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Nemesis Factor
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:03:00 -
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wow |

Lucio Varo
Aklo Srl
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:05:00 -
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just words for now. I hope actions will follow |

Kimsemus
Muppet Factory Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:06:00 -
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After reading the blog, I only have this to say:
Very well, Hellmar, old friend. You have my bow. |

Jamaican Herbsman
I Love You Mary Jane
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:08:00 -
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Thank you Hilmar! You've restored some of my faith in EVE and in CCP. Now, deliver and blow our minds once again |

Jamaican Herbsman
I Love You Mary Jane
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:08:00 -
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Kimsemus wrote:After reading the blog, I only have this to say:
Very well, Hellmar, old friend. You have my bow.
And my axe!!!1!
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mkint
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:12:00 -
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I think I just figured out when we will really know if there has been a change. It's not the "we're losing subs like crazy, damage control it!" moments. It's not the "we're so sorry, please don't unsub" moments.
We really won't know if there has been a change until a brand new feature roles out, and CCP can successfully listen to the players' words of caution while still ignoring the "I want a pony, and a BB gun" crowd (even though ponies and bb guns totally rock.) There will be lots of opportunities for this in the balancing and iteration stuff listed in Zulu's blog, but it's in new features where CCP has consistently failed. |

Blake Sheffield
Dark Shadow Industries Associated Deviants
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:15:00 -
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A+++++ would read again |

Jita Alt666
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:15:00 -
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Hellmer = Hilmar?
This blog sounds nice. It should have been written and delivered on June 30th. However, CCP appear to have realised they need to keep delivering product we want not product they want to deliver. Lots of management speak with a suitable level of contriteness. This blog helps appease the burning rage.
Zulu's blog makes me happy. |

digi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:17:00 -
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Speaking as a 2003 player, I find Hilmar's apology to be long overdue and quite acceptable. Well written and seemingly sincere. I look forward to the future efforts.
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Rev Blackblade
Dark Spear Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:17:00 -
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Apology Accepted, I never doubted you for a second
I eagerly await a re-dedication to the the only game worthy of this level of trial to its life and longevity.
Any other game would have crumbled under the pressure. It is a testimony to the power of EVE when even after all we have been through together, you offer your hand , and we take it unquestioningly.
Welcome back, you were missed.
-Rev |
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Commander Logar
C.O.T
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:21:00 -
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This is the blog we were waiting for.
This blog should be written long a go to relief the community.
Anyway its not too late. Looks like my friends and me getting back to game again.
I'd like to quote this from Hilmar.
" Now we need time to add the content that will bring more meaning to the gameplayGÇöagain, without disrupting the space combat simulator that many of you are, or at least were, very much in love withGÇöand without delaying crucial improvements that this core experience desperately needs. " |

PMolkenthin
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:22:00 -
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Can't wait to get new PVP ships. |

Norian Lonark
Black Thorne Corporation Black Thorne Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:23:00 -
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Thank you!
This really goes help restore faith that was wavering. I really hope this new focus and honesty continues and I am sure that if it does your vision will be realised and any damage that has been done can be repaired.
Looking forward to seeing the future developments.
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orlando carlo
EdgeGamers Situation: Normal
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:25:00 -
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well said now lets see if we can't get this done together. |

Bleys Firedance
Alien Pancake Bonanza
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:25:00 -
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receiving incoming transmission: This is the first boarding call for Flight CCP New Direction requesting all New Eden capsuleers who would like to experience this to board at will for the long journey ahead.
+1 from me for these blogs they are certainly a step in the direction I'm interested in seeing EVE take. Now all that's left is for implementation of these ideas and reflections to take place so I can once again get back to one of my favourite activities of blowing crap up.
P.S. I do pray though that our pilot Captain Hilmar doesn't get drunk and pass out on the flight controls again causing this ship to spiral out of control in an unknown direction. |

Nisd
Nasgul Collective Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:26:00 -
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<3 |

Zeke Megadeth
Havoc Violence and Chaos BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:28:00 -
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Finally |

Jagga Spikes
Spikes Chop Shop
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:28:00 -
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lets get this show rolling, shall we? |
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CCP Guard
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:29:00 -
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Jamaican Herbsman wrote:Kimsemus wrote:After reading the blog, I only have this to say:
Very well, Hellmar, old friend. You have my bow. And my axe!!!1!
And my keyboard!!
 CCP Guard | EVE Community Developer |
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Needa3
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:30:00 -
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/me applauds quietly Nice blog Hillmar, i think one that needed to be there a while ago. It takes courage to admit mistakes, no denying that. Nevertheless it is too little and way too late IMO. It took more than a few months coming to this conclusion? Yet the path taken with the upcoming expansion is still not enough to get your veteran players back. IGÇÖm afraid you veteran base has still been left out. You know, those players and corporations that used to make Eve the sandbox it used to be. The sandbox that used to draw corporations like Burn Eden towards Eve day in and day out. That same sandbox that created a lot of superb players and corporations. It was a never-ending circle where CCP pushed us to the end of our gaming abilities to come up with tactics an innovative game play, in return CCP came up with better servers, better game play. A game driven by players and game designers alike. Where designers were able to play the game to know what was needed and what was needed to be fixed or implemented. Everything collapsed as soon as the number of subscriptions started to guide the game evolution. CCP wanted 2 months old characters to get into 0.0 ASAP, faced with 6 year old veteran characters the newbies got their arses handed. Their cries and their wines were all that mattered, nerfing the crap out of modules and ships became the solution to all the tears. Up till now I still wonder way. Webs countered nano, nano countered jams and damps, jams countered webs, damps countered snipers, snipers countered tackle and/ or dps. Your game was perfect. It was a sandbox we only could dream of. What would the enemy bring and what can we do about it? I remember the first engagement where a carrier was put into fight. Nowadays the game has become predictable: drake and hurricane blobs with their logi support or maelstrom/ abaddon blobs and their logis supported by the super cap blobs depending on the time of the day. Your sandbox turned into a mud pool where movement is limited and basically turned into everything except what you want the game to be. This post will probably get burnt into the ground by the Goons, their alts and the similar lemmings that hide behind the safety of their PC and their internet connection. Ironically they are the same people that buy you drinks and food on the fan fest nonstop once they know who you are. Your blog and the blog about the winter expansion might give you some lemmings back, however the veterans that helped you build Eve will stay away. As veterans we miss the raw, uncontrolled attitude that EVE had. The steep learning curve assured a certain level of players (both in game and out game). Frankly, every patch after Red Moon Rising has pushed this game more in the direction of Star Wars Galaxies. (and we know what happened there, right)?. New players are not meant to be up the same level as veterans. They are a welcome addition to the game , but they need time to grow as we once used to. The new patch is not going to change anything about that, more nerfs and so called GÇ£fixesGÇ¥ are throwing this game out of balance more and more. I donGÇÖt care if you or one of your Dev actually read this and I have even less hopes of anyone at CCP seeing the truth in it. (I donGÇÖt care at all of the GÇ£funGÇ¥ post with predictable content that will certainly follow from a certain type of players and alliances) Admitting you were mistaken is one thing, showing you have the courage to actually really fix the game is something really different. Must admit, your marketing department plays the masses well judging by the reactions of awesomeness people make. I canGÇÖt believe people how easily people can be keep happy with words only. Too bad I resubbed with this character just before the last patch, IGÇÖm stuck here for at least another 9 months. Lucky for me my other 7 accounts were GTC paid and will not go active anytime soon, unless you really fix the game.
As stated in the beginning, it is too little too late. The good thing is we have World of Tanks and Star Wars the Old Republic looks good.
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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:30:00 -
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I believe this was a good step in the right direction.
We'll see what happens. |

dhunpael
Viperfleet Inc. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:32:00 -
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thumbs up ^^ |

Smoking Blunts
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:33:00 -
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thats a lot of words to ask people to stop unsubbing and resub there alt accounts isnt it? CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
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Akasha Dawn Worldbreaker
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:33:00 -
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If infact some of these things do come to pass. I will come back to EVE. I will keep a close eye on the forums in the months to come. He did say new ships right? |

Den Sethos
The Scope Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:36:00 -
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Thank you for listening to people around you It takes some real guts to do it.
Congratulations on what I hope will be a successful return to essentials |

Sturmwolke
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:39:00 -
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Thank you, interesting letter.
It was a cascade of mistakes after mistakes that brought down EVE to level it is now. For long time regular players (that includes myself), it wasn't hard to see the entire EVE environment trending down from its heydays. You can use numbers and stats to confirm the trend, but always, the early warning signs can be picked up from the amount of anti-CCP noise in the forums .... instead of game mechanic/gameplay noises which used to litter the forums. The frequency of chatter in the NPC corp channels and Newbie forum section is another indirect indicator. Your community managers play an important role into bringing these indirect signs to your attention - which is your first line of defence. So, if that was ignored, it was at your peril.
Let me point you to this article to get my point accross - http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2009/04/swinefluchatter/
Now from a personal viewpoint, the current CCP image (as a company) portrays incompetence and mismanagement - with very strong tendencies to repeat its mistakes. This was different from let's say circa 2007, where the general perception was positive. Granted I was new to EVE back then. The gradual erosion in trust, once destroyed, will take 10x as long to rebuild ... if ever. Word of mouth matters. Negative publicty through internet chatter matters very much. My question : Why o why in god's name did you let the slide continue? Are ye blind?
To end, as they say, successful businesses are built from several bankruptcies. It takes a strong person to learn from their mistakes to re-build into something successful. I'd personally prefer someone who has made mistakes, but also demonstrated they have learned from them - over anyone who hasn't made a mistake. Only time will tell. The community will observing these so called changes.
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JTK Fotheringham
Dashavatara
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:39:00 -
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Quote:Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what [people] do and less of what they say.

Right with you there, bro.
/JTK |

Gouzu Kho
Kho Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:40:00 -
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in my experience its very rare for someone in leadership to look inside themselves like this and admit they made mistakes.
o7 respect for this blog.
I find it interesting, and a bit sad, that it where strong and positive emotions and spirit that brought these problems with them.
I've seen this kind of thing before: personally and on a bigger scale. Strong emotions, both positive and negative, can have dire consequences when not tempered by wisdom. I find it annoying how easily my emotions can drag me down a certain path, and no matter how much I try to guard against this, it seems to be a strong part of human nature.
One can see why the Jove tried to control their emotions through genetics....
eh, sorry for these silly philosophical waxings, but a great blog.
Lets see what the future holds. |

Nendail Smith
Space Tech Innovations S.T.C.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:42:00 -
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Innominate wrote:After the last several months of combative, dismissive, and downright vague dev blogs, this is a breath of fresh air.
My hope for the future of the game has been restored.
I agree. I have many accounts and I have been tempted to dump them all the last few months. This letter has re-kindled a small amount of hope in me when it comes to CCP.
CCP Hellmar wrote: "The greatest lesson for me is the realization that EVE belongs to you, and we at CCP are just the hosts of your experience."
If you hold this mindset regardless of the difficulty of that task you will un-doubtedly be on the way to being one of the best companies (not just games) in the world. Quality customer service is something that has long been undervalued in our worlds society lately.
Remember, you want to provide a great product, but above that, you want that product to be sellable. You can not sell coal to a person who is looking to buy finished diamonds. I hope you take seriously your words, and listen to the pulse of your user base moving forward.
Writing that letter was, I'm sure, very humbling. As daily user of your product I greatly appreciate your candor and anxiously await the observation of your actions. |

Ishtanchuk Fazmarai
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Posted - 2011.10.05 20:45:00 -
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On one hand, "Wow, they will do what some players have been asking for years"
On the other hand, they will not do anything for me, not even cut down those bloody ludicrous NEx prices. No new Solo PvE content. No Solo/Casual endgame content. Nothing. Do the same that was doable 3 years ago (well, minus Lvl5, plus the five epic arcs).
I guess that here I am in the wrong side of "you can't please everybody", but nonetheless it's my 340 euros a year, some 800 Gé¼ since i began playing EVE, and fixing the troubles of nullsec bitchers it's not worth that kind of money. I should had never left X3: Reunion |
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