, too, find that battleships with cloaking devices can lock me before i can warp out.
Maybe he's ratting in a Charonà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Lord's Prophet
Totally Abstract O X I D E
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:28:00 -
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Originally by: Diablo Ex
Originally by: Lord's Prophet
Originally by: Sentient Blade it could quite easily be a battleship with 3x targeting system stabilizers on and a ****-load of artillery.
i, too, find that battleships with cloaking devices can lock me before i can warp out.
ahh... try aligning to a celestial while you carebear.
ahh... try recalibrating your ability to detect blatantly obvious sarcasm ________
Originally by: CCP Mitnal If I ever need an alligator at 3am, I now know where to find one!
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Diablo Ex
Caldari Reasonable People Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Lord's Prophet
Originally by: Diablo Ex
Originally by: Lord's Prophet
Originally by: Sentient Blade it could quite easily be a battleship with 3x targeting system stabilizers on and a ****-load of artillery.
i, too, find that battleships with cloaking devices can lock me before i can warp out.
ahh... try aligning to a celestial while you carebear.
ahh... try recalibrating your ability to detect blatantly obvious sarcasm
Right.....recalibration in progress. ---
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Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:30:00 -
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Edited by: Sentient Blade on 19/03/2011 21:32:02
Originally by: Lothris Andastar And if it's AFK, this matters because....
Because common sense dictates you plan for the worst case.. that means considering it as either a fast-lock battleship, or a recon ship in a fleet with a titan on the other end ready to jump bridge some friends over to blob you.
Common sense dictates that you cannot know when this person is attentive or not. By the very nature of cloaking and how we're connecting to the game this is impossible to tell. The assumption must be made that they're either constantly attentive, or are checking back at a frequency that effectively means the same.
Yes, aligning is helpful, but even an aligned mining fleet can be alpha'd before they hit warp. Unless you're suggesting nobody can stand still.
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Lord's Prophet
Totally Abstract O X I D E
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Sentient Blade Because common sense dictates you plan for the worst case.. that means considering it as either a fast-lock battleship, or a recon ship in a fleet with a titan on the other end ready to jump bridge some friends over to blob you.
Common sense dictates that you cannot know when this person is attentive or not. By the very nature of cloaking and how we're connecting to the game this is impossible to tell. The assumption must be made that they're either constantly attentive, or are checking back at a frequency that effectively means the same.
Yes, aligning is helpful, but even an aligned mining fleet can be alpha'd before they hit warp. Unless you're suggesting nobody can stand still.
so many thing wrong here it's not even funny.
- a battleship with a cloaking device will have a lock time measurable almost in minutes. - every recon has a titan waiting for him, this is totally common sense and also titans can lock **** before they warp away from them ________
Originally by: CCP Mitnal If I ever need an alligator at 3am, I now know where to find one!
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Sentient Blade
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:36:00 -
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Originally by: Lord's Prophet - every recon has a titan waiting for him, this is totally common sense and also titans can lock **** before they warp away from them
Oh I'm sorry, you must not have never come across a heavy interdictor or a 40 man hot-drop.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 19/03/2011 21:39:56
Originally by: Sentient Blade Yes, aligning is helpful, but even an aligned mining fleet can be alpha'd before they hit warp. Unless you're suggesting nobody can stand still.
By very definition of "aligned", they're not standing still.
àoh, and no, a fast-locking battleship with a cloak can't lock anything before it warps off (unless, again, you're ratting in a Charon). As a result, the only thing they can alpha in a mining fleet is the rocks left behind. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:42:00 -
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Edited by: Pesky LaRue on 19/03/2011 21:42:14
Originally by: Flaser Well, since all the other afk cloak threads are getting locked, I started my own.
Genius! Originally by: Flaser I support taking action against afk cloaking.
no one cares. .
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:43:00 -
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Originally by: Flaser Well, since all the other afk cloak threads are getting locked, I started my own. I support taking action against afk cloaking. In the 5 months I have been in the game, this is one of the most strange things I see people do. I think it's pretty laim that people go to bed or work for several hours and just sit in stations or cloak in sectors just to irritate people. There was a 2 week period in my 0.0 space where the same dude was "always" there, 24 hours day/7 days a week, get a life man! As a result it locks down the system from ratting etc. Now I have heard all the flame responses, which supprises me how many people support it, and none are valid to me. So this is just my opinion on the matter as a new player. Maybe the devs will see this as a developing subject and look into it, hopefully. I think only active mining modules should keep you from auto log off after 15 minutes no activity.
So what you're saying is you'd like to get rid of local? Obviously, local is what's locking down your system, not the afk cloaker. Here's why. If there was not local then cloakers would not go afk in your system for days on end.
I live in w-space. We don't have local. We just assume there are cloaky bad guys in our system. And yet, we mine, we farm sleeper sites, we spar in space, we hunt other people and generally do whatever we want to do.
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Ovella
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:45:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Lord's Prophet
Originally by: Sentient Blade it could quite easily be a battleship with 3x targeting system stabilizers on and a ****-load of artillery.
i, too, find that battleships with cloaking devices can lock me before i can warp out.
Maybe he's ratting in a Charonà
I think I found his alt |
Diablo Ex
Caldari Reasonable People Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:47:00 -
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Originally by: Sentient Blade Edited by: Sentient Blade on 19/03/2011 21:32:02
Originally by: Lothris Andastar And if it's AFK, this matters because....
Because common sense dictates you plan for the worst case.. that means considering it as either a fast-lock battleship, or a recon ship in a fleet with a titan on the other end ready to jump bridge some friends over to blob you.
Common sense dictates that you cannot know when this person is attentive or not. By the very nature of cloaking and how we're connecting to the game this is impossible to tell. The assumption must be made that they're either constantly attentive, or are checking back at a frequency that effectively means the same.
Yes, aligning is helpful, but even an aligned mining fleet can be alpha'd before they hit warp. Unless you're suggesting nobody can stand still.
Ok, let me try to explain this in the simplest of terms.
If you are attentive, you are not AFK. If you are AFK, you are not attentive.
The OP is complaining about AFK cloakers, not Attentive Cloakers. This is why the topic is such a FAIL.
How you tell the difference, I can't say. Just once I would like to see an OP post about solving the issues with Cloakers and cloaking devices without the prefix of AFK.
If I am truly "Away from the keyboard" then I cannot be a threat to you. Aparently this OP, and many, many others have no issues with me at my computer. But the moment I step away, they start to cry FOUL!
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Simetriz
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:53:00 -
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BAN a Cloaker NO.
How as it stands right now it is impossible to scan down a cloaked ship, therefore it makes it impossible to kill them once they are cloaked.
Nothing in EVE should be impossible. Give players the ability to scan down cloaked ships. Make it hard and make it take a lot of time but make it possible.
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Ariz Black
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Posted - 2011.03.19 21:53:00 -
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Originally by: Simetriz How as it stands right now it is impossible to scan down a cloaked ship, therefore it makes it impossible to kill them once they are cloaked.
this is not true.
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