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Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.18 14:38:00 - [1] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 22/05/2005 11:33:00 6) How many Loyalty points do I need for each ship? 75.000 û (1x) 1 run Frigate Blueprint (In exchange for Several Dog Tags) 100.000 û (1x) 1 Pre-Build Frigate (In exchange for a Normal Frigate + trade goods) (Empire Agent Offer Only) 350.000 û (1x) 5 run Frigate Blueprint (In exchange for Several Dog Tags) ???.??? û (1x) 1 Pre-Build Frigate (In Exchange for Credits and Loyalty Points) (Pirate Agent Offer Only / Coming in the next Patch) 250.000 û (1x) 1 Run Cruiser Blueprint (In exchange for Several Dog Tags) 300.000 û (1x) Pre-Build Cruiser (In exchange for a Normal Cruiser + trade goods) (Empire Agent Offer Only) 450.000 û (1x) 5 run Cruiser blueprint (In exchange for Several Dog Tags) ???.??? û (1x) 1 Pre-Build Cruiser (In Exchange for Credits and Loyalty Points) (Pirate Agent Offer Only / Coming in the next Patch) 500.000 û (1x) 1 run Battleship Blueprint (In exchange for Several Dog Tags) 600.000 û (1x) 1 Pre-Build Battleship (In exchange for a Normal Battleship + trade goods) (Empire Agent Offer Only) 800.000 û (1x) 1 Pre-Build Battleship (In Exchange for Credits and Loyalty Points) (Pirate Agent Offer Only) ?.???.??? û (1x) 5 run Battleship blueprint (Unverified/Unknown but logic points towards its existence ) 7) Which ships can I get from which faction? Frigates: Gallente: Gallente Navy Comet Amarr: Amarr Navy Slicer Minmatar: Republic Firetail Caldari: Navy Hookbill Guristas: Worm Serpentis: Daredevil Sansha: Succubus Blood Raider: Cruor Arch Angels: Dramiel Cruisers: Gallente: Navy Issue Vexor Amarr: Augoror Navy Issue Minmatar: Stabber Fleet Issue Caldari: Caracal Navy Issue Guristas: Gila Serpentis: Vigilant Sansha: Phantasm Blood Raider: Ashimmu Arch Angels: Cynabal Battleships: Gallente: Megathron Navy Issue Amarr: Apocalypse Navy Issue Minmatar: Tempest Fleet Issue Caldari: Raven Navy Issue Guristas: Rattlesnake Serpentis: Vindicator Sansha: Nightmare Blood Raider: Bhaalgorn Arch Angels: Machariel IÆve noticed that these questions come up most so hopefully this will help a few people out. If I missed anything or you know of any more questions regarding faction ships then feel free to post them, ill add them to the main post. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.18 14:38:00 - [2] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 02/05/2005 17:26:35 After watching topics with questions about faction ships pop up on a daily basis I figured it might be useful to put all the questions and answers in one topic to from the guide sticky. 1) Which Factions give out faction ships? Currently the following factions give out Faction Ships: Gallente Federation Caldari State Amarrian Empire Minmatar Republic Angel Cartel Serpentis Guristas Pirates Blood Raider Covenant Sanshas Nation The following factions do NOT give out faction ships: Ammatar Khanid Kingdom Intaki Syndicate Thukker Tribe Sisters of Eve Mordu's Legion Command Interbus ORE 2) How do I get a Faction ship? In order to get one of these ships youÆll need to work for an agent that works for a corporation who is part of a faction that is on the list above. For example: An agent working for the Gallente Senate will give out Gallente Faction ships. Any corporation within the factions mentioned above will give out the same faction ships. The fastest way of getting a faction ship is by working for a level 4 agent, since level 3's and below donÆt give quite as much loyalty points per mission. Once you reach a certain level of loyalty points your agent might offer you the ship. Your agent will randomly take an offer from the 10 offers that are closest to your current amount of loyalty points. Once you get the offer your agent will request something in return, this varies per offer but usually comes down to either: a normal ship + trade goods + and a Nexus chip or a Pirate Dog Tags. 3) What will agent want for the ship besides Loyalty Points? This varies per offer, there are 2 types of offers you can get. A: The æharderÆ offer which requires LPS + Dog Tags in exchange for a BPC, this type costs the least LPS. B: The æeasierÆ offer which requires LPS + Several Trade Goods a Tech I ship and a Nexus chip. B will cost you more Loyalty points but all of the items needed are fairly easy to find, offer A will require several hard to get Dog Tags, though searching in them for the trade channels/trade forums will usually get you the ones you need. For exact details per ship offer you can check out Hido's agent offers database. It contains most ships and items your agent will offer you. 4) Where do find these Nexus Chips? Please note that this section is a work in progress, finding info about these chips is quite a pain. Nexus chips can be gotten trough agent offers just like ships and items. There are 3 diffrent chips, one for Frigates, one for Cruiser and One for Battleships. The Gallente for example have: Gallente Alpha Nexus Chip - Battleships Gallente Beta Nexus Chip - Cruisers Gallente Gamma Nexus Chip - Frigates From what i found out you can get offer for the chips between the following LPS levels: 500-2.000 LPS - Frigate Chip 2.000-5.000 LPS - Cruiser Chip 5.000-10.000 LPS - Battleship Chip So far everything indicates all agents within a faction regardeless of their corporation or agent division will offer you the Nexus chips. Please note that any more information regarding the mount of LPS your chip costed is welcome, itll allow me to narrow down the exact amounts needed. 5) Why are T2 ships better then Faction ships? Faction ships can be compared to named items, theyÆre better then the T1 versions but canÆt match the T2Æs. Basically theyÆre ænamedÆ ships (Though some are better looking then T2 ships and have æuniqueÆ models). TheyÆre generally considered collectors items rather then real ships, mainly because only the Named Battleships can out perform normal battleships in the battlefield. (Until T2 Battleships come out) T2 Cruisers and Frigates will kick any faction ships ass. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Sherkaner	Posted - 2005.03.18 15:21:00 - [3] Added to the top sticky P.S.: You might want to add ORE Syndicate to the list of factions not giving out faction ships forum rules \| [email protected]
Threat	Posted - 2005.03.18 15:24:00 - [4] Good post. We need to encourage more people to contribute to the agent offer DB. I myself am guilty of this as well. Any links to what missions/levels that contain some of the specific tags that are needed for the offers? Just an FYI i have found that level 2 mission rats seem to drop silver shadow/dread, etc tags alot more frequently than any other level mission.
Balbriggan	Posted - 2005.03.18 15:33:00 - [5] umm, does anyone know which ship you have to provide to get a pre build Nightmare, Machariel et al?
Zeromancer	Posted - 2005.03.18 16:03:00 - [6] Exellent writeup Joshua.
Zoon	Posted - 2005.03.18 16:22:00 - [7] You read my mind :D I was just about to start looking for this info as well :D I so want a Machariel. But since I am currently -3.5 with angel cartel I doubt that will ever happen :(
VortiK	Posted - 2005.03.18 16:26:00 - [8] Nice post, it will help more than one agent mission runner What is a life, devoid of strife ? Glorious Furture
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.18 16:35:00 - [9] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 18/03/2005 16:43:29 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Balbriggan umm, does anyone know which ship you have to provide to get a pre build Nightmare, Machariel et al? Most likely: Mach: Tempest (Since Arch Angels are Minmatar rats) Nightmare: Apocalypse (Being Amarr ratsies) Though im not 100% sure Pirate factions offer the Pre-Build option, i was actually wondering about this on my way home since pirates dont have nexus chips, which are part of the Trade goods you need for the Pre-Build version. Ore has also been added to the list, forgot that one Originally by: Zoon You read my mind :D I was just about to start looking for this info as well :D I so want a Machariel. But since I am currently -3.5 with angel cartel I doubt that will ever happen :( You could try to see if one of the 4 angel cartel corps will let you work for them. Killing Arch Angels will drop your Arch Angel (Corp) and Angel Cartel (Faction) standing but the Domination, Salvation and Guardian Angels should still be neutral to you. And since these 3 corps are part of the Angel Cartel those too offer the Mach --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.18 16:36:00 - [10] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 18/03/2005 16:43:18 Whoopsie --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Lefia	Posted - 2005.03.18 17:09:00 - [11] Great post, I think it needs a small section on acquiring nexus chips though. It took me a bit of forum diving to find out the very little I know about them and would like to see some info on how best to acquire them. Originally by: hired goon ------------------------------------------------ I agree with every point and counter point that has been brought up in this and every other argument ever had. ---------
Zoon	Posted - 2005.03.18 20:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Zoon You read my mind :D I was just about to start looking for this info as well :D I so want a Machariel. But since I am currently -3.5 with angel cartel I doubt that will ever happen :( You could try to see if one of the 4 angel cartel corps will let you work for them. Killing Arch Angels will drop your Arch Angel (Corp) and Angel Cartel (Faction) standing but the Domination, Salvation and Guardian Angels should still be neutral to you. And since these 3 corps are part of the Angel Cartel those too offer the Mach Buuut since the faction hate me, the agents of corporations within the faction will inherit that faction standing towards me, just like corporations do for positive standing... unless it doesn't work the same way in reverse as it does forwards
Jim Raynor	Posted - 2005.03.18 21:05:00 - [13] The 5-run BPC for Faction Cruisers does exist, I've gotten it, I believe it cost 450k LP, IIRC.. ------ ROBBLE ROBBLE
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.18 21:25:00 - [14] Originally by: Lefia Great post, I think it needs a small section on acquiring nexus chips though. It took me a bit of forum diving to find out the very little I know about them and would like to see some info on how best to acquire them. Good idea, im gonna look into that since i dont the exact requires for them. I recall agents give them out at several thousand lps? Originally by: Zoon Buuut since the faction hate me, the agents of corporations within the faction will inherit that faction standing towards me, just like corporations do for positive standing... unless it doesn't work the same way in reverse as it does forwards Well i havent tested but i always assumed that even if your faction standing was low you could still talk to corps in that faction who are neutral to you. Though you can easily check ingame by simply checking the list of Guardian Angel agents to see which can/cant use. I dont have any really low standinds so i cant check myself. Originally by: Jim Raynor The 5-run BPC for Faction Cruisers does exist, I've gotten it, I believe it cost 450k LP, IIRC.. Rgr that adding it to the list. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
marioman	Posted - 2005.03.18 23:07:00 - [15] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain 4) Why are T2 ships better then Faction ships? Faction ships can be compared to named items, theyÆre better then the T1 versions but canÆt match the T2Æs. Basically theyÆre ænamedÆ ships (Though some are better looking then T2 ships and have æuniqueÆ models). TheyÆre generally considered collectors items rather then real ships, mainly because only the Named Battleships can out perform normal battleships in the battlefield. (Until T2 Battleships come out) T2 Cruisers and Frigates will kick any faction ships ass. Faction named items ARE better than tech 2 of the same item....FYI
Nero Scuro	Posted - 2005.03.18 23:42:00 - [16] Originally by: marioman Originally by: Joshua Foiritain 4) Why are T2 ships better then Faction ships? Faction ships can be compared to named items, theyÆre better then the T1 versions but canÆt match the T2Æs. Basically theyÆre ænamedÆ ships (Though some are better looking then T2 ships and have æuniqueÆ models). TheyÆre generally considered collectors items rather then real ships, mainly because only the Named Battleships can out perform normal battleships in the battlefield. (Until T2 Battleships come out) T2 Cruisers and Frigates will kick any faction ships ass. Faction named items ARE better than tech 2 of the same item....FYI He didn't say anything about the items. He said the faction SHIPS are worse than T2 versions, which is true. ---------------- Haha, stupid monkey! Now I'VE got the Oscar! Enjoy your worthless gun!
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.19 00:35:00 - [17] Originally by: marioman Originally by: Joshua Foiritain 4) Why are T2 ships better then Faction ships? Faction ships can be compared to named items, theyÆre better then the T1 versions but canÆt match the T2Æs. Basically theyÆre ænamedÆ ships (Though some are better looking then T2 ships and have æuniqueÆ models). TheyÆre generally considered collectors items rather then real ships, mainly because only the Named Battleships can out perform normal battleships in the battlefield. (Until T2 Battleships come out) T2 Cruisers and Frigates will kick any faction ships ass. Faction named items ARE better than tech 2 of the same item....FYI Named Item = Upgraded Tech I Officer item = T1 upgraded beyond T2. Faction ships = Named ships = Upgraded T1 ships below T2. Officer ships dont exist, though perhaps one day they might add something like "Salvador Sarpati's Customized Vindicator" --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
S'Daria	Posted - 2005.03.19 11:31:00 - [18] Thank you Joshua. /kiss
fairimear	Posted - 2005.03.19 11:51:00 - [19] sticky this omg. 1 point- we have no idea what t2 bs will be like. if they will be full hyped combat ships or have more support like bonuses for fleet combat so they don't step on the toes of dreadnaughts. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.19 12:04:00 - [20] Originally by: fairimear sticky this omg. 1 point- we have no idea what t2 bs will be like. if they will be full hyped combat ships or have more support like bonuses for fleet combat so they don't step on the toes of dreadnaughts. Well my guess is that theyll be like HAC's. And a Bs with base uber resistances = win --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Odet	Posted - 2005.03.23 20:03:00 - [21] josh do u know who owns the 2 luxury yachts? =This podding has been brought to you by Odet, the only way to fry.=
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.23 21:38:00 - [22] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 23/03/2005 21:58:14 I know one of them is in a hangar of a banned player, and is thus sort of lost I think 'voogru' owns the 2nd one, or atleast owned. Hes been in Alaistra for 6 months so its possible he no longer plays eve. Edit: Some info about Nexus chips added, incomplete atm though gonna do some more forum scouting tommorow. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Icarus Starkiller	Posted - 2005.03.24 02:33:00 - [23] Excellent information, Joshua. Have you any information or news on how these will be modified with the upcoming agent missions nerf/buff in the next patch? Currently missions have had reduced LPs, reduced loot drops, and there are serious considerations in reducing bounties as well returning mission running to its pre-exodus numbness. Just curious.
Seramis	Posted - 2005.03.24 09:29:00 - [24] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain ... 2) How do I get a Faction ship? In order to get one of these ships youÆll need to work for an agent that works for a corporation who is part of a faction that is on the list above. For example: An agent working for the Gallente Senate will give out Gallente Faction ships. Any corporation within the factions mentioned above will give out the same faction ships. ... This is not correct. I asked a developer if i can get a faction ship (I asked for the Navy Issue Raven) from every corp of the faction. Answer was NO. You have to work for the faction Navy agents!!! Otherwise you will get some ships offered (HAC, Assault Frig, Interceptors, all kind of tech 1 ships) but never a faction ship.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.24 11:40:00 - [25] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 24/03/2005 11:44:23 Originally by: Seramis Originally by: Joshua Foiritain ... 2) How do I get a Faction ship? In order to get one of these ships youÆll need to work for an agent that works for a corporation who is part of a faction that is on the list above. For example: An agent working for the Gallente Senate will give out Gallente Faction ships. Any corporation within the factions mentioned above will give out the same faction ships. ... This is not correct. I asked a developer if i can get a faction ship (I asked for the Navy Issue Raven) from every corp of the faction. Answer was NO. You have to work for the faction Navy agents!!! Otherwise you will get some ships offered (HAC, Assault Frig, Interceptors, all kind of tech 1 ships) but never a faction ship. I replied to you twice asking which developer said that, you never replied. Zrakor (The mission developer) also replied to your post stating you where wrong. + ive gotten Navy ships from non navy corps so i doubt im wrong Originally by: Zrakor Originally by: Seramis You get faction ships only from agents working for the Navy of the faction (Caldari Navy for Caldari, Amarr Navy for Amarr empire ...). For Pirate factions u have a 'trading' and a 'fighting' corp of the pirates (True Poer is the fighting, True Creations the trading/building part of Sansha's Nation for example). There only the fighting part gives out a faction ship. I asked a developer because i made also missions for a wrong corp of Caldari and wondered that i get no faction ship offer (was over 200k LP at the agent). Hmm, actually you can work for any corp of the appropriate faction. The faction ship offers are configured so that they are faction based, not corporation or division based. @Icarus, The only thing i know is that High Sec rewards will be going down because the forumla was broken at first. (And hopefully low sec rewards will go up ) Bounties will remain the same so there will be no real chance in profit. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Lucre	Posted - 2005.03.24 11:47:00 - [26] Originally by: Sherkaner P.S.: You might want to add ORE Syndicate to the list of factions not giving out faction ships /me imagines faction large mining barge with extra high slot... Shame.
Sissi	Posted - 2005.03.24 11:55:00 - [27] Edited by: Sissi on 24/03/2005 11:56:14 Originally by: Seramis Originally by: Joshua Foiritain ... 2) How do I get a Faction ship? In order to get one of these ships youÆll need to work for an agent that works for a corporation who is part of a faction that is on the list above. For example: An agent working for the Gallente Senate will give out Gallente Faction ships. Any corporation within the factions mentioned above will give out the same faction ships. ... This is not correct. I asked a developer if i can get a faction ship (I asked for the Navy Issue Raven) from every corp of the faction. Answer was NO. You have to work for the faction Navy agents!!! Otherwise you will get some ships offered (HAC, Assault Frig, Interceptors, all kind of tech 1 ships) but never a faction ship. So could this be confirmed or overrun by GM's?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.24 12:25:00 - [28] It has been confirmed by the developer who made the mission offers --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Zoon	Posted - 2005.03.28 10:54:00 - [29] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Zoon Buuut since the faction hate me, the agents of corporations within the faction will inherit that faction standing towards me, just like corporations do for positive standing... unless it doesn't work the same way in reverse as it does forwards Well i havent tested but i always assumed that even if your faction standing was low you could still talk to corps in that faction who are neutral to you. Though you can easily check ingame by simply checking the list of Guardian Angel agents to see which can/cant use. I dont have any really low standinds so i cant check myself. I checked, the faction standing inherits just as it does with positive standing. I can't even use level 1 -20 quality agents! lol!
Zeromancer	Posted - 2005.03.28 13:58:00 - [30] Ok. I have a confirmed Gallente Battleship chip offer from a guy i bought the chip from. He got it from a 8000 LP offer from a lvl3 Federation Administration agent in Luminaire. So it seems that you don't need to work for a agent from a Hightech corp to get it.

Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.28 14:07:00 - [31] Originally by: Zeromancer Ok. I have a confirmed Gallente Battleship chip offer from a guy i bought the chip from. He got it from a 8000 LP offer from a lvl3 Federation Administration agent in Luminaire. So it seems that you don't need to work for a agent from a Hightech corp to get it. Rgr, ive updated the Main post. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Atandros	Posted - 2005.03.28 14:26:00 - [32] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain ?.???.??? û (1x) 5 run Battleship blueprint (Unverified/Unknown but logic points towards its existence ) I distinctly remember Papa Smurf mentioning this offer in a pre-Exodus post, saying that they'll make sure there's always some offer to look forward to (ie, no plateau after which there's no incentive to accumulate LP anymore) and that they currently (a couple of weeks before Exodus) have the 5-run faction BS BPC offer as the highest offer, though he didn't say how much LP it requires. I don't know how to dig up a post that old unfortunately, but for what it's worth I'm 100% certain of reading that.
Firewyre	Posted - 2005.03.30 15:12:00 - [33] Not sure if this is old news, but... I got a Minmatar UUA Nexus Chip (frigate) from a Core Complexions manufacturing agent (lv1) for 500 LPs, when I had a total of 509 LPs. As it was my third day in the game, I had no idea what to do with it. But I've got it now and I'll save it for a rainy day. Hope that helps.
Fjellu	Posted - 2005.03.30 17:01:00 - [34] I can also confirm 100% that some dev (might have been Papa Smurf) said that the top offer is 5X BS BPC. I can also confirm that other than "navy" corps offer faction ships. I got an offer for a Caldari Navy Hookbill from an agent in Caldari Funds Unlimited. However I could never find the Olufami DNA. I even petitioned it after searching through all forums and trolled the market and escrow for 10 days straight. Petition was not answered (other than the usual autoanswer)
Marion Quicksilver	Posted - 2005.03.30 23:12:00 - [35] I know that I saw a post where someone had gotten an Ammatar faction battleship, they posted the picture of it. This was some time ago, so is there anyone out there who can contest (with fact) that the Ammatar don't give out ships?
theRaptor	Posted - 2005.03.31 01:26:00 - [36] I got a Navy Caracal 1-run BPC at 75k LP (Did require a rare tag). At the time I had over 9 standing with the Caldari Navy and I don't know if that affected the offer at all. --------------------------------------------------
aeti	Posted - 2005.03.31 02:43:00 - [37] has anybody worked out where the tags need for pirate faction frigs come from or if they even drop? specifically the private/sergeant elite ones even the gms have no idea but apparently they are out there :\|
JimmySav	Posted - 2005.03.31 12:54:00 - [38] sergeant elite tags dont drop So (as usual) the pirate agents are teh lose Jim'll Fix it For You. ( and you and you!)
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.03.31 13:22:00 - [39] Originally by: JimmySav sergeant elite tags dont drop So (as usual) the pirate agents are teh lose Aye, though next patch will change that. (Better late then never i guess ) --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
duke wellington	Posted - 2005.04.05 04:08:00 - [40] say im lookin to get a vigilant (im a fan of thorax) where should i be and who should i make friends with to find decent serpentis agents?

Josef Rastapopoulos	Posted - 2005.04.05 04:11:00 - [41] Barthezzz, I find this the appropriate time to tell you that I love you.
Seramis	Posted - 2005.04.05 13:31:00 - [42] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain I replied to you twice asking which developer said that, you never replied. Zrakor (The mission developer) also replied to your post stating you where wrong. + ive gotten Navy ships from non navy corps so i doubt im wrong Originally by: Zrakor Sorry, i did not see your post before. Here is the Mail I got from the GM: Hi Mario, To receive a Caldari Navy Issue Raven you need to be working for a Caldari Navy Agent, you can not receive those from other agents than theirs. If you need further assistance, please don't hesitate to contact us again. We'll do all we can to help. Best regards, [GM]Retrofire The EVE Online Customer Support Team
Chrais Mrisith	Posted - 2005.04.09 23:56:00 - [43] I realise that the Intaki Syndicate is probably one of the 'least run' factions due to only consisting of three/four corporations and essentially being an offshoot of the Gallente/Intaki, and possibly because all of their stations are within Imperium (I believe) controlled space, oh and not to mention they have very very little storyline mentions so far, however; Is it known that they do not give out faction ships (I have seen a screenie [unsure how recent] of an Intaki Synd. Tristan, I am sure) because either a developer told you or because a hardcore agent runner for them hasn't ever had an offer, or because no faction ships are known to exist, or what? Also, does Imperium or whoever controls the space have anything against agent runners operating around the Intaki Syndicate's area? Have been considering paying them a visit as they're... well, out of the way and un-camped, but if it really isn't likely to net any decent offers I won't bother. - CM ¼('.'¼) It was him!
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.10 00:56:00 - [44] Originally by: duke wellington say im lookin to get a vigilant (im a fan of thorax) where should i be and who should i make friends with to find decent serpentis agents? Serpentis live in Curse and Fountain, Theres to many diffrent factions to name that currently claim Curse but its still a nice region to live in. For fountain youd need the fountain alliance, i believe they sell travelling/hunting/missions passes for their space as well. Originally by: Josef Rastapopoulos Barthezzz, I find this the appropriate time to tell you that I love you. I <3 you too Originally by: Chrais Mrisith I realise that the Intaki Syndicate is probably one of the 'least run' factions due to only consisting of three/four corporations and essentially being an offshoot of the Gallente/Intaki, and possibly because all of their stations are within Imperium (I believe) controlled space, oh and not to mention they have very very little storyline mentions so far, however; Is it known that they do not give out faction ships (I have seen a screenie [unsure how recent] of an Intaki Synd. Tristan, I am sure) because either a developer told you or because a hardcore agent runner for them hasn't ever had an offer, or because no faction ships are known to exist, or what? Most Gallente ships has been created with 5 textures; Normal, Navy (Gold/Yellowish), Serpentis(Black), Intaki(Greenish) and a Redish texture who only seems to be used by random npcs and T2 ships. So while screenshots exist of Gallente ships with these Intaki textures there are no actuall faction ships these agents will offer you. I hope they one day will since Intaki skins are quite colorfull and look great. Intaki Atron Red Atron Intaki Imicus Red Imicus Intaki Navitas Red Navitas (RAWR!) Etc. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Kesh McCall	Posted - 2005.04.11 13:22:00 - [45] Question: Does only, for example, the Caldari State, give out faction ships or do their proper sup factions like caldari Navy give em out aswell ???
Seramis	Posted - 2005.04.11 14:19:00 - [46] Originally by: Kesh McCall Question: Does only, for example, the Caldari State, give out faction ships or do their proper sup factions like caldari Navy give em out aswell ??? What do you mean with sup factions? Caldari Naavy is a corp of Caldari State, like Lai Dai is another one. There are no sup (maybe you mean sub) factions. And my information (like posted somewhere above) only Caldari Navy gives out Caldari faction ships.
ALPHA12125	Posted - 2005.04.11 21:28:00 - [47] what is with brutor tribe? do they give out faction ships? cause last time i checked the sticky said no. but know it is not mentioned
CptEagle	Posted - 2005.04.12 20:40:00 - [48] How'bout Home Guard, does it give faction ships? It confuses me really bad.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.12 22:08:00 - [49] Heres a List of Corporations that give out Caldari Navy ships, Minmatar Republic Fleet ships, Amarr Navy ships and Gallente Navy ships. If a corporation you are working for is mentioned on any of those pages they will offer you a navy ship. Regardeless of what their corporation name is. Ill make a more detailed list inclusing all pirate and neutral factions tommorow afternoon, somewhat busy today. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Galea Wildfang	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:28:00 - [50] Originally by: Zoon Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Zoon You read my mind :D I was just about to start looking for this info as well :D I so want a Machariel. But since I am currently -3.5 with angel cartel I doubt that will ever happen :( You could try to see if one of the 4 angel cartel corps will let you work for them. Killing Arch Angels will drop your Arch Angel (Corp) and Angel Cartel (Faction) standing but the Domination, Salvation and Guardian Angels should still be neutral to you. And since these 3 corps are part of the Angel Cartel those too offer the Mach Buuut since the faction hate me, the agents of corporations within the faction will inherit that faction standing towards me, just like corporations do for positive standing... unless it doesn't work the same way in reverse as it does forwards You need at least a faction standing of -2.00 or better, to work for an agent within that faction. I've had that happened to me as well, so I trained up Criminal Connections to reach that mark and poof I could work for Serpentis (the only pirate faction left for me I could work for even with criminal connections). With -3.5 it shouldn't be too hard. 'Life on Earth might be expensive, but it does include an anual free trip around the sun'

aeti	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:33:00 - [51] anybody worked out where the sergeant elite tags drop yet?
sableye	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:34:00 - [52] well since this is factional ships thread figure I'd post the offer I got for 1 navy vexor bpc. ---------------- My sister was leading a scientific expedition on the outskirts of Federation space when she and her fellow scientists were set upon by a gang of pirates led by the infamous Tuvan Orth. My sister's work was of a noble calling, but Orth showed them no mercy. Not only did he steal their cargo of precious science equipment, but then proceeded to destroy the science vessels as well. Presumably to keep them from calling for help too soon. After having planned this expedition for more than two years, only to have it so ruthlessly foiled by the nefarious Orth, my sister now suffers from depression and anxiety. Personally, I'm no match for Orth and his cronies, but I know you are, sableye. In exchange for extracting just revenge on them I'll give you one unit of Vexor Navy Issue Blueprint (single run copy, material level: 20, productivity level: 8). Offered Items: These items are being offered to you by your agent: one unit of Vexor Navy Issue Blueprint (single run copy, material level: 20, productivity level: 8) Cost: The agent is requesting the following as payment for the item: one unit of Tuvan Orth's Tag one unit of Shadow Serpentis Gold Tag ten units of Serpentis Brass Tag five units of Serpentis Gold Tag eight units of Serpentis Palladium Tag 250000 Loyalty Points
aeti	Posted - 2005.04.13 01:39:00 - [53] True Reality Offer Description The world can not be understood by us, for we are part of it. But understanding that reality has no fundamental truths, but only different shades of perception is the first step towards becoming one with the universe. At peace with oneself. Your journey is only just beginning, young one, but take pleasure in every step you take, as they are more important than the destination. You are now worthy of flying a Sansha ship, a Succubus. All I require are a few Amarr insignias. You should not worry yourself for taking these lives, for their souls are long since lost. Enlightenment through understanding is an illusion. It can only be achieved through complete, blissful, surrender of will. Remember that. This offer expires at 2005.04.16 06:07:41 Offered Items: These items are being offered to you by your agent: one unit of Succubus Blueprint (single run copy, material level: 20, productivity level: 8) Cost: The agent is requesting the following as payment for the item: one unit of Amarr Navy Squad Leader Insignia one unit of Amarr Navy Sergeant Elite Insignia twenty units of Amarr Navy Sergeant Insignia I twenty units of Amarr Navy Midshipman Insignia III fifteen units of Amarr Navy Sergeant Insignia II 75000 Loyalty Points
Nemex	Posted - 2005.04.13 02:03:00 - [54] Hey, I read that LP requirements for some of the offers changed, I was wondering if it affected navy battleships at all? Does anyone nkow?
Nachtjaeger	Posted - 2005.04.13 06:22:00 - [55] Workshop of Oz Offer Description My nephew Oz is a real wizkid when it comes to gadgets. The family is setting up a workshop for him to showcase his remarkable talents. I'm not sure what wonders he will conjure up there, but from what little I've seen he seems capable of anything. I'm banking on him to become a huge success, after all, he's family. So I'm supporting him and his workshop the best I can. There are a bunch of stuff he's in need of, such as Science Graduates and Megacyte, not to mention qualified employees. Get this to me and I'll give you one unit of Stabber Fleet Issue in return. This offer expires at 2005.04.20 05:54:47 Offered Items: These items are being offered to you by your agent: one unit of Stabber Fleet Issue Cost: The agent is requesting the following as payment for the item: seven thousand units of Electronic Parts fifty units of Science Graduates twenty units of Megacyte 35 units of Morphite one unit of Minmatar UUB Nexus Chip 600000 Loyalty Points Looks like the LP requirements have changed for the worse, either that or my agent is taking the ****
Saerid	Posted - 2005.04.13 08:14:00 - [56] ooh crap. let's hope the LP reqs didn't change. I'm personally at 650k LPs for the sole reason of not having gotten the farking offer for a BS after 5 weeks of running a mission every day (That's missions after hitting 500k LPs,mind). If the BS reqs just went through the roof it makes me one unhappy camper
Seramis	Posted - 2005.04.13 08:29:00 - [57] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Heres a List of Corporations that give out Caldari Navy ships, Minmatar Republic Fleet ships, Amarr Navy ships and Gallente Navy ships. If a corporation you are working for is mentioned on any of those pages they will offer you a navy ship. Regardeless of what their corporation name is. Ill make a more detailed list inclusing all pirate and neutral factions tommorow afternoon, somewhat busy today. I worked for Lai Dai Protection Service, was over 200k LP and got no faction ship or faction ship BPC offer. Not to forget the mail i got from GM. Where did u get these informations?
Nachtjaeger	Posted - 2005.04.13 09:06:00 - [58] I'll be pretty upset as i broke the 500k point about 4 weeks ago and the 600k point about a week and a half ago and have just been waiting for the tempest offer. If this IS the new LP requirement then i'm kicking myself for not taking the 450k +5 mem implant offer when i got it
Dies alta	Posted - 2005.04.13 12:01:00 - [59] Hi I have more than 1,110,000 Lp and still have no offer for the 5 bpc Issue Megathron. Perhaps at 1,200,000 ...
Zoon	Posted - 2005.04.13 12:03:00 - [60] Originally by: Galea Wildfang You need at least a faction standing of -2.00 or better, to work for an agent within that faction. I've had that happened to me as well, so I trained up Criminal Connections to reach that mark and poof I could work for Serpentis (the only pirate faction left for me I could work for even with criminal connections). With -3.5 it shouldn't be too hard. Interesting, very interesting. Now I just need to find access to angel space and some decent agents. That's the hard part

Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.13 12:52:00 - [61] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/04/2005 12:56:27 Originally by: Seramis Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Heres a List of Corporations that give out Caldari Navy ships, Minmatar Republic Fleet ships, Amarr Navy ships and Gallente Navy ships. If a corporation you are working for is mentioned on any of those pages they will offer you a navy ship. Regardeless of what their corporation name is. Ill make a more detailed list inclusing all pirate and neutral factions tommorow afternoon, somewhat busy today. I worked for Lai Dai Protection Service, was over 200k LP and got no faction ship or faction ship BPC offer. Not to forget the mail i got from GM. Where did u get these informations? A: Just because you have the LPS doesnt mean you will get an offer, its pure luck once you reach the lps level. B: The developer that made the missions + Experience (Ive gotten my faction ships from non-navy corps). C: What gamemasters say means very little. I've seen them answer questions wrong so many times. Theyre not the people to ask stuff to, theyre usefull when youre stuck or need a refund though This is also one of the reasons you are not allowed to post ANYTHING a gamemaster says. So please do not post your conversation with the GM here again, i dont want to see this topic get locked As for the ship offers, theres no real point in posting them here. Youll find a link in the sticky topic to the agent offer database, you can submit your offer there to have it added to the offer list. As for the 600k Cruiser offer, i think thats a broken offer and i would bug report it. Its been ingame for quite some time and there has been no mention ever of upping the reqs on faction ships. And to be honest id be pretty ****ed off if they raised the reqs, wouldnt be very fair to those who have been working on getting a ship but havent reached it before the patch. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Sherkaner	Posted - 2005.04.13 14:33:00 - [62] Edited by: Sherkaner on 13/04/2005 14:41:39 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain C: What gamemasters say means very little. I've seen them answer questions wrong so many times. Theyre not the people to ask stuff to, theyre usefull when youre stuck or need a refund though This is also one of the reasons you are not allowed to post ANYTHING a gamemaster says. So please do not post your conversation with the GM here again, i dont want to see this topic get locked I've notified the GMs of the discrepancy between their answer and what devs and players say. I'm tired tired of snipping those posts, too Edit: Perhaps you could add this link to your answer 2). A dev quote is always the best argument to convince sceptics forum rules \| [email protected]
Slaveabuser	Posted - 2005.04.13 17:03:00 - [63] what are faction frigates sold for btw?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.13 17:25:00 - [64] Originally by: Sherkaner Edited by: Sherkaner on 13/04/2005 14:41:39 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain C: What gamemasters say means very little. I've seen them answer questions wrong so many times. Theyre not the people to ask stuff to, theyre usefull when youre stuck or need a refund though This is also one of the reasons you are not allowed to post ANYTHING a gamemaster says. So please do not post your conversation with the GM here again, i dont want to see this topic get locked I've notified the GMs of the discrepancy between their answer and what devs and players say. I'm tired tired of snipping those posts, too Edit: Perhaps you could add this link to your answer 2). A dev quote is always the best argument to convince sceptics Ive shown him the quote 3 or 4 times already in diffrent topic, he just doesnt get it and keeps brining up his GM quote everytime. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Nachtjaeger	Posted - 2005.04.13 19:08:00 - [65] I only posted the offer because i wasn't sure if it was a post patch thing or if it was a post patch bug or if it was a known bug.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.13 19:20:00 - [66] Originally by: Nachtjaeger I only posted the offer because i wasn't sure if it was a post patch thing or if it was a post patch bug or if it was a known bug. Its a knaown bug, but bug reporting it anyway isnt a bad idea. It should speed up the fixing --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Lefia	Posted - 2005.04.15 08:55:00 - [67] I just got the Amarr Cruiser Nexus Chip at 2000 Lp. Just thought I'd let you know for your nexus chip section, gonna try 500lp and see if the frig chip is there. Originally by: hired goon ------------------------------------------------ I agree with every point and counter point that has been brought up in this and every other argument ever had. ---------
Dnakath	Posted - 2005.04.15 22:03:00 - [68] when going for the faction ships... does it matter what TYPE of agent you use or will all agents under the faction that give out ships offer them at some point in time?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.15 22:43:00 - [69] Originally by: Dnakath when going for the faction ships... does it matter what TYPE of agent you use or will all agents under the faction that give out ships offer them at some point in time? All agents offer the same ships regardeless of their division. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Sadist	Posted - 2005.04.16 06:46:00 - [70] Are there different chances to get Navy Nexus chip offers than, say, a generic offer for a cruiser or an implant? Would really want a developer to clarify this. Also - have the ship offers been modified with the patch or is it still the same? _______________________________________________

Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.21 15:13:00 - [71] Pirate factions have gotten a new offer type for their battleships. The offer only requires LPS and Credits. Though the exact amount of LPS is still unknown, since theyve only been added last patch. The same type of offer is considered being added for the Frigates and Cruisers as well. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
VossKarr	Posted - 2005.04.22 04:49:00 - [72] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Pirate factions have gotten a new offer type for their battleships. The offer only requires LPS and Credits. Though the exact amount of LPS is still unknown, since theyve only been added last patch. The same type of offer is considered being added for the Frigates and Cruisers as well. it's already known, actually... > 800k lps.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.22 12:40:00 - [73] Originally by: VossKarr Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Pirate factions have gotten a new offer type for their battleships. The offer only requires LPS and Credits. Though the exact amount of LPS is still unknown, since theyve only been added last patch. The same type of offer is considered being added for the Frigates and Cruisers as well. it's already known, actually... > 800k lps. Exactly 800K or 'More Then' 800k? --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
VossKarr	Posted - 2005.04.22 19:17:00 - [74] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: VossKarr Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Pirate factions have gotten a new offer type for their battleships. The offer only requires LPS and Credits. Though the exact amount of LPS is still unknown, since theyve only been added last patch. The same type of offer is considered being added for the Frigates and Cruisers as well. it's already known, actually... > 800k lps. Exactly 800K or 'More Then' 800k? Judging by this Nightmare offer, it's 800k, but could be more or less for other factions, who knows?
U'puauht	Posted - 2005.04.23 01:26:00 - [75] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Named Item = Upgraded Tech I Officer item = T1 upgraded beyond T2. Faction ships = Named ships = Upgraded T1 ships below T2. Officer ships dont exist, though perhaps one day they might add something like "Salvador Sarpati's Customized Vindicator" Check the stats of the Target Painter I, Target Painter II and the best named Target Painter (Phased Weapon blahblah). Now, I know the TP II ain't implemented (at least I think so?), so the stats might not be final, but for now, those Phased Weapon TPs are overpowering the t2 TPs quite nicely. ______________________________________________________ Deep Space Services : Risk is our business, security our service.
Tom Cray	Posted - 2005.04.23 01:58:00 - [76] Jep 800k LP
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.23 10:59:00 - [77] Originally by: VossKarr Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: VossKarr Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Pirate factions have gotten a new offer type for their battleships. The offer only requires LPS and Credits. Though the exact amount of LPS is still unknown, since theyve only been added last patch. The same type of offer is considered being added for the Frigates and Cruisers as well. it's already known, actually... > 800k lps. Exactly 800K or 'More Then' 800k? Judging by this Nightmare offer, it's 800k, but could be more or less for other factions, who knows? Doh im such a n00blet Originally by: U'puauht Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Named Item = Upgraded Tech I Officer item = T1 upgraded beyond T2. Faction ships = Named ships = Upgraded T1 ships below T2. Officer ships dont exist, though perhaps one day they might add something like "Salvador Sarpati's Customized Vindicator" Check the stats of the Target Painter I, Target Painter II and the best named Target Painter (Phased Weapon blahblah). Now, I know the TP II ain't implemented (at least I think so?), so the stats might not be final, but for now, those Phased Weapon TPs are overpowering the t2 TPs quite nicely. As you said, the T2 aint out yet so it prolly has place holder stats. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Na'Axin	Posted - 2005.04.24 15:37:00 - [78] http://www.coreblack.com/agent_offers.php 5M lp offer "ostrich" ??? is that thing real? or is somebody trying to be funny? (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.24 19:08:00 - [79] Originally by: Na'Axin http://www.coreblack.com/agent_offers.php 5M lp offer "ostrich" ??? is that thing real? or is somebody trying to be funny? Fake. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Barak Gideon	Posted - 2005.04.25 14:18:00 - [80] the agent offer database has a offer which requires a caldari navy raven, 10 K plutoniums blue pills and slaves, and a ****load of tags. and you get a Caldari Ostrich WTF ?

Stinkfeet	Posted - 2005.04.25 15:19:00 - [81] i got a Crow from LvL 3 agent this weekend. prebuilt for minerals, ship, & just over 14K LP. Very Nice, I gave it to my Corp M8.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.25 16:26:00 - [82] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 25/04/2005 18:34:42 Originally by: Barak Gideon the agent offer database has a offer which requires a caldari navy raven, 10 K plutoniums blue pills and slaves, and a ****load of tags. and you get a Caldari Ostrich WTF ? Read the 2 posts above yours. I dont think the offer database requires offers to be checked after submissions, theres several items whose amount of LPS contain a number to much and of course the fake Ostrich thingie on there. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Uglious	Posted - 2005.04.26 08:23:00 - [83] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: VossKarr Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: VossKarr Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Pirate factions have gotten a new offer type for their battleships. The offer only requires LPS and Credits. Though the exact amount of LPS is still unknown, since theyve only been added last patch. The same type of offer is considered being added for the Frigates and Cruisers as well. it's already known, actually... > 800k lps. Exactly 800K or 'More Then' 800k? Judging by this Nightmare offer, it's 800k, but could be more or less for other factions, who knows? Doh im such a n00blet Originally by: U'puauht Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Named Item = Upgraded Tech I Officer item = T1 upgraded beyond T2. Faction ships = Named ships = Upgraded T1 ships below T2. Officer ships dont exist, though perhaps one day they might add something like "Salvador Sarpati's Customized Vindicator" Check the stats of the Target Painter I, Target Painter II and the best named Target Painter (Phased Weapon blahblah). Now, I know the TP II ain't implemented (at least I think so?), so the stats might not be final, but for now, those Phased Weapon TPs are overpowering the t2 TPs quite nicely. As you said, the T2 aint out yet so it prolly has place holder stats. Oh, they are out. Bought 5 of them today. Makes my Tempest hit nice.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.26 09:33:00 - [84] Originally by: Uglious Oh, they are out. Bought 5 of them today. Makes my Tempest hit nice. Well in cas ethis single item just doesnt follow the damn rules. NERFAGE --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Zorglub Kosmos	Posted - 2005.04.26 13:16:00 - [85] afaik, only 1 luxury yatch belongs to player named Voogru, he snatched it in the Quafe Ultra holoreel promotion attacked by the UDI some year ago or more. You could try contacting BIG and ask them about his fate.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.26 13:22:00 - [86] Originally by: Zorglub Kosmos afaik, only 1 luxury yatch belongs to player named Voogru, he snatched it in the Quafe Ultra holoreel promotion attacked by the UDI some year ago or more. You could try contacting BIG and ask them about his fate. In think he actually bought it from the guy who stole it. Im fairly certain its still alive and last time he posted pics about he claimed he wont sell it. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Zorglub Kosmos	Posted - 2005.04.26 13:38:00 - [87] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Zorglub Kosmos afaik, only 1 luxury yatch belongs to player named Voogru, he snatched it in the Quafe Ultra holoreel promotion attacked by the UDI some year ago or more. You could try contacting BIG and ask them about his fate. In think he actually bought it from the guy who stole it. Im fairly certain its still alive and last time he posted pics about he claimed he wont sell it. Or that, but only one yatch have been player caught iirc.
Lucian Alucard	Posted - 2005.04.27 08:08:00 - [88] The Nightmare is my dream boat. Please stop being a third rate flamer,I am tired of reactivating my account just to kick your ass.
Pesadel0	Posted - 2005.04.27 10:03:00 - [89] Can someone clarify something for me ? Is it true that the fleet tempest has only 14 ladar strength?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.27 13:30:00 - [90] Originally by: Pesadel0 Can someone clarify something for me ? Is it true that the fleet tempest has only 14 ladar strength? Yes it does. The Navy Mega, Navy Apoc and Navy Raven have 14 points as well. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Atandros	Posted - 2005.04.29 12:07:00 - [91] The Opux Yacht was grabbed by Iece Quaan at that event (I was literally next to him), who subsequently became a corpmate but now plays WOW, so no chance of getting the thing anyway. That's all I know about the affair, no idea if he sold it / who he sold it to and whatnot. As for sensor strengths, they've been changed. Don't know about the other battleships, but my Navythron has 25 magnetometric strength (and 10 Ion Propulsion strength, 2 more than the normal Mega. GO NAVYTHRON)
VossKarr	Posted - 2005.04.29 21:41:00 - [92] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Pesadel0 Can someone clarify something for me ? Is it true that the fleet tempest has only 14 ladar strength? Yes it does. The Navy Mega, Navy Apoc and Navy Raven have 14 points as well. My CNR has 27 points gravimetric sensor strength.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.04.29 22:39:00 - [93] Originally by: VossKarr Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Pesadel0 Can someone clarify something for me ? Is it true that the fleet tempest has only 14 ladar strength? Yes it does. The Navy Mega, Navy Apoc and Navy Raven have 14 points as well. My CNR has 27 points gravimetric sensor strength. Ah my bad Eve-I must have the old stats. No idea if the Republic Tempest didnt get updated. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Imsdal	Posted - 2005.05.01 11:09:00 - [94] i got the Amarr cruiser nexus chip for 2000 LP's PS: I've already sent the info to the agent offer site
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.02 17:04:00 - [95] Ive added links to Large screenies of almoast all Faction ships in the 2nd post. Theres a few ships of which i still need to get but theyll be online soonish. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Lefia	Posted - 2005.05.02 17:18:00 - [96] Originally by: Imsdal i got the Amarr cruiser nexus chip for 2000 LP's Yet another person, Josh I think it's time to edit the Nexus Chip info. Also, can we get some validation on where exactly the frigate nexus chip drops LP wise? I've heard 500, but I've yet to get one there. Perhaps 1,00? Originally by: hired goon ------------------------------------------------ I agree with every point and counter point that has been brought up in this and every other argument ever had. ---------
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.02 17:24:00 - [97] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 02/05/2005 17:27:38 Originally by: Lefia Originally by: Imsdal i got the Amarr cruiser nexus chip for 2000 LP's Also, can we get some validation on where exactly the frigate nexus chip drops LP wise? I've heard 500, but I've yet to get one there. Perhaps 1,00? If only i knew. 10 diffrent people saying 5 diffrent things = confused Joshua Edit: Its possible the diffrent races offer then at diffrent amounts of lps. Ive changed the Chip section a bit and hopefully ill find more info soon. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
VortiK	Posted - 2005.05.04 07:08:00 - [98] OMG josh, where you got all theses ships ? Nice screenies What is a life, devoid of strife ? Glorious Furture
Gentle bee	Posted - 2005.05.04 08:30:00 - [99] Why Khanid kingdom have not faction ship offers? They are having very nice frig and beautiful Arbitrator frig screen 1 frig screen 2 Khanid Arbitrator screen (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") Bunny's evolution
The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.05.04 09:44:00 - [100] Originally by: VortiK OMG josh, where you got all theses ships ? Nice screenies Don't think he has them... On TQ anyway Not hard to get pictures of things that have their models in the game files; Ganja got screenies of pretty much everything that was in the game DB when he played. -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.

Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.04 11:41:00 - [101] Originally by: VortiK OMG josh, where you got all theses ships ? Nice screenies Haha id wish Like Enslaver said, i replaced the model files for my normal ships with faction ship models and took the screenies that way. Though Gangja list is somewhat outdated. The latest ships such as Freighters arent on there. As for Khanid having no faction ships that aint cool indeed. Same for the Intaki, the Green Intaki Thorax with funky Satelite Dish on top = UBAR. The Khanid Frigate and Cruiser indeed looks amazing as well. Especially the cruiser, the frigate sorta looks like the cruiser after it hit a wall --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Jags	Posted - 2005.05.04 11:48:00 - [102] Joshua if you want piccys of my Navy vexor gimme a yell in game and I will sort some for ya
The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.05.04 12:20:00 - [103] Hehe, it was pretty obvious as I know you aren't that rich, and half of them aren't even ingame yet I'll try to get some slicer pics for you though. -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.04 14:15:00 - [104] If possible id like them at 1600x1200 in a Gallente station. Though the station itself doesnt matter to much. Ive actually been thinking about redoing some in their owns faction stations But ill see about that, gonna snoop around in the game files tommorowish or to see if i can find the remaining navy ships. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
KamikazeHamster	Posted - 2005.05.04 18:59:00 - [105] How badly do I want to do missions for pirates...............
Diobanemon Gluk	Posted - 2005.05.04 22:08:00 - [106] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=177553 Dunno if you'd seen the thread Joshua but I published the exact offer I got and it would seem to me that BS chips are 8-15k offers, manufacturing/construction corps most often but 3 people including myself have got them from intelligence agents.....
Tananda Vaakaja	Posted - 2005.05.05 16:39:00 - [107] Damn.. would LOVE to get the NightMare.. but all the agents are in places that would pod U on sight.. sigh.. I'll have to join a corp out that way.
Kiiith	Posted - 2005.05.05 16:46:00 - [108] isnt this supposed to be stickied?
Grimpak	Posted - 2005.05.05 17:06:00 - [109] OMFG! vindicator reeks style. ------------------- Quote: Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage
Manfred Doomhammer	Posted - 2005.05.05 17:21:00 - [110] Does Mordu's Legion by any chance have some Faction Ships too? (you know.. the Intaki that choose wisely by turning their back on the Federation ) ---- Manfred Doomhammer Fleet Admiral CEO ShadowTec Inc.

Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.05 21:33:00 - [111] Originally by: Manfred Doomhammer Does Mordu's Legion by any chance have some Faction Ships too? (you know.. the Intaki that choose wisely by turning their back on the Federation ) No as they are on the 'We dont give out faction ships list' in the first post... --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Mr Stargate	Posted - 2005.05.06 08:09:00 - [112] nice update, with the pictures :P
Dragy	Posted - 2005.05.07 21:51:00 - [113] ive got a question if i do missions for Federation Navy, which is in Gallente Federation, ill be able to get that Navy Megathron ? and will i be able to chose another corp in Gallente Federation if i find better agent or do i have to stick to one corp ? id be very grateful for your help :)
Dragy	Posted - 2005.05.07 22:22:00 - [114] which corp is best for kill missions in gallente federation and which kill missions are the best ? security, internal security or another one ?
Linavin	Posted - 2005.05.08 18:34:00 - [115] All kill agents are fine. Just stick with the same agent and thow all your lp to them --- Originally by: Wrangler Please repost when you've fixed your capslock.
Bigfoot Hunter	Posted - 2005.05.09 06:29:00 - [116] This is probably a stupid question but do you need a special skill to fly something like say a sansha or angel ship or is it just the standard amar and minmatar skills? -------------------------------------- Fortis cadere, cedere non potest
Kiiith	Posted - 2005.05.09 14:17:00 - [117] some of the faction battleships need two different battleship skills. for example, the vindicator needs gallente battleships and minmater battleship to lvl2. check eve-i.com for all the necessary skills.
VortiK	Posted - 2005.05.09 14:45:00 - [118] Originally by: Kiiith some of the faction battleships need two different battleship skills. for example, the vindicator needs gallente battleships and minmater battleship to lvl2. check eve-i.com for all the necessary skills. It is the Pirate Faction ship in general that requie 2 different race skill. They also have a bonus for each of thoses skills, instead of 2 bonuses on the same skill for standard ships. What is a life, devoid of strife ? Glorious Furture
Sobeseki Pawi	Posted - 2005.05.10 23:20:00 - [119] I assume to use Angel Cartel Agents I'll have to wander into 0.0? ~Sobe Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss What is your Radical Dream?
VortiK	Posted - 2005.05.11 07:10:00 - [120] Originally by: Sobeseki Pawi I assume to use Angel Cartel Agents I'll have to wander into 0.0? They don't have any agents elsewhere, so yes. What is a life, devoid of strife ? Glorious Furture

Bunny Wunny	Posted - 2005.05.11 12:44:00 - [121] whys this un sticcyed?
Zoon	Posted - 2005.05.11 12:56:00 - [122] It was never sticky; just linked from the top sticky thread
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.11 13:45:00 - [123] Aye topics themselves never get sticked around here --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Cranium Jack	Posted - 2005.05.11 16:31:00 - [124] Edited by: Cranium Jack on 11/05/2005 16:33:24 From Hido's agent offers database - WTF is a Caldari Ostrich ? I get the impression that it is bogus.
XTwIsTeDX	Posted - 2005.05.11 16:37:00 - [125] anywhere I can go to find what the stats are on these ships? saw the pictures but im wonderin what they can actually do in terms of weapons, skill reqs etc.
john2	Posted - 2005.05.11 23:50:00 - [126] does anyone know all the stats for all this faction ship? like the angel bs
VortiK	Posted - 2005.05.12 07:16:00 - [127] There is some stats over here on eve-i. They are not completly accurate but it'll give you an idea. BTW Ammatar and Mordus ships doesn't exist. What is a life, devoid of strife ? Glorious Furture
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.12 14:55:00 - [128] Originally by: Cranium Jack Edited by: Cranium Jack on 11/05/2005 16:33:24 From Hido's agent offers database - WTF is a Caldari Ostrich ? I get the impression that it is bogus. The question has come up several time and yes it indeed is fake The stats on Eve-I are correct afaik, Accept for the Mordus and Amaatart ships as posted above, those are only place holders and arent scheduled to be released anytime soon. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Cebrail	Posted - 2005.05.14 14:25:00 - [129] Please move this tread higher in forum list (sticky ?? )
Nirces Y'Tuk	Posted - 2005.05.17 18:50:00 - [130] so its impossible to get the Ammatar Navy Battleship list in eve-i's item database?

Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.18 13:01:00 - [131] Originally by: Nirces Y'Tuk so its impossible to get the Ammatar Navy Battleship list in eve-i's item database? Nope, Atm all Mordus and Ammatar ships in the database are place holders. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Termy	Posted - 2005.05.18 13:27:00 - [132] Offered Item: This item is being offered to you by your agent: two units of Ocular Filter - Improved Cost: The agent is requesting the following as payment for the item: three thousand units of High-Tech Small Arms 600000 Loyalty Points thought u get BS for 600k... what happened?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.18 14:21:00 - [133] Originally by: Termy Offered Item: This item is being offered to you by your agent: two units of Ocular Filter - Improved Cost: The agent is requesting the following as payment for the item: three thousand units of High-Tech Small Arms 600000 Loyalty Points thought u get BS for 600k... what happened? Faction ships arent the only offers you can get, the first post clearly states you MIGHT get a ship offer. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
StarWolfer	Posted - 2005.05.19 18:13:00 - [134] I got "Selynne Mardakar's Tag" wonder what it is used for. Anyone
Dragy	Posted - 2005.05.22 08:14:00 - [135] you know where i can find serpentis corporation to get that Vindicator :) ?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.22 11:14:00 - [136] Originally by: Dragy you know where i can find serpentis corporation to get that Vindicator :) ? In Serpentis and Angel Cartel Space. Serpentis Space is owned by the Fountain alliance and Angel space by the Five. Both are offlimits to neutrals. --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
VortiK	Posted - 2005.05.23 17:28:00 - [137] May you consider my contribution, because it don't fit on your screenshot What is a life, devoid of strife ? Glorious Furture
Rath Amon	Posted - 2005.05.25 14:39:00 - [138] i so want a dramiel....coolest looking ship in eve
Hyey	Posted - 2005.05.25 15:12:00 - [139] Edited by: Hyey on 25/05/2005 15:12:59 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Dragy you know where i can find serpentis corporation to get that Vindicator :) ? In Serpentis and Angel Cartel Space. Serpentis Space is owned by the Fountain alliance and Angel space by the Five. Both are offlimits to neutrals. Keep in mind though, because of the close relationship between serpentis and the Angel Cartel, you will find lvl 4 Serpentis Agents in Curse, and you will find level 4 angel cartel agents in fountain. Just a fun fact. Doesnt solve the off limits to neutral party, but its just that if you have access to one of those pieces of space you have access to two seperate factions. Its easier to build up standing to get to lvl 4 in their respective home regions however. ~~ Hyey I just payed 15 dollars this month just to be able to respond on the forums... stupid cancellation error.
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.05.29 13:57:00 - [140] Originally by: VortiK May you consider my contribution, because it don't fit on your screenshot Tnx Vort ill see what i can do --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Blondy	Posted - 2005.06.03 20:50:00 - [141] Edited by: Blondy on 03/06/2005 21:07:06 Nice Ship, wish i could get a offer like this soon, specialy now that i own over 1,1mil LP
Sherkaner	Posted - 2005.06.03 21:44:00 - [142] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Like Enslaver said, i replaced the model files for my normal ships with faction ship models and took the screenies that way. I'm sorry, but I have been informed that modifying the client in order to take such screenshots is a violation of the EULA, so I had to the links to them. Please also remove the image files on your server. You are of course welcome to replace them with valid screenshots taken by actual owners of these ships. For more information, please mail [email protected]. forum rules \| [email protected]
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.06.03 21:52:00 - [143] Its not my server actually, ill see if i can find the name of the gujy thats hosting em. I think i deleted his evemail. Anyhow, getting replacement pics the 'legal' way is not an option as several of these ships havent been gotten yet. Plus not to mention pie loads of work. What about Websites like Eve-I and Whatstheguysname large screenshot archive, both have pics of ships they dont own. If thats allowed then surely these, the only diffrence being theyre bigger and have a higher res shbould be allowed as well right? Pretty please? Guess this sorta falls under discussing moderation. Which is bad Ohwell, the rest of Eve's loss i guess --------------------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Sherkaner	Posted - 2005.06.03 21:57:00 - [144] Edited by: Sherkaner on 03/06/2005 21:59:09 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Its not my server actually, ill see if i can find the name of the gujy thats hosting em. I think i deleted his evemail. Anyhow, getting replacement pics the 'legal' way is not an option as several of these ships havent been gotten yet. Plus not to mention pie loads of work. What about Websites like Eve-I and Whatstheguysname large screenshot archive, both have pics of ships they dont own. If thats allowed then surely these, the only diffrence being theyre bigger and have a higher res shbould be allowed as well right? Pretty please? Guess this sorta falls under discussing moderation. Which is bad Ohwell, the rest of Eve's loss i guess That's not for me to decide. As I said, please mail us. Edit: and yes, this is discussion of moderation, which is not allowed in the forums either We got a mail addy for a reason forum rules \| [email protected]
AuroraStar	Posted - 2005.06.06 03:44:00 - [145] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 04/06/2005 11:50:58 After watching topics with questions about faction ships pop up on a daily basis I figured it might be useful to put all the questions and answers in one topic to from the guide sticky. 1) Which Factions give out faction ships? Currently the following factions give out Faction Ships: Gallente Federation Caldari State Amarrian Empire Minmatar Republic Angel Cartel Serpentis Guristas Pirates Blood Raider Covenant Sanshas Nation The following factions do NOT give out faction ships: Ammatar Khanid Kingdom Intaki Syndicate Thukker Tribe Sisters of Eve Mordu's Legion Command Interbus ORE 2) How do I get a Faction ship? In order to get one of these ships youÆll need to work for an agent that works for a corporation who is part of a faction that is on the list above. For example: An agent working for the Gallente Senate will give out Gallente Faction ships. Any corporation within the factions mentioned above will give out the same faction ships. The fastest way of getting a faction ship is by working for a level 4 agent, since level 3's and below donÆt give quite as much loyalty points per mission. Once you reach a certain level of loyalty points your agent might offer you the ship. Your agent will randomly take an offer from the 10 offers that are closest to your current amount of loyalty points. Once you get the offer your agent will request something in return, this varies per offer but usually comes down to either: a normal ship + trade goods + and a Nexus chip or a Pirate Dog Tags. 3) What will agent want for the ship besides Loyalty Points? This varies per offer, there are 2 types of offers you can get. A: The æharderÆ offer which requires LPS + Dog Tags in exchange for a BPC, this type costs the least LPS. B: The æeasierÆ offer which requires LPS + Several Trade Goods a Tech I ship and a Nexus chip. B will cost you more Loyalty points but all of the items needed are fairly easy to find, offer A will require several hard to get Dog Tags, though searching in them for the trade channels/trade forums will usually get you the ones you need. For exact details per ship offer you can check out Hido's agent offers database. It contains most ships and items your agent will offer you. 4) Where do find these Nexus Chips? Please note that this section is a work in progress, finding info about these chips is quite a pain. Nexus chips can be gotten trough agent offers just like ships and items. There are 3 diffrent chips, one for Frigates, one for Cruiser and One for Battleships. The Gallente for example have: Gallente Alpha Nexus Chip - Battleships Gallente Beta Nexus Chip - Cruisers Gallente Gamma Nexus Chip - Frigates From what i found out you can get offer for the chips between the following LPS levels: 500-2.000 LPS - Frigate Chip 2.000-5.000 LPS - Cruiser Chip 5.000-10.000 LPS - Battleship Chip So far everything indicates all agents within a faction regardeless of their corporation or agent division will offer you the Nexus chips. Please note that any more information regarding the mount of LPS your chip costed is welcome, itll allow me to narrow down the exact amounts needed. 5) Why are T2 ships better then Faction ships? Faction ships can be compared to named items, theyÆre better then the T1 versions but canÆt match the T2Æs. Basically theyÆre ænamedÆ ships (Though some are better looking then T2 ships and have æuniqueÆ models). TheyÆre generally considered collectors items rather then real ships, mainly because only the Named Battleships can out perform normal battleships in the battlefield. (Until T2 Battleships come out) T2 Cruisers and Frigates will kick any faction ships ass. Thank you joshua, very helpful
Liet Traep	Posted - 2005.06.06 04:22:00 - [146] Originally by: Zoon Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Zoon Buuut since the faction hate me, the agents of corporations within the faction will inherit that faction standing towards me, just like corporations do for positive standing... unless it doesn't work the same way in reverse as it does forwards Well i havent tested but i always assumed that even if your faction standing was low you could still talk to corps in that faction who are neutral to you. Though you can easily check ingame by simply checking the list of Guardian Angel agents to see which can/cant use. I dont have any really low standinds so i cant check myself. I checked, the faction standing inherits just as it does with positive standing. I can't even use level 1 -20 quality agents! lol! Have you tried getting the criminal connections skill? Between that and diplomacy you should be able to modify your standings enough that you can work for them.
Frank Horrigan	Posted - 2005.06.06 11:14:00 - [147] Originally by: Sherkaner Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Like Enslaver said, i replaced the model files for my normal ships with faction ship models and took the screenies that way. I'm sorry, but I have been informed that modifying the client in order to take such screenshots is a violation of the EULA, so I had to the links to them. Please also remove the image files on your server. You are of course welcome to replace them with valid screenshots taken by actual owners of these ships. For more information, please mail [email protected]. Your an evil evil man...
Reiisha	Posted - 2005.06.19 15:39:00 - [148] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Mach: Tempest (Since Arch Angels are Minmatar rats) Nightmare: Apocalypse (Being Amarr ratsies) Angels and Sansha's offer their own battleships (models of the Angel Tyrant, and the Sansha's equivalent). Just thought i'd mention that, haven't read through the thread though to see if someone else did. If the Angels only gave out a modded Tempest.... Ugh...... Gamersland.nl, DE site voor PC gaming!
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.06.23 11:57:00 - [149] Originally by: Reiisha Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Mach: Tempest (Since Arch Angels are Minmatar rats) Nightmare: Apocalypse (Being Amarr ratsies) Angels and Sansha's offer their own battleships (models of the Angel Tyrant, and the Sansha's equivalent). Just thought i'd mention that, haven't read through the thread though to see if someone else did. If the Angels only gave out a modded Tempest.... Ugh...... Which post did you quote this from? It looks quoted out of context as obviously the Pirate rats do not use empire version of ships. Anyhow, got more free time so i figured id start collecting pics of the ship again, as i aint allowed to post my not-so-legal ones If you have a Faction ship whose picture isnt listed in the 2nd post and you would like it to then feel free to email it to me. If possible at 1600x1200 resolution with a station Bg to match their race (If possbile, not required as im not picky but would be nice) (Caldari Navy/Guristas = Caldari Station, Minmatar/Angels = Minmatar Station, Sansha, Blood Raider, Amarr = Amarr Station, Gallente/Serpentis = Gallente Station Bg) Dont forget to mention your Incharacter name in the email if you want it displayed on the picture. Email: [email protected] (Remove the part no spam part of course_ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Bad'Boy	Posted - 2005.06.29 14:59:00 - [150] make this sticky already! MAXSuicide > I LOVE U SIIM MAXSuicide > lets go outback for a quicky siim > that was so desperate attempt

Daolin	Posted - 2005.06.29 20:27:00 - [151] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain If you have a Faction ship whose picture isnt listed in the 2nd post and you would like it to then feel free to email it to me. If possible at 1600x1200 resolution with a station Bg to match their race (If possbile, not required as im not picky but would be nice) (Caldari Navy/Guristas = Caldari Station, Minmatar/Angels = Minmatar Station, Sansha, Blood Raider, Amarr = Amarr Station, Gallente/Serpentis = Gallente Station Bg) Dont forget to mention your Incharacter name in the email if you want it displayed on the picture. Sorry, my screen has max 1280x1024, but here is my good old firetail, as requested with Minnie station background By the way, do you remember the exact date when you got your comet?
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.07.03 11:53:00 - [152] Originally by: Daolin Originally by: Joshua Foiritain If you have a Faction ship whose picture isnt listed in the 2nd post and you would like it to then feel free to email it to me. If possible at 1600x1200 resolution with a station Bg to match their race (If possbile, not required as im not picky but would be nice) (Caldari Navy/Guristas = Caldari Station, Minmatar/Angels = Minmatar Station, Sansha, Blood Raider, Amarr = Amarr Station, Gallente/Serpentis = Gallente Station Bg) Dont forget to mention your Incharacter name in the email if you want it displayed on the picture. Sorry, my screen has max 1280x1024, but here is my good old firetail, as requested with Minnie station background By the way, do you remember the exact date when you got your comet? Already Daolins and Na'Axin's Firetail and Apoc Navy issue have been added. Come rest of the world you know you want to submit your pics as well As for the comet, i think it was somewhere between 01.05 and 01.11. ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Daolin	Posted - 2005.07.03 12:33:00 - [153] Edited by: Daolin on 03/07/2005 12:35:49 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain As for the comet, i think it was somewhere between 01.05 and 01.11. Blah, that doesn't help me much because I got my Firetail on Jan 5th and wanted to know if it was before or after your Comet Doesn't really matter though. Anyway, tremendous job on the faction ship guide, keep up the good work. I'm already curious about the new offers mentioned in the patch notes ...
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.07.06 10:14:00 - [154] Alright with all thw new ship offers about its time to update my list. If people can post offers they get here related to faction ships then that would be quite funky ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Zoon	Posted - 2005.07.06 12:11:00 - [155] Faction Dreadnaught 4tw! (this was a joke by the way, got no evidence at all that they are in )
Zoon	Posted - 2005.07.06 17:53:00 - [156] And now a reply which is useful 10,000 LP 90,000,000 Credits 1 x 1run Minmatar Fleet Firetail ME15 PE6
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.07.06 18:41:00 - [157] Damn 90 mill for a single run bpc? Anyhows, thanks for posting it. Its been added to the main post ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Esrevatem Dlareme	Posted - 2005.07.11 15:31:00 - [158] Originally by: Sherkaner Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Like Enslaver said, i replaced the model files for my normal ships with faction ship models and took the screenies that way. I'm sorry, but I have been informed that modifying the client in order to take such screenshots is a violation of the EULA, so I had to the links to them. Please also remove the image files on your server. You are of course welcome to replace them with valid screenshots taken by actual owners of these ships. For more information, please mail [email protected]. Bah. I was the one hosting the images, they've been removed. ______________________________________________ As I stand, dazzled by the shattered twilight, I think back... I think back to all the events that have brought me here. And I realize... I realize I was ment to come here. Someone wanted me to come here. And now, I have come here.
Daolin	Posted - 2005.07.15 22:12:00 - [159] Some more for the gallery: Daredevil Cynabal Machariel (Yeah, I know, you got the Machariel already, but why else does one buy such a ship but to boast )
Trevize dk	Posted - 2005.07.16 08:03:00 - [160] I couldnt see anybody else have posted this,so here goes: my Navy Issue Caracal

Macca	Posted - 2005.07.16 10:51:00 - [161] I sent an E-mail a few days ago, but in case you missed it Sansha Succubus --------
ReaperOfSly	Posted - 2005.07.16 19:53:00 - [162] Oooooh the spikyness of a daredevil Daredevil in flight --------------------------------------------
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.07.16 21:07:00 - [163] Thanks for all the pics guys, Ive gotten several pics trough email as well, ill be updating them soonish but unfortunatly i am a little bit short on time at the moment ------------------ [WTT: Vigilant]
Berilac	Posted - 2005.07.17 00:28:00 - [164] Amarr Navy Slicer Screens Amarr Navy Slicer 1 Amarr Navy Slicer 2
NightmareX	Posted - 2005.07.17 18:21:00 - [165] Edited by: NightmareX on 17/07/2005 23:42:15 Here is some Raven Navy Issue pictures: Raven Navy Issue Raven Navy Issue 2 Raven Navy Issue 3 Joshua Foiritain, if you want to have the Raven Navy Issue picture on the top of this topic, then you can use the first picture here if you want
Legendas Lothandar	Posted - 2005.07.25 15:57:00 - [166] I think the ship offers are borked after this last patch. 21,000 LP 380,000,000 Credits 4 Run BPC Gallente Navy Comet How this is even worth it is beyond me. I can buy 4 navy comets on escrow for less than that crap offer.
Reaper Man	Posted - 2005.08.04 21:08:00 - [167] Edited by: Reaper Man on 04/08/2005 21:12:47 Edited by: Reaper Man on 04/08/2005 21:11:52 *****ing stuff. How do you keep coming up with all the useful info ? That first word btw is c-r-a-c-k-i-n-g - silly forum rules on words.
Alfred Nobel	Posted - 2005.09.10 19:17:00 - [168] Eve-I has been down a week now, I am finding it very annoying that I can't find details on these ships. Does anyone know another source that has more info on these ships than listed in this thread? I am not particularly interested in screenshots or details of agent offers; what I am looking for is the attributes, fitting, skill requirements and skill bonuses. Some general questions: 1)As I understand it, the pirate faction ships all require and give bonuses for two racial ship command skills. Blood raider ships need Ammar and Minmatar ship command, Gurrista ships need Caldari and Gallente. Does anyone know what ship skills the other three factions use? 2)I have seen a number of pirate faction battleships for sale on escrow and the trade forum. I have yet to see a single Navy issue battleship offered. Does anybody know why this is? Are the navy ships weaker, harder to get, or just have a rep for not being as cool as the pirate faction ships? 3)Is it generally true that the main combat advantage of the faction ships is bigger armor and shield pools? 4)Is there any faction battleship that gets a big drone bay like a domi? I'm sure some of you uber players know the details about these ships; would you please consider taking the time to post some info on this thread?
Fjellu	Posted - 2005.09.11 11:33:00 - [169] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain 3) What will agent want for the ship besides Loyalty Points? This varies per offer, there are 2 types of offers you can get. A: The æharderÆ offer which requires LPS + Dog Tags in exchange for a BPC, this type costs the least LPS. B: The æeasierÆ offer which requires LPS + Several Trade Goods a Tech I ship and a Nexus chip. B will cost you more Loyalty points but all of the items needed are fairly easy to find, offer A will require several hard to get Dog Tags, though searching in them for the trade channels/trade forums will usually get you the ones you need. There is a third kind also, requiring only LP's and ISK. I have tvice got an offer for a 4-run Caldari Navy Raven BPC (ME 20, PE 8) requiring 800.000 LP's and 5500800000 ISK.
Skully	Posted - 2005.09.12 09:28:00 - [170] just got an offer for 200k lp and 1.375.200.000 isk....Raven Navy Issue bpc , 1 run

Tiki Rar	Posted - 2005.09.12 13:12:00 - [171] Edited by: Tiki Rar on 12/09/2005 13:13:42 Ashimmu <3 Linkeh1 Linkeh2 Father of the Bumpageddon™
xBounty Hunterx	Posted - 2005.09.27 03:00:00 - [172] how come the frigate cost 90mil. and the bs cost 90mil?
Hoshi	Posted - 2005.09.27 12:07:00 - [173] Here is a bunch of Hookbill pictures. Caldari Navy Hookbill
Soulita	Posted - 2005.09.27 18:40:00 - [174] Originally by: Fjellu I can also confirm that other than "navy" corps offer faction ships. I got an offer for a Caldari Navy Hookbill from an agent in Caldari Funds Unlimited. However I could never find the Olufami DNA. I even petitioned it after searching through all forums and trolled the market and escrow for 10 days straight. Petition was not answered (other than the usual autoanswer) I have at least one of Olufami DNA, its a mission drop.
d'hofren	Posted - 2005.09.28 20:51:00 - [175] Here is a shot of my Vigilant for your archives. --- Originally by: Winterblink It's an online game. Online games are always populated at people who look at their wood elf and whine that everyone else's dagger is bigger than theirs.
Termy	Posted - 2005.10.02 23:19:00 - [176] waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a sec, wooooah, back up... So i make it to 800k LP right, get a 4 run BPC for 5.5bil... Now the current price is 1.8bil/ship so thats 1.8*4=7.2bil 7.2-5.5= 1.7bil... Now... i just get 1.7bil for making it to 800K LP??? I mean cmon thats like getting 1 ship for 800, not 4... ----------- Mercenaries for hire :)
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.10.02 23:21:00 - [177] Originally by: Termy waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a sec, wooooah, back up... So i make it to 800k LP right, get a 4 run BPC for 5.5bil... Now the current price is 1.8bil/ship so thats 1.8*4=7.2bil 7.2-5.5= 1.7bil... Now... i just get 1.7bil for making it to 800K LP??? I mean cmon thats like getting 1 ship for 800, not 4... 1.8 Bill? Which faction ship is that? ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Termy	Posted - 2005.10.03 11:57:00 - [178] Navy Raven ----------- Mercenaries for hire :)
Tessen	Posted - 2005.10.03 13:27:00 - [179] Edited by: Tessen on 03/10/2005 13:29:54 Edited by: Tessen on 03/10/2005 13:29:35 Pictures NB : Mega Navy is a Vindic skin and Ashimmu/Cruor are Khanid skins
Javoch	Posted - 2005.10.04 16:10:00 - [180] Just got the Navy Issue Caracal BPC (1 run, 20 me, pe 8) offer. Same tag req's as listed (Hido's Agent Offer DB) but LP's requested are 150,000 not 75,000. Just doesn't seem worth it. If flying is riding in an airplane then swimming is riding in a boat. If you want to experience the element GET OUT of the vehicle!

royal killer	Posted - 2005.10.08 13:56:00 - [181] i don't get it. How do i get a Vigilant ?? by the thing u sayd
Xune	Posted - 2005.10.08 14:12:00 - [182] Edited by: Xune on 08/10/2005 14:15:50 Edited by: Xune on 08/10/2005 14:14:18 Edited by: Xune on 08/10/2005 14:13:45 Vindicator mow¦s 1 2
Dagreed	Posted - 2005.10.12 12:29:00 - [183] I think I've found what will be next after my vigilant Love the 'serpentis' look on Gallente ships
Kadra	Posted - 2005.10.13 07:30:00 - [184] Based on the descriprion ("show info"), the daredevil is a Guardian Angel ship rather than Serpentis, though it may be distibuted by serpentis angents (I bought the ship rather than working towards it myself). "Little hard data is to be had on the Daredevil's exact origin, but it is believed that Guardian Angel engineers created it to serve as a defensive complement to the Cartel's Dramiel frigate. In both flair and utility it closely resembles its counterpart, but it eschews offensive capabilities in favor of greater defensive potential and stronger armor plating. A tough nut to *****."
Slithereen	Posted - 2005.10.13 13:14:00 - [185] Originally by: Tiki Rar Edited by: Tiki Rar on 12/09/2005 13:13:42 Ashimmu <3 Linkeh1 Linkeh2 Looks like the station I stay in. Same sky setting, same planetscape. I got an Asimmu there. Hmmm... _______________________________________________ "Is it me or the bad guys just getting totally pathetic?"---Clover, Totally Spies, "Hope is wasted on the Hopeless."---Mandy, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy. "Stars are holes in the sky from which the light of the Infinite shine through."---Confucius.
Terranid Meester	Posted - 2005.10.13 20:44:00 - [186] You don't mention CONCORD in your faction list. A few people would probably like a CONCORD/DED Hyperion/Frigate. I don't think CONCORD give anything out though. Id personally also like a Serpentis Tristan but still maybe one day :)
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.10.13 20:49:00 - [187] Originally by: Terranid Meester You don't mention CONCORD in your faction list. A few people would probably like a CONCORD/DED Hyperion/Frigate. I don't think CONCORD give anything out though. Id personally also like a Serpentis Tristan but still maybe one day :) You cant run missions for CONCORD so that automaticly rules out getting any LPS or offers from their agents ------------------ [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Terranid Meester	Posted - 2005.10.13 21:03:00 - [188] Ah well I don't like them anyway the bunch of do gooders :D
Zumi	Posted - 2005.11.11 15:57:00 - [189] Well I scored a Cruiser Class Ashimmu last night doing a complex.. was a nice find....
Mirph	Posted - 2005.11.11 16:20:00 - [190] Originally by: Zumi Well I scored a Cruiser Class Ashimmu last night doing a complex.. was a nice find.... what do u mean that u scored? what lvl is the complex? ------------------ Road Runner

Jet Collins	Posted - 2005.11.11 17:46:00 - [191] First off Joshua Foiritain thanks for the great info. Ok I have a question. I'm slowly building up my LP to get the faction tempest. From my understanding the best offer to get this is the 600k LP offer, and this offer requires a Nexus Chip. So my questions is and anyone that knows the answer is more than welcome to Answer. First is the Alpha chip an 8000lp offer? Second do only certain corps give out the Chips? The reason I ask is that I have had an agent in the 8000-15000 LP range several times and never have seen the Chip. So do I need to go to anouther corp or keep trying? They faction I'm working for is the Minmatar Mining Corporation which give fations ships. Thanks Thanks
Gaelron	Posted - 2005.11.11 18:37:00 - [192] Originally by: Mirph Originally by: Zumi Well I scored a Cruiser Class Ashimmu last night doing a complex.. was a nice find.... what do u mean that u scored? what lvl is the complex? Cruiser BPC's drop in 4/10's I have gotten 3 gila BPC's in the last 2 months in different guristas 4/10's.
KillmAll187	Posted - 2005.11.12 00:25:00 - [193] Originally by: Fjellu However I could never find the Olufami DNA. I even petitioned it after searching through all forums and trolled the market and escrow for 10 days straight. Petition was not answered (other than the usual autoanswer) I have this DNA. It drops from a level III kill mission. I cant remember which one but I know you always get DNA from it just not always Olufamis.
Mafarrico	Posted - 2005.11.16 15:09:00 - [194] Edited by: Mafarrico on 16/11/2005 15:09:49 I believe the Damsel in Distress lvl 3 mission always has one named pirate that dros DNA. But it changes so you may need to do it sevral times before getting the right DNA.
Lorette	Posted - 2005.11.17 04:07:00 - [195] Ya ive got 9x Kruul DNA from my lv2 damsel in distress missions. Only DNA ive ever seen so far ig.
Shassin Val'Mere	Posted - 2005.11.25 03:18:00 - [196] Originally by: Kadra Based on the descriprion ("show info"), the daredevil is a Guardian Angel ship rather than Serpentis, though it may be distibuted by serpentis angents (I bought the ship rather than working towards it myself). "Little hard data is to be had on the Daredevil's exact origin, but it is believed that Guardian Angel engineers created it to serve as a defensive complement to the Cartel's Dramiel frigate. In both flair and utility it closely resembles its counterpart, but it eschews offensive capabilities in favor of greater defensive potential and stronger armor plating. A tough nut to *****." I think it is a bit misleading. One of the guys in our corp has picked up 2 BPCs for daredevils during a 1/10 serpentis drug complex. I was with him the second time. We have both of them built now and running. So apart from earning them, you can also get the BPCs in loot. Daredevils are a nice ship too, i like them, and their cylon raider look.
Uncauzi	Posted - 2005.12.22 01:05:00 - [197] So, does faction matter at all then?
Vampirate	Posted - 2005.12.25 17:43:00 - [198] Originally by: Shassin Val'Mere Daredevils are a nice ship too QFT and fun to fly
Sarthu	Posted - 2005.12.25 17:44:00 - [199] aye, check the sig... ________ Regards, Sarhtu
Mikha'il Pelegius	Posted - 2006.01.04 01:33:00 - [200] Recently obtained and fitted my Augoror Navy Issue so I thought I could contribute with some pictures. A beautiful ship with a black camo design (not to mention, killer slot layout). http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/GNVY/augoror_navy_issue1.png http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/GNVY/augoror_navy_issue2.png ----------------------

DevicX	Posted - 2006.01.08 03:59:00 - [201] Where would one find a daredevil or dramiel BPC? THey both sound angel, but i heard something about the daredevil is serpentis?
Mikha'il Pelegius	Posted - 2006.01.12 20:44:00 - [202] Serpentis have a subdivision called Guardians, who IIRC are hired from the Angel Cartel guardian division. So it has an influence of both Angel and Serpentis. ----------------------
Talas Dreven	Posted - 2006.01.25 06:14:00 - [203] Edited by: Talas Dreven on 25/01/2006 06:23:11 Originally by: Fjellu However I could never find the Olufami DNA. I even petitioned it after searching through all forums and trolled the market and escrow for 10 days straight. Petition was not answered (other than the usual autoanswer) I've got several of his DNA in my hanger. I'm not sure but as far as I remember I picked them up doing LV-2 or LV-3 missions.
Pytria Le'Danness	Posted - 2006.01.25 08:29:00 - [204] Originally by: DevicX Where would one find a daredevil or dramiel BPC? I got a Daredevil BPC as drop from a ship in the 1/10 complex in Auvergne. Originally by: KillmAll187 Originally by: Fjellu However I could never find the Olufami DNA. ... ...It drops from a level III kill mission. I cant remember which one but I know you always get DNA from it just not always Olufamis. The old "Damsel" which is now a "Seven Brothel" or "Prison" mission. And as you say, the pilot in charge of the facility changes, but usually drops a DNA.
Seyah Remmus	Posted - 2006.02.10 06:59:00 - [205] ANyone know if other factions(i.e. Khanid) will be changed to give out Navy Ship offers, what with new bloodlines coming in and all? I ask as my CEO informed me you cant get a Navy Apoc from Khanid Navy(they are amarr after all)which made me j/k
LordMyrddin	Posted - 2006.02.23 08:25:00 - [206] Originally by: Fjellu I can also confirm 100% that some dev (might have been Papa Smurf) said that the top offer is 5X BS BPC. I can also confirm that other than "navy" corps offer faction ships. I got an offer for a Caldari Navy Hookbill from an agent in Caldari Funds Unlimited. However I could never find the Olufami DNA. I even petitioned it after searching through all forums and trolled the market and escrow for 10 days straight. Petition was not answered (other than the usual autoanswer) I know this is way late and probably pointless by now, but I got Olufami's DNA from one of the missions I ran for FIO. It was a level 3 kill the traitor type mission in Ommare.
Cyrus Gideon	Posted - 2006.02.23 12:34:00 - [207] Hi, I got two questions: 1. Since Angels are Minmatar rats, will I loose faction standing with the Minmantar when doing their missions? 2. Im pretty new to eve (about 500k SP), will I be able to do Archangel cartel missions?
Victor Exima	Posted - 2006.02.23 13:19:00 - [208] Originally by: Jet Collins First is the Alpha chip an 8000lp offer? Second do only certain corps give out the Chips? 1. Firstly you need a Minmatar UUC nexus chip for Fleet Tempest. UUA is for a frigate. UUC offer is for 8000lp and really rare. This is why they used to sell 150-200mil range before the price check. Current value is unknown to me so I'm willing part from mine somewhere 200mil range if you are interested. 2. No clue. People generally say that corp does not matter when it comes to agent offers. Happy hunting!
CardboardSword42	Posted - 2006.03.26 22:04:00 - [209] How do you raise your standing with pirate factions, out of curiosity? Your Sig is to large, please read the forum rules - Ductoris
Uggster	Posted - 2006.03.27 01:13:00 - [210] Nice work Joshua. You've answered a question or 2 of mine in that lot.

Hephaesteus	Posted - 2006.03.27 08:21:00 - [211] Pic of my navy Mega Navy Megathron ----------------------------------------------- Knowing all, when all is unknown.
GinoShin	Posted - 2006.04.12 13:54:00 - [212] Hi , What faction cruiser will Tuvan Orth's Tag get me?
Riven Starkill	Posted - 2006.06.07 08:23:00 - [213] Thanks Joshua, this was a great thread. But... I haven't found any place where I can check out the stats on these ships...? eve-i.com is now officially dead, so does ANYONE have the information? Thanks
JP Beauregard	Posted - 2006.06.20 18:50:00 - [214] In case anyone was keeping track of possible changes to faction ship offers with today's static update, this just in. The Vexor Navy Issue offer for tags (one unit of Tuvan Orth's Tag / one unit of Shadow Serpentis Gold Tag / ten units of Serpentis Brass Tag / five units of Serpentis Gold Tag / eight units of Serpentis Palladium Tag) comes at 150,000 LP. ** PILCO - We Service Brains of All Sizes **
Malfesa Longoten	Posted - 2006.06.20 19:00:00 - [215] Any more updates? Like, say... the Caldari Navy Raven which comes at (or USED to come at) 200k LP and 500m ISK?
Parhelion	Posted - 2006.06.28 07:01:00 - [216] Searchable ship database here: http://essdb.milair.net/essdb.php -==[ ESSDB - EVE Ship Stats DataBase ]==-
Galk	Posted - 2006.06.28 12:38:00 - [217] Linkage Navy Mega... True battleship style ______ Long ago one gorgeous night, we let the stars grow free. We let Zhuge do that once, he came back carrying a traffic cone, a forsale sign and three empty bottles of dutch lager. He also lost his Zimmer Frame... - Imaran
Hockston Axe	Posted - 2006.06.28 21:01:00 - [218] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain 4) Where do find these Nexus Chips? Please note that this section is a work in progress, finding info about these chips is quite a pain. Nexus chips can be gotten trough agent offers just like ships and items. There are 3 different chips, one for Frigates, one for Cruiser and One for Battleships. The Gallente for example have: Gallente Alpha Nexus Chip - Battleships Gallente Beta Nexus Chip - Cruisers Gallente Gamma Nexus Chip - Frigates From what i found out you can get offer for the chips between the following LPS levels: 500-2.000 LPS - Frigate Chip 2.000-5.000 LPS - Cruiser Chip 5.000-10.000 LPS - Battleship Chip So far everything indicates all agents within a faction regardless of their corporation or agent division will offer you the Nexus chips. I received a full set of Amarr nexus chips within the past week, and had a cruiser chip from a little earlier and had declined a BS chip back when I didnÆt know what these nexus chips even were. All three offers were titled ôA Gift For Things To Comeö and cost only LPÆs. Ammar MIY-1 Nexus Chip (frigate)- 500 LP Ammar KIU-1 Nexus Chip (cruiser)- 3000 LP Ammar TIL-1 Nexus Chip (BS)- 8000 LP The offers came from Administration, Advisory and Manufacturing agents from a small Royal corp and a huge R&D corp.
HElrider2	Posted - 2006.07.02 20:00:00 - [219] are the lps all from one agent or do they add up frpm all my agents ?
MuffinsRevenger	Posted - 2006.07.04 12:55:00 - [220] Originally by: HElrider2 are the lps all from one agent or do they add up frpm all my agents ? one agent only :) Originally by: The Wizz117 jeez those guyz @ ccp talk like sweedish nobody will take u seriouse with that cind of accent.

Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.07.04 13:03:00 - [221] only one agent sorry
Mugze Baby Caldari The Dank Crew	Posted - 2006.09.07 02:56:00 - [222] Originally by: CardboardSword42 How do you raise your standing with pirate factions, out of curiosity? Social skill Diplomacy is a really good way.


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