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trader tom Bererund	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:33:00 - [181] I have only one thing to say my fellow eve pilots. GIVE CCP A MESSAGE THEY WON'T SOON FORGET!!! remember guys the planet belongs to the 12 year olds. But in space, that belongs to us!!! i was on the page for the ps3 video and i noticed something. the dev that was answering the questions did not answer a single question that was raised about why it is not being a multi-console game nor answered a single eve player's question. nice ccp to totally insult your true customer base. i will even bet that ccp will protect the snot nose little 12 year olds by saying piracy or deliberate bombing of planets will not be allowed unless you are actively participating in the fight. on the planet maybe but in eve space, THAT BELONGS TO US PILOTS! I SAY LETS PUT CCP ON NOTICE! we will destroy any and all ships participating in the dust514 gameplay. to put it short, we show the little snots what being an eve pilot really is. "there are no rewards without the risk" time to put those words to the test and see if ccp will honor those words. what about it dev? care to answer or reply to it? mark my words pilots. we will be forgotten in all this. this will become like wow real quick. its already starting. take away the learning skills. Make missioning easier. look at the total nurfing of null. mark my words this game will become a wow clone. so what about it dev? make an honest effort to ease us pilots. you will end up sharing ALL of our information with sony. you will have no choice. i for one along with prob 50k other pilots will leave this game. you have no answers for that one cause you know it will happen. you have no answers for any of this cause you know i'm right. answer this if you dare.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:34:00 - [182] Originally by: Herping yourDerp call me crazy, but US and EU are the largest eve market... and based on that, 360 would make the most sense. Perhaps. But Microsoft didn't want the business. vOv Quote: do people in japan even play eve They're about 1%, according to wikipedia, if you trust that numberà ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Max Gades	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:35:00 - [183] Edited by: Max Gades on 07/06/2011 06:36:12 Originally by: Pyro Ninja Originally by: Nac MacFeegle Originally by: CCP Sreegs Originally by: Nac MacFeegle Sorry, I'm still not convinced or happy. I want concrete and legally-binding answers. You got as concrete an answer as is possible to give by anyone and our legally binding privacy and other agreements we've made with you are still just as legally binding. Aside from telling you flat out you have nothing to worry about there's not much more I can say. Press release. You have a month. Wow really? Your just ****ed. One the Eula states they will not disclose information. Two, There is no need to give SOE any user information since Eve online is not played on there network. Three, the only way for SOE to get your information is if you sign up and play one of their games on their network. If your so worried about your personal information getting out why are you even online?? To be more secure you should delete your online account and blow up your computer. Oh and since the national power grid in the good old USA is hacked by foreign sources on an almost daily basis, you should shut off your power, your cell phone is being traced as well so you will have to turn that off and destroy it. Sony is not the only company that has been hacked before, almost any place you put your personal info into has been hack at one point. Grow up get a life no one cares that you like to watch animal Originally by:** CCP Sreegs Originally by: Max Gades Edited by: Max Gades on 07/06/2011 03:53:25 why am i going to buy a game thats with a company that cant keep its online server safe from hacking or keep it up and online? second is the dust 514 server going to be just like the sony online server? supposably unhackable? thanks i like keeping my personal information as my own. so answer the question of secruirty for dust514 and i might consider having second thoughs of no bother waisting money for another game system just to play it exclusivly... answer that please? There is no such thing as completely unhackable, there are merely degrees of hackability. Anyone telling you otherwise is blowing rays of sunshine in your eye. That's merely an academic statement. We will speak more about the interaction between EVE and Dust in the near future as it becomes more final. As I stated here http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1523611&page=3#88 we aren't currently planning on pushing any of your EVE related information to Sony. notice the "we aren't currently planning on pushing any of your EVE related information to Sony" and think about it... that right there means what you just stated hold no weight. unless they officaly state that they will not publicly there is half of the eve community that has no peace of mind over this. think about it for a few.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:36:00 - [184] Originally by: Max Gades Originally by: Herping yourDerp Originally by: CLONE 9 Have PS3 = Happy Have xbox or pc = Mummy mummy they won't make the sky orange just for me and ohhhhh the sky, the sky is falling and my tears will drown us all. Help help I've just peed myself. I have a PS3 so my pants are dry. If only we could convert the angst on this forum to electricity, then the worlds power problems would be over. hi i announce a game 3 years ago every time i show it i show it on 360 with 360 controlers a 360 magazine writes articles on it i never say it wont be 360 during development i wait until 3 years later to say, oh yea next year the game comes out, its for PS3 only. it has nothing to do with what people *** about, they said dust wont be on PC years ago. quit crying about it. they have hardly if at all hinted at the game going to sony... then OH HEY SONY EXCLUSIVE. stab in the back is the only way to say it. when dust dies, and it will die, maybe CCP will admit they failed or at least figure out that a 360 version of the game might have lasted longer. unfortunately, knowing how gamers work, and i know how different consoles yield different gamers. PS3 kids are almost as bad as PC elitist.. they want the best graphics, dont and are more solo then team based. based on what i have seen, graphics are lacking the game was made for 360. its apparent. PS3 gamers want to ride solo. Dust looks like you need a team. PS3 gamers... well... it seems they don't like shooters as much as 360 gamers... yet again another awesome observation that i love plus 1! How so? All you can read there is biased ***ing of a XBOX owner that Dust won't come to his console for the foreseeable future.. Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:36:00 - [185] i understand them not confirming a 360 version if sony indeed paid for a timed exclusive... but if they would say something like " we arnt leaving 360 out of the EVE fun" or something like that... it would ease everyone and maybe save dust
Tinwe Linto	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:38:00 - [186] Originally by: Tres Farmer It wasn't the LAUNCH of Dust514.. it was just an announcement that it will come to the PS3 exclusively. If you're in marketing you should KNOW the difference. Also, they didn't **** off THEIR potential customers, as THEIR potential customers are PS3 owners that want to play an FPSMMORPG. Microsoft removed the XBOX owners from the equation, CCP wasn't at fault, except if you want to play Dust514 on MS-terms (CCP doesn't want you to play Dust on MS-terms). CCP removed the PC owners from the equation as they want to diversify their customer base to include consoles besides PCs. It's all there in plain straight facts. Why do you people don't get that and move on with your lives? Their potential customers, until E3, were any people that wanted to play an FPSMMORPG, since it was not exclusive to the PS3 until they announced that. And it's CCP's prerogative to deny us playing on MS terms-I just think they'll find that playing on Sony's terms means a hole in their wallet. Also: "CCP removed the PC owners from the equation as they want to diversify their customer base to include consoles besides PCs." I'm aware they decided not to put it on PC years ago, but might they not have changed their minds when the MS wouldn't play ball? That statement doesn't make sense to me anyway. Why would CCP remove potential customers? I understand diversifying, but the PC gamer market is large, so catering to both would have been more profitable than just catering to the PS3 market. I would think that it was less about removing PC gamers from the equation than about the ease of preventing things like aimbots on consoles vs on PC's. I don't know why a company would choose to limit who it sells its product to, all that does is decrease revenue.
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:39:00 - [187] Originally by: trader tom Bererund waahhh waaaaaaahhhh panic! PANIC! DON'T YOU L-I-S-T-E-N? P-A-N-I-C!!! Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Shardivh	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:42:00 - [188] Wow CCP. Just Wow. You took an idea that could have added a whole new dimension to the EVE universe, bringing thousands of players to both games, and have not only shot it dead but ground it down into dust (no pun intended.) I was looking forward to playing DUST, a lot actually. I was hoping so much that the relative silence about DUST and part of the reason for the entire "Carbon Framework" you've been talking about was so that you could port what you had of the game so far onto PC and continue development from there. That would have been the smart decision. Why? Becuase the PC is an indefinite platform. It will never go out of date, never be superceeded by an entirely new "thing." Consoles are. Regularly. And their backwards compatability always sucks. But now to not even develop it for both major platforms? (I get that microsoft is a pain in the ass, but come on!) So, you decide to continue developing a game for an aging, expensive console backed by a rubbish company. How much did they pay you CCP? I hope it was a lot. (Side question, do Sony even have any money left???) It is the twilight of the current generation of consoles life. DUST wont be released for some time, and its intent seems to be a big, ongoing game that lasts for a while (fat chance now). My prediction, by the time anyone puts a DUST disk into their PS3 drive, they will have a tech magazine on the floor next to them with "Playstation 4 launch date announced!" on the cover. CCP, please release the game on PC as well. Its not like you as a company to tie yourselves down and get in to bed with a major publisher for the money (which you wont get anyway!) We arnt going to mind a delay in the development if it means that this game could have some longevity attached to it. /end annoyed rant
Hydraka	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:47:00 - [189] Edited by: Hydraka on 07/06/2011 06:47:18 Originally by: Shardivh CCP, please release the game on PC as well. How about starting by releasing it on xbox as we have expected for the past.. oh I don't know 2 years? This is sad. Very, very sad.
Tippia Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:47:00 - [190] Originally by: Shardivh Side question, do Sony even have any money left??? Revenue ù $88.205 billion Operating income ù $342 million Net income ù $437 million Total assets ù $188.694 billion Total equity ù $60.741 billion Cost of PSN breach ù $171 million Yes. Yes they do. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki

Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:48:00 - [191] Originally by: Tinwe Linto Originally by: Tres Farmer It wasn't the LAUNCH of Dust514.. it was just an announcement that it will come to the PS3 exclusively. If you're in marketing you should KNOW the difference. Also, they didn't ** off THEIR potential customers, as THEIR potential customers are PS3 owners that want to play an FPSMMORPG. Microsoft removed the XBOX owners from the equation, CCP wasn't at fault, except if you want to play Dust514 on MS-terms (CCP doesn't want you to play Dust on MS-terms). CCP removed the PC owners from the equation as they want to diversify their customer base to include consoles besides PCs. It's all there in plain straight facts. Why do you people don't get that and move on with your lives? Their potential customers, until E3, were any people that wanted to play an FPSMMORPG, since it was not exclusive to the PS3 until they announced that. So, people on the Wii missed out on that one too I guess? Ya know.. when there was talk about HALO being created I wanted it. It was marketed for PC.. then MS grabbed the company and made it XBOX only. Was I miffed? Yes. Did it matter to MS or HALO? No. Originally by:** Tinwe Linto And it's CCP's prerogative to deny us playing on MS terms-I just think they'll find that playing on Sony's terms means a hole in their wallet. And you know that for a fact because? Originally by: Tinwe Linto Also: "CCP removed the PC owners from the equation as they want to diversify their customer base to include consoles besides PCs." I'm aware they decided not to put it on PC years ago, but might they not have changed their minds when the MS wouldn't play ball? They wanted additional, different customers to the ones they already have, playing their SpaceshipMMO. Originally by: Tinwe Linto That statement doesn't make sense to me anyway. Why would CCP remove potential customers? One: A console FPS player cant compete with a PC FPS player. Two: Console FPS market is bigger than PC FPS market. Three: no one tried to tie a MMORPG with a FPSMMORPG yet. Originally by: Tinwe Linto I understand diversifying, but the PC gamer market is large, so catering to both would have been more profitable than just catering to the PS3 market. see above.. Originally by: Tinwe Linto I would think that it was less about removing PC gamers from the equation than about the ease of preventing things like aimbots on consoles vs on PC's. I don't know why a company would choose to limit who it sells its product to, all that does is decrease revenue. CCP doesn't cater to the hello-kitten-online nor the WoW nor the browser market with Eve-Online. Your point being? Also, I can't buy a 20,000 dollar Ferrari or Lamborghini.. those companies must be daft to miss out on potential customers. Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tres Farmer Gallente Federation Intelligence Service	Posted - 2011.06.07 06:51:00 - [192] Originally by: Shardivh snip Why? Becuase the PC is an indefinite platform. It will never go out of date, never be superceeded by an entirely new "thing." Consoles are. Regularly. And their backwards compatability always sucks. But now to not even develop it for both major platforms? (I get that microsoft is a pain in the ass, but come on!) So, you decide to continue developing a game for an aging, expensive console backed by a rubbish company. How much did they pay you CCP? I hope it was a lot. (Side question, do Sony even have any money left???) It is the twilight of the current generation of consoles life. DUST wont be released for some time, and its intent seems to be a big, ongoing game that lasts for a while (fat chance now). My prediction, by the time anyone puts a DUST disk into their PS3 drive, they will have a tech magazine on the floor next to them with "Playstation 4 launch date announced!" on the cover.snap So they put a DVD to the mag that let's you play Dust with the PS4? If the revenue comes from MT and subscriptions.. where is the problem to support the next gen PS, once it comes out? Get rid of Rooms with Doors - Shortrange Jumpdrives for everybody!
Tinwe Linto	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:04:00 - [193] Originally by: Tres Farmer So, people on the Wii missed out on that one too I guess? Ya know.. when there was talk about HALO being created I wanted it. It was marketed for PC.. then MS grabbed the company and made it XBOX only. Was I miffed? Yes. Did it matter to MS or HALO? No. Yes, people on the Wii miss out, as do people on a Commodore 64. The system isn't designed for an online FPS; your other inane comments, such as buying a 20,000 dollar Ferrari can also be referred back to this. You're saying that CCP's brand image is price-driven now, I take it? Because otherwise your analogy makes no sense; CCP is charging the same as other MMO's are for its game. There is significant overlap with 360 and PC gamers with Dust, and I still maintain that ignoring those customers seems unwise to me. I'm sure CCP has their reasons, but I'm not holding my breath on them telling me said reasons. Originally by: Tinwe Linto And it's CCP's prerogative to deny us playing on MS terms-I just think they'll find that playing on Sony's terms means a hole in their wallet. Originally by: Tres Farmer And you know that for a fact because? "I just think..." means it's a fact? Now who is reading too much into things? Originally by: Tinwe Linto Also: "CCP removed the PC owners from the equation as they want to diversify their customer base to include consoles besides PCs." I'm aware they decided not to put it on PC years ago, but might they not have changed their minds when the MS wouldn't play ball? Originally by: Tres Farmer They wanted additional, different customers to the ones they already have, playing their SpaceshipMMO. Because their current customers are obviously not going to be interested in a game that affects the one they are currently playing, right? Originally by: Tinwe Linto That statement doesn't make sense to me anyway. Why would CCP remove potential customers? Originally by: Tres Farmer One: A console FPS player cant compete with a PC FPS player. Two: Console FPS market is bigger than PC FPS market. Three: no one tried to tie a MMORPG with a FPSMMORPG yet. One: Why not? Two: Console FPS market+PC FPS market is bigger than either one individually, which was my point. Three: Yes...how is that relevant? Originally by: Tinwe Linto I would think that it was less about removing PC gamers from the equation than about the ease of preventing things like aimbots on consoles vs on PC's. I don't know why a company would choose to limit who it sells its product to, all that does is decrease revenue. Originally by: Tres Farmer CCP doesn't cater to the hello-kitten-online nor the WoW nor the browser market with Eve-Online. Your point being? My point being eliminating current customers from potential new customers is not good marketing, no matter how much effort you put into sophistry.
Shardivh	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:11:00 - [194] Originally by: Tinwe Linto Because their current customers are obviously not going to be interested in a game that affects the one they are currently playing, right? ^This. 150% agreed. Yes I have a 360 and a PC. Yes I want to play DUST (largely for this very reason) and yes I am mad about not being able to play it (inb4 "umad".)
Morphisat Hidden Agenda Deep Space Engineering	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:12:00 - [195] Apparently it'll be free to download from the PSN and you have to pay for weapons and stuff. Will this not just be like one of those game you download off the free marketplace, play a couple of times and just forget about it, if you don't have any ties or idea what CCP and EVE is ? It's hard to imagine this game will be anything other than a failure.
solosnake The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:13:00 - [196] PS3? Wow how much did Sony pay for that? CCP is losing the plot. So now our Eve gameplay will be influenced by Playstation players? :( Fail hard CCP. Seriously what in hell were you thinking? Why exclusive?? Stupid.
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:16:00 - [197] Originally by: solosnake PS3? Wow how much did Sony pay for that? CCP is losing the plot. So now our Eve gameplay will be influenced by Playstation players? :( Fail hard CCP. Seriously what in hell were you thinking? Why exclusive?? Stupid. I think it is hillarious how all you diehard braindead xbox fanboys jump straight to blaming CCP and not Microsoft. Valve is releasing steam on PS3, but not on the XBOX because microsoft is so ridiculously strict with how stuff that goes on there is handled, while Sony lets the companies do whatever they want. With all of CCP's microtransactions, and tie ins with the mmo, I guarantee that Microsoft was way too restrictive, or downright wouldn't let them do what they want.
Twilight Runner	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:20:00 - [198] Another fail, xbox and ps3 might have worked, but not just Ps3,
Nybbas Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:24:00 - [199] Originally by: Twilight Runner Another fail, xbox and ps3 might have worked, but not just Ps3, If anything having it only on one works better mechanics wise. Profit wise note so much, which is why I am pretty convinced Microsoft is the one behind this decision in the end, not CCP. They would be pretty study to cut out about 60% of the FPS fanbase. It's too bad all the xbox fanbois are so blind with rage to form a single rational thought.
Iok Sototh The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:25:00 - [200] Originally by: Nybbas I think it is hillarious how all you diehard braindead xbox fanboys jump straight to blaming CCP and not Microsoft. Valve is releasing steam on PS3, but not on the XBOX because microsoft is so ridiculously strict with how stuff that goes on there is handled Yupp, Microsoft is strict, and Sony is careless, as we have seen time and time again, from root kits to insecure data. And its the exclusivity I object to, its aligning Eve with a playerbase and console that is at odds with its core player base (hardcore PC gamers, who also tend to be Xbox users).

Sofa Raddis	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:26:00 - [201] Edited by: Sofa Raddis on 07/06/2011 07:26:33 Originally by: Nybbas I think it is hillarious how all you diehard braindead xbox fanboys jump straight to blaming CCP and not Microsoft. Valve is releasing steam on PS3, but not on the XBOX because microsoft is so ridiculously strict with how stuff that goes on there is handled, while Sony lets the companies do whatever they want. With all of CCP's microtransactions, and tie ins with the mmo, I guarantee that Microsoft was way too restrictive, or downright wouldn't let them do what they want. quoting for truth.
Telvani Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:28:00 - [202] CCP cash this out, get the money from early sales then let it die, looks fairly terrible, god only knows how its gunna screw with the market and it doesn't look like you are aiming it at the average FPS player. Not sure many capsulers really care about planets anyway, I know I don't I hope for our sake this makes CCP a load of cash and they dont feel the need to drag it along, maybe if it makes them enough money they can just stop releasing crap, gimmicky patches for EVE.
Azahni Vah'nos Amarr	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:32:00 - [203] Originally by: Phigmeta Originally by: Azahni Vah'nos So you guys seriously think CCP would have excluded the Xbox without a good reason? really? Take a step back and think about it. It's obvious Microsoft didn't want to allow Dust514 to work as envisioned by CCP on the Xbox network so your anger should be directed to Microsoft. I can't find some comments made by Hilmar at E3 again at the moment, but it seemed to me if you read between the lines that Hilmar was disappointed that they couldn't come to some aggreement with Microsoft to have Dust514 on Xbox. (if i can find the site again I will post the link) And for those asking for Dust514 on PC, I gave up playing Global Agenda because I was sick to death of hackers in it. Getting shot by someone jet-packing from across the other side of the map doesn't equal fun. Aimbots and the like have destroyed FPS's on PC. I took a step back and thought about it ... yes i do think CCP does things without good reason (you don't go to null much do you) -Oh my, I don't go to null therefore I don't have a clue. I guess I've been put in my place huh. Then again perhaps not. And what makes you think MS "didn't want to allow Dust514 to work as envisioned by CCP" i mean really what makes it so obvious? -Fairly obvious because it's not on Xbox, thereby reducing potential sales/customers. What company doesn't want to make more money. Maybe because XBOX live doesn't allow external connections .... MEHHHH!!!! HL2 and Portal both do.... -Unless you've dealt with MS as a business then who knows what restrictions they would enforce on you. What seems more obvious is that MS didn't want a separate economy in xbox live and CCP wanted to screw you out of every dollar they can -Yes because businesses are there to make money, how dare they! And 'screwing you out of your money' is your choice whether you pay or not is ultimately up to you. isn't that more obvious ? think about it At the end of the day we will probably never know what happened between MS and CCP, so the exact reason for Dust514 not being on Xbox will remain unknown. But one thing for sure is that CCP didn't make the decision lightly or just to **** off the Xbox users.
Constantinus Maximus Paxian Expeditionary Force	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:33:00 - [204] Originally by: Telvani CCP cash this out, get the money from early sales then let it die That was the plan but all this polictical business bull**** means it didn't go to plan. Instead they sunk Eve into it and lost both products.
gintcheur	Posted - 2011.06.07 07:54:00 - [205] playing a FPS on console is a joke
baltec1	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:00:00 - [206] 7 pages of people raging about questions answered on the first page
kanamechan2	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:05:00 - [207] Good luck playing it on PS3 since they can't even keep there network up from hackers dumbest decision ever guys shoulda went with 360
MotherMoon Huang Yinglong	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:09:00 - [208] Originally by: Constantinus Maximus Originally by: Telvani CCP cash this out, get the money from early sales then let it die That was the plan but all this polictical business bull**** means it didn't go to plan. Instead they sunk Eve into it and lost both products. how can they get early salez form a f2p game?
uncle d0lan	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:10:00 - [209] hahahHAHahAHHAHAHAHh I lol'd at all the scrubs crying that their crappy xxxxboxxbxoxes wont be getting dust. why would you buy an xbox in the first place? it will get the RROD before you load da game.
kanamechan2	Posted - 2011.06.07 08:18:00 - [210] better a RRD then a hacked system



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