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394763156481011654816418
Caldari
State War Academy
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Posted - 2007.09.21 21:40:00 -
[571]
Yeah pulse suck now. Boost Amarr please!
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Setana Manoro
Gallente
Firefly Inc.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 21:51:00 -
[572]
 Originally by: 394763156481011654816418
Yeah pulse suck now. Boost Amarr please!
Bloody necro-monkey ... he's right though. o.0
I'm not neutral in RAGOON vs BOB, I just dislike both sides. :) |
Parfait M
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Posted - 2007.09.21 21:57:00 -
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Oh WHAT THE ****. I read like 10 pages and skip to the back and realize this is an old thread. My rage is unimaginable. 
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Khadur
Minmatar
Spontaneous Defenestration
The Red Skull
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:02:00 -
[574]
"wtf" moment
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Erlik Draknor
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:02:00 -
[575]
omg i read quite a bit too before i realized how old the thread was 
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Chaplain Havok
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:03:00 -
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Nerf lasers? Yeah sure why not? Its not like lasers are already the worst weapons out there. It has already been pointed out that its safe to assume that most players in eve armor tanks with gallente being the I-WIN button atm. And nice graphs you got there. Sure shows the range of the guns. Yep. ALMOST accurate. Apparently, you didnt consider how much cap it drains vs any other gun. Now lets see.. DPS... If i recall correctly (which I do) Hybrids do more dps than lasers and take like what, 1/10th the cap? (an exaggeration but you get the point). Yes this post might have a negative tone to it but if YOU will ONLY look at range then lets do the same to DPS only and lets nerf the hell out of blasters then. DPS wise, it takes a tiny amount of cap to use and the DPS you get is top notch. After all, lets ignore EVERY other factor EXCEPT DPS (similar to what you did up there as you ONLY considered range). And yes I'm ****ed casue lasers are already hard enough to use before your entire cap runs dry and the only advantage you get over other gun types is the nice range so go ahead and F***ing take out the range and completely cripple the laser will ya? Dont believe me? Go eft a blasterthron, AC melstrm, or even a missile raven. They all last much longer than amarr ships and the DPS comes close if not exceeding (cept the raven) amarr. I might be sounding unreasonable but piloting amarr and assuming how amarr is and how they need a nerf becasue you scribbled down ONE factor of it that is too powerful is just not how I thought CCP would balance the game.
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Parfait M
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:08:00 -
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Originally by: Chaplain Havok
Nerf lasers? Yeah sure why not? Its not like lasers are already the worst weapons out there. It has already been pointed out that its safe to assume that most players in eve armor tanks with gallente being the I-WIN button atm. And nice graphs you got there. Sure shows the range of the guns. Yep. ALMOST accurate. Apparently, you didnt consider how much cap it drains vs any other gun. Now lets see.. DPS... If i recall correctly (which I do) Hybrids do more dps than lasers and take like what, 1/10th the cap? (an exaggeration but you get the point). Yes this post might have a negative tone to it but if YOU will ONLY look at range then lets do the same to DPS only and lets nerf the hell out of blasters then. DPS wise, it takes a tiny amount of cap to use and the DPS you get is top notch. After all, lets ignore EVERY other factor EXCEPT DPS (similar to what you did up there as you ONLY considered range). And yes I'm ****ed casue lasers are already hard enough to use before your entire cap runs dry and the only advantage you get over other gun types is the nice range so go ahead and F***ing take out the range and completely cripple the laser will ya? Dont believe me? Go eft a blasterthron, AC melstrm, or even a missile raven. They all last much longer than amarr ships and the DPS comes close if not exceeding (cept the raven) amarr. I might be sounding unreasonable but piloting amarr and assuming how amarr is and how they need a nerf becasue you scribbled down ONE factor of it that is too powerful is just not how I thought CCP would balance the game.
lol 
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Freya Selene
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:08:00 -
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About the OP (no i havent read 20 pages of comments),
Ofc, with these stats and graphics its kept in mind about the possible options to fit the ships and its ways to keep optimal range....
With the current grid need on pulse lasers, your only able to setup a basic tank (tank or gank is common for Amarr), so to be able to keep optimal you'll need at least an MWD and thats darn hard to fit all together even with decent skills.
While Gallente is able to have the best short range damage (there is no optimal! Just get on his 0km!) combined with heavy tank + MWD, one of the few ships able to fit it (yes you do need +3 implant).
While Minmatar have there racial speed bonus and huge falloff to use to there advantage.
Basicly iam allready a very disapointed Amarr specced pilot, couse there is totaly no veriaty in flying Amarr based ships/guns. Sinds the gangeddon got nurfed, the only decent ship to fly is the Absolution. Even had to drop my beloved Damnation couse someone decided to make it a missile boat. Iam allready xtraining into Minmatarr, couse basicly, with my primary skills in gunnery its faster then to spec into missiles. If these changes ever hit TQ, iam sure my Amarrian days are over.
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Perfect Diamond
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:08:00 -
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You have killed the amarr race. Thankyou for wasting my time playing this game. Amarr has so much wrong with it and you feel you have to give them the shaft. I can't believe you guys.
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Sauromugue
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:11:00 -
[580]
GUYS! This thread is 2 years or so old. Bah why am I typing this anyway. Okay let's let the necro die.
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Leandro Salazar
The Blackguard Wolves
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:11:00 -
[581]
Nothing makes people look more stupid than reading only the first post in a thread 
There is no 'n' in turret
There is no 'r' in faction
There is no 'a' in Scorpion
There is no 'e' in Caldari
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Hanshin Kool
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:12:00 -
[582]
Originally by: Freya Selene
If these changes ever hit TQ, iam sure my Amarrian days are over.
Too bad they hit 2 years ago then...:)
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Almarez
Setenta Corp
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:16:00 -
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Is this a joke? Yes lasers have better optimals but their tracking sucks. Once you get within the optimal they cannot compete with the other turrets.
If hybrids are doing low damage for the cap they use then what the hell about lasers that use twice the cap!
You have got to be kidding me man, what game are you playing, cause it sure has hell isn't Eve.
What playing Amarr feels like.
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Nicocat
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:21:00 -
[584]
That was hilarious. Well done =P
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Originally by: Splagada
SEED ME DADDY
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
Freya Selene
Infinitus Odium
The Church.
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:22:00 -
[585]
Originally by: Hanshin Kool
Originally by: Freya Selene
If these changes ever hit TQ, iam sure my Amarrian days are over.
Too bad they hit 2 years ago then...:)
To bad i havent played quiet some time, only to came back 3/4 months ago, and just noticed this bump. And indeed to bad iam allready about to finish Mini cruiser 5 and being respecced to mini pilot...
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Zaethiel
Murder-Death-Kill
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:31:00 -
[586]
Originally by: 394763156481011654816418
Yeah pulse suck now. Boost Amarr please!
Lets all create alts to Necro threads!
-------------------------- Piwate Bunny Wuv
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Goumindong
Amarr
Merch Industrial
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.09.21 22:37:00 -
[587]
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
Nothing makes people look more stupid than reading only the first post in a thread
Addendum: And not realizing instantly the OP was made in 2005...
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Abye
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.21 23:46:00 -
[588]
Creative necro considering the current laser problems.
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CCP Garthagk: "And that is why GMs aren't DEVs"
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Gneeznow
Minmatar
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.09.21 23:56:00 -
[589]
I was just about to whine, then i realised it was a necro \o/ leave mah geddon alone boa
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Yao Shiu
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Posted - 2007.09.21 23:59:00 -
[590]
necro bastards scared me then!
lock pls!
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Kirov VIII
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Posted - 2007.09.22 00:07:00 -
[591]
The old pulse without nerfl on RANGE & DAMAGE.
Check this post CCP and correct amarr before rev 2.3 please !
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.09.22 02:47:00 -
[592]
increase all laser damage by 10% to make up for horrendous laser cap use and fitting issues plskthnx
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Rialtor
Amarr
Yarrrateers
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Posted - 2007.09.22 02:57:00 -
[593]
Edited by: Rialtor on 22/09/2007 02:57:28
This was the best Necro ever. I just skimmed the original post, and I was like wth? then I read a few response, I thought I was in the twilight zone, I figured the dev was gonna get flamed :). Then I noticed the date, lol.
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Cosmo Raata
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.22 03:02:00 -
[594]
Not sure this is a joke, I found an interview with Oveur stating that they have an idea what to do with amarr, but it starts with a pulse nerf.
Interview
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Deschenus Maximus
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
Digital Renegades
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Posted - 2007.09.22 03:08:00 -
[595]
Originally by: Cosmo Raata
Not sure this is a joke, I found an interview with Oveur stating that they have an idea what to do with amarr, but it starts with a pulse nerf.
Interview
Bastard
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Cosmo Raata
Black Nova Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.09.22 03:09:00 -
[596]
Originally by: Deschenus Maximus
Originally by: Cosmo Raata
Not sure this is a joke, I found an interview with Oveur stating that they have an idea what to do with amarr, but it starts with a pulse nerf.
Interview
Bastard
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Crusix Bargoth
Amarr
The Forgotten Desciples
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Posted - 2007.09.22 03:43:00 -
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I am sure this posted some where in here, but I am not reading 20 pages to see if it was posted.
CCP Hammer, despite the fact that Pulses APPEAR to do more damage, are you even figuring in the way tanks work?
We need that extra damage to punch through the ultra high EM resist on all types of tanks.
Hybrids hit for 2 damage types that have lower resists then Lasers.
Come on, your removing one of the few bonus's Lasers have, their ability to fight in the mid range and keep their highly resisted damage on the target.
If your going to remove our range, give is more damage, or put hard caps or SOMETHING on EM resist, so our now nerfed ability to maintain damage, due to our inability to dictate range, might actually do something.
Flame away, say I am wrong, but alot of people who are "/signing" this are hybrid users.
This comes out of the blue, and is not a good idea, TAKING something from amarr weapons is not any way to fix whats going on with Amarr.
Khanid did nothing to fix our T1 line of ships, and now your taking it one step further and FORCING us to fight in the Blaster ship range, where they will ALWAYS deal more damage then us.
COME ON.
Originally by: Kaathar Rielspar
nerf ponies!!1one
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Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.22 03:52:00 -
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this a Necro?
beccause it was crap then, and is crap now.
does not consider resists, does not cconsider cap use, does not consider optimal/falloff.
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Law Enforcer
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Posted - 2007.09.22 04:51:00 -
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this is just one in a very long line of amarr nerfs over the years.
please don't even bring this back up because ccp with their infinite knowledge might decide they need to be further nerfed or given missles.
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Hello Kitti
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Posted - 2007.09.22 05:18:00 -
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Much needed necro imo.
CCP need to undo the laser nerfs. |
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