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Tinwe Linto
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Posted - 2011.06.08 21:52:00 -
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 Originally by: Fredfredbug4
And no, I'm not a fanboy, I own all the consoles and play the regularly.
I like that you flame the "fanboys," but refute your own argument by flaming in the first place. A nice built-in counter to your own post.
On another note: I like that the vast majority of the people who "don't mind" it being on the PS3 are apparently taking the higher road...but also conveniently own PS3's themselves. If you're going to tell people not to complain, you might want to leave that out; it's like a rich person telling a poor person that money isn't important, it's rather hard to believe.
I honestly like CCP, and I enjoy EVE a lot; I'm just incredibly displeased that there is literally 0% chance of me playing Dust, despite being pumped about it for two years. I will never buy a PS3, both because of the security issues and because there is no reason why I would fork over several hundred dollars for one game-I don't care about the other PS3 exclusives that are out or are coming out (and I don't watch movies often, so Blu-Ray tech is also pointless to me). I'm not going to stop playing EVE, I just am frustrated that I can't play Dust. Call that whining if you will, I'm entitled to it after all the hype they built up around it.
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Sayyadina Drain
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Posted - 2011.06.08 22:10:00 -
[392]
The one silver lining I can see in this is that if I can raze an entire battlefield in orbit in a dreadnought, then I'll know I'm not killing fellow Xbox users.
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Roderak Pleem
Minmatar
Abandoned Land
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Posted - 2011.06.08 22:12:00 -
[393]
Not having read the entirety of the thread..
It seems to me that Dust514 being exclusive on the PS3 is for roughly the same reason Steam is exclusively on the PS3.
XBL is a closed, paid network, controlled entirely by MS. It works for MS and millions of XBOX users, it just doesn't make a good match for some content producers.
Personally, I'd feel more secure on sonys network now (not before the hacking incident) because it is, and will be far into the future, under a powerful microscope, everyone is watching. With that kind of scrutiny, people tend to get their stuff together.
HTFU
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Fredfredbug4
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.08 22:44:00 -
[394]
Originally by: Tinwe Linto
Originally by: Fredfredbug4
And no, I'm not a fanboy, I own all the consoles and play the regularly.
I like that you flame the "fanboys," but refute your own argument by flaming in the first place. A nice built-in counter to your own post.
On another note: I like that the vast majority of the people who "don't mind" it being on the PS3 are apparently taking the higher road...but also conveniently own PS3's themselves. If you're going to tell people not to complain, you might want to leave that out; it's like a rich person telling a poor person that money isn't important, it's rather hard to believe.
I honestly like CCP, and I enjoy EVE a lot; I'm just incredibly displeased that there is literally 0% chance of me playing Dust, despite being pumped about it for two years. I will never buy a PS3, both because of the security issues and because there is no reason why I would fork over several hundred dollars for one game-I don't care about the other PS3 exclusives that are out or are coming out (and I don't watch movies often, so Blu-Ray tech is also pointless to me). I'm not going to stop playing EVE, I just am frustrated that I can't play Dust. Call that whining if you will, I'm entitled to it after all the hype they built up around it.
The OP of a thread is the most important post in it. If you don't get your point across people will act irrationally.
Something along the lines of what you just told me is something that should be in your first post. The whine, why you are whining and how it can be solved. Just posting two or three sentences only leads to trouble.
Plus how could you create this thread and not expect a fanboy flamewar to occur? I'm sure you know how the internet works.
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Realdoll1
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Posted - 2011.06.08 23:26:00 -
[395]
Just another person raising my hand that Im disapointed in the PS3 exclusivety. I HATE consoles as is and barely mustered the strength to buy a 360. I cant rationalize spending another $400-$500 just to play Dust. Maybe someday it'll come out on PC or Xbox and I can get in on the action,, assuming Im still even playing and interested in EVE.
Whats odd is they made it exclusive to a device whose worst markets are EVE onlines best markets. If they wanted to reward or cater to their core market(Europe and North America) the only options are Xbox or PC.
Realldoll1
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Whyther
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Posted - 2011.06.09 00:15:00 -
[396]
Edited by: Whyther on 09/06/2011 00:16:23
I appreciate them wanting to branch out to the console market, but I think making it EXCLUSIVELY to the PS3 was a mistake. Latest NPD figures show the PS3 flat-lining and the 360 continuing in growth: http://www.armchairarcade.com/neo/node/4099
(I have both consoles, and was looking forward to this game tremendously, but I very much dislike playing FPS on them, so will not be purchasing DUST. I enjoy my FPS with a mouse/keyboard on my heavy duty gaming PC much much more.)
More than either console however, I want to understand why CCP chose to exclude it's biggest player base, the PC/Mac user?
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Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.09 00:34:00 -
[397]
Is there any tears left in this thread or have all been squeezed out already? Btw did you guys see the topic about ps3 getting keyb+mouse bundled with the dust? And the nice sharpshooter gun ps3 is getting?
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Kalen C'Fean
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Posted - 2011.06.09 00:50:00 -
[398]
Originally by: Whyther
Edited by: Whyther on 09/06/2011 00:16:23
I appreciate them wanting to branch out to the console market, but I think making it EXCLUSIVELY to the PS3 was a mistake. Latest NPD figures show the PS3 flat-lining and the 360 continuing in growth: http://www.armchairarcade.com/neo/node/4099
Your own source indicates these are US only figures, and admits that Sony is stronger in both Europe and Japan. Worldwide figures show that this year, so far, the PS3 has actually outsold the 360 - 4.3 million v 3.6 million. This carries on the trend from last year, where the PS3 also outsold the 360 - 14.4 million v 12.1 million. Whilst it has been the case that the 360 has been beating the PS3 quite soundly, in terms of sales, that's changing, and, in terms of total sales, Sony's managed to narrow the gap to 3.4 million - 50.6 million PS3 sales v 54 million 360 sales.
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:10:00 -
[399]
Originally by: Whyther
*snip*
More than either console however, I want to understand why CCP chose to exclude it's biggest player base, the PC/Mac user?
For the umptenth's time.. because they want to tap into another market (consoles) and the controller used there for FPS aren't competitive in comparison to PC+keyb+mouse (mediocre PC FPSer creams top console FPSer anytime). Balancing this would had been impossible, so they might as well forget about the console (casue people there don't log in to line up to be shot down all the time) or the PC version would suck donkey balls (to keep it in line with the console, no one would like to play it on PC).
And with all the bots/hacks/macros around and people's will for meta gaming you can kinda see another con for Dust on PC.
TL;DR: CCP wants consoles, environment isn't made for coexistence of PC/console FPS, PC gets dropped.
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Xenuria
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:34:00 -
[400]
Maybe you guys don't read the news or don't have your ears to the ground like I do but...
Anonymous is NOT finished with Sony...
Sony STILL stores accounts information in plain text all they did was move it all to a different server with better security. They are like Apple they don't learn from their mistakes.
LuLzSec has something planned especially for DUST 514... I am a neutral party in this whole thing. So when the EvE Economy is full of Dust Players with 999,999,999.00 Isk and Super Speed I don't want to hear a single person ***** because you all brought this on yourselves.
"Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:37:00 -
[401]
Originally by: Xenuria
Maybe you guys don't read the news or don't have your ears to the ground like I do but...
Anonymous is NOT finished with Sony...
Sure. But which part?
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:40:00 -
[402]
Originally by: Xenuria
Maybe you guys don't read the news or don't have your ears to the ground like I do but...
Anonymous is NOT finished with Sony...
and NATO is not finished with Anonymous.
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Xenuria
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:48:00 -
[403]
Originally by: Erichk Knaar
Originally by: Xenuria
Maybe you guys don't read the news or don't have your ears to the ground like I do but...
Anonymous is NOT finished with Sony...
and NATO is not finished with Anonymous.
Don't make me Laugh...
NO really don't I am eating right now.
"Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:49:00 -
[404]
Edited by: Tres Farmer on 09/06/2011 01:49:37
Originally by: Xenuria
*snip*
LuLzSec has something planned especially for DUST 514... I am a neutral party in this whole thing. So when the EvE Economy is full of Dust Players with 999,999,999.00 Isk and Super Speed I don't want to hear a single person ***** because you all brought this on yourselves.
Not to worry then ..as it will fail anyway, right?
Btw, didn't knew Dust was such a big fat target? Did I manage to miss the hype in the media?
Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody! |
CCK SUPERGOLDENCRISPS
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:51:00 -
[405]
Tell CCP we want DUST 514 on PC as well,
Join the following facebook group to petiton the port to PC.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_173050446088883&ap=1
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Xenuria
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:53:00 -
[406]
Originally by: Tres Farmer
Edited by: Tres Farmer on 09/06/2011 01:49:37
Originally by: Xenuria
*snip*
LuLzSec has something planned especially for DUST 514... I am a neutral party in this whole thing. So when the EvE Economy is full of Dust Players with 999,999,999.00 Isk and Super Speed I don't want to hear a single person ***** because you all brought this on yourselves.
Not to worry then ..as it will fail anyway, right?
Btw, didn't knew Dust was such a big fat target? Did I manage to miss the hype in the media?
It's not that Dust was always a big target..
Hackers like water, Travel the path of least resistance.
Sony is notoriously easy to break into, to that end dust will be also.
"Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Xenuria
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.09 01:55:00 -
[407]
Originally by: CCK SUPERGOLDENCRISPS
Tell CCP we want DUST 514 on PC as well,
Join the following facebook group to petiton the port to PC.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=group_173050446088883&ap=1
SPOILER ALERT: DUST 514 will come to PC in a year. Nowhere in the agreement that CCP made with sony dose CCP promise that they won't be bringing DUST 514 to PC. Rest assured CCP will bring Dust to PC.. Just not in the near future.
"Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Nac MacFeegle
Argyll Manufacturing
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:00:00 -
[408]
Bringing me nicely back to my point...
With further information... not easily made available here on eveonline.com, I might add, regarding the mechanics... I really don't have a dog in this fight. I don't do 0.0 gameplay, and a bunch of console ****ers fighting over 0.0 planets doesn't affect me. Directly, anyway. "War is good for business..."
The point is, however, just what deal CCP struck with Sony. I still want either publically posted (frontpage on eveonline.com, or preferably a press release on ccpgames.com) a statement of just what EVE Online data is being shared with Sony. CCP has made bad decisions regarding their customer base in the past, and Sony has more recently proven themselves incapable of securing data.
I do not think that this too arduous of a request for CCP executives to fulfill.
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WARNING: Poster has probably been drinking. Proceed with caution.
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Xenuria
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:04:00 -
[409]
Originally by: Nac MacFeegle
Bringing me nicely back to my point...
With further information... not easily made available here on eveonline.com, I might add, regarding the mechanics... I really don't have a dog in this fight. I don't do 0.0 gameplay, and a bunch of console ****ers fighting over 0.0 planets doesn't affect me. Directly, anyway. "War is good for business..."
The point is, however, just what deal CCP struck with Sony. I still want either publically posted (frontpage on eveonline.com, or preferably a press release on ccpgames.com) a statement of just what EVE Online data is being shared with Sony. CCP has made bad decisions regarding their customer base in the past, and Sony has more recently proven themselves incapable of securing data.
I do not think that this too arduous of a request for CCP executives to fulfill.
Either submit a formal Request and wait 4 months or look it up on wikileaks. It's on the internet I have seen it myself but it's kind of hard to pin down as its always 404ing.
"Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Erichk Knaar
Caldari
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:12:00 -
[410]
Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Erichk Knaar
Originally by: Xenuria
Maybe you guys don't read the news or don't have your ears to the ground like I do but...
Anonymous is NOT finished with Sony...
and NATO is not finished with Anonymous.
Don't make me Laugh...
NO really don't I am eating right now.
I'm not the chantards who went all "come at me bro" at the international mil-ind complex guys. I predict that will end in tears/drone strikes.
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Nac MacFeegle
Argyll Manufacturing
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:14:00 -
[411]
Originally by: Xenuria
Either submit a formal Request and wait 4 months or look it up on wikileaks. It's on the internet I have seen it myself but it's kind of hard to pin down as its always 404ing.
Call me mad, but i'd like to think CCP as a better company than to hide behidn bureaucracy and silence.
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WARNING: Poster has probably been drinking. Proceed with caution.
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Melistery
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:19:00 -
[412]
I think we should stop arguing about why it should or should not be an exclusive title, and instead all agree that...
...DUST 514 will fail regardless of console or exclusivity.
List YOUR thoughts!
Mine are: It's a CCP game and console gamers tolerate terrible games far less than PC gamers do. EVE Online is great. You know, after years and years of patches. And that part that's supposed to make it unique, the hundreds of players in a battle at once, doesn't work very well.
I predict this game gets released and falls flat on its face because it's just broken or because of lag.
I think CCP has taken its playerbase's patience for granted. We're patient only because we have hundreds of dollars and thousands of hours of time invested into the game already. You can't rage quit something that's roughly the same cost as a used car and sucked more time than ones kids. $60 console game? Easy.
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Tu Ko
Legio Geminatus
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:22:00 -
[413]
"eve has never had database lag. Try harder."
unsuccessful troll?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:22:00 -
[414]
Originally by: Xenuria
Sony is notoriously easy to break into, to that end dust will be also.
Soà what, exactly, is it you believe these supposed Sony-hackers will be able to do with/to Dust?
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Ildryn
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:25:00 -
[415]
I don't own a ps3....but this gives me a pretty good reason to buy one. Wanted a blue-ray player anyway...now i get one of those too.
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Tu Ko
Legio Geminatus
Gentlemen's Agreement
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:32:00 -
[416]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Xenuria
Sony is notoriously easy to break into, to that end dust will be also.
Soà what, exactly, is it you believe these supposed Sony-hackers will be able to do with/to Dust?
Dust is using both Eve Isk and Microtransaction cash in its economy. We have already seen the lengths that 'hackers' will go to get passwords for Eve accounts, phishing mails and trojans. The pay off is when they sell Isk for real money, somewhere else. Now imagine if you are one of those with 'skillz' and on the same network there is both Credit Card purchases and Account information... all in plain text...
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.09 02:35:00 -
[417]
Originally by: Tu Ko
Dust is using both Eve Isk and Microtransaction cash in its economy. We have already seen the lengths that 'hackers' will go to get passwords for Eve accounts, phishing mails and trojans. The pay off is when they sell Isk for real money, somewhere else. Now imagine if you are one of those with 'skillz' and on the same network there is both Credit Card purchases and Account information... all in plain text...
Ok, so some standard account theft in other words? Meh.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Xenuria
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.09 03:16:00 -
[418]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Tu Ko
Dust is using both Eve Isk and Microtransaction cash in its economy. We have already seen the lengths that 'hackers' will go to get passwords for Eve accounts, phishing mails and trojans. The pay off is when they sell Isk for real money, somewhere else. Now imagine if you are one of those with 'skillz' and on the same network there is both Credit Card purchases and Account information... all in plain text...
Ok, so some standard account theft in other words? Meh.
Tippia baby, I don't think you understand the gravity of this preposterous conundrum.
PSN is going to be DIRECTLY linked to the TranQ Servers.
That means a 1-1 Sharing of ALL information that eve players have.
It's over man.. Game Over..
LuLzSec is going to hack the crap out of PSN and all the account information and passwords for all the eve accounts will be leaked also.
Mark my words CCP will not soon recover from this pants on head decision.
"Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.09 03:18:00 -
[419]
Originally by: Xenuria
PSN is going to be DIRECTLY linked to the TranQ Servers.
Of course it will, otherwise it would be hard to log in, wouldn't it?
Quote:
That means a 1-1 Sharing of ALL information that eve players have.
No, it does not.
ùùù
ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
ù Karath Piki |
Quality Poaster SEEEEE
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Posted - 2011.06.09 03:26:00 -
[420]
Originally by: Xenuria
It's over man.. Game Over..
LuLzSec is going to hack the crap out of PSN and all the account information and passwords for all the eve accounts will be leaked also.
Mark my words CCP will not soon recover from this pants on head decision.
I know this is ~trolling~ and all, but on the off chance you're serious... YOU STILL HAVE TIME TO GET OUT, BIOMASS YOUR CHARACTERS, UNSUBSCRIBE, GO GO XENURIA THEY WILL NEVER GET TO YOU!
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