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teroarea
ROMANIA Renegades
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:23:00 -
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From the beginning I would like to bring to your attention the fact that I have been playing EVE online for a long time and I could have never believed that I will come across such an issue...Let's see which was the trail of the events and what was the answer of the organising committee members. Romania Renegades is itself a corporation which will be celebrating, on February, 10 years of activity inside eve-online and which during the peak times has about 200 registered and active players About 3 weeks ago, this corporation entered the militia, applying to 'happy endings ' alliance, where we hoped we will have fun, but happy endings alliance starts a war against another alliance and corporation which is part of the same faction or the faction allied by militia and in the meantime they have persuaded us , the renegades that the time has come to leave this alliance because of the war that was about to take place within 24 hours. Once we have left the happy endings alliance we were aweare that the followoing 24 hours were critical and that we could not apply to another alliance because we were still at war , even though we left the alliance which has started this war. And now... the big surprise... a corportation part to this war has turned it into mutual and from their point of view this war could never end. This problem should not be a major one as long as that corporation is active , but this corporation (emperor throne guards) has only 10 members and they are completely inactive (probably a corporations of alts) and this situation makes the contact basically impossible in order to get to a mutual agreement! Although this war has not been started directly by the Romania Renegades corporation it seems that it will continue because of a fault of the organising committee of this game. Why their fault? it s very simple... it is just not fair that this war keep existing , even though we have left the alliance , because we did not agree with this war and after all we are in an endless war. I was amazed because of GM's lack of respect, who normaly should try to answer quickly and find a solution to this matter. What do you think that was their answer? ..... "we can't help you in this problem, so the only thing you can do is to disband the corporation Romania Renegades ant try to recreate it when possible" ... Shame!... Shame on you!.... How is it possible to distroy the whole history for so many players and the history of one of the oldest corporation just because nobody at CCP can fix a bug created by game mechanics itself.? .....how come an entire corporation of players which pays this game every month to CCP, to not have the posibility to join an alliance? Is it Because another corporation with inactive players managed to speculate this bug and they keep us with this endless open war, without any solution to close it? How is it posible that the whole CCP's honor to stop with one reply from one GM which says that " we can't do anything" ? Who from CCP can answer to this questions? and give us an honorable and fair solution? |
Tali Ambraelle
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:25:00 -
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Hello wall. inb4 wat |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
10112
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:25:00 -
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Ow. Here, have a donation. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Rordan D'Kherr
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:26:00 -
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tl;dr? |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:26:00 -
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I read that whole thing, and I sympathize. |
ctx2007
Wychwood and Wells Beer needs you
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:27:00 -
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Arggghhhhhhhh my eyes!!! |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction
324
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:27:00 -
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man up and make them drop the war
Unless you want to prove that you and you corporation are weak enough to let one war stop you. |
I Love Lesbians
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:30:00 -
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can someone give a tl;dr version? not gonna stare at that wall |
Athena Themis
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
62
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:31:00 -
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Seriously cannot read that. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy Caldari State
199
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:32:00 -
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1. "Masive" 2. Grammar
Fail better.
Edit: do people seriously expect to be taken seriously with that kind of writing??? |
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Pingu Arareb
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:33:00 -
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I read it all, I feel bad for you, I feel CCP will surely rectify the issue, it's just a question of when. |
Proteus Maximus
Rusty Knickers Malicious Intent Gentleman's Club
115
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:35:00 -
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MY EYES! If Goons were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
273
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:37:00 -
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Rordan D'Kherr wrote:tl;dr?
TL;DR
OMG I AM TRAPPED IN A PERMANENT WAR WITH A TOTALLY INACTIVE CORP WHICH MEANS, DESPITE THEM ALL BEING INACTIVE, I HAVE TO DISBAND MY CORP THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 10 YEARS AND IT IS CCP'S FAULT.
PS I CAN'T USE MY ENTER KEY
I hope that helps. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
ISquishWorms
167
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:38:00 -
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I have to admit I only skimmed over the wall of text but what I can deduce is that you are upset about a long war? Have you tried fighting back? Dear Santa, all I would like for-áChristmas 2013-áare some snowballs and something to fire them from please, thank you. |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
453
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:38:00 -
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Just 2 questions why did you try and leave the alliance instead of just riding it out. What was the point of entering the alliance to begin with.
Second if you are under a permanent war dec and nobody is active in the corp then why does it matter if you are at war or not.
I am a little confused at what you want CCP to do. Oh and last what kind of time frame are we talking here. Have you been at war for several months now or something ?
EVERYBODY KNOWS |
Dersen Lowery
Knavery Inc. StructureDamage
144
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:39:00 -
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I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that someone in an alliance with "Romanian" in the name is not a native English speaker.
The tl;dr is: His corp, which is as old as EVE, was persuaded to join an alliance. That alliance decc'd a small, mostly inactive alt corp, which made it mutual. His corp wants to leave this alliance, but can't, because the alliance is in a mutual wardec.
CCP's solution? Disband the corp, and reform. OP understandably does not want to disband a corp with a 10 year history.
So, what should he do? |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:39:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Rordan D'Kherr wrote:tl;dr? TL;DR OMG I AM TRAPPED IN A PERMANENT WAR WITH A TOTALLY INACTIVE CORP WHICH MEANS, DESPITE THEM ALL BEING INACTIVE, I HAVE TO DISBAND MY CORP THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 10 YEARS AND IT IS CCP'S FAULT. PS I CAN'T USE MY ENTER KEY I hope that helps.
Was it not something about not being able to join new alliance because of game mechanics? I can't bother reading it twice. |
Xiode
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:40:00 -
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That's... massive. |
Jim Era
5815
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:42:00 -
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wait so, OP and his corp have been in EVE since the beginning, they are still losing to 10 inactive players?
pwnd |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
338
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:43:00 -
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If they are inactive how did they set the war mutual? Makes no sense bro. Anyway just pay them some of your isk mountain through a third party to drop the war, shouldn't be a problem for a rich man like yourself.
Btw its not a bug, ccp are deliberately trolling and seems to be working. |
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Kitty Bear
Disturbed Friends Of Diazepam Disturbed Acquaintance
109
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:44:00 -
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Jitapricechecker2 where have you been
we missed you so much. |
Sivinn Da'Lawa
The Expatriot League
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:48:00 -
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To the OP:
First, learn to space out walls of text, whether it is a forum post or a petition, formatting it so people can read it will make them more receptive.
Second, by what i could get out of your post you filed a petition and they said they could not do anything, escalate that petition to a Senior GM.
For everybody else the TL;DR appear to be:
Join Alliance, they war dec somebody, its mutual, OP's corp leaves, war stuck as mutual can't end ever, petition is met with "we can't do anything", and OP comes to forum with poorly formatted post.
The longer summary appear to be:
The OP's corporation joined an alliance that was participating in faction warfare, that alliance declared war on another alliance and the OP's corp left the alliance because that was not what they were looking for as an activity.
At this point the OP's corp expected to have a war of 24 hours on them after having left the alliance. At which point apparently the Alliance/Corporation that the OP's former Alliance had declared war on made the war mutual.
It as this point that the OP appears to be saying that there is no way for his Corporation to end this war that they did not start and chose not to be part of, as well as apparently the war being mutual and therefore at no cost to the opposing group.
They then may have filed a petition, at which CCP replied they could do nothing to help them and suggested that they disband their Corporation of nearly 10 years and remake it at a later date. To which the OP calls into question the honor of CCP. |
teroarea
ROMANIA Renegades
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:48:00 -
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Simetraz wrote:Just 2 questions why did you try and leave the alliance instead of just riding it out. What was the point of entering the alliance to begin with.
Second if you are under a permanent war dec and nobody is active in the corp then why does it matter if you are at war or not.
I am a little confused at what you want CCP to do. Oh and last what kind of time frame are we talking here. Have you been at war for several months now or something ?
Because of this everlasting war the Romania Renegades corporation cannot join any allaince ......this is the game mechanics .... we cannot apply to any alliance while in war status ...in our case the happy endings alliance has began this war |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
301
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:51:00 -
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The only MASSIVE fail...is that OP cannot SPELL. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3868
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:51:00 -
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how did an inactive corporation make your war mutual
seems you're lying here, buddy |
svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:51:00 -
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teroarea wrote:Simetraz wrote:Just 2 questions why did you try and leave the alliance instead of just riding it out. What was the point of entering the alliance to begin with.
Second if you are under a permanent war dec and nobody is active in the corp then why does it matter if you are at war or not.
I am a little confused at what you want CCP to do. Oh and last what kind of time frame are we talking here. Have you been at war for several months now or something ?
Because of this everlasting war the Romania Renegades corporation cannot join any allaince ......this is the game mechanics .... we cannot apply to any alliance while in war status ...in our case the happy endings alliance has began this war
that is what I thought you said and that is ****** up and you have my sympathy if this is the case. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
339
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:52:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:how did an inactive corporation make your war mutual
seems you're lying here, buddy
They aren't inactive, they just haven't sent the ransom demand yet.
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svenska flicka
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
59
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:54:00 -
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Doddy wrote:Weaselior wrote:how did an inactive corporation make your war mutual
seems you're lying here, buddy They aren't inactive, they just haven't sent the ransom demand yet.
If no ransom it must be a predator. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
340
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:55:00 -
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svenska flicka wrote:Doddy wrote:Weaselior wrote:how did an inactive corporation make your war mutual
seems you're lying here, buddy They aren't inactive, they just haven't sent the ransom demand yet. If no ransom it must be a predator.
I would suggest they make it big, terrorea has plenty cash and he is attached to his corp name. |
teroarea
ROMANIA Renegades
4
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Posted - 2012.10.25 17:56:00 -
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Doddy wrote:If they are inactive how did they set the war mutual? Makes no sense bro. Anyway just pay them some of your isk mountain through a third party to drop the war, shouldn't be a problem for a rich man like yourself.
Btw its not a bug, ccp are deliberately trolling and seems to be working.
maybe this is just a speculation they made in such a way to block certain corps or alliance with these warss in the mutual ,,way`` |
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