While I admit it is cool I can't think of any use for the Micro Jump Drive as described here as opposed to afterburners or microwarpdrive. Someone give me a scenario.

Sniping ships. Somebody is closing in on your tornado? Click the button and start shooting again.

I can't wait for you guys to see all of our new stuff:3

I can't wait for testing it out and put bounties on ppl. And claim some for myself.

While I admit it is cool I can't think of any use for the Micro Jump Drive as described here as opposed to afterburners or microwarpdrive. Someone give me a scenario.

Reading tweetfleet I suddenly realized a blasterthron suddenly jumping to you from 100km away could be a really nasty suprise.
Very situational but there are uses.

Are you jumped 100km into a random direction or are you jumped into the direction your ship is currently facing?

Are you jumped 100km into a random direction or are you jumped into the direction your ship is currently facing?

It will jump to the direction you are facing. Right now there is an issue if you are stationary (at 0) then it will not jump you.
So align to an object, and activate the module.

out of interest. Will CCP filter those poker adds from the bounty list? Would be nice to have a top ten of people which actually undock.

Will salvage drones also loot ? Or only salvage ?

The list that exists on TQ will vanish (it was in our dev blog).

Will salvage drones also loot ? Or only salvage ?

Some interesting changes - slightly sad about the micro-jump drive being quite so limited.

Looking forward to the salvage drones. Also interested to know if they would loot. (logically, I'd expect this to be a Tech 2 drone feature - BUT I DIDN'T SAY THAT DON'T DO THAT). :P

Yay reactive hardener change - might look into using it.

Looking forward to bounty hunting and the upcoming kill rights changes.

Yes the drone loots for you. It salvages, once a wreck is salvaged it returns to you with it.
As CCP Tuxford says, "Go forth and salvage!" everytime he uses the drones.

While I admit it is cool I can't think of any use for the Micro Jump Drive as described here as opposed to afterburners or microwarpdrive. Someone give me a scenario.

Wait. Do you mean it brings back the salvaged items, or it loots the wreck (potentially flagging you as a thief)?

Just the salvage my friend :P

Sniping ships. Somebody is closing in on your tornado? Click the button and start shooting again.

Yeah, too bad the module is battleship only, eh?

That being said, you can use the tactical overlay to see where you would go, and we have thought to maybe show the predicted location of the jump in the overlay.

The direction is straight forward from your ship. Once you activate the module, you are locked. You cannot activate any modules, cancel the micro jump, or change your ship velocity or direction.

That being said, you can use the tactical overlay to see where you would go, and we have thought to maybe show the predicted location of the jump in the overlay.

So, I tested the hell out of that MJD - it's great but a tiny bit OP in the "getting away" department. Even with a focused point from a broadsword on me, I Was able to use it and get away. HRm.

New "Inventory" category.

PROS:
I can finally get to shipps / hangar / cargo with ease


CONS: once I open it, where is the navigation tree?

So, I tested the hell out of that MJD - it's great but a tiny bit OP in the "getting away" department. Even with a focused point from a broadsword on me, I Was able to use it and get away. HRm.

will there be a timer for MJD, that i can see when i can use it again??

No, but that is a really excellent idea and we should just do it.

Sorry for seeming blunt, but isn't that what we are paying you to do? (come up with the good ideas, as opposed to some of the bad ones so far discovered in this patch)

The first version of this module used the normal warping mechanics where we got stuff like warp scrambling for free. We decided that that implementation wasn't acceptable so we decided on an actual jump. The version you have on Duality is the most simple version of that functionality with no restrictions checked in so that graphics could start working on the effect (and holy **** did they do a good job).

Short story, MJD has no activation restrictions yet.

Blah blah blah.

But out of curiosity, if we're getting timers for the MJD can we also get the same applied to other modules with huge-ass reactivation delays such as cloaks, and bomb launchers.

Still waiting to hear if you do get scrammed after you activate MJD if you then become absolutely stuck since you said there is no doing anything after clicking it.

I hope that drones eventually move to be a 'module' as the current drone window is very, very hard to work with.

Reading tweetfleet I suddenly realized a blasterthron suddenly jumping to you from 100km away could be a really nasty suprise.
Very situational but there are uses.

-Then I figured that the only way to place a bounty to a character trough the bounty office was to click the "+" sing next to the name of the players, corps or alliance. Also the other way to place a bounty to a player is by right clicking the player and clicking show info and clicking again the "+", to add the bounty.

How does/will the MJD interact with bubbles?

I assume if you are in a bubble, your MJD is inhibited, but what about MJD'ing into or through a bubble...

MJD 0 km's ---> Bubble @ 60 kms ---> 100 km jump to point...

Do you stop at the bubble or traverse through it?

P.S.... why is this a BS mod only? If you are in a fleet, you essentially leave your logi's behind when using this.... which is very problematic for most fleet warfare situations..

I am trying to understand the intent of the bounty system in the latest patch as i have been a member of a number of mercenary corporations and alliances and enjoy the play style.

My question is, if bounty hunting is to become a new game play option, how exactly does one go about it outside of wardecs?

From what I currently see the area to hunt targets will be in highsec, lowsec, and NPC Null as before; with both high and low requiring a wardec as the mechanism to enable the ability to collect bounties without consequence. This could focus mercenary groups to be more like mercenaries; should be fun.

My current understanding of the new kill rights system says it has nothing to do with bounty hunting since;

1. The player with rights again'st him may have no bounty.
2. You can't hunt public kill rights as you only find them through chance encounter on grid.
3. Most people with kill rights will be beyond -5.0, live in lowsec, and can be killed anyway.

What other avenues for bounty hunting are there going to be that i may have missed?

Out of curiosity, is the MJD stopped by scrams and long points, or just scrams? And do bubbles have any effect on it?

The current version on Duality is not affected by any warp canceling effects, but there is another version on the way that is affected by scramblers (will work similar to MWD). This means for instance that existing bubbles and interdictors won-¦t affect MJD as things stand (nor will disruptors ofc).

The current version on Duality is not affected by any warp canceling effects, but there is another version on the way that is affected by scramblers (will work similar to MWD). This means for instance that existing bubbles and interdictors won-¦t affect MJD as things stand (nor will disruptors ofc).

first concern is that this will make it far to easy to run with a BS.

1) align to a safespot
2) activate MJD
3) warp right after you jump


i made the suggestion to totally invert the penalties. Instead of adding the cooldown to the MJD, add it to the warpdrive. This will allow to catch BS after they jump but make it more fun at the same time since you could use the MJD multiple times in a row. (cap usage should be increased)

i like this idea i feel it keeps it mostly fair i still think 12 seconds for the ramp up is heavy (maybe we could get a skill to lower this)

you dont need to align but you have 12 seconds to wait before you can actually jump. if a scraming frig cant get on the bs in 12 seconds that pilot is doing it wrong and needs to l2p

Hunt in high and low sec and accept the consequences.
Look for those rare people with buyable killrights and a bounty, activate the killright, go for it.

But basically, you got it.

Is CCP considering implementing navy cap booster 50's and 25's for the Small and Medium Ancillary Shield Boosters? If not, wouldn't it be fair to increase the capacity for those two shield boosters so they could then fit the same amount of regular cap boosters as the intended navy ones (since there are no navy cap boosters in these sizes as of yet). Thank you.

With regards to the new bounty system I have the impression that someone could be perma-bountied if people continuously add to the bounty pool. Is this true?

I have a question about the bounty system: If there is a bounty on a corporation or alliance, is that bounty divided witht the numbers of members they have and does that also include inactives, trial accounts and alt chars on the same account?

Double post

The current version on Duality is not affected by any warp canceling effects, but there is another version on the way that is affected by scramblers (will work similar to MWD). This means for instance that existing bubbles and interdictors won-¦t affect MJD as things stand (nor will disruptors ofc).

As far as I know then if you get scrammed after you activate it, or more to the point that you are scrammed when you actually attempt the jump then you are **** out of luck.

Bah, more junk feedback.

Does "**** out of luck" mean you don't jump and the module deactivates, or does it mean, as the poster asked, that you're locked out of doing anything forever? Or are you locked out only until the 12 second delay finishes?

It sounds like you guys have people wiling to test this stuff, but you didn't actually include any of the functionality to test yet.

I guess I misunderstood the question a bit let me try to explain as best I can.

1. You activate the module. If you fail any of the checks, like if you are scrambled, then the module fails to activate. You can try to activate it again immediately (although unless you get rid of whatever is blocking the activation you-¦re gonna get the same results.
2. If successful you go into this spool up phase where you can-¦t do anything (well any movement really) until it tries the jump
3. If the module succeeds activating it spools up for some seconds and then attempts the jump. If it fails there you can still move freely but since the module successfully activated it is still subject to the module reactivation delay and you can-¦t activate it for some time (think it-¦s 5 minutes or something).

We're not adding these for winter, but might very well add them later, even in a point release of Retribution (no promise though )

The current version on Duality is not affected by any warp canceling effects, but there is another version on the way that is affected by scramblers (will work similar to MWD). This means for instance that existing bubbles and interdictors won-¦t affect MJD as things stand (nor will disruptors ofc).

I do wonder, is there any limit on the number of people you can place bounties on? I can see some people deciding to slap a "wanted" message on every single person they come across for kicks

Hello, I have a question about the new bounty system. The character bounty is easy. But I understand the Copr or Ally-bounty as variable. An example: 100 million bounty to a Corp with 100 members. For the first kill you get 1 million, is 100 million - 1 million = 99 million. For the second you get only 990000 ISK. If I understand correctly, after 50 kills only 40 million will be paid out. Because I could not test it on the Buckingham, I would be interested if I am correct. As a result, I also see an existing bounty forever on the Corp or Ally, that you will never get rid of.

I would suggest to change these mechanics so that the time of payment of bounty to all the amount of the Corporation or Ally is divided and is loaded. This also has the advantage that new members do not automatically gotten a bounty and the amount will not be stretched to infinity.

Absolutely LOVE the new bounty system.

Just the salvage my friend :P

you should try to get on top of the bounty hunter's list!!

Payout comes from both the ship and the pod. If the target is in Highsec, they may have a killright on them. If someone has put that killright up for sale you can activate it and then attack them without concord intervention.

Large Sleeper Wrecks have a -20 modifier to salvage chance - meaning the drones are useless for the better Sleeper sites. Has this been considered?

The drones are not intended to be as efficient as the modules. They have their own set of perks however. Two of which are automation and range.

shouldn't the engage shortcut (F) be mapped to salvage for salvage drones?

as i tested it the log said "drones engaging target" but they all stayed in idle mode. Right click salvage worked

Engage is a hostile act, salvage is separate from this. You can choose to tell them what to salvage, or let them salvage the field automatically.

Engage is a hostile act, salvage is separate from this. You can choose to tell them what to salvage, or let them salvage the field automatically.

Engage is a hostile act, salvage is separate from this. You can choose to tell them what to salvage, or let them salvage the field automatically.

Is the MJD coming out on Dec. 4th or not? I didn't see it on the test server, wanted to mess around with it.

Hold on a sec.... even if the player hasn't commited any criminal act

To answer some of my own questions and provide feedback:

Cycle time is 10 seconds, same as Salvager modules.

They do potentially get aggroed by NPCs. I ran a couple of missions, and the only two frigate-sized targets I found did switch to and start popping the salvage drones. Any chance of changing this? They have precisely zero combat benefit, so it's sort of odd that the AI that's supposed to be a bit smarter would pay any attention to them at all.

They all seem to target the same wreck at the same time. Any chance this can be changed so they spread themselves out more? Seems quite inefficient.

Other than that, I love them with the Vargur. I can fit three tractors, pull the wrecks in, and the drones deal with the salvaging about as fast as I can kill things and pull them in (and I'm only at skill level 3).

One issue I ran into, though, and I'm not sure if this is a bug or user error. After finishing my last mission, I had four wrecks sitting near me. I gave the drones the salvage order, and they picked one wreck, salvaged it, and then went idle again. I had to keep issuing the salvage order, and they continued to salvage one wreck, return, and go idle. Earlier, they were merrily going from one wreck to the next without extra orders, so I'm not sure what the difference was.

Yes; doing so does not give you kill rights to that player, though.

You will have had Focus Fire enabled Zor'katar. They act the same way as drones do with that enabled. Turn it off and they will go their separate ways. However, in this case it is far more efficient to let them focus fire as they do not have the best chance of salvaging by themselves.

As for the bug you mentioned, I would need to have known the status of the wrecks. I will look further into that myself.

I couldn't care less about any kill rights! I'm a PvE player and I don't want a bullseye painted on my back just because i salvaged someone elses wreck or snatched the loot under the nose of some slower player in DED complex.
Screw that!
I thought the winter expansion will be called Retribution and not Retaliation?!

So... you want to engage in activities hostile to other players -- yes, that's PvP, even if it isn't directly shooting someone else -- and you don't want those players to have any formal ability to retaliate?

I couldn't care less about any kill rights! I'm a PvE player and I don't want a bullseye painted on my back just because i salvaged someone elses wreck or snatched the loot under the nose of some slower player in DED complex.
Screw that!
I thought the winter expansion will be called Retribution and not Retaliation?!

It would appear that the new way of saying "Hello" in eve to players is to slap bounties on them.

So far, a player will add a bounty to you if:

* You mention the bounty system.
* You comment on the fact that you've just being given a bounty for mentioning the bounty system
* You tell people to stop giving you bounties.
* You stay quite for too long after having told people to stop giving you bounties.
... and so on.

I don't mind the system, but before the novelty wears off - if at all - the "Wanted" red sign will basically be on EVERYONE character, and then people who notice you don't have a bounty will just slap 100k on you to get you to conform.