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Zeko Rena
Caldari
Tankt
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:00:00 -
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Edited by: Zeko Rena on 10/06/2011 01:02:01
PS3 exclusive is a bit of a shame, i have been playing EVE since mid 2004 (even had a go in beta) and was always wishing for somthing like Dust 514.
I own both consoles and a decent pc, and of the three i have found the PS3 the worst for shooters (due to its lanky controller)
I think you can buy a keyboard and mouse for PS3?
But even if you can knowing the console market you will have to buy a specific PS3 keyboard and mouse for it to work, and i don't want to have to buy a game and then two more items to enjoy playing it.
Not saying i WONT get it, have to see how news goes over the next few months leading upto its release but limiting it to one console has put me off quite a lot, especially since the controller is terrible for shooters.
Althought that is just my opinion some people may find the PS3 controller amazing for shooters :)
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Oh yea the other worrying thing is the security of PSN, even though its all back up now, still a worry, not only for the security side, but also it was down for a long time 
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:05:00 -
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 Originally by: Zeko Rena
I think you can buy a keyboard and mouse for PS3?
Yes.
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But even if you can knowing the console market you will have to buy a specific PS3 keyboard and mouse for it to work, and i don't want to have to buy a game and then two more items to enjoy playing it.
No. It supports any HID-compliant mouse and keyboard.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Thorradin
State Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:10:00 -
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Edited by: Thorradin on 10/06/2011 01:12:23
not worth pointing out bad trolling.
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Zeko Rena
Caldari
Tankt
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:13:00 -
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 Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Zeko Rena
I think you can buy a keyboard and mouse for PS3?
Yes.
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But even if you can knowing the console market you will have to buy a specific PS3 keyboard and mouse for it to work, and i don't want to have to buy a game and then two more items to enjoy playing it.
No. It supports any HID-compliant mouse and keyboard.
Oh okay, nice, thanks Tippia, that makes it less of an issue.
Only problem now is that PS3 is hooked upto the TV as i mostly use it as a Blu-Ray player, and the coffee table just won't work well for a keyboard and mouse.
God now i need a 2nd PS3 too hook up to my PC screen so i can multi task between the two 
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.10 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Zeko Rena
Oh okay, nice, thanks Tippia, that makes it less of an issue.
Only problem now is that PS3 is hooked upto the TV as i mostly use it as a Blu-Ray player, and the coffee table just won't work well for a keyboard and mouse.
God now i need a 2nd PS3 too hook up to my PC screen so i can multi task between the two
àthat said, I do recall seeing PS3-branded keyboards for outrageous prices, so you can bet they're trying to get that juicy fanboy cash. 
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Xenuria
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.10 03:25:00 -
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For the record Tippia I have yet to lose a single Guardian Vexor with that fit.
It is gank proof in more ways then one.
"Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.10 03:28:00 -
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Edited by: Tippia on 10/06/2011 03:28:44
Originally by: Xenuria
For the record Tippia I have yet to lose a single Guardian Vexor with that fit.
That's because you don't own any.
It isn't gankproof in any sense of the word.
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ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à
you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö
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Jos Wijnants
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Posted - 2011.06.10 07:15:00 -
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miss the times that pc-players and mostly the 360-players flaming eachohter about a console-exclusive game.
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Kalen C'Fean
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Posted - 2011.06.10 20:13:00 -
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Originally by: Phigmeta
Your confusing "easy to develop" with "easy to Code badly"
When it comes to insecure and badly thought thru coding ... yeah sony wins in that category every-time.
No, I'm taking your words and summarizing them - which was that coding such a game as Dust 514 is easier and more straightforward on the PS3 than on the 360, which you now seem to be trying to imply is not the case, without actually saying that. This leads me to conclude that it is, in fact, the case, but you don't want to admit that CCP are correct.
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The question of who is at fault is easy .... CCP made the choice to go exclusive on a system that is LESS CAPABLE of providing a secure and an all around better expericance for the end user .... so what ? they can basicly sell thier own IGC
Yeah i blame CCP for putting their greed above the satisfaction of their customers. Doesn't make CCP liable ... just means that it will end in failure.
As I already pointed out, CCP is asking for no monthly subscription, and there are also reports that Dust will be completely free to download. So, apparantly, wanting to make any kind of money at all from Dust is 'greed'. CCP is actually a business, you know, not a charity.
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Lets see .. where to start? Valve's Executive staff are crooks ... and anyone who lives around here knows that. I will remind you that Valve doesn't like XBL for one reason and one reason only
Steam.
Your talking about a corp that built Steam to turn their best game into episodes ... then after they got a bunch of money for it basically screwed the franchise and concentrated on different IP. All while providing an "XBL-like experiance for PC" and then complaining about XBL the entire time.
Frankly, Steam is what Windows Live should have been - and utterly, completely and totally failed to be. So, maybe you are correct to say that Valve wanted to give an 'XBL-like experience for PC' (which, personally, I rather doubt, but it is within the realms of possibility). If they did, their effort was an astonishingly large amount better than the effort of the people who actually invented XBL.
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OH and BTW .. steam is really just glorified DRM in case ya didn't know. The main issue they had with XBL was the inability to have thier own DRM.
Read up on Steam for PS3.
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Of course people also let sony screw them on the calling-home DRM silliness.
You're getting your DRM confused. Sony Music is the one that decided to put rootkits on some CDs as DRM, and it was Sony Computer Entertainment that caused a bit of a kerfluffle with putting out a PS3 update that removed the ability to install Linux. It is others that have a 'phone home' DRM - you know, like the activation in Windows.
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Fact is that XBOX live is a better platform for updating .. and yes the Partner Portal is kinda sucktactic ....
.... but at least it still up.
Well, speaking personally, the recent events are the first time I've had any major problem with PSN for my PS3. Sony apologised to me, as part of their user base, by giving me free stuff for an interruption in their free service when it came back online - which it actually is, contrary to what you seem to think. In Microsoft's paid online service for my 360, I have never been given free stuff as an apology for not being able to use it.
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If you knew ANYTHING about the PSN back-end and how one connects with it .. well you probably would block it at your firewall.
so .. well i am not terribly surprised that it doesn't make a lot of sense to you.
I love my PS3 ... i never use PSN because its terrible but .. many of the games are awesome and even thought the updating scheme is TERRI-BAD ...
Here's something that doesn't seem to have occurred to you - whether the PSN's security is good, bad or indifferent, maybe the openness of the PSN way of doing things allows CCP to take charge of Dust's security themselves.
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Kalen C'Fean
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Posted - 2011.06.10 20:44:00 -
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Originally by: Zeko Rena
Edited by: Zeko Rena on 10/06/2011 01:02:01
PS3 exclusive is a bit of a shame, i have been playing EVE since mid 2004 (even had a go in beta) and was always wishing for somthing like Dust 514.
I own both consoles and a decent pc, and of the three i have found the PS3 the worst for shooters (due to its lanky controller)
I think you can buy a keyboard and mouse for PS3?
But even if you can knowing the console market you will have to buy a specific PS3 keyboard and mouse for it to work, and i don't want to have to buy a game and then two more items to enjoy playing it.
You're thinking of Microsoft. They are very guilty of taking a fairly standard item, then altering it in some way for their console, so you have to buy a Microsoft-specific one as a replacement/upgrade. The PS3 will accept most USB keyboards and mice, and many Blutooth wireless ones as well. However, most FPS games don't support a keyboard and mouse, and it looks like Dust might be one that also doesn't.
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Not saying i WONT get it, have to see how news goes over the next few months leading upto its release but limiting it to one console has put me off quite a lot, especially since the controller is terrible for shooters.
Althought that is just my opinion some people may find the PS3 controller amazing for shooters :)
Well, if you're more comfortable with a 360 controller, if you search around, there are a few third-party controllers that are for the PS3, but look, function and feel like a 360 one, and I also believe you can get adaptors that make actual 360 pads work as well. I can't tell you how good or bad they are, though - personally, I like the PS3 pad just as much as the 360 one.
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Rey Bahn
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Posted - 2011.06.10 22:41:00 -
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This might have some relevance to part of the discussion in this thread.
EPIC Games just got hacked -
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/epic-games-website-and-forums-/1221763?page=1
And Codemasters too -
http://www.develop-online.net/news/37993/Thousands-affected-in-Codemasters-data-hack
A majority of responses here have alluded to PSN security and this demonstrates how vulnerable these systems can be.
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Xenuria
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.11 02:00:00 -
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Originally by: Rey Bahn
This might have some relevance to part of the discussion in this thread.
EPIC Games just got hacked -
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/epic-games-website-and-forums-/1221763?page=1
And Codemasters too -
http://www.develop-online.net/news/37993/Thousands-affected-in-Codemasters-data-hack
A majority of responses here have alluded to PSN security and this demonstrates how vulnerable these systems can be.
Nice...
Anonymous The World Leader in Forced Penetration Testing!
"Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Selinate
Amarr
Mocking Birds
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Posted - 2011.06.11 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Xenuria
Originally by: Rey Bahn
This might have some relevance to part of the discussion in this thread.
EPIC Games just got hacked -
http://forums.gametrailers.com/thread/epic-games-website-and-forums-/1221763?page=1
And Codemasters too -
http://www.develop-online.net/news/37993/Thousands-affected-in-Codemasters-data-hack
A majority of responses here have alluded to PSN security and this demonstrates how vulnerable these systems can be.
Nice...
Anonymous The World Leader in Forced Penetration Testing!
R*ape jokes, a special low for special idiots...
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Alpha Wolfgang
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.11 07:21:00 -
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Edited by: Alpha Wolfgang on 11/06/2011 07:23:14
CCP are true capsuleers... i have my tinfoil hat on right now, so here it goes.
CCP makes an mmo, which gains popularity. they acquire the resources to start making their first weapon against an opposing corporation, microsoft. that weapon is dust 514, which if all goes as planned turns out exceptionally successful and microsoft takes note of that success and opens up xbox live to work with mmo companies later on. ccp makes another dust, or ports it to xbox and makes a killing in sales and advertisements. but that is not the mission... the mission was to open up xbox live so ccp (hired by CCCP) can hack into the bank accounts of millions of microsoft customers and steal their cash! most of eve is about corporate warfare, and what better way to hide in the open than to make an MMO about corporate warfare with very modern'esque factions and empires 0_o.
if thats true please dont kill me, im looking for work ;)
-remove tinfoil hats-
i wish dust would have came to 360... my xbox broke last year and i quit xbox for a while and didnt renew my subscription to xbox live. then i see more info about Dust 514 and that it will be coming to xbox, so i go out and buy ANOTHER XBOX (from a friend) and get another year of xbox live. just the other day i seen that dust is PS3 EXCLUSIVE.... i shat bricks and ate several hundred ants around the house in anger... along with rants on facebook that no one knew what i was talking about. to sum it up, -1 dust player. for shame, i am very good at bad company 2, i would love to buy myself a bunch of shiny stuff on eve and ship it to myself on xbl. i can rant about this all night but i wont. *eats another ant*
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Ehdward
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Posted - 2011.06.11 11:06:00 -
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Best selling console is the Nintendo DS.
Why no DS version? GOD, CCP IS SO DUMB!
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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
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Posted - 2011.06.11 11:22:00 -
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Originally by: Captain Davison
Yeah, um, HELL NO. Not before the fiasco of the past several months, and especially not after.
This a thousand times. Sony makes horrible products and rips off their customers with substandard services. How substandard?
Failing to implement a fix on a known vulnerability for several months substandard.
Failing to notify their customers of the compromise for days after it occurred (no doubt trying to find out if they could avoid telling the public at all).
Failing to take responsibility for their lackadaisical system security (instead, lets just blame the hackers who were DDOS'ing us, get them investigated, and allow the real criminals to get away Scott free to steal some more).
Blowing off Congressional hearings (Yeah I know, the hearings are a joke, but still bad form not to show up).
I stopped buying Sony a looooong time ago. I had a good reason then (products are crap), and have an even better reason now (the games division of Sony is a burning, sinking ship, and the products are crap).
I like the idea of DUST514, and even didn't mind it being consol, but only PS3? Man, good luck with that CCP, good luck with that.
On the other hand has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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StrykerZan
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Posted - 2011.06.11 15:29:00 -
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I'm looking forward to the future information you guys release about Dust.
If all goes well I'll be picking up a PS3 for the FPS.
Thanks for your time and obvious patience CCP
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Valantharia
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Posted - 2011.06.11 21:28:00 -
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PS3 exclusivity saddens me.
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Vasela Draxdon
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:25:00 -
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Work out a deal with microsoft guys, if its involves some form of subscription to sort out more comprehensive cross platform access that wouldnt be the end of the world, the community on the whole will pay if they have to, they already pay for eve because they love it lol.
PS3 only will damage the games accessibility for the vast majority of the player base, dust is just a title to sony, to the eve community its an extension of their online lives.
No xbox and NO PC! this is a huge mistake that will condem dust to being just another 3rd rate bargain bin pickup, not to mention wrecking poeples faith in CCP as a company that listens to and cares about its customers.
Still have faith guys x
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Dimitri Fukoyama
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:38:00 -
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Eve-on-planets is something that eve players have been wanting for a long time. Thats like patching walking in stations on PS3 exclusively...
Although they never promised it like walking in stations, its still sort of the same thing.
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Bullyboutya
Minmatar
Taxxon Industrial Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:46:00 -
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I'm a newb in EVE been playing just for one week. I've been gaming for 30 years and EVE is by far the best game I've ever played. I come from an era of lines and dots for video games. The concept of Dust is the reason why I got EVE.
I own a PS3 I heard about EVE from a FPS forum called MAG(Which has the same concept as Dust) except the Dev for MAG was too poor to follow thru on the vision they had.
This is where CCP/Sony stepped in CCP is taking the baton from the Dev of MAG and making it better. What you don't realize is that there is a huge!!!!!!! market for FPS team based objective games that require you to think.
The players that will be playing dust will be your hardcore FPS team-based/Objective players. Which will be older players like myself. I do not play FPS games MAG was my first and Dust will be my 2nd.
CCP is calling Dust the thinking mans shooter kids do not want to think. Do not sleep on the Dust players I know of a lot I mean a lot of folks drooling to get in the dust Beta.
Xbox 360 can't handle what the PS3 does hardware and memory wise. The point is doesn't matter what console it's on it's who are the type of players that you will attract. Xbox is known for shooters that don't require you to think.
CCP and Sony is very smart there is a huugeeeeeeee market for the Concept Dust and MAG have. Seeing what CCP have done for EVE there is no doubt in my mind that Dust will receive the same type of treatment.
As a man who have been gaming since 1980 Console and PC players being able to play together is the future of gaming and I'm all in for innovation :)
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Gutuie
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Posted - 2011.06.20 18:52:00 -
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Edited by: Gutuie on 20/06/2011 18:53:26
basically Dust is only a shooter, there are so many in the market, they try to make like something special it was and will be a shooter ppl will get bored of him before many of us will get bored of eve. so if u want to buy a ps3 for that i think is better to chose other shooter from market it will be cheeper
all the pr/marketing they are doing and some interconnection with eve i think is only feature of a feature of a... in the big CCP style
My point is Dust will be a fail game who will eat a lot of money and resources but with possibility to chat with eve players  |
000Hunter000
Gallente
Missiles 'R' Us
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Posted - 2011.06.20 19:04:00 -
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Dust? Isn't that that shooter thingy? Good thing i'm never gonna play that, i want internet spaceships not fps so they can run it on a c64 for all i care
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Allan Terabyte
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Posted - 2011.06.20 23:16:00 -
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I have been looking forward to Dust 514 since the day it was announced a few years back. Being a PS3 exclusive really disappointed me since I don't own a PS3. I'm a PC gamer and loved the look and feel of Dust 514 and it made me remember all those fun times I had on Battlefield 2142. I also own a Xbox 360 but the main reason I bought it was that it had a larger selection of exclusive games and the simple fact I already own a Blu-ray player. Not to mention console gaming in general is a lot more comfortable than sitting at your computer, but computer games always look better than their console variations. Where am I going with this? I don't know, all I know is that I am seriously considering buying a PS3 just to play Dust 514, that's how much I love the EVE universe and CCP.
On that note CCP I implore you to make DUST 514 also for the PC and not just the PS3.
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