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CCP Zymurgist Gallente C C P	Posted - 2011.06.06 20:47:00 - [1] EVE Online: Incursion 1.6.1 is scheduled for deployment during an extended downtime on Tuesday, June 7. Downtime will begin at 11:00 UTC and is expected to be completed at 13:30 UTC. The Incursion 1.6.1 patch fixes issues introduced with the Incursion 1.6 patch. Patch notes for this release will be available soon. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us

sir bob	Posted - 2011.06.06 20:51:00 - [2] i can see a long day comeing
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.06.06 20:54:00 - [3] Edited by: Xercodo on 06/06/2011 20:54:27 yay \o/ edit: second! lol -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
Assimil8r	Posted - 2011.06.06 20:56:00 - [4] Is this going to fix (aka remove) Guristas permajam capability?
KnyteStorm Hawk	Posted - 2011.06.06 20:59:00 - [5] Edited by: KnyteStorm Hawk on 06/06/2011 21:00:35 Well time to make sure have a week long train settup. I wonder ig the missing PI CCU's will uncloak when this patch is done.
DmitryEKT Waterboard	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:08:00 - [6] IBC! Only 2 main things I want fixed that 1.6 broke: -brackets visible in space again -ctrl not sticking anymore the rest is just fluff
Iurnan Mileghere Singularity Foundation	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:11:00 - [7] Hopefully the crash fixes, too...
Raven Berserker	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:11:00 - [8] I haven't checked the thread but I hope they fix the turret sound issue. I can't hear myself mining when the camera is on the default position. I have to click on an asteroid or other object and move the camera around until I can hear my strip miners.
Aston Martin DB5	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:13:00 - [9] Hopefully this will fix the warp effects.
Nye Jaran	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:24:00 - [10] Better fix the sticky keys. If not, this patch is ****ing worthless.
DJWiggles Gallente Eve Radio Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:29:00 - [11] Why not pass the time with us :D Now with added extra Wigglyness and a big white fluffy bunny suit with a BLUE BOW TIE on Mondays 19:00 - 22:00 GMT on EVE-Radio.
Fattyfatty DingDong Fatty's Home for Wayward Kitties Sewn Together Wrong	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:31:00 - [12] Originally by: Assimil8r Is this going to fix (aka remove) Guristas permajam capability?
Levona Succuboso Caldari Iniquitous Technologies	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:33:00 - [13] Originally by: Assimil8r Is this going to fix (aka remove) Guristas permajam capability?
Arthur Fancy	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:35:00 - [14] Originally by: Assimil8r Is this going to fix (aka remove) Guristas permajam capability?
Templar Knightsbane	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:43:00 - [15] About damn time
Mineral Ore	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:44:00 - [16] Can we get the crashing fixed..seriously cant run more than 1 account at a time.. Priority 1, followed by guristas permajam..
Soldarth	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:48:00 - [17] I hope it fixes the crashing when running more than 1 account at the same time
skater girl	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:50:00 - [18] dont think ive seen so many patches in such a short period of time. And they all seem to be deployed on my day off....:( Suppose the wife will find me something 'better' to do lol
Mineral Ore	Posted - 2011.06.06 21:59:00 - [19] Quote: òAn error in the "Left to Right Handed" conversion of EVE Online was causing billboards to appear on the wrong side of stargates. This has now been fixed. Really?...Who gives a crap.
Sanakan XXX	Posted - 2011.06.06 22:00:00 - [20] Originally by: Mineral Ore Can we get the crashing fixed..seriously cant run more than 1 account at a time.. Priority 1, followed by guristas permajam.. indeed, I know most of them will CANCEL the subscription of the additional accounts. CCP, wake up or there goes your money!!!! I also crash after a few minutes with only 1 account running alt-tabbed.
Darwen Gallente Global Economy Experts	Posted - 2011.06.06 22:10:00 - [21] Originally by: Sanakan XXX Originally by: Mineral Ore Can we get the crashing fixed..seriously cant run more than 1 account at a time.. Priority 1, followed by guristas permajam.. indeed, I know most of them will CANCEL the subscription of the additional accounts. CCP, wake up or there goes your money!!!! I also crash after a few minutes with only 1 account running alt-tabbed. I first thought it was b/c I was running 2 clients then when I was running just one, I alt+tabbed and it crashed too. I didn't know it also happened upon docking/undocking but I noticed it happened when alt+tabed while jumping. This seriously made me consider canceling my other account. Hopefully this IS a fix and not a 'hopefully.' ----------------------------------------------- You don't realize how fun mining is until you've depleted your millionth roid. Not that I've done that.
Kerr avonn Minmatar New Eden Network Solutions	Posted - 2011.06.06 22:10:00 - [22] /me puts a long skill in the queue
Klingon Admiral Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.06 22:28:00 - [23] Quote: # Spotlights were reversed in two Amarr stations. This has been fixed, and Jamal Sarum is now ready for her close-up, Mr. DeMille. She's called Jamyl.
McFly Peanut Factory	Posted - 2011.06.06 22:33:00 - [24] What about having to set "show all brackets" after every session change? Oh and QUIT BREAKING THE F'N GAME!
Euphonus	Posted - 2011.06.06 22:38:00 - [25] About time, those "stuck" hotkeys have cost me a few killmails and endless frustrations already as targets magically unlocked themselves or auto-looked at targets when I'm trying to overheat something in a nanoboat (aka. near death thanks to loss of awareness). And Guristas have been able to perma-jam since the npc-jamming "fix" (which just turned all jamming guristas ships into falcons...), I highly doubt it'll get fixed now. The way NPC jamming was before is fine- now even with running an ECCM guristas missions are still too slow with the amount of time you spend jammed compared to firing.
Buzzmong Aliastra	Posted - 2011.06.06 23:25:00 - [26] Woo, a fairly comprehensive list of fixes. CCP Zymurgist, can you pass my thanks onto the programmers who will have been living at CCP over the past week to fix the issues that have cropped up due to the Carbonisation of the UI code? The rest of CCP should treat them to some bree AND beer. --------------------------------- Go Web! Go!
Gaia Ma'chello	Posted - 2011.06.06 23:35:00 - [27] Thanks for the fixes. Wish you had gotten to my bug #111971. Its a bad one, causing a crash to desktop.
ACESsiggy Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.06 23:43:00 - [28] Geez ... double space the list of fixes next time.
FlopSter Caldari Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.06.06 23:44:00 - [29] Holding down shortcut keys no longer causes them to become stuck. THANK GOD, Most annoying bug EVER.
Guillame Herschel Gallente NME1	Posted - 2011.06.06 23:58:00 - [30] Quote: Holding down shortcut keys no longer causes them to become stuck. What the heck, man? This was the best thing ever! Target lock mode engaged, one click locking is a huge improvement! Can you at least keep Ctrl working the way it is now?
Mfanya Corshal	Posted - 2011.06.07 00:01:00 - [31] I'm not seeing anything about market-induced client crashes :( The locked-ctrl fix is nice, though. Keep at it, fellas, you'll get it .. we have faith.
Templar Knightsbane	Posted - 2011.06.07 00:13:00 - [32] will this update address any of the slowness issues people are experiencing in the mac client? as if min requirements have gone up?
Dnai Hsrang Caldari Cardinal Enterprises	Posted - 2011.06.07 00:36:00 - [33] I don't see the issue below in the patch notes. Several other users have confirmed this is an issue. Please advise when it will be corrected. Issue: Unable to click on Bookmarks and sites (w-space) in the solar system map. Hovering over BM does not display the name assigned to the bookmark or site (w-space). You are still able to right click a bookmark or site and warp to it but you don't know which one you are warping to.
Nirnaeth Ornoediad Caldari Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.07 00:37:00 - [34] "The shares vote screen now works." People actually use this functionality?
Ejena Thellere	Posted - 2011.06.07 00:42:00 - [35] I keep having targets unlock after I lock them, this is irritating when doing a mission and you lock 5 or so (of 20 ish) and then they unlock. Pls fix this. Best game ever: Eve Offline
Tacyon Caldari The Phayder Corporation Cadavera Innumera Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 01:03:00 - [36] Well I'm glad to see that I wasn't the only one with terminally crashing clients, inability to run more than one client at a time and sticking ctrl key ... (in EVE only!) 1) When running two clients the 2nd one opened and got to where the hanger should be. But I'd see nothing but a black screen. Fitting windows, etc were still live in the back ground. 2) With only one client open, it'd crash every 2-10 minutes. Sometimes BSoD, but mostly CTDs. Work around for 1 and 2 was to disable the "Post Processing" on the graphics tab. I chauked this up to the new shader code. 3) sticky keys - I've seen this before in other apps that I use daily so without even thinking I tapped the ctrl key 3-7 times and it unstuck it. I hope that the patch tomorrow fixes these as I hate disabling eye candy with $1000.00 graphics cards My god .. it's full of stars !
Solomon XI Hidden Souls	Posted - 2011.06.07 01:07:00 - [37] Confirming that CCP is still trying to fix the bugs that it's Q/A team missed during the actual patch. These client updates are a damn joke. I hope somebody lost their job over their stupidity.
Gartelion	Posted - 2011.06.07 01:34:00 - [38] Hmmm, no fixes in PI... So, we will have to "use the Force" this week too to find out how much we are extracting...
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.06.07 01:47:00 - [39] What about the hard limit of 50 server-side fittings?
Tacyon Caldari The Phayder Corporation Cadavera Innumera Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 01:55:00 - [40] OMG - you've pulled out the ole soap box now ... how the hell did that [fitting nerf] ever make it to the light of day and after all the complains was it allowed to stay ??? CCP - FREE MY FITTINGS ! My HDD is larger than yours it would seem ! Seriously ... put it back or give me the option to disable !!! My god .. it's full of stars !
Race Drones 13th Squadron E C L I P S E	Posted - 2011.06.07 02:29:00 - [41] òThe module highlighting for Covert Ops Cloaking Device II (and similar) is now correct. ^^ I like the actual white ring !
Quee Quage	Posted - 2011.06.07 02:38:00 - [42] need more drops in plex's
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.06.07 04:16:00 - [43] Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara on 07/06/2011 04:20:59 I did not see a specific line item addressing the "ghost" items appearing in many players' overviews. Is this issue going to be addressed in the 1.6.1 patch? Edit: How many issues stemming from the 1.6 patch remain open and are awaiting developer time for evaluation and repair? This question also applies to the Incursion 1.4 and 1.5 releases. Originally by: Higgs Bison How will EVE be affected if Dust is a flop?
Das Arius	Posted - 2011.06.07 04:23:00 - [44] Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara on 07/06/2011 04:20:59 I did not see a specific line item addressing the "ghost" items appearing in many players' overviews. Is this issue going to be addressed in the 1.6.1 patch? Edit: How many issues stemming from the 1.6 patch remain open and are awaiting developer time for evaluation and repair? This question also applies to the Incursion 1.4 and 1.5 releases. The "Ghost" issue is related to the sticky-ctrl issue. Theoretically fixing that will alleviate this problem.
Double Letters	Posted - 2011.06.07 04:44:00 - [45] Quote: The wallet orders tab will no longer break. Quite a bold statement, ccp :D
Xander Hunt Minmatar Dead Rats Tell No Tales	Posted - 2011.06.07 04:50:00 - [46] Its great that the CTRL-Lock is getting fixed, but now what about the double-clicking issue?
Hakaru Ishiwara Minmatar Republic Military School	Posted - 2011.06.07 05:16:00 - [47] Originally by: Das Arius Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara Edited by: Hakaru Ishiwara on 07/06/2011 04:20:59 I did not see a specific line item addressing the "ghost" items appearing in many players' overviews. Is this issue going to be addressed in the 1.6.1 patch? Edit: How many issues stemming from the 1.6 patch remain open and are awaiting developer time for evaluation and repair? This question also applies to the Incursion 1.4 and 1.5 releases. The "Ghost" issue is related to the sticky-ctrl issue. Theoretically fixing that will alleviate this problem. Oh, interesting. I was unaware of the relationship. The odd thing is that I saw very little ghosting on my PvP toon (that experiences a ton of CTRL-clicking) and moreso on the alt that is not involved in any CTRL-clicking activities. Anyways, time will tell on the fix. Originally by: Higgs Bison How will EVE be affected if Dust is a flop?
Bibi Andersson	Posted - 2011.06.07 05:24:00 - [48] I¦m also getting lot of crashes issues running 2 accounts at the same time, and in solo playing also, and i know lot of friends having the same problem, i hope CCP is going really to fix this important bug with this patch, now the game is broken for me, thanks
DarthNefarius Amarr Minmatar Heavy Industries Knights of Tomorrow	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:13:00 - [49] I'm curious as to what genius decided to "fix" the fleet broadcast window so know you don't know who is broadcasting targets? Not only does it make it impossible to anylonger have multiple callers (long range & short range ) now any one whom joins a large fleet can easily grief & not be booted because we don't know who is cluttering up the broadcast window :(
Dasola Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:51:00 - [50] I see so many things that should not have made it throw in release in first place. Do you fellows have anyone even working in QA department? Have to ask this, becouse evidence points to fact that theres none there. Or atleast theyre not doing what their suposed to do... Looks like CCP forgot excelence again. Come on, its not that hard to do proper testing before release. Current eve release quality is like childrens game programming summer camp productions. And you call yourselfs professionals? Jesus. Hmm no word on market window bug i have encountered few times. I quess i just need to see if its magicly fixed or still live one and needs reporting.
WarTanks	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:11:00 - [51] Whens CCP gonna fix T3's flying backwards. Clearing cache after being out of the ship didn't fix the issue. And it didn't start till they patched the last big patch. Certainly don't see that in the patch notes this time.
Reborn Traveller	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:37:00 - [52] hi, Question about Overview: Why has the behaviour changed when jumping / undocking ?? Every Time the setup (show all brackets) is reset ?? Will this be reverted during this patch ?? thx
Foundation One	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:47:00 - [53] the drone window on my overview is jumpin around, switchin order with other windows if/when i release drones
i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY Gallente sHaKeDoWn..	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:56:00 - [54] Originally by: Dnai Hsrang I don't see the issue below in the patch notes. Several other users have confirmed this is an issue. Please advise when it will be corrected. Issue: Unable to click on Bookmarks and sites (w-space) in the solar system map. Hovering over BM does not display the name assigned to the bookmark or site (w-space). You are still able to right click a bookmark or site and warp to it but you don't know which one you are warping to. Gonna fix this or what?
Xilian Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:57:00 - [55] Originally by: Foundation One the drone window on my overview is jumpin around, switchin order with other windows if/when i release drones Yea my probes do the same thing, anoying as hell.
necromaniac XIII	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:07:00 - [56] Issue: Unable to click on Bookmarks and sites (w-space) in the solar system map. Hovering over BM does not display the name assigned to the bookmark or site (w-space). You are still able to right click a bookmark or site and warp to it but you don't know which one you are warping to. yes i agree with the above, its painful. P.I as i understand and see is fixed thnk you. doesnt mention in patch; the overview seems to show ships wrecks etc grayed out after you have warped away or salvaged the item, perfect exaple ccp;- is system (mai) has a pod that has been there for days in overview and on d-scan this pod does not exsist.
Xaelion Snuff Box	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:18:00 - [57] How about the problem where brackets are hidden every time there is a session change? CPP please let us know when this is going to be fixed as well as it's getting really annoying.
SirHarryPierce	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:22:00 - [58] When creating a courier contract, the ship-to "search" button now correctly aligns. - Great, that annoyed me a lot.
Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:23:00 - [59] EVE has been running slower than it usually does for me since the last update.I haven't tried to run the two accounts in that time but it sounds like that wouldn't have worked anyway. I can forsee the game running really slowly from the 21st June. Any news on if you will be able to stick with the current docking/undocking station area as opposed to the new 'fancy' one?
Sarah Steelringer	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:39:00 - [60] DISCRIMINATION AGAINST INTERNATIONAL EVE PLAYERS Enough said, time to stagger the downtimes? Always at primetime for some players.. Not that CCP give a f..
Gibbo5771	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:58:00 - [61] So does this fix the fkin range sticking on the overview or is it a completely worthless patch like the whole of incursion?
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries	Posted - 2011.06.07 09:04:00 - [62] Two important bugs were not mentioned in patch list... - Ship speed indicator sometimes stays black even ship is moving and user keeps changing throttle. - Client crashes while travelling minimized. Both are serious bugs which have appeared with incursion 1.6. Have they been adressed and is there fix in this patch? ------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :)
Ravadre Stimutac The Black Armada	Posted - 2011.06.07 09:14:00 - [63] Edited by: Ravadre on 07/06/2011 09:14:17 Originally by: Grey Stormshadow - Client crashes while travelling minimized. Originally by: CCP Some players were experiencing client crashes when jumping and docking/undocking. This has been fixed. I think this is the issue you are refering to, as what was happening - game crashed while minimalized but only after gate jump, so hopefully, it's getting fixed.
Little Bruggie	Posted - 2011.06.07 09:34:00 - [64] Originally by: Race Drones òThe module highlighting for Covert Ops Cloaking Device II (and similar) is now correct. ^^ I like the actual white ring ! This^.
avorus Amarr Holy Order of the Ouroboros Dragoon Federation	Posted - 2011.06.07 09:47:00 - [65] Hopefully this will actually fix the sticky keys problem,its really annoying.
Lexxxii	Posted - 2011.06.07 10:24:00 - [66] Originally by: Dasola I see so many things that should not have made it throw in release in first place. Do you fellows have anyone even working in QA department? Have to ask this, becouse evidence points to fact that theres none there. Or atleast theyre not doing what their suposed to do... Looks like CCP forgot excelence again. Come on, its not that hard to do proper testing before release. Current eve release quality is like childrens game programming summer camp productions. And you call yourselfs professionals? Jesus. Just one simple example of the lack of Q & A before the patch release...... T3 cruisers flying backwards. I mean, you just had to undock in one to see that... no fancy mix of parameters needed for that one <sigh>
Navetse Sasen Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.07 10:27:00 - [67] Why the first option when client crashes or freezes is to blame CCP and say it is bug ? Seriously. Since the first time I played EVE, I crashed 3 times. Would be 1,5 crash per year. And I run 4 accounts simultaneously most of the time, and occasionally when needed, 5. Time to check out your systems before trying to impress "your bugs" as "priority one". Maybe priority one is change your computer.
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries	Posted - 2011.06.07 10:48:00 - [68] Originally by: Navetse Sasen Why the first option when client crashes or freezes is to blame CCP and say it is bug ? Seriously. Since the first time I played EVE, I crashed 3 times. Would be 1,5 crash per year. And I run 4 accounts simultaneously most of the time, and occasionally when needed, 5. Time to check out your systems before trying to impress "your bugs" as "priority one". Maybe priority one is change your computer. Can only speak on my behalf, but after using debugger to track the client crash to certain code line, repeating the process and debugging 3 times, reporting every single one to ccp with details included and gettin positive reply about already known issue... it is rather difficult to blame hardware as priority 1. ------------------------------------------------- Play with the best - die like the rest starwreck.com - support the cause :)
Navetse Sasen Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.07 10:54:00 - [69] Edited by: Navetse Sasen on 07/06/2011 10:55:28 Originally by: Grey Stormshadow Originally by: Navetse Sasen Why the first option when client crashes or freezes is to blame CCP and say it is bug ? Seriously. Since the first time I played EVE, I crashed 3 times. Would be 1,5 crash per year. And I run 4 accounts simultaneously most of the time, and occasionally when needed, 5. Time to check out your systems before trying to impress "your bugs" as "priority one". Maybe priority one is change your computer. Can only speak on my behalf, but after using debugger to track the client crash to certain code line, repeating the process and debugging 3 times, reporting every single one to ccp with details included and gettin positive reply about already known issue... it is rather difficult to blame hardware as priority 1. Wasnt specifically talking about you. You did the right thing. TEST. Test clients arent there just to test new ships or new features. The test clients are also an unvaluable source of information about your problems with EVE client, and so on. People able to use the test client and actually see the problem are reliable sources of info about bugs out of pure gameplay issues. I meant it to those who just go out and, as said by others, join the "CCP is evil" bandwagon and dont provide any worth feedback, just complain. No wonder why so few players are actually heard.
PartyFavour	Posted - 2011.06.07 10:56:00 - [70] 1. Fleet window opens to "Fleet Finder" > "Find Fleets" tab when you accept a Join Fleet request, not the "My Fleet" tab. The old behavior was perfect. wtf? 2. Old Bookmarks in space sometimes show "Warp to" even when you are AT them. Of course, you cant really warp to them if they are under 150km, but if you try, it does nothing. Small issue but annoying (specially in a bomber). 3. Drone window not only jumps around, but sometimes closes the "Drones in local space" dropdown when you recall or redeploy drones without a session change. 4. Control key sticky - damn, I thought this was my Keyboard until I read others are having the same problem. I do hope these issues are fixed. Coming from a programming background I know I would have got my ass kicked if I released an "update" and generated this number of extra bugs. Damn CCP, take the extra time to get the patches and updates right before releasing them. Your not under any pressure to release them "on a date", so take the time to test them properly first. We don't care if you don't release these patches too often - especially if it means they're bug free when deployed. I really love EveOnline, but the constant bugs and half assed bug fixes is starting to really get on my last nerve.
Apollo Gabriel Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels Etherium Cartel	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:07:00 - [71] Originally by: Gibbo5771 So does this fix the fkin range sticking on the overview or is it a completely worthless patch like the whole of incursion? hold still while I urinate on you. *** Signature may appear without warning! *** Please do not feed the trolls, it builds dependency.
Tyndarym Narast	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:12:00 - [72] Will there be in game a DirectX 11.0 ?
inza onoa Cruentus Invicta	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:13:00 - [73] Originally by: Assimil8r Is this going to fix (aka remove) Guristas permajam capability?
lordakumatatar	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:16:00 - [74] Originally by: skater girl dont think ive seen so many patches in such a short period of time. And they all seem to be deployed on my day off....:( Suppose the wife will find me something 'better' to do lol you have to take your hat off to CCP they managed to **** eve up in a really short time. and as for skater girl, incarna is coming wanna put a bet down how many patches we will see then? lol
loesje knappert	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:18:00 - [75] atleast they fix things seen games getting patched and bugged for life and nothing from the programmers to come up with fixes just making money and sit and watch. so why cry over extended downtime it is there for you in the end the customer. and try to take a walk in the park daylight might do everyone well
Florestan Bronstein draketrain Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:20:00 - [76] Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara What about the hard limit of 50 server-side fittings?
Nonamanadus	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:25:00 - [77] Just think by the time all the bugs and patches are done we will get INCARNA (coming June 21st). Wonder if it's features will double the downtime. Downtime sucks, it ****es people off. So can you be more carefull sending out updateds as I know of a few people who's computers were having graphics issues after this last stint.
Miilla Minmatar Hulkageddon Orphanage	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:26:00 - [78] Where is the SIZE of the patch in the patch notes? You said that all new patch notes would include the size.
maximus sotar	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:28:00 - [79] Fix drone drops.. and add drone hauler spawns..make drone mins easier to refine, so we don't have to train 100days of skills. Industry aint my thing. Fix things that needed fixing years ago. Drone regions suck ass for 0.0 space. empire on par.
GiveYourStuff	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:29:00 - [80] Originally by: Miilla Where is the SIZE of the patch in the patch notes? You said that all new patch notes would include the size. The patch is being compiled and they dont know its size yet.
Joanna Houghton	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:30:00 - [81] this takes the **** a patch to fix a patch.....whats the point in having test servers.... im soo close to quitting this game. as all im doing is paying for downtime. as my main game time is at dinner. you have let me down ccp
maximus sotar	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:33:00 - [82] Originally by: Joanna Houghton this takes the **** a patch to fix a patch.....whats the point in having test servers.... im soo close to quitting this game. as all im doing is paying for downtime. as my main game time is at dinner. you have let me down ccp + + + Same boat Joanna.. and when the server is up, im at work... come home and its DT.. play time = destroyed, CCP Places an excellent hit on you wallet causing $30 a month damage.
Navetse Sasen Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:35:00 - [83] If all people posting in foruns that they will quit playing EVE actually did that, there would be a negative number of players in eve.
Nankeen Heron	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:37:00 - [84] Originally by: Assimil8r Is this going to fix (aka remove) Guristas permajam capability? +1; where do I vote?
000Freedom Fighter000	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:37:00 - [85] Still. Cant. Set. Overview. To. Show. War. Targets. Only.
Krystyn Caldari Serenity Rising LLC Slammer's Republic	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:39:00 - [86] Any chance we can alternate downtimes at all? With being in Korea now downtime is 8pm for me. Every time they have an extended downtime to patch is just one more day I don't even get the chance to play. With all the recent bugs...that is quite a bit of time...Starcraft II is free online and I'm getting better at it with so much time to play it lately...
Gibsie	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:40:00 - [87] Originally by: Navetse Sasen If all people posting in foruns that they will quit playing EVE actually did that, there would be a negative number of players in eve. This. So converting iskies (of all left accounts to PLEXes) should fund DUST 514 & even the fantasy-i-dont-want-to-remember-name MMO ...
Zagdul Gallente Shadowed Command Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:42:00 - [88] Edited by: Zagdul on 07/06/2011 11:42:55 Originally by: DarthNefarius I'm curious as to what genius decided to "fix" the fleet broadcast window so know you don't know who is broadcasting targets? Not only does it make it impossible to anylonger have multiple callers (long range & short range ) now any one whom joins a large fleet can easily grief & not be booted because we don't know who is cluttering up the broadcast window :( Please default to show broadcasts and not "all". Then make it remember what we select.
Juggalo Stazz	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:43:00 - [89] I am not liking this new game dynamic in eve, "Weekly Extended DT". put in a patch that will get rid of this maybe? and maybe in the next patch you will fix the issue that Dust-514 is PS3 Exclusive.
Thunder Wind	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:45:00 - [90] I will say again... i still feel it would only be right that since we pay a certain fee for the game per month, and since downtimes will happen, that any downtime should be added to everyones account. example if the servers are down for one hour, then one hour is added before payment do. one day and so on. since they manage our game time up to the minute anyway, it would be a reasonable way to show they care about our downtime as well. yes/no??
The Qemist	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:46:00 - [91] Rorqual bugs fixed too? I dont see it in the notes. It just splits into pieces when in deployed mode and it just reverses on zooming out just a little and stays that way. Engines on the wrong side and such. Thanks for fixing but would be great to see things getting tested before launching? Dont be like Microsoft..
Egg McMuff	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:48:00 - [92] great stuff - really looking forward to this downtime. Good luck CCP getting it back up online. Wonder if the bookies will let me put on a bet
Gainard	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:48:00 - [93] One thing that annoyes me is the scheduled updates are not scheduled at all. There is a big message every time about June 21. How about replacing this with the NEXT upcomming extended downtime / update? I already lost almost one full day of training as I could not log in when incursion 1.6 was deployed and did not start training a long time skill before that. Now again an unscheduled downtime for 1.6.1. I want to play the game and not waste my time searching the forum for possible updates / extended downtimes And I said: Pirates? What pirates would be interested in the few rocks I have mined? 3 Minutes later I was warping back to station - in my egg...
CPL Madison	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:48:00 - [94] is this patch going to fix our jump bridges in tribute? :) also will it remove those nasty russians?
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:48:00 - [95] well nothing new to see there... in 14 days new patch and then several weeks of fix.patching... and then at least an year of easy street. As i say nothing new there.... Just hope it will come up sooner then in 1day and 5 hours... since i didnt knew there will be an extended DT today. Well my bad, i ll deal with it.
Anxiir Black Rebel Rifter Club	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:49:00 - [96] Originally by: 000Freedom Fighter000 Still. Cant. Set. Overview. To. Show. War. Targets. Only. Has that ever worked? I don't think I have ever been able to get WTs only to show.
Lex Avril	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:50:00 - [97] a word at this place to CCP even when wrong topic it's been asked again and again by players, and would really be a small nice helping feature to alot players: - could you please place a CLOCK with the actual EVE TIME on the LOGINSCREEN? I don't know why you're keep going to ignore this, really. pretty please with a cherry on the top thx
Coolmer	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:51:00 - [98] Is there any possibility to be more play time then downtime? This is really funny .... BTW. IMHO INCARNA is no worthless patching, time consuming "WASD" moving, I saw somthing of that on singularty server and it sucks, it looks to me like COSMO+WoW with that suck'n gadgets for AUR, omg It's time for CCP to rename game in EVE Barbie ...
Juggalo Stazz	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:52:00 - [99] Originally by: Thunder Wind I will say again... i still feel it would only be right that since we pay a certain fee for the game per month, and since downtimes will happen, that any downtime should be added to everyones account. example if the servers are down for one hour, then one hour is added before payment do. one day and so on. since they manage our game time up to the minute anyway, it would be a reasonable way to show they care about our downtime as well. yes/no?? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Incubus Sukkubus Amarr Nth Dimension	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:53:00 - [100] Edited by: Incubus Sukkubus on 07/06/2011 11:54:26 Lets all hope that everything you broke is fixed. What has been failed to be noticed is, if we had bought this game in a store and got it home like this we would have rightfully taken it back and asked for our money back. For 8 days now we have been having suffering the problems with Eve and trying to make the best of it. Do you think you have treated us good enough, CCP?
Honorson	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:55:00 - [101] btw as for reference blaming CCp for crashes They are a company selling software to use and we kindly buy gametime ie rent their software 1. with each additional resource added to eve there is the possibility of causing problems with user pc setups and hardware 2. Q&A or testing omg how narrowminded some people are... 2.a How many CPU speeds/cores are there/ Variations in ram Speed size / harddrive access times RPM / audiodrivers /Gfx drivers 2.b there are billions of possible pc/hardware setups EVE wouldnt even be a demo if it was testing against all possible kits. There is one answer keep up with Tech stop trying to budget build pc's and give DEV's the good tools to work with 3. but also backwards flying TECH III omg someone should get a slap for that one :)
Coolmer	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:56:00 - [102] Originally by: Juggalo Stazz Originally by: Thunder Wind I will say again... i still feel it would only be right that since we pay a certain fee for the game per month, and since downtimes will happen, that any downtime should be added to everyones account. example if the servers are down for one hour, then one hour is added before payment do. one day and so on. since they manage our game time up to the minute anyway, it would be a reasonable way to show they care about our downtime as well. yes/no?? YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This will be very nice, because that what they do is stealing ...
Sinxar	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:56:00 - [103] Edited by: Sinxar on 07/06/2011 11:56:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q
Demtri smakinoff	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:56:00 - [104] O come on ! i just got used to flying my loki backwards :( ...
Mikal Tylar Caldari Super Friends Club	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:58:00 - [105] I see a lot of the more irritating bugs being patched, but I would also really appreciate it if CCP were to terminate the employment (and possibly the life) of whoever decided the capacitor should get dimmer as it is depleted. Because it's a stupid idea and counter-intuitive in every way imaginable. Thanks in advance.
Lexxxii	Posted - 2011.06.07 11:59:00 - [106] Originally by: Anxiir Originally by: 000Freedom Fighter000 Still. Cant. Set. Overview. To. Show. War. Targets. Only. I can, and have done for ages....
Lex Avril	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:00:00 - [107] Originally by: Demtri smakinoff O come on ! i just got used to flying my loki backwards :( ... opens an opportunity for a skill 'backwards parking of the ship into station', could decrease undocking delay by 10% for each level

CCP Bella Bee	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:00:00 - [108] Originally by: Lex Avril a word at this place to CCP even when wrong topic it's been asked again and again by players, and would really be a small nice helping feature to alot players: - could you please place a CLOCK with the actual EVE TIME on the LOGINSCREEN? I don't know why you're keep going to ignore this, really. pretty please with a cherry on the top thx I'll see what I can do

Oya Mando	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:02:00 - [109] I think, the general"Nerve wrecking"-part stems from the update policy, Not the patches themselves. Earlier, CCP released expansions every 6 months, of course, they were bugged and needed fixing as well.(Which for the most part has been dealt with in a month or so). The players had time to adapt to bugs, and when known,possibly avoid them.(or exploit them). Now, (with the new update schedule) those bugs come at a much faster pace. Adapting to it is almost impossible."Extensive" search for them is not my job,i am a paying player, not a paid tester.And it completly baffles me, that CCP can't find a bug,in 2 weeks, that a player needs 3 seconds to find(like tech 3 ships going backwards or sliders in overview turn almost invisible,or the capacitor becoming unreadable against bright backgrounds).Those were visible, only by using the "Undock"-button. Not to mention, that those prolonged DT's.(which also occur more often now), cut into Gametime.On top of that, the announcements of planned (prolonged)DT come very late. (this one had its "official" announcement yesterday, and had incorrect starting time). I could have finished the skill i was training,as it would have finished at around 10:47 UTC,but since the announcement said "starting 9:30 UTC", i had :sigh,AGAIN, to adjust my skill queue.Which (of course:AGAIN)i first had to buy the skillbook for(Again).It is not a big thing really, but this happened to me a lot lately.Out of the last 7-8 patches,i only managed to avoid skill complications ONCE. This all adds up to the general "CCP is FAIL"-bitterness amongst players. It is all about communication CCP, and i know, for a 100% fact, you have heard that many times (and years) before.But there is a difference, between hearing something, and Listening to it.
Tatiana Nixx	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:02:00 - [110] I pulled my Ctrl keys off my keyboard. I cleaned the sockets and the keys, reinserted them. I took my keyboard apart, cleaned all surfaces inside and out. I beat the **** out my keyboard... I almost broke it. I did break other stuff. I broke some more stuff. I put the keyboard down and walked away. I stopped spending on some important stuff to buy a new keyboard. I was going to buy a new keyboard tomarrow. Luckily I found this thread. F'ING CCP DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH GREIFE YOU CAUSED? Do you care? I doubt it. Three paid accounts. Maybe zero paid accounts soon. Incarna June 21. Crap, I don't have enough patience left for all the "patches" and "patched patches", and "patched - patched patches" ad nauseim. The only thing you have going for you is the freindships I have developed and am not willing to walk away from... yet. Keep f'ing up the game and it won't be worth the GREIF. CCP = Worst greifer in the game.
flapie 2 Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:03:00 - [111] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Lex Avril a word at this place to CCP even when wrong topic it's been asked again and again by players, and would really be a small nice helping feature to alot players: - could you please place a CLOCK with the actual EVE TIME on the LOGINSCREEN? I don't know why you're keep going to ignore this, really. pretty please with a cherry on the top thx I'll see what I can do I would be atleast as greatfull to you, as to the person whom made drones dmg a combat log entry Good fixes this time CCP, keep it up and try to keep em out of the next patch ty.
Shaun Mathis	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:04:00 - [112] saw some one talk about getting an hours worth of cash or how ever long back for down times. i say we get however longs worth of SP =) you can keep my money just gimmi the free SP
Magic Crisp Minmatar	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:05:00 - [113] We have also experienced the following issues, which weren't mentioned in the patch notes: - Mouseovering bookmarks in solar system map view doesn't show their labels - Sometimes when changing tabs on the market window, it slides apart (I don't have a screenshow), and becomes unuseable. Re-opening it fixes it for a while - While docked at the stations the clients are eating far more CPU/GPU than they do in space - Selecting a station for a market order has the focus on the OK button in the station selection window, and it should be where it was prior to this CarbonUI patch, in the input box for typing - Sometimes the inspace HUD freezes, the ship is not rendered, can't rotate the viewpoint, can't do anything with control, changing to map/PI mode and back doesn't help, have to relog for that - Default ordering direction of columns in enforced. Like the log's timestamp ordering is _always_ on oldest-to-newest(up-to-bottom), regardless I always set it to newest-to-oldest. - The log window never stays open across relogs, it used to stay open whenever we've opened it. So far that's all I can remember, but sure there're a few i've missed. So, when can we expect a patch also for these issues (to get us back to where we were before this 1.6 carbon thingie, in functionality, err, forward!) that won't break already fixed features?
Navetse Sasen Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:06:00 - [114] Gotta remember something: The day CCP gets the degree of "professionalism" people demand, EVE will get the degree of professionalism you guys hate in other MMOs. We start by the basics: - If professionals were deciding about downtimes and server-side issues, they would instance EVE servers, both eliminating "EVE 100% downtime" if they wanted, and cutting costs. Goodbye "EVE is one universe for all players". - If professionals were deciding about expansion/patches ratio, they would tend to tedious content expanded once or twice per year, if that much, to have less bugs to take care of. Also would limit more the numbers of choices players have in following skill progress, gameplay, and so on, because professionals know that allowing users that kind of freedom is a PITA, because: THEY COMPLAIN about the things they want being done or being allowed to be done. - If professionals were deciding the dinamics of the game, they would never allow ISK conversion from real money or ISK bought gametime, because it is just not professional. - IF professionals were deciding the way the players are handled, they wouldnt mind at all to make a dumb smashing keyboard game because if half of the world's population died, there will be still more than half its population compoosed of stupid people who likes to play games where you dont need to think. I like the passionate way EVE is done, and to see that the enthusiasm CCP put in EVE makes it sometimes crappy, but still let it be the unique MMO it is. The day CCP start to be the level of professional MMO developer major TV advertising MMO developers are, is the day it will be the same crap those are. When EVE have no more incidental bugs from new features, no single feature deployed prematurely, and no "lets try this and see where it goes", and, EVE has Jean-Claude Camille Frantois Van Varenberg advertising in the TV "Je suis le capsule pilote ...", then it isnt EVE anymore.
Jon Sinmarr	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:06:00 - [115] Go CCP Go make them hamsters run faster I need to blow stuff up LOL http://media.photobucket.com/image/hamsters/elfwid/random/hamster_001.jpg Ever wanted to know what the CCP Hamsters look like check out the link
Eraggan Sadarr	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:06:00 - [116] Why do i end up in the [Fleet finder] tab, when i join a new fleet? Do i really need to find a fleet then?? Fix it please... Eve Market Scanner - Marketlog comparisons
Thunder Wind	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:09:00 - [117] I see GM's are monitoring the board at the moment. Just a question here... Im not angry and i understand fixes will need to take place from time to time. But... Do you think it would be possible and also show a great care and concern on CCP's part to maybe add a credit time feature in your systems to add an hour or more to match the downtime to show all the players that you do understand and here is your time we had you down back? I of course really dont agree with gimme this or gimme that, like is and skills. But our TIME, and your downtime i dont think is an unreasonable request. What do you think? Thanks for listening...
Alex HolyAmarr	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:09:00 - [118] Patience and only patience ...
Mikal Tylar Caldari Super Friends Club	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:10:00 - [119] Originally by: Navetse Sasen Gotta remember something: The day CCP gets the degree of "professionalism" people demand, EVE will get the degree of professionalism you guys hate in other MMOs. We start by the basics: - If professionals were deciding about downtimes and server-side issues, they would instance EVE servers, both eliminating "EVE 100% downtime" if they wanted, and cutting costs. Goodbye "EVE is one universe for all players". - If professionals were deciding about expansion/patches ratio, they would tend to tedious content expanded once or twice per year, if that much, to have less bugs to take care of. Also would limit more the numbers of choices players have in following skill progress, gameplay, and so on, because professionals know that allowing users that kind of freedom is a PITA, because: THEY COMPLAIN about the things they want being done or being allowed to be done. - If professionals were deciding the dinamics of the game, they would never allow ISK conversion from real money or ISK bought gametime, because it is just not professional. - IF professionals were deciding the way the players are handled, they wouldnt mind at all to make a dumb smashing keyboard game because if half of the world's population died, there will be still more than half its population compoosed of stupid people who likes to play games where you dont need to think. I like the passionate way EVE is done, and to see that the enthusiasm CCP put in EVE makes it sometimes crappy, but still let it be the unique MMO it is. The day CCP start to be the level of professional MMO developer major TV advertising MMO developers are, is the day it will be the same crap those are. When EVE have no more incidental bugs from new features, no single feature deployed prematurely, and no "lets try this and see where it goes", and, EVE has Jean-Claude Camille Frantois Van Varenberg advertising in the TV "Je suis le capsule pilote ...", then it isnt EVE anymore. +1
maximus sotar	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:11:00 - [120] why not have 2 servers ?? and alternate between them in such a way DT and long patches are eliminated to the off-line server. so even with a cripple damaged eve we can still log in and PEW PEW
Coolmer	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:14:00 - [121] It is really annoying to press one shortcut 5 times to be accepted, 50x time my ship goes away without orbiting on locked ship, now i press it 5x times to be sure, drones too 55x times to press SHIFT-R to be accepted, interface is too slow, overwiev sometime has delay and showing ships what are wracked already in gray, wtf CCP are doing with game? And it will be nice to see local time in left corner where is EVE time, why is impossible to put there EVE time and local time? Many improvements it is important that stupid INCARNA and GADGETS ....
Gillaboo	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:14:00 - [122] Edited by: Gillaboo on 07/06/2011 12:15:06 Since devs are watching..... I would really like to see a simple clickable icon added to pilot portraits to indicate "AFK" status, at least in some channels such as Corp channels, private convo's and private channels. I believe something to this effect actually ranked reasonably high in that last "open source" poll that the CSM conducted... thank you.
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:17:00 - [123] Originally by: Coolmer scratch And it will be nice to see local time in left corner where is EVE time, why is impossible to put there EVE time and local time? Is it hard to take the EVE time and then +/- "number" to get local time ? "number" changes only once per year or is it twice ...nevermind... Anyway its glorious to see same comments over and over again every downtime... "Cant go out because its sunny and i hate sunny days. "
Shaun Mathis	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:19:00 - [124] ok i pushed connect now yall accept me so i can play yes?
FoXEric	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:20:00 - [125] Originally by: Navetse Sasen Gotta remember something: The day CCP gets the degree of "professionalism" people demand, EVE will get the degree of professionalism you guys hate in other MMOs. We start by the basics: - If professionals were deciding about downtimes and server-side issues, they would instance EVE servers, both eliminating "EVE 100% downtime" if they wanted, and cutting costs. Goodbye "EVE is one universe for all players". - If professionals were deciding about expansion/patches ratio, they would tend to tedious content expanded once or twice per year, if that much, to have less bugs to take care of. Also would limit more the numbers of choices players have in following skill progress, gameplay, and so on, because professionals know that allowing users that kind of freedom is a PITA, because: THEY COMPLAIN about the things they want being done or being allowed to be done. - If professionals were deciding the dinamics of the game, they would never allow ISK conversion from real money or ISK bought gametime, because it is just not professional. - IF professionals were deciding the way the players are handled, they wouldnt mind at all to make a dumb smashing keyboard game because if half of the world's population died, there will be still more than half its population compoosed of stupid people who likes to play games where you dont need to think. I like the passionate way EVE is done, and to see that the enthusiasm CCP put in EVE makes it sometimes crappy, but still let it be the unique MMO it is. The day CCP start to be the level of professional MMO developer major TV advertising MMO developers are, is the day it will be the same crap those are. When EVE have no more incidental bugs from new features, no single feature deployed prematurely, and no "lets try this and see where it goes", and, EVE has Jean-Claude Camille Frantois Van Varenberg advertising in the TV "Je suis le capsule pilote ...", then it isnt EVE anymore. agree.
Coolmer	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:21:00 - [126] Screenshots when is saved it will be nice to use JPEG or PNG container not space consumed BMP (BMP i thnik dies with win 3.1 and 386DX) :P
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:24:00 - [127] Originally by: Coolmer Screenshots when is saved it will be nice to use JPEG or PNG container not space consumed BMP (BMP i thnik dies with win 3.1 and 386DX) :P compresion degenarte quality... anyway it would be problem on 386DX with it current HDD storage space... But now everyone got 1+teraB space ... I love when on down time everyone makes some issue .. seriously... i should stop reading or rather log out .. since i repeating myself.. Sorry of inconvinence to see me twice on the page...
Jebus Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:25:00 - [128] Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Lex Avril a word at this place to CCP even when wrong topic it's been asked again and again by players, and would really be a small nice helping feature to alot players: - could you please place a CLOCK with the actual EVE TIME on the LOGINSCREEN? I don't know why you're keep going to ignore this, really. pretty please with a cherry on the top thx I'll see what I can do Cripes! Don't do that - it will take CCP at least a year and 20 patches to undo the damage caused by that UI change!
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:27:00 - [129] Originally by: Hakaru Ishiwara Originally by: Das Arius The "Ghost" issue is related to the sticky-ctrl issue. Theoretically fixing that will alleviate this problem. Oh, interesting. I was unaware of the relationship. The odd thing is that I saw very little ghosting on my PvP toon (that experiences a ton of CTRL-clicking) and moreso on the alt that is not involved in any CTRL-clicking activities. Anyways, time will tell on the fix. It should also fix the approach issue for alt-tabbers. If the alt key sticks then when you alt-tab back to your other player then you have a 'stuck alt key' + one mouse click = approach. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Hauler Yrrab	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:28:00 - [130] Go go CCP....thank you for the patch. Keep up the good work. Maybe more WoW will leave and we can get back to the great game this was before they came.
Jebus Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:30:00 - [131] Originally by: Hauler Yrrab Go go CCP....thank you for the patch. Keep up the good work. Maybe more WoW will leave and we can get back to the great game this was before they came. When someone leaves Eve for WoW, it raises the average player intelligence of both games.
Coolmer	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:30:00 - [132] Edited by: Coolmer on 07/06/2011 12:34:20 Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted Originally by: Coolmer Screenshots when is saved it will be nice to use JPEG or PNG container not space consumed BMP (BMP i thnik dies with win 3.1 and 386DX) :P compresion degenarte quality... anyway it would be problem on 386DX with it current HDD storage space... But now everyone got 1+teraB space ... I love when on down time everyone makes some issue .. seriously... i should stop reading or rather log out .. since i repeating myself.. Sorry of inconvinence to see me twice on the page... loool in PNG? really u make me laugh It will be nice to have choice for ppl like u who makes posters from ss ... :P Put some options for TIFF/96-bit because HDR, poster will be better and i will buy for that brand new 1TB
The Sarj	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:35:00 - [133] please please please please fix the ever jamming guristas so I can fight them with joy instead of regret thank you
Gibsie	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:35:00 - [134] Originally by: Jebus Gallente Originally by: Hauler Yrrab When someone leaves Eve for WoW, it raises the average player intelligence of both games. CCP started this war ... Well ... Uh ? Infomercial
non judgement	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:35:00 - [135] I kind of liked the ctrl sticking and locking ships then pressing ctrl again to stop locking ships thing. didn't have any other problems. except moving items from my ships cargo bay moved the cargo bay window as well. lol I like paying for updates to a nice game. Thanks for updating it I don't mind downtimes either cause I know we need them. even tho it's during my primetime.
Shimmy Wiggle	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:38:00 - [136] If suggestions are being taken from here, I'd really like to see DT start moved by half an hour per day every day, so the affect can hit everyone equally. In forty-eight days, you're back where you were. The double-server idea gets my thumbs up, though - could minimise DT. Other than that, I like the look of this update. If it's not apparent, I do like the work the devs do on this game. As to the rap video, that's one of the funniest things I've seen in a while. Shimmy Wiggle
War Kitten Panda McLegion	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:39:00 - [137] Edited by: War Kitten on 07/06/2011 12:40:20 Originally by: non judgement I kind of liked the ctrl sticking and locking ships then pressing ctrl again to stop locking ships thing. Um yeah, because holding the ctrl-key down was hard. Plus it was a great benefit to ctrl-click a target then try and orbit a gate and get a bonus lock on the stargate. It's very handy to randomly target structures you don't want to shoot at. /facepalm Here's hoping they at least fixed the ctrl-key to work like a meta key again too instead of having to lift it and re-press it for every different hotkey it is assigned to. "Here's your sign..."
Zeta Kalin Large Rodent Hunters	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:39:00 - [138] Originally by: DarthNefarius I'm curious as to what genius decided to "fix" the fleet broadcast window so know you don't know who is broadcasting targets? Not only does it make it impossible to anylonger have multiple callers (long range & short range ) now any one whom joins a large fleet can easily grief & not be booted because we don't know who is cluttering up the broadcast window :( I would like to "like" this post, but those forums don't permit it, so I'll quote it instead.
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:41:00 - [139] Originally by: Honorson btw as for reference blaming CCp for crashes They are a company selling software to use and we kindly buy gametime ie rent their software 1. with each additional resource added to eve there is the possibility of causing problems with user pc setups and hardware 2. Q&A or testing omg how narrowminded some people are... 2.a How many CPU speeds/cores are there/ Variations in ram Speed size / harddrive access times RPM / audiodrivers /Gfx drivers 2.b there are billions of possible pc/hardware setups EVE wouldnt even be a demo if it was testing against all possible kits. There is one answer keep up with Tech stop trying to budget build pc's and give DEV's the good tools to work with 3. but also backwards flying TECH III omg someone should get a slap for that one :) I get it now. Everyone's computers went to **** during patch time. It's not CCP's fault at all. In the rest of the software world: Installing something that breaks your computer/application is followed by an uninstall. I'm still waiting for CCP to replace my GeForce 7950GS that they blew up years ago with bad graphic programming. A fault that they admiited to on the forum. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
ZZippie	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:42:00 - [140] far extended downtime again, well... have skill on for a month so its ok...
Assaj Ventress	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:42:00 - [141] Originally by: i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY Originally by: Dnai Hsrang I don't see the issue below in the patch notes. Several other users have confirmed this is an issue. Please advise when it will be corrected. Issue: Unable to click on Bookmarks and sites (w-space) in the solar system map. Hovering over BM does not display the name assigned to the bookmark or site (w-space). You are still able to right click a bookmark or site and warp to it but you don't know which one you are warping to. Gonna fix this or what? +1 -----------------
Wintrparkgrl	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:43:00 - [142] Originally by: Juggalo Stazz I am not liking this new game dynamic in eve, "Weekly Extended DT". put in a patch that will get rid of this maybe? and maybe in the next patch you will fix the issue that Dust-514 is PS3 Exclusive. +1 with all the hacking going on on psn I will never play Dust on my ps3
Damion Dark	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:43:00 - [143] Originally by: DmitryEKT IBC! Only 2 main things I want fixed that 1.6 broke: -brackets visible in space again -ctrl not sticking anymore the rest is just fluff ya but ive been told the ctrl key working as a sticky key is an intended change which if thats the case and you cant turn it off from being a sticky key .. bye bye eve ..... I so hope that it is wrong ..but i had to uninstall last patch just to be able to play cause of that ctrl bull...anyways tired of the constant patches and downtime this is what first made me want to leave several other mmo's
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:44:00 - [144] Originally by: non judgement I kind of liked the ctrl sticking and locking ships then pressing ctrl again to stop locking ships thing. didn't have any other problems. except moving items from my ships cargo bay moved the cargo bay window as well. lol I like paying for updates to a nice game. Thanks for updating it I don't mind downtimes either cause I know we need them. even tho it's during my primetime. well imagine an situation .. playing on three LCDs five accounts... you click there click here use ctrl to target something.. then somehow it stickes at your toon in machariel you press F1-F4 guns then do stuff elsewhere then you click on station, and you allready put never show it again.. boom CONCORDED... not that awesome feature. Nearly get Concorded.. As for other things.. yep at least i get some rest.
Licinius CrassusFilius Space Construction and Research	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:45:00 - [145] Originally by: Sarah Steelringer DISCRIMINATION AGAINST INTERNATIONAL EVE PLAYERS Enough said, time to stagger the downtimes? Always at primetime for some players.. Not that CCP give a f.. Stop whining. What is International, everyone outside Iceland? So the U.S., European, African, Middle Eastern players are all being discriminated against. Downtime is placed to minimise disruption to the majority of EVE players. I presume you are an Australian or NZ player and so will represent a tiny proportion of players. Get over it. Before you ask, yes I'm Australian as well. I just don't have an infantile attitude.
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:45:00 - [146] Originally by: Assaj Ventress Originally by: i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY Originally by: Dnai Hsrang I don't see the issue below in the patch notes. Several other users have confirmed this is an issue. Please advise when it will be corrected. Issue: Unable to click on Bookmarks and sites (w-space) in the solar system map. Hovering over BM does not display the name assigned to the bookmark or site (w-space). You are still able to right click a bookmark or site and warp to it but you don't know which one you are warping to. Gonna fix this or what? +1 I was just about to post the exact same thing. I bug reported this and the response was that the issue is known. I had expected a fix for this in 1.6.1. Why is it not there? Bad, bad CCP.
Makari Aeron	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:46:00 - [147] I dunno what yall are complaining about for the "more than one account crash" or "alt-tab crash". I run 3 accounts, 2 minimized for the majority of the time, on a gaming laptop and I have no problems. Glad to see the keys no longer being stuck. It sucked to accidentally click on a fleetmate while Control was bugged.
Joy Duck	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:49:00 - [148] Total noob here. Picked up Eve to play in my work breaks and for the last four weeks there has been major down time every other day. Servers still responding "The cluster is not currently accepting connections". Am I being impatient, or is Eve going through a rough patch?
HellSyndrome	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:49:00 - [149] I hate long Downtime....i live in AUS timezone so 11am server time is basically the prime time here.... does anyone know why did CCP choose 11:00am as the start of downtime??not 10 or 9 or some other times???
Beamara	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:51:00 - [150] Originally by: Makari Aeron I dunno what yall are complaining about for the "more than one account crash" or "alt-tab crash". I run 3 accounts, 2 minimized for the majority of the time, on a gaming laptop and I have no problems. Glad to see the keys no longer being stuck. It sucked to accidentally click on a fleetmate while Control was bugged. OK total noob question: how do I minimize Eve? What key or keys? TY
Ron Ton	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:51:00 - [151] Originally by: Thunder Wind I will say again... i still feel it would only be right that since we pay a certain fee for the game per month, and since downtimes will happen, that any downtime should be added to everyones account. example if the servers are down for one hour, then one hour is added before payment do. one day and so on. since they manage our game time up to the minute anyway, it would be a reasonable way to show they care about our downtime as well. yes/no?? +1 hell ya this would be great!
superfoxie2	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:51:00 - [152] I hope this fix the corp standings to !!
non judgement	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:52:00 - [153] Originally by: Joy Duck Total noob here. Picked up Eve to play in my work breaks and for the last four weeks there has been major down time every other day. Servers still responding "The cluster is not currently accepting connections". Am I being impatient, or is Eve going through a rough patch? It's sort of a rough patch.. its not always like this.
Hydraka	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:53:00 - [154] Originally by: HellSyndrome I hate long Downtime....i live in AUS timezone so 11am server time is basically the prime time here.... does anyone know why did CCP choose 11:00am as the start of downtime??not 10 or 9 or some other times??? Second patch in 2 weeks on my only free afternoon starting at the exact time I get home. Some people have to get screwed, right? As for a non-troll response, the servers are in London, it's hamster work hours at 11 am.
Seeagle	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:54:00 - [155] You guys area amazing. You complain at the slightest thing that goes wrong with this game. You guys dont understand that there are TRILLIONS(1,000,000,000,000) lines of code, millions (1,000,000) of variables and you thing a little error is the end of the world. Get a grip and give these guys time to fix the little error that pop up from time to time while they improve a game that is this epic... My God what a bunch of little whiners you guys are. If you cant stand a little glich while they fiz great game you should go get a life that does not involve computers. enough said
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:54:00 - [156] You guys do an awful lot of whining, complaining and bad-mouthing the devs of this game. You pay an insignificant amount of money to play this game unlimited time each day for 30 days. If they didn't patch the game and update it and make new things, you'd complain about being bored with the same old stuff every day, or whine about how they just don't care enough to make the game better. When they do make new things and try to update and fix things, you complain every single time something unexpected occurs and then fuss when they have to take things offline to fix it and then complain even more if they don't get it right the first time and then whine again when they have to try to fix it a second time and then spend the entire downtime badmouthing and complaining about every little thing and being a bunch of completely ungrateful pricks about everything. Trying to code and debug a game as large as EVE Online isn't easy. If you think it is, try coding, debugging and maintaining your own 35,000+ player servers all day every day and having to pay attention to all of the feedback from those 35,000+ players every single time there is even the slightest hiccup. Seriously. Shut up, sit down and be thankful CCP is working as fast as they can to make everything perfect in your little world. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:54:00 - [157] Originally by: Gillaboo Edited by: Gillaboo on 07/06/2011 12:15:06 Since devs are watching..... I would really like to see a simple clickable icon added to pilot portraits to indicate "AFK" status, at least in some channels such as Corp channels, private convo's and private channels. I believe something to this effect actually ranked reasonably high in that last "open source" poll that the CSM conducted... thank you. That used to be called the "Watch List". Something that was horribly pared down over a year ago along with folders in the contact list. Many *****ed when the folders were eliminated and the maximum number of watched players was dropped to 300. A corp or alliance that was serious about intelligence lost everything on the day that change occurred. Possible war targets, actual war targets, friend, etc. could be watched with their names placed in folders named after the corp/alliance or any name that was convenient. I myself had over 150 folders with the names of known ISK farmer corps. In each folder were the known members, spies and any friendlies to the corp. The day of the change I logged in to find all players now sorted by standing and the watchlist/contact list size maxed out at 300. My 6100 entries were now arranged in 145 pages of names sorted alphabetically. Only the latest war targets were easy to find as I still had a list in notepad. Many larger corporations and alliances screamed at this change but, much like the saved fitting nerf, probe nerf, etc. etc. this had to be an attempt to pare down the database and keep it manageable. My contact list remains stuck at about at 5500+ as there is no easy way to export the list or resort it by corp. Currently I've devolved to recording notes in the player's info tab until something better comes along or CCP nerfs the info tab (next patch I'm sure.) {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Alrog07	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:55:00 - [158] Originally by: i5L4NDOF5T4BiLiTY Originally by: Dnai Hsrang I don't see the issue below in the patch notes. Several other users have confirmed this is an issue. Please advise when it will be corrected. Issue: Unable to click on Bookmarks and sites (w-space) in the solar system map. Hovering over BM does not display the name assigned to the bookmark or site (w-space). You are still able to right click a bookmark or site and warp to it but you don't know which one you are warping to. Gonna fix this or what? +1
Shahni Munba	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:55:00 - [159] Originally by: Seeagle You guys area amazing. You complain at the slightest thing that goes wrong with this game. You guys dont understand that there are TRILLIONS(1,000,000,000,000) lines of code, millions (1,000,000) of variables and you thing a little error is the end of the world. Get a grip and give these guys time to fix the little error that pop up from time to time while they improve a game that is this epic... My God what a bunch of little whiners you guys are. If you cant stand a little glich while they fiz great game you should go get a life that does not involve computers. enough said likes {Y}
Kerppe Krulli	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:56:00 - [160] Originally by: Seeagle little error that pop up from time to time That is the FUNNIEST thing I've read on the forums in a while, made my day!
Hitch Aubrey	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:56:00 - [161] Obviously these guys got together with Blizzard so they could both have extended maintenance on the same night (being in a +10 timezone, both land smack in the middle of our evening).
Thunder Wind	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:56:00 - [162] Originally by: Makari Aeron I dunno what yall are complaining about for the "more than one account crash" or "alt-tab crash". I run 3 accounts, 2 minimized for the majority of the time, on a gaming laptop and I have no problems. Glad to see the keys no longer being stuck. It sucked to accidentally click on a fleetmate while Control was bugged. I also run 3 on my laptop, a laptop that is several years old in fact. I cant say i have any issues as well.
Seeagle	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:57:00 - [163] Sorry for the typos and for **ing off the guys who aren't complaining but pointing out things, but you whiners andy ou know who you are, ** off.
ZaGaNoRiX	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:57:00 - [164] Now we got whinning about people whining why dont you all shut up and be a little more TOLERENT.
Billy Kayn	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:57:00 - [165] Originally by: Seeagle You guys area amazing. You complain at the slightest thing that goes wrong with this game. You guys dont understand that there are TRILLIONS(1,000,000,000,000) lines of code, millions (1,000,000) of variables and you thing a little error is the end of the world. Get a grip and give these guys time to fix the little error that pop up from time to time while they improve a game that is this epic... My God what a bunch of little whiners you guys are. If you cant stand a little glich while they fiz great game you should go get a life that does not involve computers. i can see their point tho...they posted a time that this game is suppose to be up..if they cant hit their deadline why post a time at all...also they are paying to play the game.... enough said
Thunder Wind	Posted - 2011.06.07 12:58:00 - [166] Originally by: Seeagle Sorry for the typos and for **ing off the guys who aren't complaining but pointing out things, but you whiners andy ou know who you are, ** off. She is HOT therfore i agree with her... haha
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:00:00 - [167] Originally by: Seeagle Sorry for the typos and for **ing off the guys who aren't complaining but pointing out things, but you whiners andy ou know who you are, ** off. lighten up ... DT discussion is allways about refunds and some other stuff .. Ussually whining.. but its good to be there... waiting for servers to get online. And waiting for some great jokes about hamsters etc.
Shahni Munba	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:00:00 - [168] Great now we have whiners that complain about CCP and whiners that complain about whiners. Who's gonna whine at them now?! Guess that'll be me... Can we please keep the amount of whine posts down for gods sake
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:01:00 - [169] Originally by: ZaGaNoRiX Now we got whinning about people whining why dont you all shut up and be a little more TOLERENT. tolerance - 5 dictionary results tol+er+ance [tol-er-uhns] Show IPA ûnoun 1. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own; freedom from bigotry. 2. a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions and practices that differ from one's own. 3. interest in and concern for ideas, opinions, practices, etc., foreign to one's own; a liberal, undogmatic viewpoint. Fair, objective and permissive - I'd say that most people have been more than tolerant, and CCP certainly has when it comes to the amount of trash being spewed on these forums most of the time. Being fair involves knowing there's a limit. Being objective means knowing when comments and suggestions are no longer constructive but rather destructive. Being permissive means allowing people to voice their opinions. We've been and done all of those things, regularly. --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Seeagle	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:01:00 - [170] Originally by: ZaGaNoRiX Now we got whinning about people whining why dont you all shut up and be a little more TOLERENT. Have you not read this forum....I dont ever read forums and dont reply but the whiners like you need to give CCp a break.
rape yourass	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:01:00 - [171] Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted Originally by: Seeagle Sorry for the typos and for **ing off the guys who aren't complaining but pointing out things, but you whiners andy ou know who you are, ** off. lighten up ... DT discussion is allways about refunds and some other stuff .. Ussually whining.. but its good to be there... waiting for servers to get online. And waiting for some great jokes about hamsters etc. OOH.. i like HAMSTERS :)
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:01:00 - [172] Originally by: Hydraka Originally by: HellSyndrome I hate long Downtime....i live in AUS timezone so 11am server time is basically the prime time here.... does anyone know why did CCP choose 11:00am as the start of downtime??not 10 or 9 or some other times??? Second patch in 2 weeks on my only free afternoon starting at the exact time I get home. Some people have to get screwed, right? As for a non-troll response, the servers are in London, it's hamster work hours at 11 am. There are a handful of dedicated players that CCP monitors. Log in time, log off time, hours played, hours AFK. They then correlate that information with easily searchable internet records to find the most inconvenient time to drop the server for extended/emergency downtime/patching. And I've noticed we have the same shift/days off when referenced to UTC. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Booster Rin	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:01:00 - [173] Oh shytt !! eve is back up !! time to Rock 'n' Roll !!
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:02:00 - [174] Originally by: Joy Duck Total noob here. Picked up Eve to play in my work breaks and for the last four weeks there has been major down time every other day. Servers still responding "The cluster is not currently accepting connections". Am I being impatient, or is Eve going through a rough patch? lol.. it is something we endure when ccp trys to make the game better.. they try to fix everything later. normal to have an extended downtime or 2 after a big patch but we have had some extra f up fun lately.
Orgas Mando	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:03:00 - [175] People requesting additional changes? You Mad? They can't even test what they already planned. I would like to get reimbursed for the broken PI,prolonged DT, and demand compensation for every frustrating bit of this game.(but i will be generous, and subtract the half year or so, where i had fun).So, after cautiously calculating, i come up with 136 million SP,and 1500 Dollars,you can pay in Titans or Nyxes, please send to:Marketbot Botillus, Jita IV-4,appartment 11/38 on the second floor right next to the "RMT-Inn"just shove them in the Letterbox and ring by holding ctrl-alt-delete.
non judgement	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:03:00 - [176] Edited by: non judgement on 07/06/2011 13:04:51 I'm getting a bit sick of the people who complain about others who complain about people who complain!!
Kayu ki	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:03:00 - [177] Originally by: necromaniac XIII Issue: Unable to click on Bookmarks and sites (w-space) in the solar system map. Hovering over BM does not display the name assigned to the bookmark or site (w-space). You are still able to right click a bookmark or site and warp to it but you don't know which one you are warping to. This is really annoying for updating Wormhole Bookmarks, its still not in patch notes either.
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:03:00 - [178] Originally by: Raze Valadeus Fail troll... Mathematically this equates to: Fail(1+troll). {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
agent vortex	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:05:00 - [179] Originally by: DmitryEKT IBC! Only 2 main things I want fixed that 1.6 broke: -brackets visible in space again -ctrl not sticking anymore the rest is just fluff totally agree really dont mind about a sun ray going in the wrong direction while station instapop me cause i targeted with a click on overwiev
nonameforyou	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:05:00 - [180] MAGE DPS LFG 10/25 RAID !! /w me !
isk4trade Caldari Cogitation Mining and Industrial Trading	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:05:00 - [181] Originally by: Sinxar Edited by: Sinxar on 07/06/2011 11:56:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q Oh MAN! ... You guys did a pretty damn good job and that was funneh and a half ! me ________________________________________________ I neither have nor will ever sell or buy ISK for real world money. My name merely implies that I TRADE (NOT SELL) ISK for goods and services.
ZaGaNoRiX	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:05:00 - [182] Originally by: Seeagle Originally by: ZaGaNoRiX Now we got whinning about people whining why dont you all shut up and be a little more TOLERENT. Have you not read this forum....I dont ever read forums and dont reply but the whiners like you need to give CCp a break. What a dorkk. If you dont reply why u repluing ****head.
Byas	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:06:00 - [183] Well... it's 14:05 UTC and still not able to log in... please give short explaination.
Jaroslav Unwanted	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:06:00 - [184] Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 07/06/2011 13:07:06 Originally by: nonameforyou MAGE DPS LFG 10/25 RAID !! /w me ! Can you respec. to support ? Its 13:00 EVE time +/- few minutes not 14:00 as for explenation to an guy above me.
Seeagle	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:06:00 - [185] I got a 32 druid...will that work??
Raze Valadeus Amarr Knighthood of the Merciful Crown	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:06:00 - [186] Originally by: Byas Well... it's 14:05 UTC and still not able to log in... please give short explaination. It's 13:06 currently... --------------- ~Raze Valadeus
Makari Aeron	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:07:00 - [187] Originally by: Beamara Originally by: Makari Aeron I dunno what yall are complaining about for the "more than one account crash" or "alt-tab crash". I run 3 accounts, 2 minimized for the majority of the time, on a gaming laptop and I have no problems. Glad to see the keys no longer being stuck. It sucked to accidentally click on a fleetmate while Control was bugged. OK total noob question: how do I minimize Eve? What key or keys? TY Alt+Tab if you have your game in full screen. Otherwise you need to change your client to windowed mode. It's in the settings. (At work so I don't have EVE here)
nonameforyou	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:07:00 - [188] Originally by: nonameforyou MAGE DPS LFG 10/25 RAID !! /w me ! . --------------------------- JUST KIDDING !!!@@!!! :) ---------------------------
Les Conrads	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:07:00 - [189] Let me make this clear. I know downtimes happen and I'm kinda OK with it, as I can just do other things. But why the flippin egg don't you inform the player base properly :/. Maybe I arranged my life, so that I could play with a friend specifically at those hours or WHATEVER. Just write some eve-mail and make an announcement somewhere EARLY! Yes, I kinda want to be informed, when the game goes down for some more hours than is normal. Thank you and good luck with deploying the patch :D - looking forward to a better working game!
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:10:00 - [190] Originally by: ZaGaNoRiX Now we got whinning about people whining why dont you all shut up and be a little more TOLERENT. Originally by: ZaGaNoRiX Now we have whining about people whining. Why dont you all shut up and be a little more tolerant? Fixed spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors. You're welcome. Can't fix your attitude without a bullet. CCP: We need another patch. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
flapie 2 Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:11:00 - [191] O boy now you done it ...... CCP has released a new version of hamsters, to deal with the whiners and exploiters, its called the karate Hamster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/elfwid/random/hamster_001.jpg
HellSyndrome	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:12:00 - [192] GREAT! The downtime has been extended to 13:30....
Sam Venilen	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:12:00 - [193] Someone order some tissue?
nonameforyou	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:13:00 - [194] Originally by: flapie 2 O boy now you done it ...... CCP has released a new version of hamsters, to deal with the whiners and exploiters, its called the karate Hamster: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v517/elfwid/random/hamster_001.jpg I LOVE HAMSTERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jarmug	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:14:00 - [195] Like mister bill, another fix to fix all the fixes.
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:14:00 - [196] Originally by: Byas Well... it's 14:05 UTC and still not able to log in... please give short explaination. 13:12 EVE/UTC time. Clock fail on your part. Just above the text in your post is the EVE/UTC time. Learn it, live it, love it. Just over 15 mintues before CCP extends the extended downtime. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Fling Achu	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:14:00 - [197] Somebody said that all the developers over at CCP have one eye covered and are named patch...
Juggalo Stazz	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:15:00 - [198] Originally by: WCPistolPete Originally by: ZaGaNoRiX Now we got whinning about people whining why dont you all shut up and be a little more TOLERENT. Originally by: ZaGaNoRiX Now we have whining about people whining. Why dont you all shut up and be a little more tolerant? Originally by: ZaGaNoRiX Now we have trolling about people trolling. Why dont you all shut up and stop typing? Fixed spelling, punctuation and grammatical errors. You're welcome. Can't fix your attitude without a bullet. CCP: We need another patch. Did the literal translation of what is being said in the above.
Elesentra Gallente Pawnstars INC	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:16:00 - [199] Originally by: Sinxar Edited by: Sinxar on 07/06/2011 11:56:35 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q Awesome!
Shef Arted	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:17:00 - [200] Use to be a good game until they decided to fix what was not broken. Go figure, guess it is the CCP way break what is not broken
Scaramouche Jones	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:18:00 - [201] Lots of people asking for moving DTs on a daily/weekly basis again in a patch discussion thread. If you're reading CCP (I know you are) I vote for that too. 2 hour change every week perhaps. I know you all work in London but it is a game played globally. Would be fairer for gameplay issues as well as just "DT is annoying in my playing hours" reason.
willey oneeye Davaham	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:19:00 - [202] ok not working yet back to world of tank then
Duke Garland	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:20:00 - [203] Originally by: Les Conrads Let me make this clear. I know downtimes happen and I'm kinda OK with it, as I can just do other things. But why the flippin egg don't you inform the player base properly :/. Just taking your post as an eXample, I really find it so amusing that apparently a vast part of the community still didn't figure that eXtended downtimes (unless there's a serious (safety) issue emerging) as of late always happen on Tuesdays. When they get postponed they always happen on a Thursday. I've adapted to that quite a while ago in terms of RL/training queue, especially since CCP announces those eXtended downtimes indeed a tad too late before the actual eXtended DT. There's surely quite some other stuff you people can find to complain about. :) Just my 2 cents...
Braondra	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:20:00 - [204] There are some good fix's there CCP. You win some you lose some, but you DO always manage to fix the bugs within a week or so from a major patch. People are losing sight of the quality of everything that WORKS and are focusing on stuff that doesnt work. Oh and ill be buying a PS3 for Dust, thanks for the diversification.
Adam Armstrong	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:20:00 - [205] i would like all missles to have sound was verry disapointed when i got a drake with 5 heavy missle launchers and only one makes a sound and PLEASE dont tell me to group them together its the only problem i have with eve thanks
Joanna Houghton	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:22:00 - [206] no one minds the half hour d/t hell i can remember when it was an hour ccp u make me cry :(
Jorban	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:22:00 - [207] Originally by: Shef Arted Use to be a good game until they decided to fix what was not broken. Go figure, guess it is the CCP way break what is not broken There we go. If CCP would just slow the hell down, and fix the myriad of small bugs that has come with the drumroll to incarna, we'd be a lot better off. But nooooo, we need to walk around in stations, using twice the amount of gpu we do in space, and remove the ship spinning ability (#1 favorite activity of every player). But I'm not complaining (too much). After I still play. But I am dreading Incarna... btw I never get sick of the back and forth trolling on the patch forums.
a newbie Trust Doesn't Rust Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:23:00 - [208] Installed patch, now whenever a gump pops up like "the cluster is down" message because I wasn't paying attention to status on login, my screens blow up with lines and tessellations shooting across it. There wasn't a graphics issue before but you just created another one. Win7 64bit ATI HD 5870
Bobinu	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:23:00 - [209] Well this extended DT has allowed me to get some jobs done round the house! Glad this patch is intended to fix so many annoying features. I know its frustrating for all those who live in the UK (includes me) or those whose precious eve time is ruined, but sometimes absence makes the heart grow fonder! Well done the EVE team working so hard to get it right. Bob
Super Whopper I can Has Cheeseburger	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:25:00 - [210] Thank you CCP, you've done a good job at killing my clients. Once again you've released half-baked patches.
Alba Luna	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:25:00 - [211] Timeisisk
Rebel marvin	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:25:00 - [212] Edited by: Rebel marvin on 07/06/2011 13:25:24 Thanks for getting rid of that sticking with the Cntrl key, I'm sure it was eventually going to cost me a ship or two (well actually it did cost me a Pod) Its quite difficult to target the sun thats over 10 A.U away when your actually trying to select it so you can spam the warp button -.-
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:26:00 - [213] Extended to 13:40 10 minutes? This is.. interesting..
Sam Venilen	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:26:00 - [214] Any takers? I bet they extened the extended down time and then patch the patch.
Misunderstood Genius	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:27:00 - [215] Edited by: Misunderstood Genius on 07/06/2011 13:28:24 Originally by: Super Whopper Thank you CCP, you've done a good job at killing my clients. Once again you've released half-baked patches. LOL, sometimes I ask myself what people need to play EVE not to get that frustrated and angry. Killing the clients. Sorry, I lol'ed so hard that it just killed my voice
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:28:00 - [216] Originally by: Adam Armstrong i would like all missles to have sound was verry disapointed when i got a drake with 5 heavy missle launchers and only one makes a sound and PLEASE dont tell me to group them together its the only problem i have with eve thanks If you only have 5 heavy launchers on your drake then sound is definately not your ONLY problem
Shaun Mathis	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:28:00 - [217] =0 i love you CCP you made the down time longer by 10 mins that was epic heheh
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:29:00 - [218] Originally by: Scaramouche Jones Lots of people asking for moving DTs on a daily/weekly basis again in a patch discussion thread. If you're reading CCP (I know you are) I vote for that too. 2 hour change every week perhaps. I know you all work in London but it is a game played globally. Would be fairer for gameplay issues as well as just "DT is annoying in my playing hours" reason. Interesting proposal. +1 vote, +10K innernetz pointz. Would also add to check the holiday calender and NOT do extended DT patches within 24 hours on either side of said holiday unless it's an emergency exploit fix. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
CipherPrime	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:29:00 - [219] Why are we having to go through this every few days this is rediculous come on guys dont do a MS use the general public as guinea pigs do your own testing or provide some free accounts for those who do the testing for you to make sure it works prior to release on a different server. this is only common sense. oh sorry common and sense should not be in the same sentence. no such thing these days grumpy bah humbug
Dale LoMass	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:30:00 - [220] Originally by: Adam Armstrong i would like all missles to have sound was verry disapointed when i got a drake with 5 heavy missle launchers and only one makes a sound and PLEASE dont tell me to group them together its the only problem i have with eve thanks You tried grouping those bad boys
Prince Spiderman	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:30:00 - [221] How's the finetuning going on, CCP?
phoenix0269 Gallente Degrees of Freedom The Babylon Consortium	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:31:00 - [222] jez guess there not smart enough to google "UTC TIME" Originally by: CCP Bella Bee Originally by: Lex Avril a word at this place to CCP even when wrong topic it's been asked again and again by players, and would really be a small nice helping feature to alot players: - could you please place a CLOCK with the actual EVE TIME on the LOGINSCREEN? I don't know why you're keep going to ignore this, really. pretty please with a cherry on the top thx I'll see what I can do
Sedilis Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:32:00 - [223] Originally by: CipherPrime Why are we having to go through this every few days this is rediculous come on guys dont do a MS use the general public as guinea pigs do your own testing or provide some free accounts for those who do the testing for you to make sure it works prior to release on a different server. SISI is that way --->>> http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Singularity
DopeRopes	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:33:00 - [224] So anyone know if you are going to be able to teabag in DUST514? Its an important feature to add....
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:33:00 - [225] Originally by: WCPistolPete Originally by: Scaramouche Jones Lots of people asking for moving DTs on a daily/weekly basis again in a patch discussion thread. If you're reading CCP (I know you are) I vote for that too. 2 hour change every week perhaps. I know you all work in London but it is a game played globally. Would be fairer for gameplay issues as well as just "DT is annoying in my playing hours" reason. Interesting proposal. +1 vote, +10K innernetz pointz. Would also add to check the holiday calender and NOT do extended DT patches within 24 hours on either side of said holiday unless it's an emergency exploit fix. Yes please have people working on regular downtime issues at 3am their time... sure it work out gloriously. Whiney Tards
Boltzy Tsero Jagusu innovations Dead On Arrival Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:34:00 - [226] Downtime will be extended on Tuesday, June 7, 2011 from 11:00 UTC to 13:40 UTC for the deployment of EVE Online: Incursion 1.6.1. For more information read this news post. Extended by 10 mins
fuel2310	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:35:00 - [227] hmmmm ill bet you all this downime is going to be extended atleast 3 times whit new patch before we are abble to log in again :( ****ING HATE ALL THEM UPDATES ALL THE TIME
flapie 2 Gallente	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:36:00 - [228] http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/3097162037_8a5d0dc621_o.jpg Found a bug, not an big one but one never the less. They are now waiting for the ninja hamster to kill the bug so TQ can be open once more.
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:37:00 - [229] Originally by: fuel2310 hmmmm ill bet you all this downime is going to be extended atleast 3 times whit new patch before we are abble to log in again :( ****ING HATE ALL THEM UPDATES ALL THE TIME Go do something in real life for 3 hours and when you come back I promise it'll be back up, ok?
Modeaus	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:37:00 - [230] Edited by: Modeaus on 07/06/2011 13:38:24 DT is at the perfect time. If you're anywhere from West coast US to Germany DT is either before you wake up or when you should be at work anyway. If you're not at work get a job you lazy bum! If they move the DT you'll find it happens right at the time you want to play and then you'll b!tch even moar! (Pls no comments about how I'm a lazy bum at home and not working)
Ebba Li	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:38:00 - [231] extended 10min!!!
galrizian Minmatar Exodus Defence Systems inc	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:39:00 - [232] oh ffs.... late again
NoobPwn	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:40:00 - [233] Edited by: NoobPwn on 07/06/2011 13:40:17 CCP downtime trolling again. Is that ture that you will take every opportunity of DT to troll with?
MasterChief351 Gallente Atlas Research Group Vanguard Venture Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:40:00 - [234] Cant wait for Incarna Patch Day :-p note to self set a skill for around a week :-(
galrizian Minmatar Exodus Defence Systems inc	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:41:00 - [235] nah i just got bk coz it said 13.30 so i give it an extra hour an lmfao..... i should of known better :P
Dinta Zembo	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:41:00 - [236] Originally by: Modeaus Edited by: Modeaus on 07/06/2011 13:38:24 DT is at the perfect time. If you're anywhere from West coast US to Germany DT is either before you wake up or when you should be at work anyway. If you're not at work get a job you lazy bum! If they move the DT you'll find it happens right at the time you want to play and then you'll b!tch even moar! (Pls no comments about how I'm a lazy bum at home and not working) Obviously everybody on earth lives on the US west coast or in Germany. You're a clever thinker sir.
NoobPwn	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:42:00 - [237] 14:00 YAY!
Ebba Li	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:42:00 - [238] Originally by: MasterChief351 Cant wait for Incarna Patch Day :-p note to self set a skill for around a week :-( That one gonna be a killer. Btw.. Extended to 1400
Look Dsub	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:42:00 - [239] wow eve is back up
whaynethepain Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:43:00 - [240] c'mon stop taking the **** CCP
Boltzy Tsero Jagusu innovations Dead On Arrival Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:43:00 - [241] Originally by: Look Dsub wow eve is back up Lies!!!
DopeRopes	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:43:00 - [242] Originally by: MasterChief351 Cant wait for Incarna Patch Day :-p note to self set a skill for around a week :-( Anyone who dosent is silly. Im going to start a big one training a week B4 Incarna and have a good long holiday from eve.. so when i come back all will be good.
Utka32	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:44:00 - [243] d
markie1994	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:44:00 - [244] anyone think ccp will get server up back on time 1 day?
Malku Shimaya	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:44:00 - [245] And down time is extended... AGAIN
CPL Madison	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:44:00 - [246] lol thats 2 extensions already.... bless 'em one day they will get it right :)
thedarkeststar Caldari The Darkest Abyss	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:44:00 - [247] 14:00 UTC - Another 15 minutes - wow at least its not massive !
NoobPwn	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:44:00 - [248] LFG ZF HAVE MULLET!
galrizian Minmatar Exodus Defence Systems inc	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:45:00 - [249] Originally by: markie1994 anyone think ccp will get server up back on time 1 day? no m8.. i dont think they ever will :P
Modeaus	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:45:00 - [250] Originally by: Dinta Zembo Obviously everybody on earth lives on the US west coast or in Germany. You're a clever thinker sir. If you're anywhere from West coast US to Germany Obviously I'm ignoring people in Oz who should be doing hard time anyway.
Lex Avril	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:45:00 - [251] Originally by: phoenix0269 jez guess there not smart enough to google "UTC TIME" glad you're smart enough for those really helpful intelligent comments, buddy
Yuna Tenshi	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:45:00 - [252] NOW DOWN TO 14:00 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CCP I HATE YOU every fu**ing day downtime... gimmy my money back for all this hours !!
fuel2310	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:45:00 - [253] extended to 14.oo that was 2 time i bet there will be 1 more :p and for incarna when it commes all my acc goes on 42 days training and i will go 1 week away from game :p
MasterChief351 Gallente Atlas Research Group Vanguard Venture Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:45:00 - [254] Nows A Good time to end Cruelty to Hamsters....
Fuel Technician	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:45:00 - [255] While we're on the topic of downtimes, please can you stop doing all the deployments/extended DT's on bloody Tuesdays........ I'm self employed, the wife works Tuesday 8-5.30, all the kids are a school so it's an obvious choice for my day off :) But you lot seem to like Tuesdays too......is no good!!
Look Dsub	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:45:00 - [256] Originally by: Boltzy Tsero Originally by: Look Dsub wow eve is back up Lies!!! no i am in game and doing a mission eve is back up
Horus upercal	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:46:00 - [257] we all really should learn that when an update occurs leave it another hour before trying to get on cause every single time it gets extended
Tatiana Nixx	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:46:00 - [258] Dear customer, We regret to inform you that the Pos where all our hamsters were housed ran out of fuel yesterday. All our hamsters died in a most hidious fashion. We are curently scouring the markets for more hamsters to power our servers. That pos in question also housed our Coding Monkeys. As such, our patches may... be... of questionable quality as they are being written by emergecy back-up Coding Monkeys. In the mean time please feel free to flame us in our forums about our poor efforts to release WORKING updates. Respectfully, CCCPP Customer Relations Department
Capsuleer Newton	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:46:00 - [259] Originally by: NoobPwn LFG ZF HAVE MULLET! >melee dps< invite please :))
phoenix0269 Gallente Degrees of Freedom The Babylon Consortium	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:47:00 - [260] your more than welcome buddy Originally by: Lex Avril Originally by: phoenix0269 jez guess there not smart enough to google "UTC TIME" glad you're smart enough for those really helpful intelligent comments, buddy
LeftNut Alpha	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:47:00 - [261] Originally by: Dinta Zembo Originally by: Modeaus Edited by: Modeaus on 07/06/2011 13:38:24 DT is at the perfect time. If you're anywhere from West coast US to Germany DT is either before you wake up or when you should be at work anyway. If you're not at work get a job you lazy bum! If they move the DT you'll find it happens right at the time you want to play and then you'll b!tch even moar! (Pls no comments about how I'm a lazy bum at home and not working) Obviously everybody on earth lives on the US west coast or in Germany. You're a clever thinker sir. No, but the vast majority of EVE players live in those time zones. CCP can have downtime when 10K players are on or when 60K players are trying to log in. Its a no brainer for me. If playing EVE is the most imporatant thing in your life then you should move into one of those time zones.
Shaun Mathis	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:47:00 - [262] Epic i say epic 20 more mins added this is sweet i wanna see them add 1 min
jack morrigan	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:47:00 - [263] here we go again. i want a refund of my game time.
Kush Bluestar Caldari Kindred Oracles of Justice	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:47:00 - [264] Well we are up to 1400 officially now :( Not angry..just wanna log in and play...Keep up good work on a great game CCP!!!
Slater Furious	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:47:00 - [265] am i the only 1 that would like ccp to fix the estermated time for patches to be fixed
Honorson	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:48:00 - [266] maybe all the extended downtime was due to late pizza delivery and failure to press install
Lorn Vanda Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:48:00 - [267] I can't wait to buy me a Noctis. (Just back after a 7 month hiatus)
Command 00	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:48:00 - [268] Trololololololololol lolololol, That 10 min extended Time was EPIC CCP
Ebba Li	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:48:00 - [269] Alot of signs to manually move with a hauler... there is a few stargates in the game... dont know how they will make it 20min.. but then.. even a blind chicken finds a corn from time to time!! These "important" stuff just "needs" be fixed. if the market window continue bug out and put all the buy/sell order above the screen is of none importance.. who use the maket these day.. uuuh?
DopeRopes	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:49:00 - [270] Originally by: Yuna Tenshi NOW DOWN TO 14:00 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CCP I HATE YOU every fuing day downtime... gimmy my money back for all this hours !! Swearing a CCP.. bad idea! Expect a T4 Jovian battleship to show up in the next week to pod your ass. Dont **off the guys that own and program the game :P
Shuggington P	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:49:00 - [271] Edited by: Shuggington P on 07/06/2011 13:49:37 Can there be a clock placed on the log in page? I have to check EVEMon for the time... Also the control button for targeting mode is great but maybe it can be a hot key. I like not having to hold down control when clicking. This is interesting since it is also my communication button. Personally i'd like to set it for my center mouse click button.
Shaun Mathis	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:50:00 - [272] if you look it says like 9 players are on they must be having some CCP stand off and going at it in their ships before we get in
Evil Stare	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:50:00 - [273] Originally by: Ebba Li Alot of signs to manually move with a hauler... there is a few stargates in the game... dont know how they will make it 20min.. but then.. even a blind chicken finds a corn from time to time!! These "important" stuff just "needs" be fixed. if the market window continue bug out and put all the buy/sell order above the screen is of none importance.. who use the maket these day.. uuuh? Exactly...wait what?
Noriah Naterau	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:50:00 - [274] my gawd man!! You all sound like a *****ing woman!! Fix this!! Look at this!! Quit doing this!! Quit doing that!! Shut the hell up.... A game like this is gonna have its probs, glitches, and everything else!! If this was WOW you would be charged for the update and all the crap that went along with it!! CCP... awesome!! Thanks for all your hard work! Keep it up man!! I love this game
Kenisk	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:50:00 - [275] Well, I hope this fixes all the troubles I have been seeing. Overview changes back and forth during session changes (Gate Jumps, station docking , etc.). Overview grays out during game play. Overview Holds objects no longer there. Game freeze when you goto warp and click on a chat window. This has been the worst patch in 5 years. I am sure CCP, has lots of people to check code, and the test server. But I didn't see any of this happen on singlarity. Lets cross our fingers. Fly safe all.
cyborgen	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:50:00 - [276] Edited by: cyborgen on 07/06/2011 13:51:15 Wonders how world of warcraft manages patches and updates..... any better ?
Wallis Jenkins Gallente masters of wealth Stainless.	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:51:00 - [277] CCP, since you're taking extra down time, plz fix those DAMN T3's :):) Hooo-raaah!!!
FHS01	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:52:00 - [278] Stop all this patch after patch, the game was just fine as it was. CCP should pay a fine of 20mill isk for every hour they over run to all players, that would make them test a patch before putting it out.
Illwill Bill Talu Shaya Talu Shaya Empire	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:52:00 - [279] Bookmarks. Overview. Rage. Originally by: CCP Zymurgist Revenge is a dish best served with auto-cannons.
NoobPwn	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:52:00 - [280] They "estimated" that they can get the things done before XX:XX:XX, then they failed, so we all get a partially done fail patch, then they "estimated" the time to fix that patch. This is what's happening right now. CCP fix your estimations first then fix the rest.
Strikercity Gallente Toxic Waste Industries	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:52:00 - [281] Edited by: Strikercity on 07/06/2011 13:54:55 Edited by: Strikercity on 07/06/2011 13:53:38 Damn waiting for something take forever !! Lets make a difference
This Suxbad	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:52:00 - [282] Actually i won eve and they are just trying to figure out how to tell all of you :P
Pire Express	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:52:00 - [283] CCP should involve themselves in politics, they already know how to do not respect their promises
Ghostorgheist	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:53:00 - [284] Oh look, Warp bubbles in our solar system HTTP://www.space.com/11884-nasa-bubbles-solar-system-edge.html
Bank Toralen	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:53:00 - [285] Can we have a full month of playing? allways patch and patch! Ok they fix ome issues and you work hard, thank you for that and keeping eve evolve and keeping it great but! sometime I dream about a month without patching! lol anyways thanks for this great game!
Gainard	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:53:00 - [286] Originally by: Modeaus Edited by: Modeaus on 07/06/2011 13:38:24 DT is at the perfect time. If you're anywhere from West coast US to Germany DT is either before you wake up or when you should be at work anyway. If you're not at work get a job you lazy bum! If they move the DT you'll find it happens right at the time you want to play and then you'll b!tch even moar! (Pls no comments about how I'm a lazy bum at home and not working) Well I DON'T live in either place of this little planet and DT occurs at my prime time. I don't mind the downtime, especially since it now is only 30mins. What I do mind is the missing anouncement of a coming extended downtime. I just wish to have a short message in the loginscreen after DT one day ahead of the extended DT. If the anouncement is made when the US or Europe have their prime time I am already sleeping or working as suggested. And I said: Pirates? What pirates would be interested in the few rocks I have mined? 3 Minutes later I was warping back to station - in my egg...
Look Dsub	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:53:00 - [287] Originally by: FHS01 Stop all this patch after patch, the game was just fine as it was. CCP should pay a fine of 20mill isk for every hour they over run to all players, that would make them test a patch before putting it out. 20m isk is a lot to give out. if gived to all players (why not give 1 hr free sp ?)
Lt Dian	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:53:00 - [288] Originally by: Slater Furious am i the only 1 that would like ccp to fix the estermated time for patches to be fixed that would be nice.
Modeaus	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:54:00 - [289] I bet they have a book running for how many whiny, crying forum posts they can get during EDT :p
Valie Falino	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:54:00 - [290] eight is equal to or greater than tilde.
Boltzy Tsero Jagusu innovations Dead On Arrival Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:55:00 - [291] TQ is UP Fly Safe
Makeshift Storque	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:55:00 - [292] Interestingly, I've only actually been hit by ONE of the bugs that've been mentioned, even after trying to recreate all of them out of pure interest. The one I've been hit with is the T3+BC's flying backwards/sideways, but that doesn't affect me at all. I'm not sure why I'm not being hit by the rest of these, but I'm not. I blame you guys! :P Either way, keep up the good work CCP, I know how hard it is to debug properly, and how badass difficult it can be to somehow predict every single possible problem that THOUSANDS of players might cause.
DopeRopes	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:55:00 - [293] The only real winners in EvE are the players that dont wait for server to come back online after a patch :P Everyone knows they run late.
TheLastZmeul Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:55:00 - [294] here's a thought .. why don't replace the end time of the DT with TBA or better yet TBD you keep changing it, so what's the point; 13:30 turned into 13:40 and now 14:00
FHS0001	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:56:00 - [295] Originally by: Look Dsub Originally by: FHS01 Stop all this patch after patch, the game was just fine as it was. CCP should pay a fine of 20mill isk for every hour they over run to all players, that would make them test a patch before putting it out. 20m isk is a lot to give out. if gived to all players (why not give 1 hr free sp ?) If your think 20mill for 1h is allot you need to get better at eve mate.
Mamba Lev BricK sQuAD.	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:56:00 - [296] Any chance we will be able to play EVE this month you useless ****s? ---------------------------------- Bring Back Faction f.o.f.s
Tatiana Nixx	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:56:00 - [297] Server is up. I'm online
Lt Dian	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:56:00 - [298] If they were smart they would just say EVE is down until we can bring it up. That way no one would be unhappy that they didn't bring it up on time, giving everyone room for other issues to be unhappy about.
Lorn Vanda Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:56:00 - [299] Originally by: cyborgen Edited by: cyborgen on 07/06/2011 13:51:15 Wonders how world of warcraft manages patches and updates..... any better ? Better timewise but worse overall. You usually need to download the patch from a third party, the blizzard downloader is just awful. Never had that problem with eve.
cyborgen	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:56:00 - [300] Good rule to follow in software development: Take your best case scenario time estimate and multiply by 2 ;) ... this way you leave yourself a bit of buffer and your clients are happy when your implementation is completed early... You'd think they would have learnt by now lol
Dako Semi	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:58:00 - [301] I wish all winers stop complaining and calling names and such to CCP. They are doing a great job and working there ass off to get the servers up and running. just my 0.02 ct. Dako
Amar Azaph	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:58:00 - [302] Originally by: Noriah Naterau my gawd man!! You all sound like a *****ing woman!! Fix this!! Look at this!! Quit doing this!! Quit doing that!! Shut the hell up.... A game like this is gonna have its probs, glitches, and everything else!! If this was WOW you would be charged for the update and all the crap that went along with it!! CCP... awesome!! Thanks for all your hard work! Keep it up man!! I love this game You work for CCP? Sent from a campfire using smoke signals.
fuel2310	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:59:00 - [303] weeeeeeeeeeeeeee iy works im in the game and online again :p
Modeaus	Posted - 2011.06.07 13:59:00 - [304] Good job CCP! Got the server up with 3 mins to spare! :p
Gainard	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:01:00 - [305] Originally by: cyborgen Good rule to follow in software development: Take your best case scenario time estimate and multiply by 2 ;) ... this way you leave yourself a bit of buffer and your clients are happy when your implementation is completed early... You'd think they would have learnt by now lol They never saw that Star Trek movie where Scotty gave a similar advice to Gordy... And I said: Pirates? What pirates would be interested in the few rocks I have mined? 3 Minutes later I was warping back to station - in my egg...
Damith d'Estelas Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:02:00 - [306] Originally by: jack morrigan here we go again. i want a refund of my game time. OK... let's see now... 14.95 Euros a month is approximately 22 USD a month, which, at 30 days @ 24 hours/day, works out at roughly 3 cents per hour. How would you like to receive your 9 cents refund then...?
Consortium Agent	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:03:00 - [307] I've been telling CCP for years to pad their downtimes during client updates. Setting client expectations is a key part of your business. Running an MMO requires near constant attention to details, one of which is setting client expectations. I've also recommended a number of books for the powers-that-be at CCP to read. Surely if English is the issue you can get a copy in your own native language - title like CMMI for Development, Winning with Software (or pretty much anything else written by Humphrey) - all of these books describe the same basic principles behind driving a successful software development organization. All of these books talk about setting client expectations and understanding the repercussions of slipped deadlines. Continuing to release crappy, untested patches full of bugs that are self-evident on the testing servers, followed by a lackluster approach to resolving the issues created by the crappy patch, do not bode well with the Eve community at large. Remember - we're your clients and setting our expectations to be 'CCP is surely going to fck this up' and 'yeah, 13:30 my @ss!' isn't in the best interest of CCP, yet you continue to do it every single GD time you patch. 'Oh yeah, it'll only take us a couple of hours to deploy a patch' can't possibly cross the minds of anyone who works there unless they're criminally insane. History demonstrates that CCP never releases a bug free update, never releases even the smallest patch on time or within the deployment window CCP calculates and provides to their clients and never clearly communicates with their primary stakeholders - your players. You're sleeping at CMMI Level 1. These are symptoms of a failed process. So, again I suggest someone over at CCP pull their head out of their #ss and pick up a couple good SEI/CMMI books. I know it will again fall on deaf ears, but it makes me feel better having said it, so nyah! :P Seriously, love the game - hate the executives forcing developers to release crappy untested patches. We expect this kind of behavior from the likes of Microsoft, not from the likes of CCP. Oh, and one last note since it's kinda pertinent - releasing Dust514 exclusively for the PS3 (and excluding your entire Eve Online PC/Mac user base) is fcking ******ed. Seriously. It's the worst decision I've seen CCP make since they tried to fix nullsec and made it worse. I understand why you're doing it, it's much easier to focus on a single platform and take advantage of all of it's strengths while avoiding it's weaknesses... but it's a stupid GD reason and you're alienating hundreds of thousands of Eve Online players all over the world. Just my two cents on that. Who the hell is running that place these days anyway? Fire his @ss! He's not doing CCP any favors. Clearly.
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:04:00 - [308] Originally by: This Suxbad Yes please have people working on regular downtime issues at 3am their time... sure it work out gloriously. Whiney Tards The game is usually running 23 hours a day. What the hell do you think CCP does if there's a database crash at 4 AM their time? There is obviously staff in the building. And since it's most likely database staff a simple DT for database maintenance can be done any time of day. I doubt the entrie staff rolls out of the building at 11:00 UTC and then returns at 11:30 UTC. However, that might explain the need for extended DTs. The line at the coffee shop was just too long. -1 troll points to you, sir. Fly safely. If you can't fly safely you'll always have self-destruct. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Coolmer	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:06:00 - [309] Originally by: Noriah Naterau my gawd man!! You all sound like a *****ing woman!! Fix this!! Look at this!! Quit doing this!! Quit doing that!! Shut the hell up.... A game like this is gonna have its probs, glitches, and everything else!! If this was WOW you would be charged for the update and all the crap that went along with it!! CCP... awesome!! Thanks for all your hard work! Keep it up man!! I love this game i see u like to play female characters, so u know all about female population ... nice CCP is doing that wrong in the last few years, patch after patch, glitch after glitch, bug after bug, extended downtime, and name it .... it is time to reconsider about CCP politics and get rid (like u say) woman thinking, when they stop production in direction of COSMO EVE: World of Barbie then in eve again will be logic and all will make sense ...
Telvani Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:06:00 - [310] Undocked - nothing happened woo, its fixed ty CCP! Jumped through first gate - graphics drivers crash and client stops responding gg CCP, you got me
ISquishWorms	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:06:00 - [311] Traceback (most recent call last): File "repair.py", line 206, in <module> File "updateSelf.pyc", line 94, in UpdateSelf_nt File "updateSelf.pyc", line 21, in ReadUpdateInfo File "repairTool\repairTools.pyc", line 250, in GetRepairInfo File "repairTool\repairTools.pyc", line 157, in SafeUrlOpen urllib2.HTTPError: HTTP Error 404: Not Found: 'http://eveonline.com/patches/repair_info.txt' Patch won't install and repair.exe not working see above log. Any ideas on why and how to fix this?
LeftNut Alpha	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:11:00 - [312] Crashed to desktop twice in less than 10 minutes...what was fixed?
Capsuleer Newton	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:11:00 - [313] LMAO... a few jumps and meeeh!! Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 6/7/2011 9:07:58 AM Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: Gaming Description: Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38 Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x000021e9 Faulting process id: 0xa9c Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251ab6d3d285 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe Faulting module path: unknown Report Id: 8b7edf93-910f-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8 Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:07:58.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>34882</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>Gaming</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>6.44.26.2931</Data> <Data>4dda9d38</Data> <Data>unknown</Data> <Data>0.0.0.0</Data> <Data>00000000</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>000021e9</Data> <Data>a9c</Data> <Data>01cc251ab6d3d285</Data> <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>unknown</Data> <Data>8b7edf93-910f-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data> </EventData> </Event>
Simanti	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:15:00 - [314] Originally by: Damith d'Estelas Originally by: jack morrigan here we go again. i want a refund of my game time. OK... let's see now... 14.95 Euros a month is approximately 22 USD a month, which, at 30 days @ 24 hours/day, works out at roughly 3 cents per hour. How would you like to receive your 9 cents refund then...? You note the post was about "game time" not "available time". I suggest that you, along with everyone else on Eve, does not play 24X7. If you are mostly asleep during DT (which most US players ARE), then you lose nothing of your available "game time". If however you play 7 hours a week, and unscheduled DT occurs during that time then a loss of two hours equates to a big percentage of your "game time", even if it is only a small proportion of your theoretical "available time". Maybe additional DT should be split across different times so we all get a fair share of inturruption to our "available" time. If any of the DT's in the last year had occured between 02:00 and 08:00 eve I would have lost a total of no "game time" even though "available time" would have been reduced by 25% - I suggest for you such a setup would have caused a much bigger loss! If we are to continue to have unscheduled DT then please can we either a) spread the pain around by using different times or b) add any unscheduled DT to our accounts each month so those of us who get DT in our prime times don't get a disproportionate hit. Other than that keep up the excelent work on the greatest game in the universe, and I won't now have to mow the lawn until the next unscheduled DT..
Vera Coen	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:20:00 - [315] The sun is no longer an issue with the capacitor; however, the cap, shields, and armor are still difficult to see. Please make them brighter or give an option to do so. I am having to rely on audio alerts in PvP as I cannot judge the values with a glance anymore.
Capsuleer Newton	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:22:00 - [316] Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 6/7/2011 9:21:14 AM Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: Gaming Description: Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38 Faulting module name: _trinity_deploy.dll, version: 6.45.26.7202, time stamp: 0x4debd6f5 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x001b8ec1 Faulting process id: 0x768 Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251d9826a2e3 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll Report Id: 65da1bad-9111-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8 Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:21:14.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>34884</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>Gaming</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>6.44.26.2931</Data> <Data>4dda9d38</Data> <Data>_trinity_deploy.dll</Data> <Data>6.45.26.7202</Data> <Data>4debd6f5</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>001b8ec1</Data> <Data>768</Data> <Data>01cc251d9826a2e3</Data> <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll</Data> <Data>65da1bad-9111-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data> </EventData> </Event>
fillin77	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:26:00 - [317] My update patch is freezing up.
Capsuleer Newton	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:28:00 - [318] Originally by: Capsuleer Newton Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 6/7/2011 9:21:14 AM Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: Gaming Description: Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38 Faulting module name: _trinity_deploy.dll, version: 6.45.26.7202, time stamp: 0x4debd6f5 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x001b8ec1 Faulting process id: 0x768 Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251d9826a2e3 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll Report Id: 65da1bad-9111-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8 Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:21:14.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>34884</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>Gaming</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>6.44.26.2931</Data> <Data>4dda9d38</Data> <Data>_trinity_deploy.dll</Data> <Data>6.45.26.7202</Data> <Data>4debd6f5</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>001b8ec1</Data> <Data>768</Data> <Data>01cc251d9826a2e3</Data> <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll</Data> <Data>65da1bad-9111-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data> </EventData> </Event> Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 6/7/2011 9:25:48 AM Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: Gaming Description: Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38 Faulting module name: _trinity_deploy.dll, version: 6.45.26.7202, time stamp: 0x4debd6f5 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0x001b8ec1 Faulting process id: 0x1a00 Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251d3bf47833 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe Faulting module path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll Report Id: 092cc8b2-9112-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8 Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:25:48.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>34886</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>Gaming</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>6.44.26.2931</Data> <Data>4dda9d38</Data> <Data>_trinity_deploy.dll</Data> <Data>6.45.26.7202</Data> <Data>4debd6f5</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>001b8ec1</Data> <Data>1a00</Data> <Data>01cc251d3bf47833</Data> <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\_trinity_deploy.dll</Data> <Data>092cc8b2-9112-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data> </EventData> </Event>
kala Alar	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:30:00 - [319] Edited by: kala Alar on 07/06/2011 14:30:41 game is still crashing when running two clients
Kieth Lemon	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:37:00 - [320] Game is still crashing when jumping gates running 2 clients. this sux. 10 days of not being able to use my second account.... i think i want a refund of my second accounts subscription. im paying for a product i cant use. unplayable. Ccp your gonna lose my 2 accounts as a cutomer if this isnt fixed asap. 10 freaking days man grrrrrrrr
Capsuleer Newton	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:39:00 - [321] Originally by: kala Alar Edited by: kala Alar on 07/06/2011 14:30:41 game is still crashing when running two clients NOPE, not just 2 or more clients, just one running but minimized and it crashed... Log Name: Application Source: Application Error Date: 6/7/2011 9:35:38 AM Event ID: 1000 Task Category: (100) Level: Error Keywords: Classic User: N/A Computer: Gaming Description: Faulting application name: ExeFile.exe, version: 6.44.26.2931, time stamp: 0x4dda9d38 Faulting module name: unknown, version: 0.0.0.0, time stamp: 0x00000000 Exception code: 0xc0000005 Fault offset: 0xbff1b6e1 Faulting process id: 0xbc0 Faulting application start time: 0x01cc251e8201d5a2 Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe Faulting module path: unknown Report Id: 68d5e0f0-9113-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8 Event Xml: <Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event"> <System> <Provider Name="Application Error" /> <EventID Qualifiers="0">1000</EventID> <Level>2</Level> <Task>100</Task> <Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords> <TimeCreated SystemTime="2011-06-07T14:35:38.000000000Z" /> <EventRecordID>34888</EventRecordID> <Channel>Application</Channel> <Computer>Gaming</Computer> <Security /> </System> <EventData> <Data>ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>6.44.26.2931</Data> <Data>4dda9d38</Data> <Data>unknown</Data> <Data>0.0.0.0</Data> <Data>00000000</Data> <Data>c0000005</Data> <Data>bff1b6e1</Data> <Data>bc0</Data> <Data>01cc251e8201d5a2</Data> <Data>C:\Program Files (x86)\Games\CCP\EVE\bin\ExeFile.exe</Data> <Data>unknown</Data> <Data>68d5e0f0-9113-11e0-b3ef-a4badbe883e8</Data> </EventData> </Event>
Gainard	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:40:00 - [322] Two clients running (win XP) no problem. And I said: Pirates? What pirates would be interested in the few rocks I have mined? 3 Minutes later I was warping back to station - in my egg...
phoenix0269 Gallente Degrees of Freedom The Babylon Consortium	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:45:00 - [323] well still cant center or get locator tabs on bm during scanning and still 1 clock locking and still no launcher/turret sounds good patch
Navetse Sasen Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:52:00 - [324] Not all problems the eve exe file shows are problems with the eve exe file. Developers usually embedd errors in codes to avoid causing worse problems when one problem with YOUR computer prevents it from working properly. This happens often because: - Another application uses resources EVE use and dont have the courtesy to ask for it first (seems a joke, but avoiding tech talk, that is exactly what happens). - Your machine doesnt have resources for EVE, or for "double EVE". One step is to open the Task Manager and at the performance tab look how much of your CPU and Memory is used when running one, and then two instances of EVE. - Remeber that EVE uses tons of services and processes that arent in EVE exe, and when EVE calls one of them and THESE processes or services result in error, the error will most likely be attributed to EVE exe, not the faulty or otherwise broken process called. I am now running 4 EVEs and testing theses issues, and it seems most problems are solved. When I try run 5, it get laggy, but still working. When I open a 6th EVE, it crashes, because my PC CANT HANDLE that much. So if you have problems running more than one instance of EVE, make sure your PC can handle that much. Minimal or Recommended hardware are based on only one instance of EVE running. Although the carbon thingy really made EVE a little more heavy, I still running 4 instances the same way I used to run before. And my distribution missions done by the 4 at the same time never resulted in crashes.
Capsuleer Newton	Posted - 2011.06.07 14:56:00 - [325] > if this helps < All my crashes since 1.6 Patch, aside from 1: Conditions: 1]Client that crashed was minimized; 2]I was autopiloting several jumps; 3]Crash always occurs right after jumping; One oddball, my toons [2 clients] were orbiting each other within 2500m of a gate, and both clients hanged simultaneously, maybe affected by someone jumping.. >.<
Megalift Omni Tech Engineering Needless Friends	Posted - 2011.06.07 15:02:00 - [326] Corp Wallet is still broke! Please fix it. You made it so the Division colume can be sorted alphanumericaly forward or reverse, or you can sort by isk amount. Thats very cool, cept you cant sort it like it was, by division number. I like the way it was and would like to sort by division number.
Navetse Sasen Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.07 15:03:00 - [327] When jumping, you are actually changing the session you have in one "instance" of a solar system to another. You have an option to observe the session changes, doing it can be helpful. The simultaneous change coupled with any Internet issue you have, or if your Internet cant handle it properly, will result in a crash.
fillin77	Posted - 2011.06.07 15:08:00 - [328] When i start the client and it gives me the update patch it starts to run it then freezes and i cant update it????
Capsuleer Newton	Posted - 2011.06.07 15:12:00 - [329] Originally by: Navetse Sasen When jumping, you are actually changing the session you have in one "instance" of a solar system to another. You have an option to observe the session changes, doing it can be helpful. The simultaneous change coupled with any Internet issue you have, or if your Internet cant handle it properly, will result in a crash. :) i have i7 860, 5770 ATI card, 8GB RAM, 1000 GB Drive, Win 7 64 Home Premium, Comcast [ISP], hardwired to my router, can easily stream Netflix to 2 PCs and still play Eve without skipping a bit, both clients barely utilizes 10% of the CPU, and on average i can't even use more than 20% of my CPU in normal use and just below 50% of my RAM, so i don't really think that's an issue on my internet connection or my system :))
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 15:13:00 - [330] Originally by: Simanti If you are mostly asleep during DT (which most US players ARE You ASSume way too much here. 11:00-11:30 UTC = 7-7:30 AM Eastern Daylight. East Coast, Central and hell even Mountain and Pacific guys (and girls) will be awake depending upon work/family/party schedules. If it's a day off meant/reserved for playing EVE then it's a big loss. I work a flexible schedule but still get up early enough every day to get at least an hour of time on the server before DT. -1 troll points to you, sir. {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Navetse Sasen Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.07 15:23:00 - [331] I use a similar hardware here, mostly, and sometimes I run EVE in 2 PCs I have, 4 EVEs in this i7, same 8gb and ATI 4600 series. It never crashes even using this crappy net from Spain ex-gov telecom (Telefonica de Espa±a). Sometimes when I really need a boost in mining or fleet combat, I use one old core i5 I have, with 4gb ram and Nvidia "similar" video card. This one, the i7, runs win7, the other, i5, Win Vista. Using this i7, I run 4 EVEs at ease, while browsing, using ventrilo and sometimes even downloading huge files. The other one, i5, cant handle more than 2 EVEs, but still, even if I got all 6 online at the same time, travelling in flock, it never crashed IN THAT SITUATION. Crashed twice but just because ADSL failed, as I insisted in using EVE at a time of the day I know Telefonica "drops" people using much bandwidth. Besides that two occasions, no crash.
Troll Bridgington Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.06.07 15:29:00 - [332] My graphics driver is still crashing and restarting everytime I jump. =/ Have not had a CTD yet, though.
WCPistolPete Gallente MacroIntel	Posted - 2011.06.07 15:37:00 - [333] Originally by: Capsuleer Newton Edited by: Capsuleer Newton on 07/06/2011 15:23:12 Originally by: Navetse Sasen When jumping, you are actually changing the session you have in one "instance" of a solar system to another. You have an option to observe the session changes, doing it can be helpful. The simultaneous change coupled with any Internet issue you have, or if your Internet cant handle it properly, will result in a crash. :) i have i7 860, 5770 ATI card, 8GB RAM, 1000 GB Drive, Win 7 64 Home Premium, Comcast [ISP], hardwired to my router, can easily stream Netflix to 2 PCs and still play Eve without skipping a bit, both clients barely utilizes 10% of the CPU, and on average i can't even use more than 20% of my CPU in normal use and just below 50% of my RAM, so i don't really think that's an issue on my internet connection or my system :)) Furthermore, if it was the case, why won't it crash when i warp to 0 [manual]? even with 2 clients, as long as i warp to 0, i don't seem to crash, maybe i just don't linger that long near gates to get the client crash... Don't forget that this didn't happen until AFTER the 1.6 patch. That's a very important clue Navetse Sasen... {WC}PistolPete "...going to take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up..." Homer Simpson
Navetse Sasen Caldari State War Academy	Posted - 2011.06.07 15:41:00 - [334] Originally by: WCPistolPete Originally by: Capsuleer Newton Edited by: Capsuleer Newton on 07/06/2011 15:23:12 Originally by: Navetse Sasen (...) Don't forget that this didn't happen until AFTER the 1.6 patch. That's a very important clue Navetse Sasen... I use multiloggin every day at least once for our scheduled daily mining operation, and for some mission running aswell. If that was to happen anytime until today, that would have happened then. (I use alts to post to avoid intel gathering, ganking, and other problems people posting with their main char have)
Valie Falino	Posted - 2011.06.07 16:19:00 - [335] Edited by: Valie Falino on 07/06/2011 16:22:26 9 eve clients running, (5 logged in as I don't have any more accounts) All graphics turned up to max. No lag. No crashes. I think the new UI works differently with directx. Some video cards work better than others with diff versions of directx. If you have an older video card, just because it "supports" or "works" with the new directx doesn't mean its necessarily going to play nice. Before u flame my idear, I am not claiming any extrodinairy programming skillz or computer knowledge. All of this is from experience. Its quite possible the system requirements for eve just went up and just because your pc meets them does not mean that you automatically can run a zillion copies of it now or even 2. PC I am using is running 580gtx w/ i7(one of the more better ones) 24gb ecc ram and a very very very expensive and stable motherboard. (gain i'm not claiming any super pc knowledge so stats aren't meant to say "mine works cus of part blah") cus i don't know. It would be interesting to hear from people who are crashing what their system specs are and if you are on a laptop(video card reasons). edit: scratch the ram amount. when i switched to ecc I had to change from 24 to 16 due to something to do with how the channels work. So above situation is 16gb ram not 24.
Oya Mando	Posted - 2011.06.07 16:39:00 - [336] Originally by: Valie Falino Edited by: Valie Falino on 07/06/2011 16:22:26 9 eve clients running, (5 logged in as I don't have any more accounts) All graphics turned up to max. No lag. No crashes. I think the new UI works differently with directx. Some video cards work better than others with diff versions of directx. If you have an older video card, just because it "supports" or "works" with the new directx doesn't mean its necessarily going to play nice. Before u flame my idear, I am not claiming any extrodinairy programming skillz or computer knowledge. All of this is from experience. Its quite possible the system requirements for eve just went up and just because your pc meets them does not mean that you automatically can run a zillion copies of it now or even 2. PC I am using is running 580gtx w/ i7(one of the more better ones) 24gb ecc ram and a very very very expensive and stable motherboard. (gain i'm not claiming any super pc knowledge so stats aren't meant to say "mine works cus of part blah") cus i don't know. It would be interesting to hear from people who are crashing what their system specs are and if you are on a laptop(video card reasons). edit: scratch the ram amount. when i switched to ecc I had to change from 24 to 16 due to something to do with how the channels work. So above situation is 16gb ram not 24. So, your'e basically saying **** all of ya, buy a 3000 buck worth of computer, and your problems are solved? sorry to dissapoint you right there,but that is not, how MMORPG's usually work. And EVE has a lot of Laptop users, who,by all means, would have to spend even a bit more, to get an equally specced "Laptop"(more likely a desktop replacement, with a battery span under an hour), so all i can tell you, is, go back to Crysis, and troll there. maybe someone might listen.

CCP Navigator C C P C C P Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 17:07:00 - [337] Thread locked. Deployment has been successful and an Issues and Feedback thread are now available. Navigator Lead Community Representative CCP Hf, EVE Online


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Where is the SIZE of the patch in the patch notes?

Where is the SIZE of the patch in the patch notes?

Please default to show broadcasts and not "all".Then make it remember what we select.

Please default to show broadcasts and not "all".

Then make it remember what we select.