Originally by: bitters much

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NC`s CSM team painted a line in the sand and CCP crossed it, now NC`s CSM team has a sandy vagina.

0.0 on easy mode will be gone in a few days, deal with it ( and lose some freighters over it ).

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Originally by: CCP Soundwave

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Yep, and I don't like those requirements vOv. They're a horrible way of excluding players from playing with their corps/and alliances, and I'd love some of the basics to be streamlined, like travel distance. Not necessarily nerfed, but similar to the extent that your jump range isn't the factor that keeps you from playing EVE.

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Originally by: Svennig

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Originally by: Alar Tangor

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a pattern emerges... the people who applaud this are mostly empiredwellers and members of entities like PL Noir. and Hydra who are in their nature non space holding mercenaries (whose job just got this much easier now they can prey on everyone wanting to travel 0.0) while every spaceholder cries in anguish (minus the logistics guys who already cut their wrists)

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Spaceholders and those who aspire to be spaceholders. It's not just about who is there now, it's about who wants to go there in the future. Sanctums got nerfed, so it's harder to make money. Travel's going to get a little bit more dangerous, but mostly much much much more ****ing annoying. 0.0 is significantly less appealing right now. And this is supposed to encourage change? A large number of smaller sov-holding alliances?

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Originally by: hankey

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WTF CCP?!
It'll allow one small person to totally RUIN game for the lots of people who travel unarmed/untanked/slow etc.

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Originally by: neurocite

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....more will just live in high/low sec and go to 0.0 for pvp....

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Originally by: Vaju Katru

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Originally by: hankey

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WTF CCP?!
---->Travel time is about 10 minutes from one Drone Region border to another.<----

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Apparently, you understand why jumpbridges are being nerfed.

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Originally by: Kasuki Itsu

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The main thing I don't like about this change is that it makes forming up an average gang of 30 - 40 more tedious. Increased travel times mean a longer form up time and possibly less people bothering to come along, and also makes travelling outside of friendly space to fight enemies more of a chore.

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Originally by: Ravelin Eb

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This is one of better changes for PL this game will see.

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Originally by: Feyleaf

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ccp is limiting player influence by throwing aroung changes to 0.0 power balance to "rock the boat" or whatever.. if im gonna loose i will rather loose to other players.

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Originally by: Sedilis

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Originally by: hankey

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WTF CCP?!
It'll allow one small person to totally RUIN game for the lots of people who travel unarmed/untanked/slow etc.

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Mission accomplished

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Originally by: Morathee

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Originally by: Kasuki Itsu

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As for the changes they sound great. I'm guessing when JBs were thought up by CCP they probably didn't expect multiple alliances to create and share their JBs to form super highways spanning 50% of 0.0

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Yeah, but like some snot-nose kid on the playground, when things don't go their way they take their ball and go home... These asshats love messing things up I tell ya...

Originally by: Tandin

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Originally by: Lt Smithh

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1. PL your a bunch of "live at home F**s, We know you live in your 4 Sov system that don't need a JB network as you blob your Super's around.

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A) It's "you're"

Originally by: Lt Smithh

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Its almost like saying that the US military will loose all of its Carriers and support ships and they can only use there battleships because the people we are at war with does not have Carriers.

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B) The US doesn't technically have any BS's on the naval registry. Guided missile cruisers and such, yes. BS's.. no..

Not sure how nerfing JB's equates to neutering ship classes though. Jump capable ships are still useful. It just means you can't jam every system anymore (which isn't necessarily a bad thing).

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Originally by: CCP Soundwave

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Edited by: CCP Soundwave on 11/05/2011 10:05:08

Originally by: Flesh Slurper

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Originally by: CCP Soundwave

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Not at all talking about nerfing/allowing more projection, I'm talking about dealing with the situation that someone owns a carrier but can't participate in a cap fleet because of x skill requirements.

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Did it ever occur to you that there are x skill requirements to participate in a cap fleet for a reason? I mean the person has to be able to jump to the location (that can require a minimum JDC skill level), there might be a need to help provide logistics to subcaps or caps (thus a minimum level in remote repairing), weapon or damage types preferred to counter enemy etc.

So now you want to dictate for us who can and can't be in fleets?

You also realize that a standard carrier will last less than 15seconds against a supercarrier right?

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Yep, and I don't like those requirements vOv. They're a horrible way of excluding players from playing with their corps/and alliances, and I'd love some of the basics to be streamlined, like travel distance. Not necessarily nerfed, but similar to the extent that your jump range isn't the factor that keeps you from playing EVE.

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Originally by: Feyleaf

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Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 11:53:49
Edited by: Feyleaf on 11/05/2011 11:52:22
stuff like this needs longer warning..

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Originally by: Alissa Solette

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Originally by: Feyleaf

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ccp is limiting player influence by throwing aroung changes to 0.0 power balance to "rock the boat" or whatever.. if im gonna loose i will rather loose to other players.

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It's "lose"... unless you're talking about loose pants or loose change.

Also: game changes are normal in EVE. The game changed massively since I've started. Back then there were no capitals (later they were introduced but were way to expensive for most people), no JBs, no JFs etc. and we survived (and likely became less dismal, timid and self-centred players because of it). Back then you actually needed to work together to get anything done. Now you just have your logistic slaves that (for whatever reason) build up your JB network for you and maintain it so you can fly around in near perfect safety.

Why anyone would expect or even demand that the "average Jack" should be safe while slow-boating through 0.0 is a mystery to me... 0.0 is NOT about being safe and maximizing your botting output... it's about fighting each other. If players make use of game mechanics to prevent that integral part of the game then those game mechanics need to be changed (exactly like was done with the speed nerf - people found out that they can remain very safe while PVPing due to speed so speed was nerfed).

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Originally by: Alissa Solette

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Edited by: Alissa Solette on 11/05/2011 11:13:09

Originally by: Miso Hawnee

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DRF pro PVP? Which server are you playing eve on? GG you are out of touch...

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I didn't say they're pro anything but they're definitely out-perfoming you guys at every turn. They also seem to be fielding a lot more supers then you guys... come to think of it perhaps there is some causal relationship between those two statements?

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