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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:30:00 -
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Originally by: Bubbles Udan
Originally by: Solstice Project Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 23:30:28 Dear nvidia, evga, alienware, etc...
I haven't changed my tampon in awhile, so please forgive what dribbles out next
You are sponsors of an official event with a staged ending, which makes me and several other people really unhappy.
I will not buy any of your products again and will actively advise people to not buy your products until the gay***s of alliance tournament finalists get disqualified.
I know it wasn't your fault, but losing sponsors hurts.
Yours sincerely, S!P
(we can have this all the way via e-mail directly to them, too) (i bet there's plenty of ppl that would join in) (guess it needs rewording, but i'm ****ed ^^)
You don't represent us.
He can represent me on that though...sign my name on it too will ya?
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Greniard So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
Who would watch if they didn't at least try hide it? Can you imagine the state Vancouver would be in if the Canucks just did circles on the ice? If you are going to exploit the format I think you need to be a little lot more covert with it.
I'm quite sure they could pull that off no problem, if there was any need to. You are not giving them enough credit.
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Lenasha
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:31:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Greniard
Originally by: Lenasha
Of course this is part of eve but in eve we have a tournament - (sporting event). The people who watched the sporting event are ****ed off because the last match (world cup or supper bowl) was fixed.
So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
Sure alot of people think that (.01% is still alot) but even if that is true at least they fake it and try to put on some kind of show. When they don't the whole fan base (not just the teams fans all of fans) gets up in arms. Do you think the NFL wouldn't come down hard on a team that was payed off to loose and didn't even try to hide it.
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Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:43:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Kittel AND banned from next 3 tournaments for setting up the final!
Makes EVE look bad!
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:50:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Greniard on 20/06/2011 00:56:02
Originally by: Lenasha
Originally by: Greniard
Originally by: Lenasha
Of course this is part of eve but in eve we have a tournament - (sporting event). The people who watched the sporting event are ****ed off because the last match (world cup or supper bowl) was fixed.
So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
Sure alot of people think that (.01% is still alot) but even if that is true at least they fake it and try to put on some kind of show. When they don't the whole fan base (not just the teams fans all of fans) gets up in arms. Do you think the NFL wouldn't come down hard on a team that was payed off to loose and didn't even try to hide it.
It wouldn't be any more difficult to covert this stuff up, compared to what they already did. I mean really. All they would've had to do is make sure outbreak had a "bad setup" and not publicly announce they are in fact the same group of people.
I mean you could have the same 10 players playing as completely different teams with a proxy and secondary credit cards. And there would be no connection what so ever.
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Im Super Gay
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:08:00 -
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Originally by: Greniard Edited by: Greniard on 20/06/2011 00:56:02
Originally by: Lenasha
Originally by: Greniard
Originally by: Lenasha
Of course this is part of eve but in eve we have a tournament - (sporting event). The people who watched the sporting event are ****ed off because the last match (world cup or supper bowl) was fixed.
So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
Sure alot of people think that (.01% is still alot) but even if that is true at least they fake it and try to put on some kind of show. When they don't the whole fan base (not just the teams fans all of fans) gets up in arms. Do you think the NFL wouldn't come down hard on a team that was payed off to loose and didn't even try to hide it.
It wouldn't be any more difficult to covert this stuff up, compared to what they already did. I mean really. All they would've had to do is make sure outbreak had a "bad setup" and not publicly announce they are in fact the same group of people.
I mean you could have the same 10 players playing as completely different teams with a proxy and secondary credit cards. And there would be no connection what so ever.
Obviously they did it on purpose to troll the eve community. I for one applaud their brilliance. The rest of you need to deal with it.
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Asuri Kinnes
Caldari Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:18:00 -
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Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Dear SIP.
Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent Eve Online Alliance Tournament. While we understand that you maybe upset by the outcome of this tournament, we are disappointed that you choose to direct your frustration at, us the event sponsors. We have no control over the outcome of the Eve Online Tournament, much like Carlsberg have no control over the outcome in the FA Cup or ESPN have over the outcome of the Superbowl. We suggest that you take your frustration to the appropriate organisation - CCP Games. As a company we would like point out that we have a very strong relationship with CCP Games and we will be working with them in the future. We understand that the gaming community that CCP Games have built up is of a niche market that many other mainstream games do not cater for. Your response to the recent Alliance Tournament and its outcome is a clear indicator that you are not part of the target niche CCP Games are marketing their MMO Eve Online toward. I would suggest that you take a look at other games on the market such as: Farmville. World Of Warcraft. Or possibly: Candy Machine Delux Game.
Again thank you for your feedback, it is appreciated we wish you the best in your future online gaming.
Nvidia Customer Service Team
Completely glossing over the fact that letter writing campaigns *DO* work at making companies change behavior or take certain actions that they might not otherwise take, and have been working since the '60's. Nice job moron. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:18:00 -
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Edited by: Ranger 1 on 20/06/2011 01:21:20
And that is ultimately the reality of the situation.
If CCP tried to enforce some very un-EVE-like code of conduct on the participating teams, the only thing that would change is the level acting involved.
At least this way we know EXACTLY where Outbreak and Hydra Reloaded stand as far as their level of respect to the EVE community. That and the sheer audacity of it is more entertaining in it's own way than watching a carefully choreographed combat.
The tournament was over the match before the final. Both teams had the same roots, and this was pointed out on more than one occasion by the commentators. Their victory was complete the moment both of those teams qualified for the finals.
This does NOT take away from the fact that there were some hard fought battles to get there. Over all the action, commentating, coverage, and general organization of the tournament was superb this year.
It is a shame that it had to end on such a lame note, true, but that is a reflection of the two teams involved wishing to make public asses of themselves and generally thumb their noses at the EVE community instead of simply going at each other. It is no reflection on CCP (do you REALLY want them forcing unenforceable codes of conduct down your throat) nor of the tournament in general. Most teams competed admirably.
If you must cast blame, cast it at the appropriate targets. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Larrza
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:21:00 -
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Originally by: Im Super Gay
Obviously they did it on purpose to troll the eve community. I for one applaud their brilliance. The rest of you need to deal with it.
and this is why you're super gay
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:22:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Jos Wijnants So the tournament is not a serious event in eve, and will be won by those people with the most isk and friends in EVE.
Apparently that's the way it is .. what's not serious about ISK and friends?
Not much point having a tournament if all what happens in the finals, is they effectively hold each others hands.
Luckily I did not watch it and from what I've read it certainly does not inspire me to watch the next one.
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Larrza
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:27:00 -
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Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 20/06/2011 01:21:20
And that is ultimately the reality of the situation.
If CCP tried to enforce some very un-EVE-like code of conduct on the participating teams, the only thing that would change is the level acting involved.
At least this way we know EXACTLY where Outbreak and Hydra Reloaded stand as far as their level of respect to the EVE community. That and the sheer audacity of it is more entertaining in it's own way than watching a carefully choreographed combat.
The tournament was over the match before the final. Both teams had the same roots, and this was pointed out on more than one occasion by the commentators. Their victory was complete the moment both of those teams qualified for the finals.
This does NOT take away from the fact that there were some hard fought battles to get there. Over all the action, commentating, coverage, and general organization of the tournament was superb this year.
It is a shame that it had to end on such a lame note, true, but that is a reflection of the two teams involved wishing to make public asses of themselves and generally thumb their noses at the EVE community instead of simply going at each other. It is no reflection on CCP (do you REALLY want them forcing unenforceable codes of conduct down your throat) nor of the tournament in general. Most teams competed admirably.
If you must cast blame, cast it at the appropriate targets.
Good post, i really do get sick of the mentality of some of the eve community, its like GUD TROLL M8, U MAD? OK BRAH stupid highschool crap, people need to grow the **** up and start making this community alittle more mature, no im not taking it all very serious but jesus, World of Failcraft is so old now yet we get all the rejects who have abandoned it due to ****ty xpacks and what not. Eve used to have a great player base, now its nothing but epeen asshats.
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IsoMetricanTaliac 2
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:30:00 -
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What happened doesn't make for good viewing, but what people are forgetting is these people aren't just taking part to give other players/people something to do for a few hours. They are taking part to win OR get the very most they can out of it & if that involves doing deals then so be it as thats the way of EVE & it's legal to do ingame...
There was nothing unfair about what happened & for anyone thats actually been a part of EVE for any reasonable amount of time they will know that paying bribes is an option that EVERYONE has ingame & why should it be left out of possible tactics within the AT?
Yes maybe not every team that took part would of been able to afford to do something like that & if it has been one of those teams then who knows how it would of turned out. It however wasn't one of those teams & the teams that it was had no problems accessing reserves of ISK etc to make good their deal & at a guess everyone walked away from the fight happy.
IF it concerns you so much why don't you run for the CSM next time round with that as one of your aims? that way you will be able to see just how many people really do support that stand & you will be able to push to have it changed, OR maybe you can get a team together for AT-X & show everyone how it's supposed to be done?
In a Time When Many Will Seek Death, There Will Always Be Those Like Me Who Won't Mind Helping Them Along Their Way!?! |
Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:36:00 -
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Besides, if you think about it, any good game (or story for that matter) has characters in it that you LOVE to HATE. It engages your emotions and captures your attention and imagination like nothing else.
EVE needs its bad guys, it's cheats, it's liars. Without them, this would be a very boring game indeed.
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Larrza
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:37:00 -
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Edited by: Larrza on 20/06/2011 01:38:34
Originally by: IsoMetricanTaliac 2
What happened doesn't make for good viewing, but what people are forgetting is these people aren't just taking part to give other players/people something to do for a few hours. They are taking part to win OR get the very most they can out of it & if that involves doing deals then so be it as thats the way of EVE & it's legal to do ingame...
There was nothing unfair about what happened & for anyone thats actually been a part of EVE for any reasonable amount of time they will know that paying bribes is an option that EVERYONE has ingame & why should it be left out of possible tactics within the AT?
Yes maybe not every team that took part would of been able to afford to do something like that & if it has been one of those teams then who knows how it would of turned out. It however wasn't one of those teams & the teams that it was had no problems accessing reserves of ISK etc to make good their deal & at a guess everyone walked away from the fight happy.
IF it concerns you so much why don't you run for the CSM next time round with that as one of your aims? that way you will be able to see just how many people really do support that stand & you will be able to push to have it changed, OR maybe you can get a team together for AT-X & show everyone how it's supposed to be done?
The big picture here was the Master told his hounds to sit, and they done just that.. did they even have a choice? im guessing no. Im guessing not 1 of them are going to bed tonight feeling good about how the end went down, but to each his own. such is life
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:44:00 -
[135]
Originally by: IsoMetricanTaliac 2
What happened doesn't make for good viewing, but what people are forgetting is these people aren't just taking part to give other players/people something to do for a few hours. They are taking part to win OR get the very most they can out of it & if that involves doing deals then so be it as thats the way of EVE & it's legal to do ingame...
There was nothing unfair about what happened & for anyone thats actually been a part of EVE for any reasonable amount of time they will know that paying bribes is an option that EVERYONE has ingame & why should it be left out of possible tactics within the AT?
Yes maybe not every team that took part would of been able to afford to do something like that & if it has been one of those teams then who knows how it would of turned out. It however wasn't one of those teams & the teams that it was had no problems accessing reserves of ISK etc to make good their deal & at a guess everyone walked away from the fight happy.
IF it concerns you so much why don't you run for the CSM next time round with that as one of your aims? that way you will be able to see just how many people really do support that stand & you will be able to push to have it changed, OR maybe you can get a team together for AT-X & show everyone how it's supposed to be done?
Paying brides might be an integral part of Eve, but if you allow it into a tournament then the tournament becomes nothing but a joke, it can't even really be considered a tournament.
If CCP consider their tournament a joke and treat it as such, then I guess not much anyone can do about it.
At least I now know it's not a proper tournament, so I'll never bother watching it either. After all who wants to see a fixed match, especially when it's obvious.
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Snake Scofield
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:46:00 -
[136]
Douchebaggery from internet warriors?
No way!
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Majuan Shuo
Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:48:00 -
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Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 01:54:37 tour+na+ment
noun /ˈtərnəmənt/ /ˈto͝or-/ tournaments, plural
(in a sport or game) A series of contests between a number of competitors, who compete for an overall prize
"who compete for an overall prize"
"compete"
CCP I ask you: why even bother hosting this "tournament" if such unsportsmanlike behavior is tolerated and rewarded?
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:50:00 -
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Originally by: Katra Novac
Originally by: IsoMetricanTaliac 2
What happened doesn't make for good viewing, but what people are forgetting is these people aren't just taking part to give other players/people something to do for a few hours. They are taking part to win OR get the very most they can out of it & if that involves doing deals then so be it as thats the way of EVE & it's legal to do ingame...
There was nothing unfair about what happened & for anyone thats actually been a part of EVE for any reasonable amount of time they will know that paying bribes is an option that EVERYONE has ingame & why should it be left out of possible tactics within the AT?
Yes maybe not every team that took part would of been able to afford to do something like that & if it has been one of those teams then who knows how it would of turned out. It however wasn't one of those teams & the teams that it was had no problems accessing reserves of ISK etc to make good their deal & at a guess everyone walked away from the fight happy.
IF it concerns you so much why don't you run for the CSM next time round with that as one of your aims? that way you will be able to see just how many people really do support that stand & you will be able to push to have it changed, OR maybe you can get a team together for AT-X & show everyone how it's supposed to be done?
Paying brides might be an integral part of Eve, but if you allow it into a tournament then the tournament becomes nothing but a joke, it can't even really be considered a tournament.
If CCP consider their tournament a joke and treat it as such, then I guess not much anyone can do about it.
At least I now know it's not a proper tournament, so I'll never bother watching it either. After all who wants to see a fixed match, especially when it's obvious.
They got paid in BRIDES?!?
Holy crap, I'd be pretty upset if I were them.
That's like saying "We'd like you to take a dive, and as payment we'll give you this ball and chain to wear for the rest of your life".
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:56:00 -
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Quote: If I steal a legendary amount of ISK from any player entity, my name will become a byword for treachery.
By your own example, that penalty has been paid.
The thief in your example doesn't have to give back the assets, be banned, or in any way make restitution. It's their reputation that pays the price. That and the possibility of long term repercussions in game from other EVE players.
So their reputation as a group has already been affected (whether they consider that a good thing or a bad thing is a matter of conjecture).
If you feel there should be repercussions from other players in game, well, get to it. Nobody's going to stop you.
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:02:00 -
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Life in EVE, always a drama. However I do believe that this crosses a line when real world prizes were also up for grabs and makes CCP look pretty bad.
As for the 'winners'... sorry guys, you might get the goodies but your actions in the AT show you are really the 'losers' when the big picture is looked at. Enjoy your loot. You didn't really earn it, and you don't really deserve it and for that reason it will have no real value to you and that empty hollow feeling in your gut that you deny exists just grew a little bigger.
The the participants that did their best. YOU are what the AT is about and why it is there.
~Z
*fake edit* Puts on Flame ******ant Suit.. Flame on 'losers'.
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:09:00 -
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There was no entry fee and they were not prizes, they were giveaways.
So if the Alliances in the final fight decided to split the profit after beating and kicking out all the other Alliances they should be able to do so. Tears are just icing to the cake. |
Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Benri Konpaku There was no entry fee and they were not prizes, they were giveaways.
So if the Alliances in the final fight decided to split the profit after beating and kicking out all the other Alliances they should be able to do so. Tears are just icing to the cake.
I like the fact that you call prizes (giveaways). Amazing how small minds manipulate words to try and justify poor behavior.
A prize is by definition a reward for winning at something. Thus the rewards for winning the AT were prizes. Not giveaways.
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Fern Dolakar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Benri Konpaku There was no entry fee and they were not prizes, they were giveaways.
So if the Alliances in the final fight decided to split the profit after beating and kicking out all the other Alliances they should be able to do so. Tears are just icing to the cake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
prize
noun /prīz/ prizes, plural
A thing given as a reward to the winner of a competition or race or in recognition of another outstanding achievement
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:23:00 -
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U mad? Yes u mad!
But that doesn't change the fact they won fair and square. Unless you have evidence of all the other alliances taking a dive to let them through. |
Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:26:00 -
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Edited by: Aiwha on 20/06/2011 02:26:08
Originally by: Zora'e
Originally by: Benri Konpaku There was no entry fee and they were not prizes, they were giveaways.
So if the Alliances in the final fight decided to split the profit after beating and kicking out all the other Alliances they should be able to do so. Tears are just icing to the cake.
I like the fact that you call prizes (giveaways). Amazing how small minds manipulate words to try and justify poor behavior.
A prize is by definition a reward for winning at something. Thus the rewards for winning the AT were prizes. Not giveaways.
Stupidity doesn't become you Cupcake.
rabble rabble rabble players I don't have any connection to were better pvp'ers and decided to work together and got 1's and 0's that I can't get rabble rabble rabble.
That's life, that's EVE. I can't heal stupid
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Majuan Shuo
Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:40:00 -
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Originally by: Benri Konpaku U mad? Yes u mad!
But that doesn't change the fact they won fair and square. Unless you have evidence of all the other alliances taking a dive to let them through.
You are either a troll or didn't watch the fight, so either way your point is invalid.
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Swynet
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:42:00 -
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Originally by: Kittel AND banned from next 3 tournaments for setting up the final!
Makes EVE look bad!
Who?
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:49:00 -
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Originally by: Majuan Shuo Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 01:54:37 tour+na+ment
noun /ˈtərnəmənt/ /ˈto͝or-/ tournaments, plural
(in a sport or game) A series of contests between a number of competitors, who compete for an overall prize
"who compete for an overall prize"
"compete"
CCP I ask you: why even bother hosting this "tournament" if such unsportsmanlike behavior is tolerated and rewarded?
Sorry, maybe next time we won't beat every other team in the alliance tournament with both alliances to make it to the point where we had both teams in the finals. I look forward to FA competing and making the finals more interesting next year! ---
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Selinate
Amarr Mocking Birds
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:49:00 -
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If I had watched the AT and seen that happen, first thing I would've done is facepalmed. Second thing is laughed.
Welcome to Eve. Have fun.
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:52:00 -
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Originally by: Majuan Shuo
Originally by: Benri Konpaku U mad? Yes u mad!
But that doesn't change the fact they won fair and square. Unless you have evidence of all the other alliances taking a dive to let them through.
You are either a troll or didn't watch the fight, so either way your point is invalid.
I saw the fight, and I also saw them take out all the other teams before that. So I guess you are referring to u not being mad when you say my point is invalid, right? |
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