On a personal level, I want the CSM to be a more effective working body. I believe that by reforming the voting system, we can improve the overall quality of the candidates -- and the resulting council.

... the advantage of providing more diverse representation in the lower slots of the CSM.

How exactly does voting reform that screws over big blocs help you improve the quality of the candidates by allowing even more useless fluff like yourself onto the CSM?

. . .it is possible to have a CSM that represents the whole population.

Strange though that in no point during the summer minutes did the voting for CSM come up, and yet it's been a constant concern.

So how many members on CSM 6 were from Null?

I don't think, for a second, that Hans' "it was squarely trebor's idea!" backpedalling has any root in reality, this reeks more of something the entire CSM has come up with. Just look at the few CSM rep posts in here, all of them have been in defense of the idea (except Hans, which turned his coat to suit the way the wind blew vOv), and Seleene has even tweeted about it, saying "I consider it a first stab at things. Do you think it should remain as is? Plenty of time for ~change~.", "ItGÇÖs good, right! Let me know if you spot an ~less mad~ post with some actual ideas in it. :) " and "Where are all the other good ideas or proposals tho? the whole point is to see where the community stands on this. "

Yeah, no, this was CSM-wide.

And here's an idea: resign.

So let's get this straight, the CSM wants to lessen the power of the largest group of voters in the CSM election, who just happened to not for any of them, and they're flabbergasted when they wind up being accused of attempting to rig the vote to favor themselves.

If you don't like this initial proposal, counter it with your own and let's see what we can all come up with.

My counter-proposal: don't change anything.

this is a discussion that needs to be had

If you don't like this initial proposal, counter it with your own and let's see what we can all come up with.

Trebor wants more limp-wristed candidates. More Kelduums. More Isslers. More Meissas. Because these people are so meek, that they listen to Trebor. They look up to Trebor. The Mittani never gave Trebor the time of day, and Trebor definitely does not want more Mittani's on the CSM to work with

Why?

If you don't like this initial proposal, counter it with your own and let's see what we can all come up with.

Ignoring legitimate criticism while vaguely referring to tinfoil hattery is extremely dishonest and I am extremely disappointed in both you and the other CSM members, Seleene. Many very serious and legitimate critiques have been made in this thread. Your dismissive attitude is patronizing and appalling.

I explained that earlier. Because CCP threw the original system together with no player oversight. Due to discussions over the past couple of years, CCP is open to evolving the system if players believe that needs to happen.



Maybe nothing. Possibly everything. I guess we will find out.

If you don't like this initial proposal, counter it with your own and let's see what we can all come up with

There IS a lot of tinfoil BS in this thread with regard to why this thread exists and I make no apologies for being annoyed by it.

3) Reduce (but not eliminate) the advantages held by highly organized voting blocs.

I explained that earlier. Because CCP threw the original system together with no player oversight. Due to discussions over the past couple of years, CCP is open to evolving the system if players believe that needs to happen.

Maybe nothing. Possibly everything. I guess we will find out.

There IS a lot of tinfoil BS in this thread with regard to why this thread exists and I make no apologies for being annoyed by it.