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Roime
Shiva Furnace
1366
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Posted - 2012.10.29 23:42:00 -
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Moderation has quite simply improved a lot since ISD team started to tend to this mad herd of shiptoasters. This thread is also a good idea. Shiva Furnace - recruiting again! |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
202

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Posted - 2012.10.30 10:29:00 -
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MailDeadDrop wrote:CCP Gargant wrote:When we remove posts, we generally have an unwritten rule that we leave a post that explains why some posts were removed. If there is no reason listed, feel free to either report the thread with the question or file a petition to get an explanation. Why is it that this is an "unwritten rule?" I feel I must be overlooking something, as my initial reaction was "the written rule should be thou shalt make an explanatory post when deleting other posts." And then have to justify (to higher ups; not us) those rare occasions (that I'm unable to imagine presently) where it is necessary to delete posts and not explain why it was done. MDD
To add to Eshtir's point and clarify mine, it is nowhere stated for public view. You are absolutely correct that we should always explain our actions, and by us I am referring to the Community Devs. We don't have a comprehensive rulebook for being us and many of these rules and methods are taught through doing rather than reading. That is why I called this an unwritten rule when I should have called it a mandatory step of our work. CCP Gargant | Community Representative |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
953
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Posted - 2012.10.30 11:17:00 -
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Corina Jarr wrote:Just noticed a post of mine vanished between last night and now (along with at least 3 others). Yay for noticing. Can't figure out why though. One of them it would make sense (rather flaming and rude, had more censored than not  ), but mine and the other one don't make sense at all.  So this is a general question to those who moderate (and if it has been asked and answered before I apologize): is there a set policy for when to remove posts without saying why? Or is it up to the moderator to let us know why they made the posts vanish? Just curious.
Alot of my posts vanish all the time, often after a certain person who I shall not name right now has posted in them attacking my character. I have noticed how easy it is to game the report system. Say you're offended, post is removed 
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
812
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Posted - 2012.10.31 06:42:00 -
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^ That is because your posts have reached the state of nirvana and are free to leave and be happy after breaking the continual cycle of **** these forums are. I'm not shitposting. |

F'elch
Wall Street Trading
53
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Posted - 2012.10.31 09:49:00 -
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ISD Type40... not seen control of communication like this before outside of Bad Korea. |

googoogajoob
Culture
0
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Posted - 2012.10.31 10:22:00 -
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F'elch wrote:Offensive post regarding moderation discussion removed - CCP Falcon Moderation discussion is moderated.
Who watches the Watchmen? |

KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
89
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Posted - 2012.10.31 22:06:00 -
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CCP Gargant wrote:MailDeadDrop wrote:CCP Gargant wrote:When we remove posts, we generally have an unwritten rule that we leave a post that explains why some posts were removed. If there is no reason listed, feel free to either report the thread with the question or file a petition to get an explanation. Why is it that this is an "unwritten rule?" I feel I must be overlooking something, as my initial reaction was "the written rule should be thou shalt make an explanatory post when deleting other posts." And then have to justify (to higher ups; not us) those rare occasions (that I'm unable to imagine presently) where it is necessary to delete posts and not explain why it was done. MDD To add to Eshtir's point and clarify mine, it is nowhere stated for public view. You are absolutely correct that we should always explain our actions, and by us I am referring to the Community Devs. We don't have a comprehensive rulebook for being us and many of these rules and methods are taught through doing rather than reading. That is why I called this an unwritten rule when I should have called it a mandatory step of our work.
Undocumented procedures - the road to chaos and lawsuits.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
818
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Posted - 2012.11.01 06:24:00 -
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^ If their procedures are undocumented, that just means less burning and shredding when things go wrong.
They are just one step ahead of the pros. I'm not shitposting. |

Iam a Spy2
solo and loveing it
28
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Posted - 2012.11.01 06:36:00 -
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All right fine ill post here how displeased iam with ISD members locking stuff when we give our thoughts.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode lock this post.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168335&find=unread
i was state my feeling on how you "ccp" drop the ball on drone and there drops turn them unless in probing and a waste of ammo to use.
Now ive think ISD have to damn much power in the forums and beening were i from i dont like people blocking my speach.
This is not China,Russia or most of the middle east so do us a favor ccp stop the bull $hit locks.
You dont like what we have to say deal with it when i come to the next fanfest i will tell you what i think about stuff you done and i wont watch my word so beat on really colorfull wording come fanfest.
Hell come to my state and have a Pub crawl here save me the time comeing to fanfest and ill tell you in person what i think. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
818
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Posted - 2012.11.01 06:50:00 -
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http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp
Go to 1:57 to hear about the changes to rogue drones.
Also that comment section or the half time report thread, might be a better place to spend your time whining at. I'm not shitposting. |
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
960
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Posted - 2012.11.01 10:33:00 -
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Iam a Spy2 wrote:All right fine ill post here how displeased iam with ISD members locking stuff when we give our thoughts. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode lock this post. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168335&find=unreadi was state my feeling on how you "ccp" drop the ball on drone and there drops turn them unless in probing and a waste of ammo to use. Now ive think ISD have to damn much power in the forums and beening were i from i dont like people blocking my speach. This is not China,Russia or most of the middle east so do us a favor ccp stop the bull $hit locks. You dont like what we have to say deal with it when i come to the next fanfest i will tell you what i think about stuff you done and i wont watch my word so beat on really colorfull wording come fanfest. Hell come to my state and have a Pub crawl here save me the time comeing to fanfest and ill tell you in person what i think.
So he locked an unconstructive rant post & now you're angry about it?
Crimewatch 2.0: Protecting stupid people & rewarding lazy people. This hurts the smart & industrious people by making their intelligence & industry provide them with less benefit over the stupid & lazy people. ~ Ruby Porto |

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc. Shadow Cartel
159
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Posted - 2012.11.01 11:57:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:So he locked an unconstructive rant post & now you're angry about it?
Pretty much what it looks like to me
Iamaspy - Try putting some suggestions of your own in there rather than just mindlessly ABLOOBLOOing and you might get a bit more traction. |

IHOPEIDONTGET BANNED
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:38:00 -
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**** you and your moderation, i could not give a ****. I used to like eve forums, not there is just no discussion, NO WONDER YOUR SUBS GOING DOWN SINCE 50% OF YOUR POPULATION ARE TOLLS.
**** YOU ! |

IHOPEIDONTGET BANNED
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:40:00 -
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F'elch wrote:Offensive post regarding moderation discussion removed - CCP Falcon
Yeah, keep doing that china thing. UNSUBBED |

IHOPEIDONTGET BANNED
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2012.11.01 12:47:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote: Frankly, most of the stuff that goes on on these forums has made me laugh my ass off for the last 10 years or so, but in the same respect while we all love to laugh and joke, the line is always there and shouldn't be crossed.
I'm not laughing anymore, maybe we have different sense of humor. Sad that i have to live by yours. |

Alice Saki
15634
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Posted - 2012.11.01 13:03:00 -
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IHOPEIDONTGET BANNED wrote:**** you and your moderation, i could not give a ****. I used to like eve forums, not there is just no discussion, NO WONDER YOUR SUBS GOING DOWN SINCE 50% OF YOUR POPULATION ARE TOLLS.
**** YOU !
Best Alt Ever. Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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CCP Falcon
398

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Posted - 2012.11.01 13:17:00 -
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I'm going to advise people as to why this thread was created :
It was created for constructive criticism and discussion on moderation of the EVE Online forums. It was created for people to voice their general opinions regarding the actions of our Volunteer moderators. It was created for civil discussion of the above points.
It was not created for :
Ranting and bad language. Personal attacks on CCP / ISD. Trolling of CCP / ISD.
Keep your posts in line with the forum rules, and be sure that if you're going to offer criticism, you do it constructively and without venom, and there will be no further problems.
Remember that we are here to make sure the forums stay relatively clean, and usable for the community. We all enjoy a little banter, but in the same respect, we have a zero tolerance policy for people making attacks on ISD Volunteers or CCP Employees.
If you have issues, you can do the following :
For general comments and questions, or constructive criticism regarding moderation, post in this thread. For specific problems with individual members of the ISD Volunteer Team or CCP Games, file a petition under the category "Other Issues" and the subcategory "Forums".
I will remind everyone, that f people continue to post in breach of the rules, they take the consequences for doing so squarely on their own shoulders.
CCP Falcon -á-á||-á-áEVE Community Team -á|| -á-áEVE Illuminati -á-á||-á-á@CCP_Falcon |
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Bart Starr
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
133
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Posted - 2012.11.01 21:29:00 -
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While I tend to be critical of ISD policies, I commend them for moving the 'Avatar/Like and get likes' threadnaughts to OOPE where they belong. While they were amusing for awhile, they have lingered far too long on the front pages of GD - over a year now.
Page 1 of GD is one place where people go to get up-to-date information of recent events in EVE. (The other place being themittani.com.)
Filling it with contentless social threadnaughts was a clear violation of well established rules - in an era where those rules are strictly enforced.
I commend the EVE Community team for doing what needed to be done and moving them to OOPE where they belong. The avid participants of those threads can now carry on their conversation in OOPE, without the rest of being forced to witness them on the front page of GD. |

TheBreadMuncher
Boxxed Up Industries EPIC Alliance
380
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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:06:00 -
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I'm glad this thread exists. Some sacrifices were listened to  "We will create the introduction thread if that is requested by the community. Also, we will have an ISD Seminar about the CCL team in the coming weeks in which you can ask your questions about the CCL team and provide some constructive feedback to us." - Countless pages of locked threads and numerous permabanned accounts later, change is coming. |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
804

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Posted - 2012.11.01 22:07:00 -
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Merged with the main Moderation discussion thread.
Thanks. ISD Suvetar,-áCaptain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department We are hiring! |
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Anslo
BHEI Galactic Construction The Unforgiven Alliance
496
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:25:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:Anslo wrote:Why did the EVE IN 3 WORDS thread get deleted??? Normally I see the point to moderation but come on. In a sea of whinning and rage, you'd delete something..fun? It didn't get deleted. It got moved to Eve Fiction 
Oh welp, never mind. Thanks Falcon o7
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Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
20
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Posted - 2012.11.03 11:03:00 -
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Something mildly interesting happened here:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168629&find=unread
"Thread locked at OP's request"
I have no particular beef with that thread or the ISD involved, and I agree that the thread's main issue was resolved. What interests me is that it seems to imply ownership of a thread by the OP. In my opinion, once a thread has been created it should belong to the community as a whole. It would be a shame if a good discussion were shut down because the OP decides to take his ball and go home.
So, again, no problem with the specific thread but I am interested in the policy of "thread ownership." "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |
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CCP Falcon
443

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Posted - 2012.11.03 16:13:00 -
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Yuri Wayfare wrote:Something mildly interesting happened here: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=168629&find=unread"Thread locked at OP's request" I have no particular beef with that thread or the ISD involved, and I agree that the thread's main issue was resolved. What interests me is that it seems to imply ownership of a thread by the OP. In my opinion, once a thread has been created it should belong to the community as a whole. It would be a shame if a good discussion were shut down because the OP decides to take his ball and go home. So, again, no problem with the specific thread but I am interested in the policy of "thread ownership."
It's been a policy of ours since the EVE Forums first began, that if someone starts a thread they have the ability to request that it's locked.

CCP Falcon -á-á||-á-áEVE Community Team -á|| -á-áEVE Illuminati -á-á||-á-á@CCP_Falcon
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Yuri Wayfare
Suddenly Ninjas Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
20
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Posted - 2012.11.03 17:45:00 -
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CCP Falcon wrote:It's been a policy of ours since the EVE Forums first began, that if someone starts a thread they have the ability to request that it's locked. 
Waah! Sputter! Unsub!
Well I would prefer otherwise, but if that's the policy it's cool  "Suddenly, trash pickers! HUNDREDS of winos going through your recyclables." -Piugattuk
Be careful what you wish for. |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
2028
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Posted - 2012.11.04 04:08:00 -
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Just making a final post that forum moderation on Eve-O is the worst I ever encountered.
I personally moderated forums such as TWC, various corp forums where I was a director on different alts, but the lack of teaching your volunteer mods basic reading comprehension is absoluetely unaccetpable.
Roughly 20 years of posting on message boards and newsgroups and moderating them, and not even a warning - ever. Then, I get banned on EveO by some illiterate redneck...
Thought I may volunteer and help improve the situation myself, but that action convinced me I'd have to work with the worst morons haunting the internet
If I could remember the Idiots name I'd invite him, so he can take over morons. after I left - he's more qualified than I'll ever be.
No - I'm not emoragequiting, just quitting these forums.
Rejeoice! You know... morons. |

rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
822
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Posted - 2012.11.04 07:40:00 -
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^ So your saying the ISD is racist?
I'm not shitposting. |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
817

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Posted - 2012.11.04 20:27:00 -
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Just to clarify here;
ISD cannot and do not ban people or nominate people for banning; that is a CCP level decision. I have no idea what happened in your situation, LCO - but it was not the moderator team that did it.
I know there are a few infractions that can merit an automatic ban without receiving a warning; using racist terms is one of those reasons however. ISD Suvetar,-áCaptain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department We are hiring! |
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Kell Tarhun
Perkone Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.11.04 22:26:00 -
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https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=169449&find=unread
False judgement of ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
as my post differs a lot with previous post locked To be honest there are 2 diffrent posts: With diffrent type of terms, posts inside and statements included
Such things considered there is no REOPENING CLOSED THREAD as those closed by ISD's are new topics I think ISD have not checked and compered text inside. Considering there is huge diffrence in my eyes in both of them there is no argument about REOPENING AS TOPIC AND MESSAGE inside is diffrent.
One more question Is making BOND in MARKET FORUM against rules of FORUM ? |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
819

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Posted - 2012.11.04 22:47:00 -
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Hi Kell,
If you have a question with a specific moderator action, please review the OP of this topic to see what you can do about it.
In general terms, regarding you question of Bonds:
You are able to post about them - you may not however, post rules that decided who can and who cannot post in your topic; it is a market discussion forum after all.
I hope this clarifies this situation for you. ISD Suvetar,-áCaptain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department We are hiring! |
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Kell Tarhun
Perkone Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.11.04 22:51:00 -
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I am not making any statment inside my topic that say i not allow posting. There is no single sentence in my topic that sayz directly i am "not allowing someone to do something".
I am informing posters their questions will become unanswered. If decidion based on locking my post were base on THIS FALSE ACCUSATION i ask on reopening my topic.
Once again I have not made any rules inside that "decide who can and who cannot post in my topic"
Read it carefully there is no statement inside that support your false claim
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