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Kittel
Caldari Quiet.Storm
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:48:00 -
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AND banned from next 3 tournaments for setting up the final!
Makes EVE look bad!
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Allant Doran
Amarr Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:52:00 -
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Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
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illirdor
Gallente Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:54:00 -
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Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
Thats BS....
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Pantorus Necraliss
Minmatar Giza'Msafara
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:56:00 -
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Originally by: Kittel AND banned from next 3 tournaments for setting up the final!
Makes EVE look bad!
+1 That final was a shame, rules highly need to be improved for next year ! - Giza'Msafara recrute, entrez dans une corporation au background solide. |
Thaylon Sen
Dynamic International Solutions
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:58:00 -
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Agree totaly with the OP
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Evan183
Gallente EVE University Ivy League
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:58:00 -
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Edited by: Evan183 on 19/06/2011 22:00:14 Seriously, that final was a total fail! And (I think, I'm not certain though) purposely friendly-firing on teammates.
Evan183 EVE University |
Trespasser
Caldari Exsilium Militaris Innovia Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:58:00 -
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Yes, they both need to be thrown out and both prizes given to the 3rd and 4th place winners
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Suicidal Hamster
Hamster Holding Corp
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:59:00 -
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Agree
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Skinae
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Posted - 2011.06.19 21:59:00 -
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Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
Like a big ****ing joke?
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Korvanis
Stones Inc. Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:01:00 -
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OP wouldn't pay me to agree.
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Jos Wijnants
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:01:00 -
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Originally by: Kittel AND banned from next 3 tournaments for setting up the final!
Makes EVE look bad!
this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:02:00 -
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How in a game like Eve Online are the organisers supposed to stop teams collaborating?
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Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:03:00 -
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Originally by: Cancel Align NOW How in a game like Eve Online are the organisers supposed to stop teams collaborating?
By disqualifying them when they do?
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:04:00 -
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I liked the way they played to the finals.
This is EVE. |
HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:04:00 -
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+1
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Captain Blaubart
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:05:00 -
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Disqualification for both teams!
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Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:05:00 -
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Originally by: Vrabac
Originally by: Cancel Align NOW How in a game like Eve Online are the organisers supposed to stop teams collaborating?
By disqualifying them when they do?
Then they would need to disqualify every team that has won it for the last 8 tournaments.
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Tammarr
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:06:00 -
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disqualify and give prices to 3rd and 4th. All diplomats with contacts to hydra or outbreak, tell them they are red and that no deals will be made.
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Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Originally by: Vrabac
Originally by: Cancel Align NOW How in a game like Eve Online are the organisers supposed to stop teams collaborating?
By disqualifying them when they do?
Then they would need to disqualify every team that has won it for the last 8 tournaments.
lol so what
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Rasz Lin
Caldari Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:06:00 -
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People that are angry just dont understand EVE. This is not hello kitty island adventure guys.
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Baske
THE PAROXYSM
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:09:00 -
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+1
Imagine being the CCP employee who are transferring these prizes to the people who just ****ed off most of your viewers.
I would find it reaaaalllyyy hard to do the final click in that transfer.
And to you Kil2: You just lost the same EVE, which you have been quite close to win for the past couple of years.
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Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:09:00 -
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Originally by: Tammarr disqualify and give prices to 3rd and 4th. All diplomats with contacts to hydra or outbreak, tell them they are red and that no deals will be made.
yeah sure what ever you say...
...most diplomats - even those permanently red to them - will be saying; "nice troll guys - look at all the tears"
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Soraya Esil
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:10:00 -
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Its bogus that people who like watching a real fight don't understand eve or the tournament, yes awesome playing for them to end up in the final together, but then.. at least give people something fun to look at, like a fair match, since you already secured first and second place. This was just lame
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Kittel
Caldari Quiet.Storm
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin People that are angry just dont understand EVE. This is not hello kitty island adventure guys.
The point is if CCP is going to have an organized event such as this to have it fixed takes trust from the developer, as much as the game itself. On top of that giving REAL LIFE prizes that have to be taxed to real players, for fixing such an event is disgraceful!
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:11:00 -
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Edited by: Scarlet des Loupes on 19/06/2011 22:11:44 If next time Chribba buys his way to the final with a Bantam fleet and wins it, it would be fun!
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Jos Wijnants
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin People that are angry just dont understand EVE. This is not hello kitty island adventure guys.
So the tournament is not a serious event in eve,and will be won by those people with the most isk and friends in EVE can,t wait for next year then ,looking at the qualifying rounds will show the final winner already
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Wacktopia
Dark Side Of The Womb
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:13:00 -
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How about..............
1) Remove the 'lolship' and big ISK prizes 2) Make the only reward the pride of winning
People can still blow each other to win but it comes down to pride rather than just a simple transactional gain.
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Poke InTheEye
Anti-BoB Flash Mob
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:13:00 -
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Clearly gallente ships are the most powerful and should be nerfed in the next patch. A single vindicator killing an entire minmatar team is just overpowered IMO
NO BOB!!!! |
Jennifer Starling
Imperial Navy Forum Patrol
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Jos Wijnants So the tournament is not a serious event in eve, and will be won by those people with the most isk and friends in EVE.
Apparently that's the way it is .. what's not serious about ISK and friends?
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Vic Tenrach
Minmatar Anything U-Want 2B Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:14:00 -
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Originally by: Cancel Align NOW "nice troll guys - look at all the tears"
^-this
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:15:00 -
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Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
Ayup, scheming, plotting, gaming the rules and underhanded tactics are not just expected for AT, but are actually welcome. _
Make ISK||Build||React||1k papercuts
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Mr Kidd
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:15:00 -
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So um, I couldn't be arsed to watch the final....what happened and where can I see it?
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Pawnee
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:15:00 -
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Agreed, too.
In the last alliance tournament I already liked the interviews with the Devs about Eve-Online and CCP way more than the matches. This was very interesting and made me think one more time CCP is a great company. The matches themselves bored me - except the Amarr team from Darkside.
But - you always get, what you allow to happen. We got a faked final. No surprise for me 0utbreak even faked it twice. I know them since a long time. Anyways what do you expect from a Dev like CCP Soundwave, who is fan of White Noise, makes cheap, Boratlike Vuk Lau RMTer jokes without any proof and forgets about DarkSide.? He is certainly a good developer, but has not much of a clue, what is going on inside the sandbox.
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Atticus Fynch
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jos Wijnants
So the tournament is not a serious event in eve,and will be won by those people with the most isk and friends in EVE...
Congratualtions CCP, this is the culture you have cultivated.
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Soraya Esil
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:17:00 -
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Edited by: Soraya Esil on 19/06/2011 22:17:44
Originally by: Rasz Lin People that are angry just don't understand EVE. This is not hello kitty island adventure guys.
exactly the reason they should've said, great job we got nr 1 and 2, now lets fight and see who comes up first. this whole 'i let you win cause you're my buddy' is cute, but meh to look at people who don't think this was fun to watch, object to it being hello kitty space adventures and would've loved to see a real final.
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Aina O'Sinnor
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:18:00 -
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Of course it was lag.
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Scarlet des Loupes
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:18:00 -
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Originally by: Rasz Lin People that are angry just don't understand EVE. This is not hello kitty island adventure guys.
They have alliance tournaments in Hello Kitty Online?
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Feralloki Arnerette
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:19:00 -
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I missed the final match, did anyone record it?
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Internet Knight
The Kobayashi Maru
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:20:00 -
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Apparently, there was some massive dragon sex to be had and I MISSED IT???
WTF LINK ---
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Juno Valchelza
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:21:00 -
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In the REAL WORLD, yes they should be disqualified as this is not proper behavior for a professional tournament. People viewing it will laugh or question why these type of things are happening. Also it will cheapen the experience of those watching and attending such events.
But this is Eve... Nom nom tears, STFU, go 2 W0W. Yeah. Ok.
I guess we don't need Eve to be taken seriously by the masses out there. *shrug* Oh well.
I feel bad for the contestants who put 100% into the tourney and tried hard to win it. If the final prize can be won like this, why bother entering?
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Portmanteau
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Portmanteau on 19/06/2011 22:24:01 fair enough, the two teams worked together to win the stuffz and there is no real rules to stop them, but then why should CCP bother making such a fuss by hyping it and putting pop ups in the game when all we are going to see is two teams giving each other a celebratory gobble.
next yrs pop up in game "quick, only five minutes to the CLIMAX of this yrs AT where we will see a group of in game bum chums toss each others salad"
Honestly CCP if you want to make an "attraction" out of this tournament, at least try to keep somewhat kosher :/
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Powie XIII
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:24:00 -
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Edited by: Powie XIII on 19/06/2011 22:25:28 Real world prizes
Real world sponsorships
If they only receive virtual items, then i would be just fine with it.
If you are implying that what they did is ok, then what is the point of watching the next tourney?
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:26:00 -
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Originally by: Vrabac
Originally by: Cancel Align NOW How in a game like Eve Online are the organisers supposed to stop teams collaborating?
By disqualifying them when they do?
Ok. Suddenly "bad target calling" and "bad luck at picking a setup to run". Discqualification for playing badly?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:27:00 -
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Originally by: Powie XIII
Real world prizes
Real world sponsorships
Real world EvE players
Auditing | Research | 3rd Party | Collateral Holding | EvE RL Charity |
ThrashPower
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:28:00 -
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op should be banned from posting
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:28:00 -
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- Real world show. - With 28k+ real world viewers looking at their ads.
I think the tournament delivered. And we got some stuff from it like free prizes for guessing the winners and priceless tears.
Excellence all aroundÖ. |
Jeff Severasse
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:28:00 -
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Originally by: Powie XIII Edited by: Powie XIII on 19/06/2011 22:25:28 Real world prizes
Real world sponsorships
So is this the first case in Eve history where someone used isk to buy real world items? Sounds like reverse engineered MT to me
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Adacia Calla
Minmatar Firebird Squadron Terra-Incognita
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:29:00 -
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You're pretty stupid if you didn't see this coming.
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Anne Arqui
Minmatar Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:30:00 -
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Originally by: Jeff Severasse
Originally by: Powie XIII Real world prizes Real world sponsorships
So is this the first case in Eve history where someone used isk to buy real world items? Sounds like reverse engineered MT to me
So they actually broke the EULA and should be banned .. as it's a form of RMT?
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Korvanis
Stones Inc. Frater Adhuc Excessum
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:31:00 -
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Originally by: Vic Tenrach
Originally by: Cancel Align NOW "nice troll guys - look at all the tears"
^-this
^-That?
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Electra GaafCramo
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:32:00 -
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They will most likely not be any disqualifying, as that will raise a ton of other issues for CCP.
I hope they will come up with a new AT model, in an attempt to prevent this from happening.
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Raynohr
Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc.
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
+1
the final showed us what eve realy is all about: friendship and tons of metagaming.
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Portmanteau
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:33:00 -
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Originally by: Adacia Calla You're pretty stupid if you didn't see this coming.
yeah TBF it should have been expected, hats off to hydra for the massive troll. Ofc CCP should really have seen it coming too and perhaps made an effort of some sort to make sure we got to see an actual fight
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:36:00 -
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Originally by: Portmanteau Ofc CCP should really have seen it coming too and perhaps made an effort of some sort to make sure we got to see an actual fight
Like what? I mean. Just give me something. Change whatever rules you want. What's that? Can't stop it from happening? *not surprised*
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Solstice Project
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:36:00 -
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Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 22:38:08
signed. Was exactly my thought too.
Ban them from the tournament, disqualify them for that ****.
That's nothing to do with eSports anymore. It's a huge shame they pulled that off.
Anybody who calls that eSports should kick himself.
And PLEASE get some guys who KNOW how to use the camera for the better ! We all KNOW what ships look like close up ! Get a bit more distance !
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Powie XIII
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Anne Arqui
Originally by: Jeff Severasse
Originally by: Powie XIII Real world prizes Real world sponsorships
So is this the first case in Eve history where someone used isk to buy real world items? Sounds like reverse engineered MT to me
So they actually broke the EULA and should be banned .. as it's a form of RMT?
Did they actually?
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:38:00 -
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Originally by: Solstice Project
signed. Was exactly my thought too.
Ban them.
That's nothing to do with eSports anymore. It's a huge shame they pulled that off.
Anybody who calls that eSports should kick himself.
You could check my post above and tell me how to fix this. Also who says SC2 matches aren't rigged? There's no way to stop it.
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Nefera Sen
The Boondock Saints
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:39:00 -
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Originally by: Powie XIII Edited by: Powie XIII on 19/06/2011 22:25:28 Real world prizes
Real world sponsorships
If they only receive virtual items, then i would be just fine with it.
If you are implying that what they did is ok, then what is the point of watching the next tourney?
QFT
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:39:00 -
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say what ? say what ???? o.O
Yes ban the winners because they can use their heads and are better at math then any others. As well as better at spyes and generally better at anything.
Ban them because they played meta-gaming of Alliance tournament better then anyone else...
Makes perfect sense..
Say what ? Say what ??? o.O
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Narisa Bithon
Caldari The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:39:00 -
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today's final sums up alliance tourney
its not decided by skill but by isk.
Alliance tournament is a load of crap
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Soraya Esil
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:42:00 -
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Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted say what ? say what ???? o.O
Yes ban the winners because they can use their heads and are better at math then any others. As well as better at spyes and generally better at anything.
Ban them because they played meta-gaming of Alliance tournament better then anyone else...
Makes perfect sense..
Say what ? Say what ??? o.O
How was this using their heads? only math they did was shove isk to each other to give us something very boring to look at...
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:44:00 -
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Originally by: Soraya Esil
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted say what ? say what ???? o.O
Yes ban the winners because they can use their heads and are better at math then any others. As well as better at spyes and generally better at anything.
Ban them because they played meta-gaming of Alliance tournament better then anyone else...
Makes perfect sense..
Say what ? Say what ??? o.O
How was this using their heads? only math they did was shove isk to each other to give us something very boring to look at...
You probably didnt get it.. Did you ?
Better team won. As for final battle it was great.. two friend fight against each other split profit afterwards... nobody can say anything about it. Only if the Hydra refuse to contribute to Outbreak. Than Outbreak may drop some tears...
Apart then that .. All whiners are pathetic.
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Jeff Severasse
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:45:00 -
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Originally by: Soraya Esil
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted say what ? say what ???? o.O
Yes ban the winners because they can use their heads and are better at math then any others. As well as better at spyes and generally better at anything.
Ban them because they played meta-gaming of Alliance tournament better then anyone else...
Makes perfect sense..
Say what ? Say what ??? o.O
How was this using their heads? only math they did was shove isk to each other to give us something very boring to look at...
That's what 'do the math' implies. If they value the isk over the win...then they did it correctly.
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Soraya Esil
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:47:00 -
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Edited by: Soraya Esil on 19/06/2011 22:47:47 Oh i got it.. i just state your statement bout the better meta-gaming, awesome in spying, using their head team won.. That didn't happen.. two friendly teams stroked each other e-peens and it made for a boring match to look at...that's what happened.
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:48:00 -
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This is the culture of EVE, but still CCP will have to draw the line somewhere when AT outcomes are obviously rigged.
It will come out as the most stupid decision in the history of EVE. Either by the morons who started this scam, or by CCP if they let them continue and make any future tournament a joke.
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Portmanteau
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:48:00 -
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Originally by: Greniard
Originally by: Portmanteau Ofc CCP should really have seen it coming too and perhaps made an effort of some sort to make sure we got to see an actual fight
Like what? I mean. Just give me something. Change whatever rules you want. What's that? Can't stop it from happening? *not surprised*
Actually you have a point, there's probably F*** all they could do. I guess there's really no point in watching the AT unless you enjoy figuring out who's in bed with who and other worthless meta gaming / intrigue type stuff. AT apparently has absolutely nothing to do with pvp
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: Soraya Esil Edited by: Soraya Esil on 19/06/2011 22:47:47 Oh i got it.. i just state your statement bout the better meta-gaming, awesome in spying, using their head team won.. That didn't happen.. two friendly teams stroked each other e-peens and it made for a boring match to look at...that's what happened.
Thats matter of perspective and strongly subjective to each persona.
I find the last match fun and great... Hero Vindicator etc. not bad not bad at all... i mean all they need to do in the final its just get there and wait for 15 minutes kill one frig or so .. and they would still win..
That would be really entertaining
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Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: Jeff Severasse That's what 'do the math' implies. If they value the isk over the win...then they did it correctly.
I don't think anyone in his right mind would argue against them doing what's best for their wallets and props to them for that, problem is this was in some way supposed to be an entertaining event and it wasn't, at least not in the manner it was supposed to - that is watching 2 teams struggling to win. I really couldn't care less about what happens with them, but I sure won't spend another afternoon watching an eve tournament.
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Kittel
Caldari Quiet.Storm
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:53:00 -
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As far as the EULA someone mentioned before, I wonder if it is a form of RMT as well as real items, I'm sure some lawyer somewhere could find a loophole and a losing team could sue over this, the real money prizes being an issue here...this isn't a joke it could turn into something real for ccp. People and companies get sued for much less then this. I don't want CCP to shut down over something like this. Perhaps this is nothing and i'm going farther then it would ever be seen as, but the real money value for the prizes real or virtual is serious.
I wouldn't be surprised if all competitors next your have to sign something in order to participate!
Regardless...
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Portmanteau
CTRL-Q
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:54:00 -
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Originally by: Vrabac
Originally by: Jeff Severasse That's what 'do the math' implies. If they value the isk over the win...then they did it correctly.
I don't think anyone in his right mind would argue against them doing what's best for their wallets and props to them for that, problem is this was in some way supposed to be an entertaining event and it wasn't, at least not in the manner it was supposed to - that is watching 2 teams struggling to win. I really couldn't care less about what happens with them, but I sure won't spend another afternoon watching an eve tournament.
this ...
I don't blame hydra and outbreak for doing it, i'd do pretty much anything for that amt of isk, just a shame it's so boring and can't believe ccp hype this event with a straight face lol. if anything it's CCP who got trolled the hardest and for that I applaud the two wiining teams :)
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:57:00 -
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Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 19/06/2011 22:57:14
Originally by: Portmanteau
I don't blame hydra and outbreak for doing it, i'd do pretty much anything for that amt of isk, just a shame it's so boring and can't believe ccp hype this event with a straight face lol. if anything it's CCP who got trolled the hardest and for that I applaud the two wiining teams :)
Yep life sux.. thats the truth of life.. in the end there are no winners.
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Soraya Esil
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Posted - 2011.06.19 22:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Thats matter of perspective and strongly subjective to each persona.
I find the last match fun and great... Hero Vindicator etc. not bad not bad at all... i mean all they need to do in the final its just get there and wait for 15 minutes kill one frig or so .. and they would still win..
That would be really entertaining
The last match would have been fun if they had gone all out and made it a real fight..
There was no hero vindicator, there is no hero in a staged fight.
They won the tourney yes, they won prizes yes, the fact that they got in the final together was well played, the final however, mayor disappointment and lack of creativity
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Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:07:00 -
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Anyone who gets upset about a little metagaming in EVE should probably quit now. This is the sort of stuff that happens EVERY SINGLE DAY in EVE.
In fact, the metagaming is one of the most intriguing and exciting parts of the game. It is what sets EVE apart from the other MMOs. There's no hand holding here, and you are free to do whatever you want.
The very fact that Hydra was able to beat Pandemic Legion at their own game, and then rub it in everyone's faces is testament to EVE's greatness. As usual, the REAL game is found beneath the combat. |
Whim Aqayn
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:12:00 -
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Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
/thread
EVE is not about pansy tournaments and hopefully never will be. |
Soraya Esil
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:20:00 -
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Originally by: Whim Aqayn
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
/thread
EVE is not about pansy tournaments and hopefully never will be.
Right, because getting to the final on skills and then blowing it off in one very boring 'aww you can win you is cute, you deserved it more then i do, lets not give people something fun to watch' way isn't pansy at all
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flapie 2
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:23:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted Apart then that .. All whiners are pathetic.
Just like you mister troll.
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Irulan Corinno
Caldari 714th SQN - Snowflakes
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:24:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Soraya Esil
Originally by: Whim Aqayn
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
/thread EVE is not about pansy tournaments and hopefully never will be.
Right, because getting to the final on skills and then blowing it off in one very boring 'aww you can win you is cute, you deserved it more then i do, lets not give people something fun to watch' way isn't pansy at all
What do you prefer, that they hypocritical pretend it¦s a real fight when it¦s not, just to please the crowds - or just make a statement like this?!
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente Panta-Rhei Butterfly Effect Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:24:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Whim Aqayn
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
/thread
EVE is not about pansy tournaments and hopefully never will be.
Then make this the final tournament, since it does not belong into EVE, why should CCP organise another one?
Quote: Disclaimer: All mentioned above contains my opinion and is therefore an absolute truth (for me anyway, my universe, muhahaha.....ok, done
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Koramok
Amarr Cold Carbon Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:25:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
EVE is about ganking, griefing, scamming, cheating, being an ass, etc, so yea. Sad, but true.
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malcovas Henderson
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:26:00 -
[80]
TBH who gives a hoot what they did in the final. It just sounds as if you are bitter you are not good enough to get there yourself.
Both teams were friends and TBH all were winners. Get over yourself and stop being bitter at someone elses success
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Kittel
Caldari Quiet.Storm
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:27:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Koramok
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
EVE is about ganking, griefing, scamming, cheating, being an ass, etc, so yea. Sad, but true.
The AT is not about these things, and was never intended to be such! CCP can correct me if I'm wrong, CCP can, not the players.
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Irulan Corinno
Caldari 714th SQN - Snowflakes
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:29:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Kittel The AT is not about these things, and was never intended to be such! CCP can correct me if I'm wrong, CCP can, not the players.
You think they're going to? Honestly?
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Solstice Project
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:29:00 -
[83]
Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 23:30:28 Dear nvidia, evga, alienware, etc...
You are sponsors of an official event with a staged ending, which makes me and several other people really unhappy.
I will not buy any of your products again and will actively advise people to not buy your products until the gay***s of alliance tournament finalists get disqualified.
I know it wasn't your fault, but losing sponsors hurts.
Yours sincerely, S!P
(we can have this all the way via e-mail directly to them, too) (i bet there's plenty of ppl that would join in) (guess it needs rewording, but i'm ****ed ^^)
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:32:00 -
[84]
Originally by: Solstice Project Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 23:30:28 Dear nvidia, evga, alienware, etc...
You are sponsors of an official event with a staged ending, which makes me and several other people really unhappy.
I will not buy any of your products again and will actively advise people to not buy your products until the gay***s of alliance tournament finalists get disqualified.
I know it wasn't your fault, but losing sponsors hurts.
Yours sincerely, S!P
(we can have this all the way via e-mail directly to them, too) (i bet there's plenty of ppl that would join in) (guess it needs rewording, but i'm ****ed ^^)
I hate to burst your bubble... But you are no special snowflake. And such emails will certeinly have an good laugh by PR department at least their day would be brighter xD
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Soraya Esil
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:32:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Solstice Project Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 23:30:28 Dear nvidia, evga, alienware, etc...
You are sponsors of an official event with a staged ending, which makes me and several other people really unhappy.
I will not buy any of your products again and will actively advise people to not buy your products until the gay***s of alliance tournament finalists get disqualified.
I know it wasn't your fault, but losing sponsors hurts.
Yours sincerely, S!P
(we can have this all the way via e-mail directly to them, too) (i bet there's plenty of ppl that would join in) (guess it needs rewording, but i'm ****ed ^^)
Dont forget logitech :P
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Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:33:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Soraya Esil
Originally by: Whim Aqayn
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
/thread
EVE is not about pansy tournaments and hopefully never will be.
Right, because getting to the final on skills and then blowing it off in one very boring 'aww you can win you is cute, you deserved it more then i do, lets not give people something fun to watch' way isn't pansy at all
It isn't a pansy tournament, because CCP doesn't protect all the e-honour samurai from EVE's metagame.
If you want fair, go play battlegrounds and arenas in WoW. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Teala Te'Jir
Amarr Mr. Benjamin Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:33:00 -
[87]
First, none of you paid a cent to watch the tournament. Second, this is EVE. In EVE anything can and will happen, never expect things to happen as you assume they should happen. EVE is not about being fair or about playing all nicey - nicey. Third, the tournament isn't about you the viewer, it is about teams that put up billions in ISK to participate. This is their tournament - not yours. Forth, you don't like how the tournament played out, put your money where your mouth is and get your own team into the tournament.
It was a great tournament and the teams that made it to the end worked their mouses off to get there. They still had to get through some very tough opponents to even get to the end. So congrats should be in order because these two teams managed to pull off an amazing ending to this tournament. I just hope next years tournament is as good as this one was.
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:34:00 -
[88]
Originally by: Solstice Project *tears*
I'll give you a better reason to not buy evga products: that freaking ad.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:35:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 19/06/2011 23:36:16
Originally by: Teala Te'Jir First, none of you paid a cent to watch the tournament. Second, this is EVE. In EVE anything can and will happen, never expect things to happen as you assume they should happen. EVE is not about being fair or about playing all nicey - nicey. Third, the tournament isn't about you the viewer, it is about teams that put up billions in ISK to participate. This is their tournament - not yours. Forth, you don't like how the tournament played out, put your money where your mouth is and get your own team into the tournament.
It was a great tournament and the teams that made it to the end worked their mouses off to get there. They still had to get through some very tough opponents to even get to the end. So congrats should be in order because these two teams managed to pull off an amazing ending to this tournament. I just hope next years tournament is as good as this one was.
+1 / signed / And i am carebear and i enjoyed the alliance tournaments.
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Solstice Project
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:35:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
I hate to burst your bubble... But you are no special snowflake. And such emails will certeinly have an good laugh by PR department at least their day would be brighter xD
moron.
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Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:36:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Kittel
Originally by: Koramok
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
EVE is about ganking, griefing, scamming, cheating, being an ass, etc, so yea. Sad, but true.
The AT is not about these things, and was never intended to be such! CCP can correct me if I'm wrong, CCP can, not the players.
And likewise, it is up to CCP to decide if any rules were broken, not the players. You lost all right to avoid an argument the second you posted on these forums.
Frankly, no rules were broken, so no disqualifications will be made. THat is CCP's stance on EVE Online, and that is why there are no bans for scammers, spies and pirates in this game. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Teala Te'Jir
Amarr Mr. Benjamin Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:37:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Soraya Esil
Originally by: Whim Aqayn
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
/thread
EVE is not about pansy tournaments and hopefully never will be.
Right, because getting to the final on skills and then blowing it off in one very boring 'aww you can win you is cute, you deserved it more then i do, lets not give people something fun to watch' way isn't pansy at all
You think it was easy for these two teams to make it into the final match the way they did. They still had to play their asses off. Besides this is not about you. It is about them. They put the effort and ISK out of their own pockets to get to where they did. You didn't. Take your wine and go find some cheese somewhere else. This is not the place for it. THIS IS EVE!
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Jos Wijnants
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:38:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Teala Te'Jir First, none of you paid a cent to watch the tournament. Second, this is EVE. In EVE anything can and will happen, never expect things to happen as you assume they should happen. EVE is not about being fair or about playing all nicey - nicey. Third, the tournament isn't about you the viewer, it is about teams that put up billions in ISK to participate. This is their tournament - not yours. Forth, you don't like how the tournament played out, put your money where your mouth is and get your own team into the tournament.
It was a great tournament and the teams that made it to the end worked their mouses off to get there. They still had to get through some very tough opponents to even get to the end. So congrats should be in order because these two teams managed to pull off an amazing ending to this tournament. I just hope next years tournament is as good as this one was.
You clearly watched another tournament i suppose
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Vrabac
Zawa's Fan Club
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:39:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Vrabac on 19/06/2011 23:41:08
Originally by: Irulan Corinno What do you prefer, that they hypocritical pretend it¦s a real fight
Yes actually.
This was... er, rude to the viewers, lacking a better word. It would only take very little effort to pretend a fight, or why not even just fight and then exchange rewards if it goes the wrong way, not like this was any different in effect.
Ofc fundamentally it's CCP who are to blame, it's their event and it's up to them to set the standards and enforce them. Disqualifying or penalizing in some other way would imo be the right thing to do if they intend to keep it at least superficially competitive, if they don't and you expected to see a proper competition just don't watch the next one and leave it at that. It is after all CCP's responsibility not yours or participants'.
I got to admit I was heavily disappointed with the whole thing, the anticlimatic finale really ruined the whole atmosphere but on the other hand if they do get away with it, props to them. I still wish I did something else with my time tho.
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Irulan Corinno
Caldari 714th SQN - Snowflakes
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:42:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Vrabac
Originally by: Irulan Corinno What do you prefer, that they hypocritical pretend it¦s a real fight
Yes actually.
Perhaps they did that last year .. and the year before and now they got bored?
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Cancel Align NOW
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:43:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Solstice Project Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 23:30:28 Dear nvidia, evga, alienware, etc...
You are sponsors of an official event with a staged ending, which makes me and several other people really unhappy.
I will not buy any of your products again and will actively advise people to not buy your products until the gay***s of alliance tournament finalists get disqualified.
I know it wasn't your fault, but losing sponsors hurts.
Yours sincerely, S!P
(we can have this all the way via e-mail directly to them, too) (i bet there's plenty of ppl that would join in) (guess it needs rewording, but i'm ****ed ^^)
Dear SIP.
Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent Eve Online Alliance Tournament. While we understand that you maybe upset by the outcome of this tournament, we are disappointed that you choose to direct your frustration at, us the event sponsors. We have no control over the outcome of the Eve Online Tournament, much like Carlsberg have no control over the outcome in the FA Cup or ESPN have over the outcome of the Superbowl. We suggest that you take your frustration to the appropriate organisation - CCP Games. As a company we would like point out that we have a very strong relationship with CCP Games and we will be working with them in the future. We understand that the gaming community that CCP Games have built up is of a niche market that many other mainstream games do not cater for. Your response to the recent Alliance Tournament and its outcome is a clear indicator that you are not part of the target niche CCP Games are marketing their MMO Eve Online toward. I would suggest that you take a look at other games on the market such as: Farmville. World Of Warcraft. Or possibly: Candy Machine Delux Game.
Again thank you for your feedback, it is appreciated we wish you the best in your future online gaming.
Nvidia Customer Service Team
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Xenuria
Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:50:00 -
[97]
Is it to late to say I told you soo?
I really did tell you this was going to happen. As per usual nobody listens to me...
This was all planned... I paid ALOT of money to make this happen. "Sorry, Your Sov Options are Unavailable due to a PSN Outage."
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Raider Zero
Minmatar Tormentum Insomniae Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:50:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Atticus Fynch
Originally by: Jos Wijnants
So the tournament is not a serious event in eve,and will be won by those people with the most isk and friends in EVE...
Congratualtions CCP, this is the culture you have cultivated.
+1 Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] -Targoviste |
Chandler Urandom
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:53:00 -
[99]
Edited by: Chandler Urandom on 19/06/2011 23:56:43 Thanks for creating an informative thread, where even those who did not watch the AT can understand what's going on and participate in the discussion. Appreciate it, good job! Anyone care to elaborate on what's up?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:53:00 -
[100]
Both teams should get rewarded for being devious bastards, which is what alliance PvP is all about.
àwhat? They did get rewarded?
All is good in the world, then. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.19 23:59:00 -
[101]
So kids, meta game or don't bother signing up for the AT.
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Taedrin
Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:00:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Chandler Urandom Edited by: Chandler Urandom on 19/06/2011 23:56:43 Thanks for creating an informative thread, where even those who did not watch the AT can understand what's going on and participate in the discussion. Appreciate it, good job! Anyone care to elaborate on what's up?
Essentially, Hydra Reloaded out-meta-gamed Pandemic Legion, and did the math to maneuver their BFFs, Outbreak, to the opposite side of the tourny bracket (such that they would not fight against each other until the finals). In the end, both Outbreak and Hydra Reloaded reached the final match. Outbreak initially wiped out Hydra reloaded, killing 2 out of 3 Vindicators without losing a single ship. They then allowed Hydra to kill them, with the last remaining Vindicator going so far as to killing his own team mate (the Oneiros) so that only the Vindicator was left standing. ----------
Originally by: Dr Fighter "how do you know when youve had a repro accident"
Theres modules missing and morphite in your mineral pile.
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Bubbles Udan
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:01:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Solstice Project Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 23:30:28 Dear nvidia, evga, alienware, etc...
I haven't changed my tampon in awhile, so please forgive what dribbles out next
You are sponsors of an official event with a staged ending, which makes me and several other people really unhappy.
I will not buy any of your products again and will actively advise people to not buy your products until the gay***s of alliance tournament finalists get disqualified.
I know it wasn't your fault, but losing sponsors hurts.
Yours sincerely, S!P
(we can have this all the way via e-mail directly to them, too) (i bet there's plenty of ppl that would join in) (guess it needs rewording, but i'm ****ed ^^)
You don't represent us.
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Solstice Project
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:02:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Bubbles Udan
Originally by: Solstice Project Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 23:30:28 Dear nvidia, evga, alienware, etc...
I haven't changed my tampon in awhile, so please forgive what dribbles out next
You are sponsors of an official event with a staged ending, which makes me and several other people really unhappy.
I will not buy any of your products again and will actively advise people to not buy your products until the gay***s of alliance tournament finalists get disqualified.
I know it wasn't your fault, but losing sponsors hurts.
Yours sincerely, S!P
(we can have this all the way via e-mail directly to them, too) (i bet there's plenty of ppl that would join in) (guess it needs rewording, but i'm ****ed ^^)
You don't represent us.
Neither do you or anybody else here. Learn to think, moron.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:03:00 -
[105]
TBH I expect next years AT enrollment to be on a similar trend to this years peak PCU.
Good show
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Saia Tae Arragosa
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:03:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Saia Tae Arragosa on 20/06/2011 00:03:35
Originally by: Sig Sour So kids, meta game or don't bother signing up for the AT.
There was much more to this than the meta game as you are suggesting, they did actually have to "win", you know, matches. So take you wine and your cheese to Hello Kitty.
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Tramlaw Trub
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:05:00 -
[107]
Confirming that intrigue/metagaming have no place inthe most honourable practice of Eve pvp.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:07:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Jaroslav Unwanted on 20/06/2011 00:11:25
Originally by: Saia Tae Arragosa Edited by: Saia Tae Arragosa on 20/06/2011 00:03:35
Originally by: Sig Sour So kids, meta game or don't bother signing up for the AT.
There was much more to this than the meta game as you are suggesting, they did actually have to "win", you know, matches. So take you wine and your cheese to Hello Kitty.
Yep thats probably the point everyone else is forgetting... TBH we all thought Pandemic Legion will win .. Well they didnt... not thanks to HYDRA and their brother in arms but thanks to DarkSide if i recall correctly ... So statement whole AT is just an joke somehow miss the truth as well as sense. Just saying. Unless you got only one ally signed in in several forms then AT is about the fight and win of the fittest.
Not to mention the sheer ammount of time each alliance commited to it.. be it spying networks, testing the different groups etc. As well as many other things... In the end luck roll is in place there too .. And by many of stupid comments here .. you wish that AT would become just some 4th class pub brawl.. aka rifters vs rifters. Get over yourself allready... Its not about you its about the people who commited the most precious resources in to this tournament... TIME.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:10:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Saia Tae Arragosa Edited by: Saia Tae Arragosa on 20/06/2011 00:03:35
Originally by: Sig Sour So kids, meta game or don't bother signing up for the AT.
There was much more to this than the meta game as you are suggesting, they did actually have to "win", you know, matches. So take you wine and your cheese to Hello Kitty.
Are you assuming I was only talking about Hydra and Outbreak? Cause I wasn't.
Also: Meta game or don't enter.
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Jovan Geldon
Gallente Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:12:00 -
[110]
Funny how the vast majority of the whine crowd are those whose only taste of PvP is running away from ninja looters. You want to uphold the "honour" of Eve? Fine. Apply next year and see just how far your principles get you.
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Bubbles Udan
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:12:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Solstice Project
Originally by: Bubbles Udan
Originally by: Solstice Project Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 23:30:28 Dear nvidia, evga, alienware, etc...
I haven't changed my tampon in awhile, so please forgive what dribbles out next
You are sponsors of an official event with a staged ending, which makes me and several other people really unhappy.
I will not buy any of your products again and will actively advise people to not buy your products until the gay***s of alliance tournament finalists get disqualified.
I know it wasn't your fault, but losing sponsors hurts.
Yours sincerely, S!P
(we can have this all the way via e-mail directly to them, too) (i bet there's plenty of ppl that would join in) (guess it needs rewording, but i'm ****ed ^^)
You don't represent us.
Neither do you or anybody else here. Learn to think, moron.
When you get to college grade you can take a philosophy 101 class and learn the flaw in your logic, in the mean time enjoy boycotting Gatorade because of LBJ.
I just went out and bought a GTX 580 to show my support.
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Lenasha
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:16:00 -
[112]
For all you idiots that say this is part of Eve - you really need to think more.
Of course this is part of eve but in eve we have a tournament - (sporting event). The people who watched the sporting event are ****ed off because the last match (world cup or supper bowl) was fixed. As a fan do you think I have no right to be upset because hey it was fixed and we know this is how alliances (countries) work.
B. S.
The people that run the alliance tournament (ccp) had better change it or people are going to stop watching, betting and enjoying the tournament.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:18:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Bubbles Udan in the mean time enjoy boycotting Gatorade because of LBJ.
PepsiCo built Komodo Airport? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:20:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Lenasha For all you idiots that say this is part of Eve - you really need to think more.
Of course this is part of eve but in eve we have a tournament - (sporting event). The people who watched the sporting event are ****ed off because the last match (world cup or supper bowl) was fixed. As a fan do you think I have no right to be upset because hey it was fixed and we know this is how alliances (countries) work.
B. S.
The people that run the alliance tournament (ccp) had better change it or people are going to stop watching, betting and enjoying the tournament.
Uhh ..Yeah ..ehm ..well .. wait .. NO
I mean real life events works just the same way. Its all fixed... By the very specific whole life and pattern of thinking are fixed.. So your point is dismissed.
Have an nice day.
and fyi.. Forums poster are ussually just trolls.. The people who watched AT and actually play the game .. Dont come there .. apart of few. But those few sooner or later gave up. Since its pointless ..
Troll post/ Troll post / some witty troll post/ some angry troll poset/ some seemingly intelligent troll post. / Pointless arguing.
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Garekell
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:20:00 -
[115]
Originally by: Portmanteau Edited by: Portmanteau on 19/06/2011 22:24:01 fair enough, the two teams worked together to win the stuffz and there is no real rules to stop them, but then why should CCP bother making such a fuss by hyping it and putting pop ups in the game when all we are going to see is two teams giving each other a celebratory gobble.
next yrs pop up in game "quick, only five minutes to the CLIMAX of this yrs AT where we will see a group of in game bum chums toss each others salad"
Honestly CCP if you want to make an "attraction" out of this tournament, at least try to keep somewhat kosher :/
Actually CCP was taken by surprise it and I felt very sorry for them. (Did you see their faces when the match was over?) So many people spent so much time and effort to make a pretty damn good televised event watched by 30,000 people, put a pop up announcing the last match into the game, and then THAT happened and ruined it at the very last second. I just hope they know their hard work is appreciated.
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:21:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Lenasha
Of course this is part of eve but in eve we have a tournament - (sporting event). The people who watched the sporting event are ****ed off because the last match (world cup or supper bowl) was fixed.
So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
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Legolas Greenleaf
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:23:00 -
[117]
At the end of the day, Hydra wanted to win. They did. And they didn't break any of the rules in the process.
All this hurf-blurf about :e-honour: is amusing but ultimately pointless.
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Im Super Gay
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:24:00 -
[118]
You do realize that even if CCP would ban rigging matches it would still happen coverly, right?
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Janus Talmash
Talmash Imports and Exports Group
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:27:00 -
[119]
I like how right after the match none of the commentators even touched the subject, or the match itself. They quickly switched to "other stuff". Me personally I don't mind, this is EVE at it's best/worst, but I'd rather have seen an actual brutal fight.
________ Amat victoria curam.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:30:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Greniard So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
Who would watch if they didn't at least try hide it? Can you imagine the state Vancouver would be in if the Canucks just did circles on the ice? If you are going to exploit the format I think you need to be a little lot more covert with it.
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HeIIfire11
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:30:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Bubbles Udan
Originally by: Solstice Project Edited by: Solstice Project on 19/06/2011 23:30:28 Dear nvidia, evga, alienware, etc...
I haven't changed my tampon in awhile, so please forgive what dribbles out next
You are sponsors of an official event with a staged ending, which makes me and several other people really unhappy.
I will not buy any of your products again and will actively advise people to not buy your products until the gay***s of alliance tournament finalists get disqualified.
I know it wasn't your fault, but losing sponsors hurts.
Yours sincerely, S!P
(we can have this all the way via e-mail directly to them, too) (i bet there's plenty of ppl that would join in) (guess it needs rewording, but i'm ****ed ^^)
You don't represent us.
He can represent me on that though...sign my name on it too will ya?
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:31:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Greniard So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
Who would watch if they didn't at least try hide it? Can you imagine the state Vancouver would be in if the Canucks just did circles on the ice? If you are going to exploit the format I think you need to be a little lot more covert with it.
I'm quite sure they could pull that off no problem, if there was any need to. You are not giving them enough credit.
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Lenasha
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:31:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Greniard
Originally by: Lenasha
Of course this is part of eve but in eve we have a tournament - (sporting event). The people who watched the sporting event are ****ed off because the last match (world cup or supper bowl) was fixed.
So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
Sure alot of people think that (.01% is still alot) but even if that is true at least they fake it and try to put on some kind of show. When they don't the whole fan base (not just the teams fans all of fans) gets up in arms. Do you think the NFL wouldn't come down hard on a team that was payed off to loose and didn't even try to hide it.
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Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:43:00 -
[124]
Originally by: Kittel AND banned from next 3 tournaments for setting up the final!
Makes EVE look bad!
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 00:50:00 -
[125]
Edited by: Greniard on 20/06/2011 00:56:02
Originally by: Lenasha
Originally by: Greniard
Originally by: Lenasha
Of course this is part of eve but in eve we have a tournament - (sporting event). The people who watched the sporting event are ****ed off because the last match (world cup or supper bowl) was fixed.
So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
Sure alot of people think that (.01% is still alot) but even if that is true at least they fake it and try to put on some kind of show. When they don't the whole fan base (not just the teams fans all of fans) gets up in arms. Do you think the NFL wouldn't come down hard on a team that was payed off to loose and didn't even try to hide it.
It wouldn't be any more difficult to covert this stuff up, compared to what they already did. I mean really. All they would've had to do is make sure outbreak had a "bad setup" and not publicly announce they are in fact the same group of people.
I mean you could have the same 10 players playing as completely different teams with a proxy and secondary credit cards. And there would be no connection what so ever.
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Im Super Gay
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:08:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Greniard Edited by: Greniard on 20/06/2011 00:56:02
Originally by: Lenasha
Originally by: Greniard
Originally by: Lenasha
Of course this is part of eve but in eve we have a tournament - (sporting event). The people who watched the sporting event are ****ed off because the last match (world cup or supper bowl) was fixed.
So if they hadn't told you about it, it would've been fine? Also who says wolrd cup or super bowl isn't staged?
Sure alot of people think that (.01% is still alot) but even if that is true at least they fake it and try to put on some kind of show. When they don't the whole fan base (not just the teams fans all of fans) gets up in arms. Do you think the NFL wouldn't come down hard on a team that was payed off to loose and didn't even try to hide it.
It wouldn't be any more difficult to covert this stuff up, compared to what they already did. I mean really. All they would've had to do is make sure outbreak had a "bad setup" and not publicly announce they are in fact the same group of people.
I mean you could have the same 10 players playing as completely different teams with a proxy and secondary credit cards. And there would be no connection what so ever.
Obviously they did it on purpose to troll the eve community. I for one applaud their brilliance. The rest of you need to deal with it.
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Asuri Kinnes
Caldari Adhocracy Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:18:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Cancel Align NOW
Dear SIP.
Thank you for your feedback regarding the recent Eve Online Alliance Tournament. While we understand that you maybe upset by the outcome of this tournament, we are disappointed that you choose to direct your frustration at, us the event sponsors. We have no control over the outcome of the Eve Online Tournament, much like Carlsberg have no control over the outcome in the FA Cup or ESPN have over the outcome of the Superbowl. We suggest that you take your frustration to the appropriate organisation - CCP Games. As a company we would like point out that we have a very strong relationship with CCP Games and we will be working with them in the future. We understand that the gaming community that CCP Games have built up is of a niche market that many other mainstream games do not cater for. Your response to the recent Alliance Tournament and its outcome is a clear indicator that you are not part of the target niche CCP Games are marketing their MMO Eve Online toward. I would suggest that you take a look at other games on the market such as: Farmville. World Of Warcraft. Or possibly: Candy Machine Delux Game.
Again thank you for your feedback, it is appreciated we wish you the best in your future online gaming.
Nvidia Customer Service Team
Completely glossing over the fact that letter writing campaigns *DO* work at making companies change behavior or take certain actions that they might not otherwise take, and have been working since the '60's. Nice job moron. Please re-size your signature to the maximum allowed of 400 x 120 pixels with a maximum file size of 24000 bytes. Zymurgist
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:18:00 -
[128]
Edited by: Ranger 1 on 20/06/2011 01:21:20
And that is ultimately the reality of the situation.
If CCP tried to enforce some very un-EVE-like code of conduct on the participating teams, the only thing that would change is the level acting involved.
At least this way we know EXACTLY where Outbreak and Hydra Reloaded stand as far as their level of respect to the EVE community. That and the sheer audacity of it is more entertaining in it's own way than watching a carefully choreographed combat.
The tournament was over the match before the final. Both teams had the same roots, and this was pointed out on more than one occasion by the commentators. Their victory was complete the moment both of those teams qualified for the finals.
This does NOT take away from the fact that there were some hard fought battles to get there. Over all the action, commentating, coverage, and general organization of the tournament was superb this year.
It is a shame that it had to end on such a lame note, true, but that is a reflection of the two teams involved wishing to make public asses of themselves and generally thumb their noses at the EVE community instead of simply going at each other. It is no reflection on CCP (do you REALLY want them forcing unenforceable codes of conduct down your throat) nor of the tournament in general. Most teams competed admirably.
If you must cast blame, cast it at the appropriate targets. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Larrza
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:21:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Im Super Gay
Obviously they did it on purpose to troll the eve community. I for one applaud their brilliance. The rest of you need to deal with it.
and this is why you're super gay
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:22:00 -
[130]
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Jos Wijnants So the tournament is not a serious event in eve, and will be won by those people with the most isk and friends in EVE.
Apparently that's the way it is .. what's not serious about ISK and friends?
Not much point having a tournament if all what happens in the finals, is they effectively hold each others hands.
Luckily I did not watch it and from what I've read it certainly does not inspire me to watch the next one.
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Larrza
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:27:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Ranger 1 Edited by: Ranger 1 on 20/06/2011 01:21:20
And that is ultimately the reality of the situation.
If CCP tried to enforce some very un-EVE-like code of conduct on the participating teams, the only thing that would change is the level acting involved.
At least this way we know EXACTLY where Outbreak and Hydra Reloaded stand as far as their level of respect to the EVE community. That and the sheer audacity of it is more entertaining in it's own way than watching a carefully choreographed combat.
The tournament was over the match before the final. Both teams had the same roots, and this was pointed out on more than one occasion by the commentators. Their victory was complete the moment both of those teams qualified for the finals.
This does NOT take away from the fact that there were some hard fought battles to get there. Over all the action, commentating, coverage, and general organization of the tournament was superb this year.
It is a shame that it had to end on such a lame note, true, but that is a reflection of the two teams involved wishing to make public asses of themselves and generally thumb their noses at the EVE community instead of simply going at each other. It is no reflection on CCP (do you REALLY want them forcing unenforceable codes of conduct down your throat) nor of the tournament in general. Most teams competed admirably.
If you must cast blame, cast it at the appropriate targets.
Good post, i really do get sick of the mentality of some of the eve community, its like GUD TROLL M8, U MAD? OK BRAH stupid highschool crap, people need to grow the **** up and start making this community alittle more mature, no im not taking it all very serious but jesus, World of Failcraft is so old now yet we get all the rejects who have abandoned it due to ****ty xpacks and what not. Eve used to have a great player base, now its nothing but epeen asshats.
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IsoMetricanTaliac 2
Gallente Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:30:00 -
[132]
What happened doesn't make for good viewing, but what people are forgetting is these people aren't just taking part to give other players/people something to do for a few hours. They are taking part to win OR get the very most they can out of it & if that involves doing deals then so be it as thats the way of EVE & it's legal to do ingame...
There was nothing unfair about what happened & for anyone thats actually been a part of EVE for any reasonable amount of time they will know that paying bribes is an option that EVERYONE has ingame & why should it be left out of possible tactics within the AT?
Yes maybe not every team that took part would of been able to afford to do something like that & if it has been one of those teams then who knows how it would of turned out. It however wasn't one of those teams & the teams that it was had no problems accessing reserves of ISK etc to make good their deal & at a guess everyone walked away from the fight happy.
IF it concerns you so much why don't you run for the CSM next time round with that as one of your aims? that way you will be able to see just how many people really do support that stand & you will be able to push to have it changed, OR maybe you can get a team together for AT-X & show everyone how it's supposed to be done?
In a Time When Many Will Seek Death, There Will Always Be Those Like Me Who Won't Mind Helping Them Along Their Way!?! |
Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:36:00 -
[133]
Besides, if you think about it, any good game (or story for that matter) has characters in it that you LOVE to HATE. It engages your emotions and captures your attention and imagination like nothing else.
EVE needs its bad guys, it's cheats, it's liars. Without them, this would be a very boring game indeed.
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Larrza
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:37:00 -
[134]
Edited by: Larrza on 20/06/2011 01:38:34
Originally by: IsoMetricanTaliac 2
What happened doesn't make for good viewing, but what people are forgetting is these people aren't just taking part to give other players/people something to do for a few hours. They are taking part to win OR get the very most they can out of it & if that involves doing deals then so be it as thats the way of EVE & it's legal to do ingame...
There was nothing unfair about what happened & for anyone thats actually been a part of EVE for any reasonable amount of time they will know that paying bribes is an option that EVERYONE has ingame & why should it be left out of possible tactics within the AT?
Yes maybe not every team that took part would of been able to afford to do something like that & if it has been one of those teams then who knows how it would of turned out. It however wasn't one of those teams & the teams that it was had no problems accessing reserves of ISK etc to make good their deal & at a guess everyone walked away from the fight happy.
IF it concerns you so much why don't you run for the CSM next time round with that as one of your aims? that way you will be able to see just how many people really do support that stand & you will be able to push to have it changed, OR maybe you can get a team together for AT-X & show everyone how it's supposed to be done?
The big picture here was the Master told his hounds to sit, and they done just that.. did they even have a choice? im guessing no. Im guessing not 1 of them are going to bed tonight feeling good about how the end went down, but to each his own. such is life
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Katra Novac
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:44:00 -
[135]
Originally by: IsoMetricanTaliac 2
What happened doesn't make for good viewing, but what people are forgetting is these people aren't just taking part to give other players/people something to do for a few hours. They are taking part to win OR get the very most they can out of it & if that involves doing deals then so be it as thats the way of EVE & it's legal to do ingame...
There was nothing unfair about what happened & for anyone thats actually been a part of EVE for any reasonable amount of time they will know that paying bribes is an option that EVERYONE has ingame & why should it be left out of possible tactics within the AT?
Yes maybe not every team that took part would of been able to afford to do something like that & if it has been one of those teams then who knows how it would of turned out. It however wasn't one of those teams & the teams that it was had no problems accessing reserves of ISK etc to make good their deal & at a guess everyone walked away from the fight happy.
IF it concerns you so much why don't you run for the CSM next time round with that as one of your aims? that way you will be able to see just how many people really do support that stand & you will be able to push to have it changed, OR maybe you can get a team together for AT-X & show everyone how it's supposed to be done?
Paying brides might be an integral part of Eve, but if you allow it into a tournament then the tournament becomes nothing but a joke, it can't even really be considered a tournament.
If CCP consider their tournament a joke and treat it as such, then I guess not much anyone can do about it.
At least I now know it's not a proper tournament, so I'll never bother watching it either. After all who wants to see a fixed match, especially when it's obvious.
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Snake Scofield
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:46:00 -
[136]
Douchebaggery from internet warriors?
No way!
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Majuan Shuo
Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:48:00 -
[137]
Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 01:54:37 tour+na+ment
noun /ˈtərnəmənt/ /ˈto͝or-/ tournaments, plural
(in a sport or game) A series of contests between a number of competitors, who compete for an overall prize
"who compete for an overall prize"
"compete"
CCP I ask you: why even bother hosting this "tournament" if such unsportsmanlike behavior is tolerated and rewarded?
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Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:50:00 -
[138]
Originally by: Katra Novac
Originally by: IsoMetricanTaliac 2
What happened doesn't make for good viewing, but what people are forgetting is these people aren't just taking part to give other players/people something to do for a few hours. They are taking part to win OR get the very most they can out of it & if that involves doing deals then so be it as thats the way of EVE & it's legal to do ingame...
There was nothing unfair about what happened & for anyone thats actually been a part of EVE for any reasonable amount of time they will know that paying bribes is an option that EVERYONE has ingame & why should it be left out of possible tactics within the AT?
Yes maybe not every team that took part would of been able to afford to do something like that & if it has been one of those teams then who knows how it would of turned out. It however wasn't one of those teams & the teams that it was had no problems accessing reserves of ISK etc to make good their deal & at a guess everyone walked away from the fight happy.
IF it concerns you so much why don't you run for the CSM next time round with that as one of your aims? that way you will be able to see just how many people really do support that stand & you will be able to push to have it changed, OR maybe you can get a team together for AT-X & show everyone how it's supposed to be done?
Paying brides might be an integral part of Eve, but if you allow it into a tournament then the tournament becomes nothing but a joke, it can't even really be considered a tournament.
If CCP consider their tournament a joke and treat it as such, then I guess not much anyone can do about it.
At least I now know it's not a proper tournament, so I'll never bother watching it either. After all who wants to see a fixed match, especially when it's obvious.
They got paid in BRIDES?!?
Holy crap, I'd be pretty upset if I were them.
That's like saying "We'd like you to take a dive, and as payment we'll give you this ball and chain to wear for the rest of your life".
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Ranger 1
Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.20 01:56:00 -
[139]
Quote: If I steal a legendary amount of ISK from any player entity, my name will become a byword for treachery.
By your own example, that penalty has been paid.
The thief in your example doesn't have to give back the assets, be banned, or in any way make restitution. It's their reputation that pays the price. That and the possibility of long term repercussions in game from other EVE players.
So their reputation as a group has already been affected (whether they consider that a good thing or a bad thing is a matter of conjecture).
If you feel there should be repercussions from other players in game, well, get to it. Nobody's going to stop you.
===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction. |
Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:02:00 -
[140]
Life in EVE, always a drama. However I do believe that this crosses a line when real world prizes were also up for grabs and makes CCP look pretty bad.
As for the 'winners'... sorry guys, you might get the goodies but your actions in the AT show you are really the 'losers' when the big picture is looked at. Enjoy your loot. You didn't really earn it, and you don't really deserve it and for that reason it will have no real value to you and that empty hollow feeling in your gut that you deny exists just grew a little bigger.
The the participants that did their best. YOU are what the AT is about and why it is there.
~Z
*fake edit* Puts on Flame ******ant Suit.. Flame on 'losers'.
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:09:00 -
[141]
There was no entry fee and they were not prizes, they were giveaways.
So if the Alliances in the final fight decided to split the profit after beating and kicking out all the other Alliances they should be able to do so. Tears are just icing to the cake. |
Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:13:00 -
[142]
Originally by: Benri Konpaku There was no entry fee and they were not prizes, they were giveaways.
So if the Alliances in the final fight decided to split the profit after beating and kicking out all the other Alliances they should be able to do so. Tears are just icing to the cake.
I like the fact that you call prizes (giveaways). Amazing how small minds manipulate words to try and justify poor behavior.
A prize is by definition a reward for winning at something. Thus the rewards for winning the AT were prizes. Not giveaways.
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Fern Dolakar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:19:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Benri Konpaku There was no entry fee and they were not prizes, they were giveaways.
So if the Alliances in the final fight decided to split the profit after beating and kicking out all the other Alliances they should be able to do so. Tears are just icing to the cake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
prize
noun /prīz/ prizes, plural
A thing given as a reward to the winner of a competition or race or in recognition of another outstanding achievement
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:23:00 -
[144]
U mad? Yes u mad!
But that doesn't change the fact they won fair and square. Unless you have evidence of all the other alliances taking a dive to let them through. |
Aiwha
Caldari 101st Space Marine Force Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:26:00 -
[145]
Edited by: Aiwha on 20/06/2011 02:26:08
Originally by: Zora'e
Originally by: Benri Konpaku There was no entry fee and they were not prizes, they were giveaways.
So if the Alliances in the final fight decided to split the profit after beating and kicking out all the other Alliances they should be able to do so. Tears are just icing to the cake.
I like the fact that you call prizes (giveaways). Amazing how small minds manipulate words to try and justify poor behavior.
A prize is by definition a reward for winning at something. Thus the rewards for winning the AT were prizes. Not giveaways.
Stupidity doesn't become you Cupcake.
rabble rabble rabble players I don't have any connection to were better pvp'ers and decided to work together and got 1's and 0's that I can't get rabble rabble rabble.
That's life, that's EVE. I can't heal stupid
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Majuan Shuo
Gallente Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:40:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Benri Konpaku U mad? Yes u mad!
But that doesn't change the fact they won fair and square. Unless you have evidence of all the other alliances taking a dive to let them through.
You are either a troll or didn't watch the fight, so either way your point is invalid.
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Swynet
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:42:00 -
[147]
Originally by: Kittel AND banned from next 3 tournaments for setting up the final!
Makes EVE look bad!
Who?
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:49:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Majuan Shuo Edited by: Majuan Shuo on 20/06/2011 01:54:37 tour+na+ment
noun /ˈtərnəmənt/ /ˈto͝or-/ tournaments, plural
(in a sport or game) A series of contests between a number of competitors, who compete for an overall prize
"who compete for an overall prize"
"compete"
CCP I ask you: why even bother hosting this "tournament" if such unsportsmanlike behavior is tolerated and rewarded?
Sorry, maybe next time we won't beat every other team in the alliance tournament with both alliances to make it to the point where we had both teams in the finals. I look forward to FA competing and making the finals more interesting next year! ---
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Selinate
Amarr Mocking Birds
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:49:00 -
[149]
If I had watched the AT and seen that happen, first thing I would've done is facepalmed. Second thing is laughed.
Welcome to Eve. Have fun.
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:52:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Majuan Shuo
Originally by: Benri Konpaku U mad? Yes u mad!
But that doesn't change the fact they won fair and square. Unless you have evidence of all the other alliances taking a dive to let them through.
You are either a troll or didn't watch the fight, so either way your point is invalid.
I saw the fight, and I also saw them take out all the other teams before that. So I guess you are referring to u not being mad when you say my point is invalid, right? |
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Fern Dolakar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:54:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Fern Dolakar on 20/06/2011 02:54:22
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.20 02:59:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Suitonia ....finals more interesting next year!
I'm sure only the best PVPers in Eve will show next year, and there will probably be 10 times as many people watching too.
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Swynet
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:03:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Swynet on 20/06/2011 03:03:29
Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Suitonia ....finals more interesting next year!
I'm sure only the best PVPers in Eve will show next year, and there will probably be 10 times as many people watching too.
Going to be worst, they're going to stop RMT for velddpar ships or whatever and rmt the matches....ho wait maybe...
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Lady Skank
Ban Evasion inc
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:14:00 -
[154]
I wonder how CCP really feel about it, its obvious CCP made a lot of effort and wanted it to be a super serious promotional event for PR purposes. The tourney costs CCP a fair chunk of cash but they do it because of the buzz it creates, its good for getting PCU records and gives them a talking point on blogs and websites and it gives a very public show case of the games combat and politics.
But the final being so openly rigged? It certainly looks bad to the sponsors, they wont sit back and think "oh its OK EVEs like that and its not Hello Kitty Online" they will just think it was a farce of a tourney by a little indie Icelandic company and might avoid sponsoring them in the future.
I wont blame Hydra or Outbreak for making the most of the opportunity but it did ruin the final of the tourney for me and I am sure many people feel the same, including people from CCP who put all the time into it.
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Ava Stonlai
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:22:00 -
[155]
Boil them in oil, infiltrate their corps/alliances and disband them all! Let them eat what they hath sowed for the rage of the people who dared watch their sporting event! Is is disgraceful that people in alliances might have used the same tactics alliances have been using for years in an alliance tournament to achieve an outcome the spectators didn't like or want!
Surely the companies that sponsored this wanted an honorable and noble competition from people/corporations/alliances that they've surely vetted and tested to make sure none are cheaters, griefers, liars, RMT'ers, botters, blobbers or anything else that is deemed 'bad'. For what other reason would a company pay the bills on this or any other thing certainly it wasn't so they could plaster their name on stuff or try to build 'good will' with those involved in the event, community, for their products/company, madness that is.
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:23:00 -
[156]
Edited by: Benri Konpaku on 20/06/2011 03:24:40 I don't think it looks bad because this is EVE. According to cannon that Amarr prince kid got himself killed for rigging his speeder didn't he? So this is just another example of EVE's culture.
Doesn't mean it wasn't disappointing from the combat point of view, but as an EVE event it delivered full ExcellenceÖ.
Edit : And yes, people can go out there and 'dec them if they wish to do so. It beats riots any day, eh? |
sycore101
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:24:00 -
[157]
I prefered the conga line of day 3 final, that was as classy as you like
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Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:26:00 -
[158]
I'm sure the 34 threads that have been generated in the space of a few hours, and almost 800 posts on the subject are a clear indication of eve dying, and certainly not gaining a lot of publicity for the final. ---
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:31:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Suitonia I'm sure the 34 threads that have been generated in the space of a few hours, and almost 800 posts on the subject are a clear indication of eve dying, and certainly not gaining a lot of publicity for the final.
It's going to be a long wait until next year's tournament. |
Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:33:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Benri Konpaku
Originally by: Suitonia I'm sure the 34 threads that have been generated in the space of a few hours, and almost 800 posts on the subject are a clear indication of eve dying, and certainly not gaining a lot of publicity for the final.
It's going to be a long wait until next year's tournament.
Yep and i still be carebear by that time.. what a destiny hey... Life sux, but i leave being good PvPer to ones who can.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:34:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Suitonia I'm sure the 34 threads that have been generated in the space of a few hours, and almost 800 posts on the subject are a clear indication of eve dying, and certainly not gaining a lot of publicity for the final.
I'm sure the PCU today will support your sarcasm.
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Benri Konpaku
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:40:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Jaroslav Unwanted
Originally by: Benri Konpaku
Originally by: Suitonia I'm sure the 34 threads that have been generated in the space of a few hours, and almost 800 posts on the subject are a clear indication of eve dying, and certainly not gaining a lot of publicity for the final.
It's going to be a long wait until next year's tournament.
Yep and i still be carebear by that time.. what a destiny hey... Life sux, but i leave being good PvPer to ones who can.
You know what's sad? It looks like the tournament is one of the few places were people can have good old gang PvP anymore. The rest seems to be get bubbled and get ganked, fight for a few, then get dropped, . Rinse and repeat. I quit back when Dominion broke PvP and came back to carebear Asteroids this time around, so I don't know if things are getting better now.
Either way I like tournaments. |
Suitonia
Gallente Genos Occidere HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:48:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Sig Sour
Originally by: Suitonia I'm sure the 34 threads that have been generated in the space of a few hours, and almost 800 posts on the subject are a clear indication of eve dying, and certainly not gaining a lot of publicity for the final.
I'm sure the PCU today will support your sarcasm.
I think you need to get better reading comprehension.
The PCU has nothing to do with the aftermath of threads/posts on the subject after the final. And also, the final likely had no effect on the PCU anyway since people didn't know the final was going to be poor quality until they watched it. If it was a fantastic final the PCU would be the same, and there probably wouldn't be so many posts on the subject. ---
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.20 03:57:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Suitonia
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Anyway congratulation on your winning. I kinda enjoyed the last match as well. Tho i thought that those vindicators would rip apart those sleipnirs at the begining. I was wrong.
Even tho for the "rigged finals" You put quite a bill in that fight. I salute you.
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Kalpel
Caldari United Systems of the Allegiance Important Internet Spaceship League
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Posted - 2011.06.20 04:01:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Kittel AND banned for life from any tournaments for setting up the final!
Makes EVE look bad!
Fixed ^^^
It's a complete joke and I won't waste my time watching another alliance tournament again
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Corina's Bodyguard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 04:02:00 -
[166]
I ignore the final AT match. Both teams get something, so who cares. All the other matches are way more important, as they determine who gets nothing.
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Wencher
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Posted - 2011.06.20 04:08:00 -
[167]
Ban them all.
This is something I expect in a counterstrike competition.
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Lady Skank
Ban Evasion inc
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Posted - 2011.06.20 04:18:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Suitonia and certainly not gaining a lot of publicity for the final.
I am positive CCPs sponsors just love the publicity of being associated with a rigged tournament.
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Jaroslav Unwanted
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Posted - 2011.06.20 04:23:00 -
[169]
World pollitics goes to hell. New reconfiguration of power predicts world wide civil war. And you getting hooked up on fairly won EVE alliance tournament...
Both fielded team of HYDRA beat the opponents to get there. So you could actually see two finals instead of one .. Thats win isnt it.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.20 04:32:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Suitonia I think you need to get better reading comprehension.
The PCU has nothing to do with the aftermath of threads/posts on the subject after the final. And also, the final likely had no effect on the PCU anyway since people didn't know the final was going to be poor quality until they watched it. If it was a fantastic final the PCU would be the same, and there probably wouldn't be so many posts on the subject.
No, you do. I didn't say what you are implying I said. Have another go at that comprehension part. I know I said a lot and there is much to think about, so really mill it over.
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Zora'e
Nasty Pope Holding Corp Talocan United
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Posted - 2011.06.20 04:35:00 -
[171]
Originally by: Benri Konpaku U mad? Yes u mad!
But that doesn't change the fact they won fair and square. Unless you have evidence of all the other alliances taking a dive to let them through.
Actually no I am not mad. You just wish I was. I am however disappointed in the AT. BTW, that U mad meme.. only proves that you haven't grown up yet. Have a nice day Cupcake. -
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Natalia Kovac
Minmatar Stimulus Rote Kapelle
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Posted - 2011.06.20 05:06:00 -
[172]
I agree with disqualifying them. Also any other team that was involved in blatant match-fixing such as Razor or Wild Boars.
Really, I don't think anyone gets mad at this **** any more, it's been done so many times, it's like, oh yawn. But in the process they win 100s of billions in prizes and deny us an interesting end to the tournament.
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Jason1138
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Posted - 2011.06.20 05:11:00 -
[173]
"Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me."
yeah pretty much. its on you if you keep paying for this crap. as long as CCP keeps giving you garbage and you keep paying for it, why would they ever change?
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djenghis jan
Amarr Debiloff
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Posted - 2011.06.20 05:41:00 -
[174]
Yeah i think so too ccp should just not hand out the goodies claiming that was a joke too.
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Sig Sour
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Posted - 2011.06.20 05:51:00 -
[175]
You cant disqualify them. That is almost as stupid of a suggestion as the final round was stupid. What you can do is make sure it NEVER HAPPENS AGAIN.
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Rex Liberium
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Posted - 2011.06.20 05:56:00 -
[176]
If you are unsatisfied with their performance go gank them, they are out there in their AT ships.
At least they made the finals memorable, does anybody know who won last year? Or the year before that? You will still know who fixed these finals in two years from now.
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oolk
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.06.20 06:02:00 -
[177]
So much emo downpour in this thread...
Nthing was fixed,sponsors had their products placement,panel pushed it to no end.
Which begs the question that should summarize the thread:
Who will win next year`s tourney?
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Geerunk
Kumovi The G0dfathers
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Posted - 2011.06.20 06:57:00 -
[178]
Hydra reloaded, now the most HATED alliance in eve!!
Are you recruiting?? :)
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Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 07:04:00 -
[179]
Last AT i saw some clip where a match seemed to be delayed starting, then HYDRA blew themselves (up) due to bribery. Initial disappointment lasted seconds before charmed smile at eve's greater complexity being revealed.
I'M OK WITH THIS.
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malcovas Henderson
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Posted - 2011.06.20 07:13:00 -
[180]
Edited by: malcovas Henderson on 20/06/2011 07:13:53 All you whiners are pathetic.
Saying "I'm not watching next years tourney" Pffft pathetic.You are the tpyes that "Quit" every time there's new content, "imbalance", Or died to someone better than you. If you are here next year, YOU WILL watch the tourney. What you threaten is totally hollow.
Nvidia is the best graphic's card. You think people will not buy one in their price range, because of this final? You got to be mad, NOT to fit an Nvidia.
You come on to these Forums to QQ make/post threads,because you are Pathetic.
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Magicblue
Amarr Hunters of capsuleers
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Posted - 2011.06.20 07:14:00 -
[181]
You guys are overreacting, Hydra did what you guys would have done in the honorable situation that outbreak put themselves in. They are normal its the outbreak people that are abnormal Its too bad they messed up yes but since outbreak were giving away their victory its all good. Besides its part of the game. Stop crying. If its that much of a problem then war dec them and see if you can bring them down.
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flapie 2
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.20 07:23:00 -
[182]
Originally by: malcovas Henderson Edited by: malcovas Henderson on 20/06/2011 07:13:53 All you whiners are pathetic.
Saying "I'm not watching next years tourney" Pffft pathetic.You are the tpyes that "Quit" every time there's new content, "imbalance", Or died to someone better than you. If you are here next year, YOU WILL watch the tourney. What you threaten is totally hollow.
Nvidia is the best graphic's card. You think people will not buy one in their price range, because of this final? You got to be mad, NOT to fit an Nvidia.
You come on to these Forums to QQ make/post threads,because you are Pathetic.
A) Nvidia Suck big time, ATI is the best and always will be, no point in making a discusion about that. B) Your statement is based on nothing, go make a new attempt at trolling people, -10 trolling point for you. Or you can always go back to World of Failcraft where you initially came from kktnxbb.
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Magicblue
Amarr Hunters of capsuleers
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Posted - 2011.06.20 07:26:00 -
[183]
Actually nividia doesnt really suck, only the graphic card itself. The programs and updates, drivers everything is awesome! Its just that the card itself doesnt live up to the quality of the program
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Rehceeb
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Posted - 2011.06.20 07:49:00 -
[184]
Edited by: Rehceeb on 20/06/2011 07:50:04 They both made it to the finals fair and square. The problem is that HYDRA essentially had two teams in the tournament giving them double the chances of getting to the finals. If both teams go to the finals then essentially they get all the prizes. They will most likely join back up after this is all over. Frankly, if they both get the prizes...all CCP has done is say that you can have multiple teams in the tournament to raise your chances of winning giving you an edge over every other team in the tournament.
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Casual Massacre
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Posted - 2011.06.20 07:52:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Rehceeb They both made it to the finals fair and square. The problem is that HYDRA essentially had two teams in the tournament giving them double the chances of getting to the finals. If both teams go to the finals then essentially they get all the prizes. They will most likely join back up after this is all over. Frankly, if they both get the prizes...all CCP has done is say that you can have multiple teams in the tournament to raise your chances of winning giving you an edge over every single other team in the tournament.
might want to check where negative 10 got the money for tonights faction gatecamp
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:09:00 -
[186]
Originally by: flapie 2 ATI is the best and always will be
Isn't it kind of hard for them to be the best ù and especially always be the best ù when they don't even exist any more? ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡à you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki |
Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:34:00 -
[187]
Edited by: Whitehound on 20/06/2011 08:34:24 I agree with the OP. Bring back the drama and the need for popcorn. Kick and ban those who avoid the real fights, but just appear to participate for show offs and to pad each other on the back for meta-gaming.
If CCP does not put the "drama hammer" onto those teams then they may as well declare lolzsec the winner for DDoS'ing the EVE server. --
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flapie 2
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:37:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: flapie 2 ATI is the best and always will be
Isn't it kind of hard for them to be the best ù and especially always be the best ù when they don't even exist any more?
Your wrong, they just got another name now, for the real gamer its still ATI tho.
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Sealiah
Minmatar Coffee Lovers Brewing Club ROMANIAN-LEGION
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:49:00 -
[189]
I can see no rule they could have broken there. Two teams - yep. They killed all other teams - thus have proven them selves superior - check.
So, what's the problem? Earlyer there were recorded bribery offers given in the local channel, 20b isk as far as I recall. All goes in eve.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:51:00 -
[190]
Originally by: Sealiah So, what's the problem?
It needs more rules, or allow the Titans in. --
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Rehceeb
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:56:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Sealiah So, what's the problem?
It needs more rules, or allow the Titans in.
What part of two teams therefore doubling your chances of winning is fair? I know they didn't break any rules, but its a rule that should be there. I mean how would you like to go against one team......win.....then find out you have to vs essentially the same team again in a completely different match.
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Leroy Daydreamer
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Posted - 2011.06.20 08:56:00 -
[192]
So bascially after all those "not Hello Kitty World" and "go play WoW" replies, let me summarize:
I bascially can go the eveonline page buy 100 PLEX, exchange them ingame to get me a victory in a TV-like live broadcasted major tournament just to show what a man I am? So that's the spirit of Eve? How lame. That even more because I've never heard that in these other dismissivly named games big events have been set up that way. Why actually even bother to create all these many rules for such a tournament?
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:05:00 -
[193]
Originally by: Rehceeb
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Sealiah So, what's the problem?
It needs more rules, or allow the Titans in.
What part of two teams therefore doubling your chances of winning is fair? I know they didn't break any rules, but its a rule that should be there. I mean how would you like to go against one team......win.....then find out you have to vs essentially the same team again in a completely different match.
What rule would cover this? "Every alliance is only allowed to field one team" wait... that doesn't do anything now does it, since it was already filled... "Two alliances may not work together" aka "Keep your discussions out of game and use more effort to stage your matches". Doesn't exactly work either. Maybe you should write this rule since I can't come up with anything that would help. |
Rehceeb
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:14:00 -
[194]
Edited by: Rehceeb on 20/06/2011 09:17:09 Edited by: Rehceeb on 20/06/2011 09:14:59
Originally by: Greniard
Originally by: Rehceeb
Originally by: Whitehound
Originally by: Sealiah So, what's the problem?
It needs more rules, or allow the Titans in.
What part of two teams therefore doubling your chances of winning is fair? I know they didn't break any rules, but its a rule that should be there. I mean how would you like to go against one team......win.....then find out you have to vs essentially the same team again in a completely different match.
What rule would cover this? "Every alliance is only allowed to field one team" wait... that doesn't do anything now does it, since it was already filled... "Two alliances may not work together" aka "Keep your discussions out of game and use more effort to stage your matches". Doesn't exactly work either. Maybe you should write this rule since I can't come up with anything that would help.
How about no alliance may be created for the sole purpose of alliance tournament entry with the resulting corps in the alliance coming from an already participating alliance?
I know you could create a brand new corp or join another corp then, but then enforcing it would be too much of a hassle on CCP's part. There are loopholes in how I worded that, but it is a start. |
Yosef Kaldhu
Guerrilla Cartel INVICTUS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:15:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
Agrees so much/ This is what makes eve different to every other game on the market and is the reason why im still playing after so many years. |
Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:19:00 -
[196]
Your QQ sustains me.
♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/ |
JitaBUGz TheGreat
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:20:00 -
[197]
Edited by: JitaBUGz TheGreat on 20/06/2011 09:20:51
Originally by: Leroy Daydreamer So bascially after all those "not Hello Kitty World" and "go play WoW" replies, let me summarize:
I bascially can go the eveonline page buy 100 PLEX, exchange them ingame to get me a victory in a TV-like live broadcasted major tournament just to show what a man I am? So that's the spirit of Eve? How lame. That even more because I've never heard that in these other dismissivly named games big events have been set up that way. Why actually even bother to create all these many rules for such a tournament?
Welcome to all the alliances in the North Some may be red, but all might as well be blue. They carebear hump, harder then any highsec player.
Example #1-Allience torny.
Lawl at all the ppl thinking anything more might come of this event. Did u all really expect there to be good fights, with the rules allowed? I a mean really? Blame ccp, blame the carebear's that fought? Nah, blame the idiots that thought they might get some entertainment out of the 0.0 sov humpers.
Also, and yes. Most every player u see that is pvping buys there isk with plex. Got to if u want to win
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P42ALPHA
Gallente DeadOn.
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:23:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Alpheias Your QQ sustains me.
LAWL, your are so awsome. Let me guess, you think u just won the internets.....stupid is, stupid follows.
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Alpheias
Euphoria Released HYDRA RELOADED
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:37:00 -
[199]
Originally by: P42ALPHA
Originally by: Alpheias Your QQ sustains me.
LAWL, your are so awsome. Let me guess, you think u just won the internets.....stupid is, stupid follows.
I **** excellence. That makes me awesome.
If I won anything that would be, I have slept really well and now I am reading the nerdrage on the forums with a cup of delicious coffee. Savoring it and your tears.
♫ When your ship gets blown to bits ♫ And you lose your Faction fits \☻/ Don't worry ♪ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♫ ♪ ♫ ♪ Be Happy \☻/ |
Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 09:45:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Rehceeb
How about no alliance may be created for the sole purpose of alliance tournament entry with the resulting corps in the alliance coming from an already participating alliance?
I know you could create a brand new corp or join another corp then, but then enforcing it would be too much of a hassle on CCP's part. There are loopholes in how I worded that, but it is a start.
Yea. So basically it's nothing. You should try again after you actually thought about it. Unless you already did and this is best you could come up with. (which would be quite sad indeed)
Even if CCP goes for something ******ed like "alliances taking part must be 5 years old" it would only mean that teams would have to buy old alliances and nothing would change.
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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:02:00 -
[201]
The ending fitted EVE very well, but it was boring as **** to watch and a huge anticlimax to the entire evening. I guess congratz are in order though. I thought PL winning again would be the most boring thing that could possibly happen, but the finalists proved me wrong. So cudos to both of you for making what seemed like an impossible acievement become reality.
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Rek Seven
Gallente Zandathorn Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:27:00 -
[202]
This was the first and probably the last time i will watch the Alliance Tournament.
I can't fault the teams as they acted within the rules. However, CCP should change the rules for next year otherwise i don't see the point in having a tournament.
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Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation Frontline Assembly Point
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:44:00 -
[203]
Originally by: Alpheias Savoring it and your tears.
You better check your collection. You are harvesting disappointment. --
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Telvani
Crouching Woman Hidden Cucumber
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Posted - 2011.06.20 10:46:00 -
[204]
I thought eve had a decent player base, threads like this prove me wrong, you are all idiots, this AT has easily been the best so far, never has the level of competition been so great and even at their peak PL did not play this tourney as well as Hydra have done this time.
Go back to your L4 missions and shut up or learn what eve is about before you post.
TL;DR - Hydra played this (highly contested)tourney better than any before.
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Derranna Elkadar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:07:00 -
[205]
Not really bothered, wouldn't have made a thread about it. However I can't help but feel the metagaming and all associated activities should be left on tq. That's where it belongs and I suspect we all love it there, after all it adds a dimension rarely found in games.
I just feel the AT should be purely about skill. This is what the masses crave, every day people watch their sports stars and dream of being abl to do what they do. They also know that when they go home they are sleeping with the brothers and team mates wives and they love that too, until it affects what happens on the field.
Keep AT pure.
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Xia Long
Two Brothers Mining Corp. R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:21:00 -
[206]
This is EVE tbh final was bad , but not for what happened, which is one of the best part of the game, more for how it happened, u guys HYDRA and Outbreak could have played a bit better,some fireshow like the boars and their bff, but that's just my pov ^_^
C'mon guys u think there's a single competition , even in RL, which involves money (isk in our case), that doesn't go this way, if u do then u'r a bit naive (for rl references check italian Serie A) cya
p.s. funny how 9/10 of the posters in this thread r using alts
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Metlec
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:30:00 -
[207]
Originally by: Kittel AND banned from next 3 tournaments for setting up the final!
Makes EVE look bad!
"Setting up" the final?
Plenty of teams had ample opportunity to knock both Hydra and Outbreak out in the previous stages and failed. How would you disqualify them? They conformed to all tourney rules.
Anyone should be congratulated for getting a team to the finals but getting two teams there? That is amazing. Their hard work paid off.
I would imagine that as there is enough whining about this outcome, CCP will radically change the format of the tournament next time.
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Lucilla Giulia
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Posted - 2011.06.20 11:33:00 -
[208]
Originally by: Metlec
I would imagine that as there is enough whining about this outcome, CCP will radically change the format of the tournament next time.
this one made me actually laugh
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Chandler Urandom
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.06.20 12:09:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Taedrin [clarifying what da fuzz is all about]
Huh, thanks.
So they basically played EVE? Well then, cool story, broskies.
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Greniard
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Posted - 2011.06.20 12:17:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Derranna Elkadar Not really bothered, wouldn't have made a thread about it. However I can't help but feel the metagaming and all associated activities should be left on tq. That's where it belongs and I suspect we all love it there, after all it adds a dimension rarely found in games.
I just feel the AT should be purely about skill. This is what the masses crave, every day people watch their sports stars and dream of being abl to do what they do. They also know that when they go home they are sleeping with the brothers and team mates wives and they love that too, until it affects what happens on the field.
Keep AT pure.
Protip: this was on TQ.
Also, which part of what they did doesn't require skill?
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Leroy Daydreamer
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Posted - 2011.06.20 13:22:00 -
[211]
Originally by: Rek Seven This was the first and probably the last time i will watch the Alliance Tournament.
I can't fault the teams as they acted within the rules. However, CCP should change the rules for next year otherwise i don't see the point in having a tournament.
Come on what's wrong? I mean it's "Eve spirit" behind this outcome. It was a great and realistic battle! I totally feel reminded to the intense fights I saw in the tournaments of the World Wrestling Federation when I was younger. Epic fights with surprising ends! ;-)
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Gangotri XII
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Posted - 2011.06.20 13:30:00 -
[212]
tbh, you must respect not only the collaboration between the teams but their victories in both making it to the final, that took a lot of work, true, their fights against each other where boring but they did well in the entire tournament, they earned it, period
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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 13:30:00 -
[213]
Yeah... people on here always love acting all hard like "Eve is harsch and brutal and dark and mysterious!" and ****. End of the day, however, people don't appreciate being ****ed at like this and it's gonna manifest itself in one way or another.
I know I won't be watching next AT. Really no point. Matches not all that exciting. Presentation not all that hot. Topped off by rigged finals. That's just a bit too much childsplay for my taste.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:31:00 -
[214]
The final was a farce. Both teams should be disqualified as what happened is ridiculous. All those smarty remarks "This is Eve", "Not Kitty online" is bull****. We are talking about a community event here, not some alliance vs alliance war where the enemies can do whatever is not prohibited by EULA and most Eve population can't care less about. This event presents Eve to everyone - veterans, new players and even those who only think of becoming a player. This is something ppl spend time to watch and expect some sort of entertainment and competition. This is not entirely Eve - you can't blob, you can't hotdrop or steal your team's ships from the hangar at the last moment, you can't pod, you can't bring whatever ships you want. There's the whole pack of rules that sets the tournament apart from the usual gameplay.
What happened was a disgrace, a spit in the face of all ppl watching the tourney and those who spent their time organizing it, commenting it and competing. It was destroyed by 2 clown teams that imho should be at least disqualified.
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Derranna Elkadar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 14:52:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Greniard
Originally by: Derranna Elkadar Not really bothered, wouldn't have made a thread about it. However I can't help but feel the metagaming and all associated activities should be left on tq. That's where it belongs and I suspect we all love it there, after all it adds a dimension rarely found in games.
I just feel the AT should be purely about skill. This is what the masses crave, every day people watch their sports stars and dream of being abl to do what they do. They also know that when they go home they are sleeping with the brothers and team mates wives and they love that too, until it affects what happens on the field.
Keep AT pure.
Protip: this was on TQ.
Also, which part of what they did doesn't require skill?
Protip: Grow some stones and post with you main.
What I mean is the outcome of AT has very very little impact on TQ. Obviously the AT is run on TQ but again even geographicly it is separate.
Your second point is just strange, I don't see any skill in throwing a match at all. All the work up to that was fantastic and tbh this AT has been the best yet. Like I said i'm not really bothered watching the matches are still fun and like a few people - you included - have mentioned, how do you stop this from happening? Well you can't, you rely on the people not to do it. People probably always will, but it doesn't mean I or anyone else have to like it.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:00:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Korvanis OP wouldn't pay me to agree.
Will pay 20 billion isk and 1 aurum if you keep sitting on the fence undecided. ------------------------------------------------- A friend of death, a brother of luck and a son of a *****
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Ghurthe
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:31:00 -
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CCP just needs to make the reward less juicy. People won't put in as much effort if the reward went back to being a single titan.
I for one am fine with what happened. What I'm upset about is simply how unbelievably boring the matches became.
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.20 15:39:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania It was destroyed by 2 clown teams that imho should be at least disqualified.
Yet they are more pro than you or any of the crap corps you will ever be in, what does that say about you?
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:12:00 -
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Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
Originally by: Estephania It was destroyed by 2 clown teams that imho should be at least disqualified.
Yet they are more pro than you or any of the crap corps you will ever be in, what does that say about you?
1-st define PRO 2-nd That's quite a statement from someone who knows really nothing about me.
Making categorical assumptions about something you know nothing about severely damages your credibility (diplomatically speaking)
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Skinae
Originally by: Allant Doran Makes EVE look exactly like EVE is supposed to if you ask me.
Like a big ****ing joke?
/signed . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Estephania
1-st define PRO 2-nd That's quite a statement from someone who knows really nothing about me.
Making categorical assumptions about something you know nothing about severely damages your credibility (diplomatically speaking)
Pro as in they would wtfbbq pwn you and your corp in a fight.
We are talking about EVE right?
Who are you and why shouldn't I?
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Mordrake
Freelance Economics Astrological resources Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:43:00 -
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To all the cry babies posting in this thread, yer all a bunch of Polly Anne dolts.
Welcome to EVE, where most people do whatever it takes to win / get ahead.
The sooner you all figure that out the happier you will be.
To the winners, great job guys' and gals' I think that is the first clean sweep of first and second in Alliance Tourney history!
Well Done!
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evil hamster
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Posted - 2011.06.20 16:47:00 -
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Originally by: Scarlet des Loupes Edited by: Scarlet des Loupes on 19/06/2011 22:11:44 If next time Chribba buys his way to the final with a Bantam fleet and wins it, it would be fun!
were do i sign up for the Chribba fleet
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