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Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.09 04:58:00 -
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Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft.... |
EvEa Deva
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:00:00 -
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not all do, only the ones that suck |
Xython
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
106
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:03:00 -
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Because it's fun. |
Ifly Uwalk
Concentrated Evil
15
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:04:00 -
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That sleeper sell I inserted into your alliance? Their day is coming. Soon.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:04:00 -
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Alidar wrote:atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
I don't think you fully understand EVE. |
Brother ThantosXI
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:04:00 -
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Its just game mechanics, Ever pop a jump Freighter with 14B of cargo dropped. This game is great because there is risk. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
10
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:04:00 -
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Maybe EVE isn't for you. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
139
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:08:00 -
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You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:10:00 -
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EvEa Deva wrote:not all do, only the ones that suck
so far they all seem to be people that are or have ever been in any corp with the name goon in it, and i'm sure there are more, and if my charachter had the isk and skills you would expect from his creation date then i'd teach these little squabbling brats a thing or 2, unfortunately i've been out of game for years due to real life financial trouble that has recently changed to allow me to re-enter the eve universe just to learn that it is now a den for closeted murderers, gang members and theives, and can't cut it as the real thing so they do it in the only way that can't get them in prison, ....online, this makes me sick, and disappointed in CCP for allowing it to get like this. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:13:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE
Corp Por Corp Por Corp Por |
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Brother ThantosXI
Perkone Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:14:00 -
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" i've been out of game for years due to real life financial trouble"
You could not come up with 15bucks a month for years, you sir are a failure. |
luZk
Jaegerkorpset
4
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:16:00 -
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EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:17:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE
actually I did, and at first there were plenty of safe areas, but that changed and i quit, but the eve experience can not be reproduced by any other game currently in existence and i really do not wish to give it up, but it would be nice to have the option to turn off my ability to be targeted by a pvp'er for either no reason, or as i have experienced lately the in game racial profiling, where goonswarm decided that all gallente space has to be protected by them from miners that aren't gallente who aren't willing or able to pay their members a fee of over 250million isk, i don't even make that much in a month |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:21:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE actually I did, and at first there were plenty of safe areas, but that changed and i quit, but the eve experience can not be reproduced by any other game currently in existence and i really do not wish to give it up, but the option to turn off my ability to be targeted by a pvp'er for either no reason, or as i have experienced lately the in game racial profiling, where goonswarm decided that all gallente space has to be protected by them from miners that aren't gallente who aren't willing or able to pay their members a fee of over 250million isk
EVE is no more ruthless than the real world, the only difference is that the sharks in EVE don't bother trying to be polite or sneaky. If you only just realized how a lot of people really think, then you sir need to open your eyes IRL. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
139
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:21:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE Corp Por Corp Por Corp Por
In Jux Sanct
Kal Vas Flam!
------- Only towns were safe areas Alidar, and then you couldnt do anything there. But the unforgiving environment was very fun. made dungeon diving much more exciting.
now as for goons. LOLOL you think paying their fees they would stop? hahaha they wont stop killing anyone there but there are more reasons to it than just protecting the belts from miners. |
Brother ThantosXI
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:22:00 -
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You are such a little cherry, move your ice harvesting near Jita, Goons wont go there, as every high sec merc outfit has a dec on them. You want to harvest in Tolle, youll just die. Its a big universe and you don't own it, but you could. |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
27
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:22:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
This is exactly why |
Madrigor
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:22:00 -
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Alidar wrote: actually I did, and at first there were plenty of safe areas, but that changed and i quit, but the eve experience can not be reproduced by any other game currently in existence and i really do not wish to give it up, but it would be nice to have the option to turn off my ability to be targeted by a pvp'er for either no reason, or as i have experienced lately the in game racial profiling, where goonswarm decided that all gallente space has to be protected by them from miners that aren't gallente who aren't willing or able to pay their members a fee of over 250million isk, i don't even make that much in a month
Did you try to steal that Blue Ice in Gallente? ...bad boy |
Psychophantic
70
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:22:00 -
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Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE
You mean the PvP mmorpg that started out as a pure non-con pvp game and then realised that people were leaving because of the little pvp leetoid griefers running around ganking everyone. So then they split the world into two facets, Trammel / Felucca in order to provide entertainment for everyone and fun was had by all. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:23:00 -
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luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems.
oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up |
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Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
41
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:23:00 -
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Gas thread, then gas OP too for good measure |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:24:00 -
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Maybe you should grow a brain and learn how to not make yourself such an easy target.
Announcing that you're an easy target on the forums is a good way to make your life more miserable in EVE, though.
Perhaps learning how to PVP and drive of people would help then. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:25:00 -
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Psychophantic wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE You mean the PvP mmorpg that started out as a pure non-con pvp game and then realised that people were leaving because of the little pvp leetoid griefers running around ganking everyone. So then they split the world into two facets, Trammel / Felucca in order to provide entertainment for everyone and fun was had by all.
after the split, UO died to a lot of players. you're just looking at it from your angle. EVE doesn't agree with your philosophy. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:25:00 -
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Madrigor wrote:Alidar wrote: actually I did, and at first there were plenty of safe areas, but that changed and i quit, but the eve experience can not be reproduced by any other game currently in existence and i really do not wish to give it up, but it would be nice to have the option to turn off my ability to be targeted by a pvp'er for either no reason, or as i have experienced lately the in game racial profiling, where goonswarm decided that all gallente space has to be protected by them from miners that aren't gallente who aren't willing or able to pay their members a fee of over 250million isk, i don't even make that much in a month
Did you try to steal that Blue Ice in Gallente? ...bad boy
a Cyber bully is still a cyberbully, they have names for people like you and none of them polite, and most get you in either prison or a padded cell |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:26:00 -
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Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up
so, do you want to be safe, or do you want to play the game? like I said, EVE operates on the same rules life does. You can sit safe at home all day or you can brave the real world, take risks, have adventures.
you will lose sometimes. just like in life. but if all you want to do is find a safe little corner and do one thing forever at no risk, then you're never going to go anywhere. |
Brother ThantosXI
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:27:00 -
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Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up
you know what, just post you address. Ill grab a plane fly to your house and uninstall the game. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:28:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Psychophantic wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE You mean the PvP mmorpg that started out as a pure non-con pvp game and then realised that people were leaving because of the little pvp leetoid griefers running around ganking everyone. So then they split the world into two facets, Trammel / Felucca in order to provide entertainment for everyone and fun was had by all. after the split, UO died to a lot of players. you're just looking at it from your angle. EVE doesn't agree with your philosophy.
actually UO died because of games like world of warcraft and others like it whom had graphics that made use of the tech at the time, uo's major flaw was that their graphics sucked even for the era it was created in |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:29:00 -
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Brother ThantosXI wrote:Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up you know what, just post you address. Ill grab a plane fly to your house and uninstall the game.
is that a threat BUBBA! |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:29:00 -
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Alidar wrote:
actually UO died because of games like world of warcraft and others like it whom had graphics that made use of the tech at the time, uo's major flaw was that their graphics sucked even for the era it was created in
...what?
UO is the single game that is most responsible fro the entire MMO genre. depending on how loose your definition is, either UO or text-based MUDs were the first MMOs. |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:29:00 -
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Now it seems to me the the OP doesn't know how to have fun on a game. |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
351
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:30:00 -
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Alidar wrote:a Cyber bully is still a cyberbully, they have names for people like you and none of them polite, and most get you in either prison or a padded cell Don't steal our blue ice and we won't blow up your ship. Deal?
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
rodyas
The Scope Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:30:00 -
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EVE is a single shard server, and its "suppose" to be a pvp server (shard) so you not pvping, ruins the server/shard for them. It like a battle to make the one shard/server either pvp or pve. You are just a victimized bystander to it all. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:31:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up so, do you want to be safe, or do you want to play the game? like I said, EVE operates on the same rules life does. You can sit safe at home all day or you can brave the real world, take risks, have adventures. you will lose sometimes. just like in life. but if all you want to do is find a safe little corner and do one thing forever at no risk, then you're never going to go anywhere.
yes but also in the real world if someone assaults or kills you they get life in prison or capital punishment! |
Psychophantic
70
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:31:00 -
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Akirei Scytale wrote:Psychophantic wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE You mean the PvP mmorpg that started out as a pure non-con pvp game and then realised that people were leaving because of the little pvp leetoid griefers running around ganking everyone. So then they split the world into two facets, Trammel / Felucca in order to provide entertainment for everyone and fun was had by all. after the split, UO died to a lot of players. you're just looking at it from your angle. EVE doesn't agree with your philosophy.
Obviously not, because everyone knows the majority of the population is out there in null / low doing the pvp thing and not in hi-sec semi-afk mining and running missions. CCP also hasn't realised this and didn't have a big whiteboard full of ideas to get these peace loving people out of hi-sec.
It doesn't matter though, the recent population boom and continued growth of eve will see plenty of people joining for pvp. That's why CCP isn't releasing CQ's and WiS and is focusing more on ship balancing, FW, and null because they know these are the areas that constitute most of their income.
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Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
27
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:32:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE actually I did, and at first there were plenty of safe areas, but that changed and i quit, but the eve experience can not be reproduced by any other game currently in existence and i really do not wish to give it up, but it would be nice to have the option to turn off my ability to be targeted by a pvp'er for either no reason, or as i have experienced lately the in game racial profiling, where goonswarm decided that all gallente space has to be protected by them from miners that aren't gallente who aren't willing or able to pay their members a fee of over 250million isk, i don't even make that much in a month
Bwahahaha
You sir.. really need to look at your options for making isk. There are literally dozens of ways to make this much isk in an hour, much less a month. Of course.. most of those ways would require you to actually compete with others instead of just mindless shooting roids.
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Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
27
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:32:00 -
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I got ganked |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:33:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Alidar wrote:a Cyber bully is still a cyberbully, they have names for people like you and none of them polite, and most get you in either prison or a padded cell Don't steal our blue ice and we won't blow up your ship. Deal?
it's not yours, and theres more than enough there, besides you idiots don't even try to mine it, you wait for us to do it then blow us up to collect what you didn't earn on your own |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
351
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:33:00 -
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If you make less than 250m isk a month mining then we're doing you a favor by blowing up your mining ships. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
ACE McFACE
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
17
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:34:00 -
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OP mines/rats/runs missions so they can buy a better ship for those activities and when they have the most efficient ship they just gain ISK and only buy ammo/mining crystals ZE GOGGLES, ZEY DO NOTHING! (Not wearing them so don't waste your time reading this sig) |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
27
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:34:00 -
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Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up
If you are completely unable to compete with others, then yes. |
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Pseudo Ucksth
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
3
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:34:00 -
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My twelve step program to not being a terrible carebear:
Step one: Make yourself a hard target. Step two: Keep your eyes open. Step twelve: Fight back.
Page 3 snypa |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:35:00 -
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Dradius Calvantia wrote:Alidar wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE actually I did, and at first there were plenty of safe areas, but that changed and i quit, but the eve experience can not be reproduced by any other game currently in existence and i really do not wish to give it up, but it would be nice to have the option to turn off my ability to be targeted by a pvp'er for either no reason, or as i have experienced lately the in game racial profiling, where goonswarm decided that all gallente space has to be protected by them from miners that aren't gallente who aren't willing or able to pay their members a fee of over 250million isk, i don't even make that much in a month Bwahahaha You sir.. really need to look at your options for making isk. There are literally dozens of ways to make this much isk in an hour, much less a month. Of course.. most of those ways would require you to actually compete with others instead of just mindless shooting roids.
mining is fun for me, the other ways in this game i don't find fun, i don't go around ruining your enjoyment do I? |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:35:00 -
[43] - Quote
Alidar wrote:
yes but also in the real world if someone assaults or kills you they get life in prison or capital punishment!
...if they get caught. EVE operates on precisely the same mechanics, hell, it even lets YOU be the judge, jury and executioner. |
Psychophantic
70
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:36:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:If you make less than 250m isk a month mining then we're doing you a favor by blowing up your mining ships.
A goony telling people how to enjoy themselves.
DURRR YOR PLAYIN DA GAEM RONG! |
Brother ThantosXI
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:36:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up so, do you want to be safe, or do you want to play the game? like I said, EVE operates on the same rules life does. You can sit safe at home all day or you can brave the real world, take risks, have adventures. you will lose sometimes. just like in life. but if all you want to do is find a safe little corner and do one thing forever at no risk, then you're never going to go anywhere. yes but also in the real world if someone assaults or kills you they get life in prison or capital punishment!
I would love to imprision toons in this game, where is this mechanic? I would litterly sit there ant watch until they self distruct in the pit I have in my Caldari apartment at 4-4 |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:37:00 -
[46] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Dradius Calvantia wrote:Alidar wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE actually I did, and at first there were plenty of safe areas, but that changed and i quit, but the eve experience can not be reproduced by any other game currently in existence and i really do not wish to give it up, but it would be nice to have the option to turn off my ability to be targeted by a pvp'er for either no reason, or as i have experienced lately the in game racial profiling, where goonswarm decided that all gallente space has to be protected by them from miners that aren't gallente who aren't willing or able to pay their members a fee of over 250million isk, i don't even make that much in a month Bwahahaha You sir.. really need to look at your options for making isk. There are literally dozens of ways to make this much isk in an hour, much less a month. Of course.. most of those ways would require you to actually compete with others instead of just mindless shooting roids. mining is fun for me, the other ways in this game i don't find fun, i don't go around ruining your enjoyment do I?
The fact that you enjoy mining ruins my enjoyment of the game. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
353
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:38:00 -
[47] - Quote
Alidar wrote:mining is fun for me Protecting the poor ice asteroids in Gallente space is fun for us.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Kaede Kimura
Epsilon Inc STORM.
3
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:39:00 -
[48] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft.... pffft...AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH Set pvp status? Your PvE server WoW guild called, they said they want their healer back. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:40:00 -
[49] - Quote
Pseudo Ucksth wrote:My twelve step program to not being a terrible carebear:
Step one: Make yourself a hard target. Step two: Keep your eyes open. Step twelve: Fight back.
Page 3 snypa
maybe i would fight back if current market prices didn't make even the best insurance not even give you a fifth of the isk needed to replace a ship better than an ibis, let alone the replacement of the overpriced modules |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
29
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:41:00 -
[50] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Pseudo Ucksth wrote:My twelve step program to not being a terrible carebear:
Step one: Make yourself a hard target. Step two: Keep your eyes open. Step twelve: Fight back.
Page 3 snypa maybe i would fight back if current market prices didn't make even the best insurance not even give you a fifth of the isk needed to replace a ship better than an ibis, let alone the replacement of the overpriced modules
t1 ships have fantastic insurance, and higher tech does not mean better. it means more specialized and higher resists. |
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Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:41:00 -
[51] - Quote
Because clearly, a Rifter is a staggering investment and to properly fit it?
Only the Alliance Lords of Nullsec Alliances could afford such a thing. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
353
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:42:00 -
[52] - Quote
Alidar wrote:maybe i would fight back if current market prices didn't make even the best insurance not even give you a fifth of the isk needed to replace a ship better than an ibis, let alone the replacement of the overpriced modules You should join an alliance like mine that provides reimbursements so that with insurance+reimbursement I'm actually making money losing ships.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
74
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:43:00 -
[53] - Quote
Alidar wrote:atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it Err. Go play another f*cking game. This isn't some Asian j@ckoff fantasy. HTFU son.
What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All |
Brother ThantosXI
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:44:00 -
[54] - Quote
Alidar needs to ninja gas harvest , Thats how I made my first 3B |
Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
27
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:44:00 -
[55] - Quote
Alidar wrote: maybe i would fight back if current market prices didn't make even the best insurance not even give you a fifth of the isk needed to replace a ship better than an ibis, let alone the replacement of the overpriced modules
Excuses, excuses. Those who are shooting at you are playing the game with the same mechanics as you are. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:44:00 -
[56] - Quote
Kaede Kimura wrote:Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft.... pffft...AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH Set pvp status? Your PvE server WoW guild called, they said they want their healer back.
ha ha wow sucks, there's no space ships, it's too cartoony, and the classes are all clones of every other game before it, i wouldn't be caught dead or alive as wow player, scumbag trolls like you are why they make games like that so you can actually look the part |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
139
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:46:00 -
[57] - Quote
I miss uo and their pvp.
Who also did huge battles at Britania bridge just tossing energy bolts back and forth? There is nothing wrong with pvp in this game. If you fly an expensive barge, put a tank on it. some invulns and a damage control II will keep most of teh weaker gankers away. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
364
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:47:00 -
[58] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP? I don't know. Why do non-PvPers act like terrorists to others who like PvP?
Quote:it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp? It's a PvP game. What's unfair, childish, rude and in reality criminally insane is that some people want to reap all the benefits and pay none of the costs and then have the audacity to bawl their guts out when others insist that they play by the rules. Not to mention wanting the power to influence others without being influenced themselves.
What you're asking for is essentially this: since there are chickens and produce in CS_Italy, you think it's unfair that other CS players keep shooting you in the face, when all you want to do is tend your farm. The insanity here is not on the part of the face-shooters, but on the person who chose to play CS instead of Harvest Moon.
Quote:atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it Other games are not EVE, and do not have the interconnected nature of EVE, so they can do that. EVE cannot. But sure, let's explore that idea. Here's what will happen when you turn "PvP Off":
You can no longer use S&I slots. You are no longer allowed to access or use POSes. You are no longer allowed to rent or use corp offices. You are no longer allowed to access the market or contracts. You are no longer allowed to launch probes. You are no longer allowed to use the on-board scanner. You are no longer allowed to use any kind of untargeted offensive module. The only things that show up in your overview/bracket list are stations, jump gates, and NPC ships and warp gates that spawn as part of your mission. All other items (player ships, wrecks, loot canisters, asteroids etc etc etc) become un-interactable.
GǪand that's just off the top of my head GÇö there are plenty more restrictions that need to put into place. Such as (roughly and at least) a six-week switch-over timer so you can't flip-flop between the two and terrorise the PvPers.
If you don't want to PvP, then fine GÇö you're not allowed to PvP in any of the ways the above tools and functionalities let you do. Now, do you really think that it would be a fun game to play if you couldn't do any of the above?
Quote:oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours It's your choice not to engage in the core activity of the game, so yes. If you don't want to twiddle your thumbs, you can choose that as well. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:48:00 -
[59] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Alidar wrote:mining is fun for me Protecting the poor ice asteroids in Gallente space is fun for us. what so poor about them, A: they respawn daily, and B: they take too long to mine to ever be mined out so go find yourself someone who may actually challenge you, or oh wait you like raping murdering and other senseless violence but lack the balls to do it in reality, so you take it out on people who can't have you locked up because it's considered a game |
mechtech
SRS Industries SRS.
33
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:50:00 -
[60] - Quote
Alidar wrote:[quote=Obsidian Hawk]as i have experienced lately the in game racial profiling, where goonswarm decided that all gallente space has to be protected by them from miners that aren't gallente who aren't willing or able to pay their members a fee of over 250million isk, i don't even make that much in a month
If you don't think this is awesome, you're missing out on what's best about eve. FYI this is a huge market manipulation on oxygen isotopes.
Sometimes other players will gank you, scam you, or do any number of unsavory things, but it all contributes to the harsh, rich , dynamic landscape that is eve online. |
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Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:50:00 -
[61] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Alidar wrote:mining is fun for me Protecting the poor ice asteroids in Gallente space is fun for us. what so poor about them, A: they respawn daily, and B: they take too long to mine to ever be mined out so go find yourself someone who may actually challenge you, or oh wait you like raping murdering and other senseless violence but lack the balls to do it in reality, so you take it out on people who can't have you locked up because it's considered a game
Confirmed. The OP is Jack Thompson.
Remember him? |
Mixne
More Money More Problems
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:51:00 -
[62] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Kaede Kimura wrote:Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft.... pffft...AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH Set pvp status? Your PvE server WoW guild called, they said they want their healer back. ha ha wow sucks, there's no space ships, it's too cartoony, and the classes are all clones of every other game before it, i wouldn't be caught dead or alive as wow player, scumbag trolls like you are why they make games like that so you can actually look the part
Really? Is this real? |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:53:00 -
[63] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP? I don't know. Why do non-PvPers act like terrorists to others who like PvP? Quote:it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp? It's a PvP game. What's unfair, childish, rude and in reality criminally insane is that some people want to reap all the benefits and pay none of the costs and then have the audacity to bawl their guts out when others insist that they play by the rules. Not to mention wanting the power to influence others without being influenced themselves. What you're asking for is essentially this: since there are chickens and produce in CS_Italy, you think it's unfair that other CS players keep shooting you in the face, when all you want to do is tend your farm. The insanity here is not on the part of the face-shooters, but on the person who chose to play CS instead of Harvest Moon. Quote:atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it Other games are not EVE, and do not have the interconnected nature of EVE, so they can do that. EVE cannot. But sure, let's explore that idea. Here's what will happen when you turn "PvP Off": You can no longer use S&I slots. You are no longer allowed to access or use POSes. You are no longer allowed to rent or use corp offices. You are no longer allowed to access the market or contracts. You are no longer allowed to launch probes. You are no longer allowed to use the on-board scanner. The only things that show up in your overview are stations, jump gates, and NPC ships and warp gates that spawn as part of your mission. All other items (player ships, wrecks, loot canisters, asteroids etc etc etc) become un-interactable. GǪand that's just off the top of my head GÇö there are plenty more restrictions that need to put into place. Such as (roughly and at least) a six-week switch-over timer so you can't flip-flop between the two and terrorise the PvPers. If you don't want to PvP, then fine GÇö you're not allowed to PvP in any of the ways the above tools and functionalities let you do. Now, do you really think that it would be a fun game to play if you couldn't do any of the above? Quote:oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours It's your choice not to engage in the core activity of the game, so yes. If you don't want to twiddle your thumbs, you can choose that as well.
your logic is flawed there you assume everyone wants all of that, also you assume that other pvpers won't have anyone to kill if people can turn it of when actually you could just go after eachother and leave alone those who don't like violence, you're all terrorists plain and simple and no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out |
Pseudo Ucksth
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
4
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:54:00 -
[64] - Quote
Haha oh wow. |
Chopper Rollins
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:56:00 -
[65] - Quote
I do believe OP is serious.
I play the same game as OP, i generally play solo. Many friends, but not cliqued-up with a mega slave alliance. Hard to understand what problems OP is having. Become a hard target. That is all. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:56:00 -
[66] - Quote
Pseudo Ucksth wrote:Haha oh wow.
a bully is still a bully, feel free to sugar coat it all you want, excuse me if i'm just Diabetic |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:56:00 -
[67] - Quote
This thread is becoming epic.
Apparently, I'm a terrorist on par of Osama Bin Laden because some guy can't comprehend how to play EVE. |
Mixne
More Money More Problems
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:57:00 -
[68] - Quote
Alidar wrote:
your logic is flawed there you assume everyone wants all of that, also you assume that other pvpers won't have anyone to kill if people can turn it of when actually you could just go after eachother and leave alone those who don't like violence, you're all terrorists plain and simple and no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out
So you're saying that people should be killed because they destroyed your internet spaceship in a game? That sounds like you're advocating violence, right after you said you didn't like violence. So which is it?
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:57:00 -
[69] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Ladie Harlot wrote:Alidar wrote:mining is fun for me Protecting the poor ice asteroids in Gallente space is fun for us. what so poor about them, A: they respawn daily, and B: they take too long to mine to ever be mined out so go find yourself someone who may actually challenge you, or oh wait you like raping murdering and other senseless violence but lack the balls to do it in reality, so you take it out on people who can't have you locked up because it's considered a game
whats so bad about ganking highsec miners?
A) they respawn instantly B) they take too long to get off their asses and decide to go explore EVE, make things happen, and become an active player in the game. they might as well not be there. |
Pseudo Ucksth
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:58:00 -
[70] - Quote
Alidar wrote:no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out
:frogsiren: Godwin's invoked. Shark has been jumped. Everyone out. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
364
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:59:00 -
[71] - Quote
Alidar wrote:your logic is flawed there you assume everyone wants all of that No, my logic is unassailable because I know that all of that is PvP GÇö if you don't want to PvP, you are not allowed to do any of the things that would terrorise the poor PvPers.
Quote:also you assume that other pvpers won't have anyone to kill if people can turn it of when actually you could just go after eachother and leave alone those who don't like violence No, I do not assume that. It does not even factor into the equation. Straw man.
Quote:you're all terrorists plain and simple No, we are just people playing the actual game. You are terrorising us by ruining that game.
Quote:and no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate You are a ******* loon. Reported.
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2011.10.09 05:59:00 -
[72] - Quote
Pseudo Ucksth wrote:Alidar wrote:no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out :frogsiren: Godwin's invoked. Shark has been jumped. Everyone out.
stop prematurely godwining!
you are literally [Redacted]. (wow, CCP, really?)
there, now you can continue. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:00:00 -
[73] - Quote
Alidar wrote: what so poor about them, A: they respawn daily, and B: they take too long to mine to ever be mined out so go find yourself someone who may actually challenge you, or oh wait you like raping murdering and other senseless violence but lack the balls to do it in reality, so you take it out on people who can't have you locked up because it's considered a game The ice asteroids hate pubbies and asked for our help. Goons care about the environment above everything else so we had to help them out.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:00:00 -
[74] - Quote
Brynhilda wrote:This thread is becoming epic.
Apparently, I'm a terrorist on par of Osama Bin Laden because some guy can't comprehend how to play EVE.
darlin' I beta tested this cesspool that you criminals have turned this game into, so don't dare tell me i don't know how to play, i helped shape this game into what it currently looks and feels like, and excuse me but back then you did have to consent to player on player fighting, why they took away the right to choose, i'll never know, guess they just figured how else to get players than to appeal to closet criminals |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:02:00 -
[75] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:This thread is becoming epic.
Apparently, I'm a terrorist on par of Osama Bin Laden because some guy can't comprehend how to play EVE. darlin' I beta tested this cesspool that you criminals have turned this game into, so don't dare tell me i don't know how to play, i helped shape this game into what it currently looks and feels like, and excuse me but back then you did have to consent to player on player fighting, why they took away the right to choose, i'll never know, guess they just figured how else to get players than to appeal to closet criminals
from the sounds of things, if you helped shape anything, it was the overused technique of wandering space like a passive observer with a victim mentality. |
Pseudo Ucksth
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:02:00 -
[76] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Pseudo Ucksth wrote:Alidar wrote:no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out :frogsiren: Godwin's invoked. Shark has been jumped. Everyone out. stop prematurely godwining! you are literally [Redacted]. (wow, CCP, really?) there, now you can continue.
Excuse me but Godwin 'aint just for ***** anymore. The letter was not fulfilled, but the spirit of the law was invoked. |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:02:00 -
[77] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:This thread is becoming epic.
Apparently, I'm a terrorist on par of Osama Bin Laden because some guy can't comprehend how to play EVE. darlin' I beta tested this cesspool that you criminals have turned this game into, so don't dare tell me i don't know how to play, i helped shape this game into what it currently looks and feels like, and excuse me but back then you did have to consent to player on player fighting, why they took away the right to choose, i'll never know, guess they just figured how else to get players than to appeal to closet criminals The funniest part of this whole thing is that you're probably going to get a forum ban for calling us terrorists (and murderers and rapists) and we'll still be happily farming miners while you're waiting for your timeout to end.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:04:00 -
[78] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote:Alidar wrote: what so poor about them, A: they respawn daily, and B: they take too long to mine to ever be mined out so go find yourself someone who may actually challenge you, or oh wait you like raping murdering and other senseless violence but lack the balls to do it in reality, so you take it out on people who can't have you locked up because it's considered a game The ice asteroids hate pubbies and asked for our help. Goons care about the environment above everything else so we had to help them out.
uh huh, so you're calling your self tree hugging hippies?, last i heard those types just participate in unarmed sit ins, man if you are really going to use that excuse atleast remember that your polluting that environment with shipwrecks and corpses, you're just lawless morons, and hippocrates |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:05:00 -
[79] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:This thread is becoming epic.
Apparently, I'm a terrorist on par of Osama Bin Laden because some guy can't comprehend how to play EVE. darlin' I beta tested this cesspool that you criminals have turned this game into, so don't dare tell me i don't know how to play, i helped shape this game into what it currently looks and feels like, and excuse me but back then you did have to consent to player on player fighting, why they took away the right to choose, i'll never know, guess they just figured how else to get players than to appeal to closet criminals
You helped shaped one aspect of the game. Whiny carebears who want to play an epic game of click on ice and mine until the cargo is full and whine on the forums when the actual game comes knock on their door.
Maybe if you actually used your brain and paid attention to the politics in the game, talked to people, know how to actually play than 'My Massively Single Player' game, you might not be the lulzworthy forum poster that you are. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
31
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:06:00 -
[80] - Quote
your arguments are beginning to fall apart, as you are claiming that pvpers are fundamentally evil people carrying out evil desires that normal people don't get (as opposed to people having fun in a competitive setting), while you yourself are becoming visibly angrier with each reply. you are being exactly what you hate, you're dehumanizing the people who disagree with you - and you can't even tell. |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:06:00 -
[81] - Quote
Alidar wrote: you're just lawless morons, and hippocrates Cool. Hippocrates was a p awesome dude. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
139
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:08:00 -
[82] - Quote
Akirei Scytale -
Have i told you how lovely those goggles look on you? You look even cuter when you are angry and have them on. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:11:00 -
[83] - Quote
Obsidian Hawk wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE Corp Por Corp Por Corp Por In Jux Sanct Kal Vas Flam! ------- Only towns were safe areas Alidar, and then you couldnt do anything there. But the unforgiving environment was very fun. made dungeon diving much more exciting. now as for goons. LOLOL you think paying their fees they would stop? hahaha they wont stop killing anyone there but there are more reasons to it than just protecting the belts from miners.
of course i know they would turn on me if i agreed to pay their blood money, as well as i know there is more to it blood lust, for goodness sakes if you really want to kill people that bad join a real gang or go on a killing spree in your local mall, because doing in a game won't make you feel the real power of actually doing it, you just do it here because your cowards! |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:14:00 -
[84] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE Corp Por Corp Por Corp Por In Jux Sanct Kal Vas Flam! ------- Only towns were safe areas Alidar, and then you couldnt do anything there. But the unforgiving environment was very fun. made dungeon diving much more exciting. now as for goons. LOLOL you think paying their fees they would stop? hahaha they wont stop killing anyone there but there are more reasons to it than just protecting the belts from miners. of course i know they would turn on me if i agreed to pay their blood money, as well as i know there is more to it blood lust, for goodness sakes if you really want to kill people that bad join a real gang or go on a killing spree in your local mall, because doing in a game won't make you feel the real power of actually doing it, you just do it here because your cowards!
Or it could be that we enjoy playing a game.
I suppose everyone playing Call of Duty should join the military by your logic and everyone playing Ridge Racer should become NASCAR racers.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
474
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:15:00 -
[85] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:This thread is becoming epic.
Apparently, I'm a terrorist on par of Osama Bin Laden because some guy can't comprehend how to play EVE. darlin' I beta tested this cesspool that you criminals have turned this game into, so don't dare tell me i don't know how to play, i helped shape this game into what it currently looks and feels like, and excuse me but back then you did have to consent to player on player fighting, why they took away the right to choose, i'll never know, guess they just figured how else to get players than to appeal to closet criminals
Oh wow this is an especially hilarious one. I mean if you're going to make stuff up, make it good.
Please tell us more of the peaceful wonderland of consensual PvP that EVE used to be, sir. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:15:00 -
[86] - Quote
Brynhilda wrote:Maybe you should grow a brain and learn how to not make yourself such an easy target.
Announcing that you're an easy target on the forums is a good way to make your life more miserable in EVE, though.
Perhaps learning how to PVP and drive of people would help then.
ha not as easy as you think, except when i'm in those paper ore ships, i mean who designed those things anyway, the Kleenex corporation? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
364
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:16:00 -
[87] - Quote
Alidar wrote:darlin' I beta tested this cesspool No you didn't.
Quote:i helped shape this game into what it currently looks and feels like Ok, so you made it a full-PvP game and now you're mad that it turned out the way you wanted. You're making a whooooole lot of sense here. Loon. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:18:00 -
[88] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:Maybe you should grow a brain and learn how to not make yourself such an easy target.
Announcing that you're an easy target on the forums is a good way to make your life more miserable in EVE, though.
Perhaps learning how to PVP and drive of people would help then. ha not as easy as you think, except when i'm in those paper ore ships, i mean who designed those things anyway, the Kleenex corporation?
Then grow a brain and learn how to properly mine with Goons war on Oxygen Iso going on.
Blaming the ship for your incompetence is a poor excuse. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:19:00 -
[89] - Quote
oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, also lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:22:00 -
[90] - Quote
Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, alos lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning I hope you'll make a recording of them laughing at you and upload it for us.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
364
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:22:00 -
[91] - Quote
Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router No you didn't. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:22:00 -
[92] - Quote
actually yes i did
and i didn't mean that i know exactly who yet, but i will |
Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
354
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:23:00 -
[93] - Quote
I'm certainly convinced.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:23:00 -
[94] - Quote
Relevant. |
Sleeper 1173
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:24:00 -
[95] - Quote
Mining, from 1.0 to > 0.0 requires planning, discipline, and, above all, constant thought. That's what separates PvPers from miners. and the poor from the comfortable.
Gather up a bunch of friends, have a few beers and head for the belts almost anywhere and you're all going to end up in the vat or walking home. No thought. No plan. No discipline.
There are several people still left in the game who could teach you to mine safely and profitably . . . I think. Many have quit in disgust after sinking a lot of effort into recruiting.
I'm a miner, but I don't waste time on people like you any more.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
364
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:25:00 -
[96] - Quote
Alidar wrote:actually yes i did
and i didn't mean that i know exactly who yet, but i will
No you didn't. And no you won't. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:26:00 -
[97] - Quote
it is Relevant, because it means someone or multiple someones have taken this to a personal level beyond it's intention to where they have commited a true crime in the real world over something I have the right to have an opinion of |
Sleeper 1173
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:26:00 -
[98] - Quote
Alidar wrote:actually yes i did and i didn't mean that i know exactly who yet, but i will
Sorry I wasted my post now. You have no concept of truth. Put a sock in it. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:27:00 -
[99] - Quote
Alidar wrote:it is Relevant, because it means someone or multiple someones have taken this to a personal level beyond it's intention to where they have commited a true crime in the real world over something I have the right to have an opinion of
Do you remember that scene? |
Disfocate
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:29:00 -
[100] - Quote
Obsidian Hawk wrote:I miss uo and their pvp.
Who also did huge battles at Britania bridge just tossing energy bolts back and forth?
Also had a few good fights around the brit GY and brit crossroads as the anti-pk crowd would bring it. |
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Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation RONA Directorate
141
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:29:00 -
[101] - Quote
Q_Q I try to hit on Akirei and she ignores me.
*drowns himself in a bottle of quafe ultra.* |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
364
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:30:00 -
[102] - Quote
Alidar wrote:it is Relevant, because it means someone or multiple someones have taken this to a personal level beyond it's intention to where they have commited a true crime in the real world No, it's not multiple someones GÇö just you.
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:30:00 -
[103] - Quote
either way people we are all entitled to our opinions, but personally i doubt PvP would be damaged by letting some of us to opt out, or if you would just kill the macro miner bots that plague this game, i mean heck i'm all for that, the least you could do is find out if there is a real person at the helm, and if not, go for it, i'll join right in along side you |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:31:00 -
[104] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Alidar wrote:it is Relevant, because it means someone or multiple someones have taken this to a personal level beyond it's intention to where they have commited a true crime in the real world No, it's not multiple someones GÇö just you.
um.. i'm sorry but it would be as pointless as your existence for me to use a Denial of service attack on myself, especially since i already am aware of the ineffectiveness, so just shut up |
Brother ThantosXI
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:33:00 -
[105] - Quote
What do you want, you can have anything in EVE, just spell it out an I am sure we can point you the right direction, but you will always be a PVP rat in and out of game. |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:33:00 -
[106] - Quote
The problem with Marco Miners is that they don't squeal like you do.
Being hard of hearing, its especially fulfilling to hear a carebear who thinks EVE revolves around them squeal in such a shrill fashion. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
364
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:34:00 -
[107] - Quote
Alidar wrote:um.. i'm sorry but it would be as pointless as your existence for me to use a Denial of service attack on mysel Well you see, here's the thing: they never happened. That's just your voices telling you things. Ask them to remind you to take your meds.
No, I'm talking about the libel and near-death threats you've posted. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Disfocate
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:35:00 -
[108] - Quote
Alidar wrote:
you're all terrorists plain and simple and no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out
/facepalm
oh jeez. go back to mining and build me some ships to kill you with. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:35:00 -
[109] - Quote
Brother ThantosXI wrote:What do you want, you can have anything in EVE, just spell it out an I am sure we can point you the right direction.
I doubt that, no one who wants to help anyone but themselves here |
Dr Kang
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:35:00 -
[110] - Quote
I love this thread and everyone in it. Tell me Alidar, what are your views on people joining a corp with the intention of stealing or awoxing? |
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Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:38:00 -
[111] - Quote
Dr Kang wrote:I love this thread and everyone in it. Tell me Alidar, what are your views on people joining a corp with the intention of stealing or awoxing?
it's a crime in the real world, and since people insist on comparing the 2 as equal then the same punishments should also apply, and i'm also getting the inkling that you're accusing me of something, and you would be sadly mistaken there |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:39:00 -
[112] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brother ThantosXI wrote:What do you want, you can have anything in EVE, just spell it out an I am sure we can point you the right direction. I doubt that, no one who wants to help anyone but themselves here
I help newer players out all the time. But I don't help the willfully ignorant.
Alidar wrote:Dr Kang wrote:I love this thread and everyone in it. Tell me Alidar, what are your views on people joining a corp with the intention of stealing or awoxing? it's a crime in the real world, and since people insist on comparing the 2 as equal then the same punishments should also apply, and i'm also getting the inkling that you're accusing me of something, and you would be sadly mistaken there
Its a game. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:41:00 -
[113] - Quote
Disfocate wrote:Alidar wrote:
you're all terrorists plain and simple and no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out
/facepalm oh jeez. go back to mining and build me some ships to kill you with.
i'll build you anything you want, it will just cost you the first born of the next 100 generations of your family, and your virginity, lol, j/k of course |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:42:00 -
[114] - Quote
The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:42:00 -
[115] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Alidar wrote:Brother ThantosXI wrote:What do you want, you can have anything in EVE, just spell it out an I am sure we can point you the right direction. I doubt that, no one who wants to help anyone but themselves here I help newer players out all the time. But I don't help the willfully ignorant. Alidar wrote:Dr Kang wrote:I love this thread and everyone in it. Tell me Alidar, what are your views on people joining a corp with the intention of stealing or awoxing? it's a crime in the real world, and since people insist on comparing the 2 as equal then the same punishments should also apply, and i'm also getting the inkling that you're accusing me of something, and you would be sadly mistaken there Its a game.
a 2004 start date hardly makes me new, though technically the date should read 2003, but sadly beta time was wiped, and my character had a different name there |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:46:00 -
[116] - Quote
Brynhilda wrote:The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society.
the Gallente are a True democracy, whatever they mean by that, judging there still has yet to be one in the real world |
Disfocate
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
12
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:48:00 -
[117] - Quote
Alidar wrote:
a 2004 start date hardly makes me new, though technically the date should read 2003, but sadly beta time was wiped, and my character had a different name there
now i'm sure your trolling. anyone who has been in this game that long would certainly have a better grasp of how things are. it took me less than a month to figure that one out. So your saying in nearly 9 years you haven't got it?
edit: forgot to add. 9/10. look at all these bites. (myself included) |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:48:00 -
[118] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society. the Gallente are a True democracy, whatever they mean by that, judging there still has yet to be one in the real world
And they don't control the world of EVE. Even with Gallente as a true democracy, the rules of the world don't apply to EVE.
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Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:53:00 -
[119] - Quote
Brynhilda wrote:The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society.
actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics working in a gun store, though i guess i really don't see even as much harm in that, but anyway i'm also saying that as a paying customer, which i am due to the outrageous shortage of isk for plex due to my exhumers being one shotted by bullies who have no one better to shoot, and as a paying customer i should have the choice whether or not to let a some coward with a gun to come in and shoot me point blank in my skull like some unsuspecting toddler |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
474
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:56:00 -
[120] - Quote
Alidar wrote: actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics
Tell us some more about these 3000 "DDoS attacks" and how you created EvE beta.
Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
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Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:58:00 -
[121] - Quote
Brynhilda wrote:Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society. the Gallente are a True democracy, whatever they mean by that, judging there still has yet to be one in the real world And they don't control the world of EVE. Even with Gallente as a true democracy, the rules of the world don't apply to EVE.
also a partial point i made earlier on part of the whole thing sadly it was someone else that did the full comparison syaing that it was like the real world :-P
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Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:58:00 -
[122] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society. actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics working in a gun store, though i guess i really don't see even as much harm in that, but anyway i'm also saying that as a paying customer, which i am due to the outrageous shortage of isk for plex due to my exhumers being one shotted by bullies who have no one better to shoot, and as a paying customer i should have the choice whether or not to let a some coward with a gun to come in and shoot me point blank in my skull like some unsuspecting toddler
But you're not. You're a miner in space, mining ice to sell and to make a profit so you can buy more miners.
And anyone who is mining and had a brain would hear reports of miners getting attacked in ice belts in Gallente space would know that it might be a good time to dock up and pursue another occupation for the time being. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
474
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 06:58:00 -
[123] - Quote
BTW I know where you live and I'm going to haxx0r the local transport network and make you get a red light on the way to work.
Enjoy your reprimand for being 3 minutes late!
(Also I'm gonna bribe the guy at Macdonalds to put triple pickles in your burger . AAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!) Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:59:00 -
[124] - Quote
Alidar wrote:
actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics working in a gun store, though i guess i really don't see even as much harm in that, but anyway i'm also saying that as a paying customer, which i am due to the outrageous shortage of isk for plex due to my exhumers being one shotted by bullies who have no one better to shoot, and as a paying customer i should have the choice whether or not to let a some coward with a gun to come in and shoot me point blank in my skull like some unsuspecting toddler
The thing you need to realize right now is that you chose to be that toddler. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 06:59:00 -
[125] - Quote
Brynhilda wrote:Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society. actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics working in a gun store, though i guess i really don't see even as much harm in that, but anyway i'm also saying that as a paying customer, which i am due to the outrageous shortage of isk for plex due to my exhumers being one shotted by bullies who have no one better to shoot, and as a paying customer i should have the choice whether or not to let a some coward with a gun to come in and shoot me point blank in my skull like some unsuspecting toddler But you're not. You're a miner in space, mining ice to sell and to make a profit so you can buy more miners. And anyone who is mining and had a brain would hear reports of miners getting attacked in ice belts in Gallente space would know that it might be a good time to dock up and pursue another occupation for the time being.
sadly you are mistaken, i mine to afford the skills i need to be able to fly a titan |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
32
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:00:00 -
[126] - Quote
Alidar wrote: also a partial point i made earlier on part of the whole thing sadly it was someone else that did the full comparison syaing that it was like the real world :-P
compared eve's mechanics to the real world, not its lore. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:01:00 -
[127] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society. actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics working in a gun store, though i guess i really don't see even as much harm in that, but anyway i'm also saying that as a paying customer, which i am due to the outrageous shortage of isk for plex due to my exhumers being one shotted by bullies who have no one better to shoot, and as a paying customer i should have the choice whether or not to let a some coward with a gun to come in and shoot me point blank in my skull like some unsuspecting toddler But you're not. You're a miner in space, mining ice to sell and to make a profit so you can buy more miners. And anyone who is mining and had a brain would hear reports of miners getting attacked in ice belts in Gallente space would know that it might be a good time to dock up and pursue another occupation for the time being. sadly you are mistaken, i mine to afford the skills i need to be able to fly a titan
with my ultimate goal of being able to fly every ship in the game
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Nth Ares
Aliastra Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:02:00 -
[128] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
EVE was like this from the very beginning. As "carebears", WE are the ones stomping all over their PvP FFA Paradise. They act like that just because they can, and they are encouraged by the game mechanics.
Why do some people in real life become malicious hackers, thugs, or just bullies in general? It's just the dark side of human nature, don't take it personally. However I'd suggest this isn't a game for people with thin skins.
For even bringing up the subject you can expect to be trolled, taunted, and harrassed to no end. That's EVE for you. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
364
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:03:00 -
[129] - Quote
Alidar wrote:actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics GǪsays the guy who's being persecuted by people who do not know who he is; the guy who cannot distinguish between game and reality; the guy who wants people dead for having fun and playing according to the rules; the guy who quite clearly invents his own reality without even bothering to base it on well-known facts.
Yeah, no. The problem here isn't that others are acting like paranoid delusional psychotics GÇö it's that they don't act like you, which actually makes them rather normal compared to your paranoid and psychotic delusions.
Also, dammit, Malc, stop saying everything first! GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:04:00 -
[130] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:BTW I know where you live and I'm going to haxx0r the local transport network and make you get a red light on the way to work. Enjoy your reprimand for being 3 minutes late! (Also I'm gonna bribe the guy at Macdonalds to put triple pickles in your burger . AAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!)
thanks I love Pickles, and i work from home, so no traffic tie ups, though i would love to see every streetlight in my City's business district all turn green at once, the carnage would be hillarious, also i walk eveywhere i ever need to go anyway, good for the cardiovascular system, i assume our pilots still have those by eve's time, well except the Jove may not, lol |
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
355
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:07:00 -
[131] - Quote
I want to thank CCP for the gift of not locking this thread yet. The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:08:00 -
[132] - Quote
Nth Ares wrote:Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft.... EVE was like this from the very beginning. As "carebears", WE are the ones stomping all over their PvP FFA Paradise. They act like that just because they can, and they are encouraged by the game mechanics. Why do some people in real life become malicious hackers, thugs, or just bullies in general? It's just the dark side of human nature, don't take it personally. However I'd suggest this isn't a game for people with thin skins. For even bringing up the subject you can expect to be trolled, taunted, and harrassed to no end. That's EVE for you.
actually i'm looking forward to it, i'm an attention Wh*re |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:16:00 -
[133] - Quote
to slightly change subject, I play my character as a Caldari Who Defected to the Gallente Federation, Mostly because he Likes the Gallente's ships, clothes and for cheap giggles the men, anyone like that backstory? |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
474
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:23:00 -
[134] - Quote
Alidar wrote:to slightly change subject, I play my character as a Caldari Who Defected to the Gallente Federation, Mostly because he Likes the Gallente's ships, clothes and for cheap giggles the men, anyone like that backstory?
Well played, good sir. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players.
Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/ |
Zoe Alarhun
Drunken Space Irish
23
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:34:00 -
[135] - Quote
Posting to confirm that Osama told me to go out and violence boats. |
Anya Ohaya
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
8
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:37:00 -
[136] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
It's mostly just the forums, and the lol-PVP'ers you find outside the trade hubs. Go to low sec, and a lot of the players are OK guys. Less smack and more pew.
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Kengutsi Akira
22
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:38:00 -
[137] - Quote
Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up
an you should be playing something else or nothing at all if you think in game behavior is reason to incarcerate someone
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Shadowsword
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
11
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:38:00 -
[138] - Quote
Alidar wrote:[quote=Tippia]
your logic is flawed there you assume everyone wants all of that, also you assume that other pvpers won't have anyone to kill if people can turn it of when actually you could just go after eachother and leave alone those who don't like violence, you're all terrorists plain and simple and no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out
You seem awfully eager to dish out punishment for someone who doesn't like violence...
Let's assume for a second that you can become immune to pvp.
- Players would use their invulnerable alts to follow enemy fleets and keep tabs on what they do.
- Losses would be severely limited -> without much need to replace things, the economy would collapse -> players wouldn't be able to earn anything anymore + severe inflation.
- The whole sov warfare thing (which is sort of the heart of the game) would become meaningless if anyone could make his home in YOUR home.
There would also be a lot other side effects.
You need to think more. They are ways to live wihout fear of being ganked, but they require some amount of common sense. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.09 07:39:00 -
[139] - Quote
you have been hazed, deal with it plebs |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:06:00 -
[140] - Quote
Kengutsi Akira wrote:Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up an you should be playing something else or nothing at all if you think in game behavior is reason to incarcerate someone
nah, maybe not incarcerate, less messy to just blow them out an airlock! |
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Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:10:00 -
[141] - Quote
Shadowsword wrote:Alidar wrote:[quote=Tippia]
your logic is flawed there you assume everyone wants all of that, also you assume that other pvpers won't have anyone to kill if people can turn it of when actually you could just go after eachother and leave alone those who don't like violence, you're all terrorists plain and simple and no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out You seem awfully eager to dish out punishment for someone who doesn't like violence... Let's assume for a second that you can become immune to pvp. - Players would use their invulnerable alts to follow enemy fleets and keep tabs on what they do. - Losses would be severely limited -> without much need to replace things, the economy would collapse -> players wouldn't be able to earn anything anymore + severe inflation. - The whole sov warfare thing (which is sort of the heart of the game) would become meaningless if anyone could make his home in YOUR home. There would also be a lot other side effects. You need to think more. They are ways to live wihout fear of being ganked, but they require some amount of common sense.
Severe inflation already exists, there is no way it could get worse if anything the influx of extra materials would drive down prices, do you know nothing about economics, if there is too much of something and not enough demand for it, prices go down so that more people wil buy them |
Bleys Firedance
Alien Pancake Bonanza
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:19:00 -
[142] - Quote
Well here's my 0.01 isk take on this thread:
Dear CCP,
Please make EVE a nanny state for me, to help protect me from my own ignorance and stupidity.
Thanks.
OP, perhaps you should go visit a third world country where the environment you need to survive can be even more harsh than EVE, as you don't get a second chance such as making threads like this if you don't play by the rules of that countries culture. |
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
35
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:31:00 -
[143] - Quote
How many years is it going to take before people realize that this is a PVP game?
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
367
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:39:00 -
[144] - Quote
Alidar wrote:do you know nothing about economics, if there is too much of something and not enough demand for it, prices go down so that more people wil buy them Ok, so you don't understand economics either.
People will only buy them if there is a demand for it, and increasing supply does not increase demand. What you're asking for is the complete removal of demand, which does indeed collapse the economy.
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How many years is it going to take before people realize that this is a PVP game. More than eight apparently, since the OP fantasises about having been in the betaGǪ The real mystery is how long ago he bought that character and how he hasn't been able to figure out how the game economy works since then. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:46:00 -
[145] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How many years is it going to take before people realize that this is a PVP game?
when they specifically indicate it on the most recent boxes, btw they barely mention it, if at all |
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
302
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:47:00 -
[146] - Quote
You consent to PvP the moment you create an account.
It's part of the charm of Eve. Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
367
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 08:49:00 -
[147] - Quote
Alidar wrote:when they specifically indicate it on the most recent boxes So, some time around 2002 then. And then repeated with every expansion since.
Good to know. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:50:00 -
[148] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Alidar wrote:do you know nothing about economics, if there is too much of something and not enough demand for it, prices go down so that more people wil buy them Ok, so you don't understand economics either. People will only buy them if there is a demand for it, and increasing supply does not increase demand. What you're asking for is the complete removal of demand, which does indeed collapse the economy. Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:How many years is it going to take before people realize that this is a PVP game. More than eight apparently, since the OP fantasises about having been in the betaGǪ The real mystery is how long ago he bought that character and how he hasn't been able to figure out how the game economy works since then.
excuse me, but i believe your english to idiot translator is broken, I said not enough demand , not no demand, and besides if prices get too high economies collapse because those that need the products can not afford them |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:51:00 -
[149] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Alidar wrote:when they specifically indicate it on the most recent boxes So, some time around 2002 then. And then repeated with every expansion since. Good to know.
the most recent box in my country was 2010, and either pvp leads to real life violence, the existence of my current physical disabilities are proof of this, hence why i disagree with pvp, fyi i didn't always disagree |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
367
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:54:00 -
[150] - Quote
Alidar wrote:I said not enough demand , not no demand Actually, you said no demand GÇö the fact that you don't understand how you did this illustrates perfectly that you do not understand economics or the game.
Quote:besides if prices get too high economies collapse because those that need the products can not afford them If prices get too high, further removing demand is not the solutionGǪ
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
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Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:57:00 -
[151] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Alidar wrote:I said not enough demand , not no demand Actually, you said no demand GÇö the fact that you don't understand how you did this illustrates perfectly that you do not understand economics or the game. Quote:besides if prices get too high economies collapse because those that need the products can not afford them If prices get too high, further removing demand is not the solutionGǪ Oh andGǪ Quote:i believe your english to idiot translator is broken Well, sorry. I'll try to translate my English to something you understand: no ship go boom = no people want buy new ship = no man make ship = money becomes toilet paper.
re read it, it says "Not Enough" |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 08:59:00 -
[152] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Tippia wrote:Alidar wrote:I said not enough demand , not no demand Actually, you said no demand GÇö the fact that you don't understand how you did this illustrates perfectly that you do not understand economics or the game. Quote:besides if prices get too high economies collapse because those that need the products can not afford them If prices get too high, further removing demand is not the solutionGǪ Oh andGǪ Quote:i believe your english to idiot translator is broken Well, sorry. I'll try to translate my English to something you understand: no ship go boom = no people want buy new ship = no man make ship = money becomes toilet paper. re read it, it says "Not Enough"
also those wishing to pvp would still buy ships, and non pvp would still wish to get better ships, and i never said to turn of the npc pirates, i also never said to get rid of it entirely, just make it optional |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
367
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:01:00 -
[153] - Quote
Alidar wrote:re read it, it says "Not Enough" Yes, I re-read it. It doesn't matter what you say GÇö what you're suggesting is GÇ£no demandGÇ¥. Again, your being too new to the game to understand this does not change this fact.
Btw, have you heard of the edit buttonGǪ?
Sorry, forgot the translator again: you push GÇ£edit buttonGÇ¥, you get bacon! All happy!
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:02:00 -
[154] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
its called the e-peen syndrome... and its rather sad to see CCP cater to these things. |
Jaxon Grylls
Institute of Archaeology
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:05:00 -
[155] - Quote
Ladie Harlot wrote: You should join an alliance like mine that provides reimbursements so that with insurance+reimbursement I'm actually making money losing ships.
Good God! am I seeing this right? Lady Harlot actually posting something other than gratuitous insults and has actually given some sensible advice.
Miracles never cease. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
10
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:06:00 -
[156] - Quote
Alidar wrote:but personally i doubt PvP would be damaged by letting some of us to opt out
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Just think of it for a wile, what would happen if total invulnerability would be available on a competitive PvP server?
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Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:15:00 -
[157] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Alidar wrote:but personally i doubt PvP would be damaged by letting some of us to opt out You have no idea what you are talking about. Just think of it for a wile, what would happen if total invulnerability would be available on a competitive PvP server?
competitive? I am not sure I wanna call it that, mostly because I havent seen any actuall money making tournaments. invulnerability... if you, like me, dont like pvp you avoid it like the plague so the invulnerability should not make that much of a difference.
I'd actually like to see us be allowed to pay some addtional amount to get immunity and then if ever discovered to participate in pvp in any way, shape or form the immunity is null and void permanently |
Mocam
EVE University Ivy League
19
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:18:00 -
[158] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
Let's put it in from a PvE aspect and compare it to "other games".
There is no gear chase in this game like you get with other games.
Each expansion in those games adds items that make other things worthless - completely and utterly worthless. You don't find "level 80's" picking up level 5 weapons and using them.
In EVE you do.
You have years old chars in this game climbing into rifters, merlins, tristans, etc... Ships you get for free during your tutorials - and they aren't using those ships "just for lulz" - ACTUAL use to accomplish tasks that a char of their age needs to do.
A "since beta" player, who took 3 years off in the middle, comes back and can use the ships they have stored and be of equivalent effect as they were "back in the day".
In other words - this is exceptionally good design for those who "take a break" and those who "have real lives" vs the caffeine IV drip basement dweller with a catheter. They retain the ability to compete in this game world.
In EVE - when things are blown up, they need to be replaced.
Without that blowing things up and replacing them, you have very little activity in the market and the market is how PvE players measure their success in this game. "I make 'x' isk per hour! I have millions/billions/trillions!!!" PvP tend to use different measuring sticks but PvE - that's their "lookie me!!! I ROCK!" metric.
There are those that will avoid losing ANYTHING and those types cannot be allowed to 'take over the game'. Simply put, it would destroy the economy in short order and even they would pack it out being as almost no market movement would occur.
As such, there is a need to force such players into lose situations. Without it, they'd crash the market and the game would grind to a virtual halt.
No, it's not nice. Many of those that participate in such "PvP" activities can make one feel they need to take a shower after just chatting with them. As I tend to think of them "what I wipe off my shoe when I step wrong after the dog has been outside..." Disgusting, something you may mutter about but it'll rarely do more than annoy unless you're a bit of a twit yourself.
If you want a dynamic economy to buy and sell into - then either you have gear chasing or you have other ways for stuff to be gotten rid of/made obsolete - this game uses PvP mechanics to accomplish it.
Think of it as a "necessary evil". |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
827
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:24:00 -
[159] - Quote
i killed this guy. whoops!
the ~dread pirate iraf~ sends his regards, etc etc. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
367
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:29:00 -
[160] - Quote
Vaako Horizon wrote:competitive? I am not sure I wanna call it that, mostly because I havent seen any actuall money making tournaments. Log in. Open the market interface. There is is. Everything is.
If you mine the asteroid, you get the ore instead of me. Competitive. If you sell your stuff, you get the money from the sale instead of me. Competitive. If you find the complex and open the can, you get the loot instead of me. Competitive. Repeat for everything you could conceivable do in EVE.
Quote:invulnerability... if you, like me, dont like pvp you avoid it like the plague GǪwhich means you're not thinking in terms of PvP and how it will be used. If I'm immune, then I can take all your stuff and there is nothing you can do to stop me. If I'm immune, I can spy your entire alliance and give a live-feed of your fleet movement, and you can't get rid of me. If I'm immune, I can deliver every last item in Jita to your enemies, and not only will they be well supplied with everything imaginable, but you will have nothing, and you cannot keep your enemies from having it all.
Immunity, even in the most limited capacity, inherently does not work in a competitive PvP environment.
Go back to page three and look at the list I made there over things that simply must not be allowed to anyone that is GÇ£PvP immuneGÇ¥ and consider how much of what you're doing every second you're logged in (hell, even when you're not logged in) is done in direct competition with other players GÇö PvP. Good job. Keep at it. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
828
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:30:00 -
[161] - Quote
did you seriously make an eight page whine thread because i ganked your mackinaw because god damn son, god damn |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
11
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:30:00 -
[162] - Quote
Vaako Horizon wrote:competitive? I am not sure I wanna call it that, mostly because I havent seen any actuall money making tournaments. invulnerability... if you, like me, dont like pvp you avoid it like the plague so the invulnerability should not make that much of a difference.
I'd actually like to see us be allowed to pay some addtional amount to get immunity and then if ever discovered to participate in pvp in any way, shape or form the immunity is null and void permanently
We all compete for ISK, resources and space. Competition is everywhere - in the belts, on the market in the battle field. Competition is the driving force of EvE. How can you have missed that?
In a competitive environment ,no-one wants to pick a fight they cannot win. That goes for most PvPers in EvE. Many will go a long way to avoid fighting in many situations by, for example, making safe spots, scouting and fitting cloaks. Others will fit a tank on their mining barge so they are not an easy target.
If total invulnerability was available, everyone would have to use it to gain an advantage and that would effectively kill EvE.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
367
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:33:00 -
[163] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:did you seriously make an eight page whine thread because i ganked your mackinaw because god damn son, god damn Of course he did GÇö you are Osama, after all.
GǪor some such. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
828
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:38:00 -
[164] - Quote
i wish the other 80ish barges i destroyed had made threads like this
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The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
828
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:45:00 -
[165] - Quote
i don't think i even teased this guy in local, i just popped his barge and loaded up another brutix
this was back in the day before carirgnottin was a smoking postapocalyptic wasteland with goons fighting over the remains of miners like hyenas ravaging the corpse of a dead wildebeest, when there actually were macks to pop :( |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
828
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:48:00 -
[166] - Quote
Alidar wrote: a Cyber bully is still a cyberbully, they have names for people like you and none of them polite, and most get you in either prison or a padded cell
We don't see 'cyberbully' used often in this game, language-wise. I received the following hilarious mails today on Iraf from a throwaway alt:
This wouldn't happen to be you, would it?
Quote:Re: Re: Cyber Bullying is a Crime From: Aquiel Sakhti Sent: 2011.10.08 20:39 To: Iraf Thaiberd,
I.P. Address and home address and name acquired, have a nice final day!
Re: Cyber Bullying is a Crime From: Iraf Thaiberd Sent: 2011.10.08 19:20 To: Aquiel Sakhti,
oh no!
Cyber Bullying is a Crime From: Aquiel Sakhti Sent: 2011.10.08 07:39 To: Iraf Thaiberd,
Cyber Bullying is a Crime, continue harrassing non-gallente or anyone in gallente space and i will hunt you down in real life and wipe the existence of your lineage off the map
ps still alive |
Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
13
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:52:00 -
[167] - Quote
Mittani, you are a terrible person and you should be proud of yourself.
Now keep popping Macks! |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
367
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:52:00 -
[168] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:Quote:Re: Re: Cyber Bullying is a Crime From: Aquiel Sakhti Sent: 2011.10.08 20:39 To: Iraf Thaiberd,
I.P. Address and home address and name acquired, have a nice final day!
Re: Cyber Bullying is a Crime From: Iraf Thaiberd Sent: 2011.10.08 19:20 To: Aquiel Sakhti,
oh no!
Cyber Bullying is a Crime From: Aquiel Sakhti Sent: 2011.10.08 07:39 To: Iraf Thaiberd,
Cyber Bullying is a Crime, continue harrassing non-gallente or anyone in gallente space and i will hunt you down in real life and wipe the existence of your lineage off the map GǪmade even more hilarious by the fact that the poor alt in question actually was the one who broke the rules and (conceivably, but you're the lawyer here) broke a real-world law or two.
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
828
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:54:00 -
[169] - Quote
guys guys guys pvpers are awful people and ~cyberbullies~
*makes rl death threats over spaceship video game* |
Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:54:00 -
[170] - Quote
Man, this thread is too good to be true. Which one of you made an alt for this, fess up! |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
369
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Posted - 2011.10.09 09:57:00 -
[171] - Quote
Basileus Volkan wrote:Man, this thread is too good to be true. Which one of you made an alt for this, fess up! You're quite right.
This must be one of your plots to raise awareness of puppiesGǪ or some other important issue. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
tgl3
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
10
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:02:00 -
[172] - Quote
This can't be legit. Noone is this entertaining by accident. Right? RIGHT?
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Grideris
Fleet Coordination Command Fleet Coordination Coalition
14
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:03:00 -
[173] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Basileus Volkan wrote:Man, this thread is too good to be true. Which one of you made an alt for this, fess up! You're quite right. This must be one of your plots to raise awareness of puppiesGǪ or some other important issue. I think it's trying to raise awareness of bears and the threat they pose towards society. |
Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:05:00 -
[174] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Basileus Volkan wrote:Man, this thread is too good to be true. Which one of you made an alt for this, fess up! You're quite right. This must be one of your plots to raise awareness of puppiesGǪ or some other important issue.
Just like how we secretly DDoS any who oppose us in public.
Heil Mittens! |
The Mittani
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
828
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:07:00 -
[175] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Pseudo Ucksth wrote:Haha oh wow. a bully is still a bully, feel free to sugar coat it all you want, excuse me if i'm just Diabetic
Alidar wrote:
so far they all seem to be people that are or have ever been in any corp with the name goon in it, and i'm sure there are more, and if my charachter had the isk and skills you would expect from his creation date then i'd teach these little squabbling brats a thing or 2, unfortunately i've been out of game for years due to real life financial trouble that has recently changed to allow me to re-enter the eve universe just to learn that it is now a den for closeted murderers, gang members and theives, and can't cut it as the real thing so they do it in the only way that can't get them in prison, ....online, this makes me sick, and disappointed in CCP for allowing it to get like this.
Alidar wrote:
your logic is flawed there you assume everyone wants all of that, also you assume that other pvpers won't have anyone to kill if people can turn it of when actually you could just go after eachother and leave alone those who don't like violence, you're all terrorists plain and simple and no better that Osama in my book, an look where that got him, you all deserve his fate, but unfortuantely it's not my duty to carry out
let's sum up:
i ganked a crippled, financially destitute diabetic who hates pvp and considers me to be literally osama bin laden, as well as a murderous sociopath; he posts an incoherent rage thread about the injustice of it all, and meanwhile on his alt he's sending me death threats.
god damn i love this game |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
47
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:08:00 -
[176] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
Terrorists.
*LOL*
Doesn't it hurt, being that stupid ? |
Basileus Volkan
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
49
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:10:00 -
[177] - Quote
As an interesting side note: There is no universally accepted definition of terrorism; although one could define it as the destruction of utility services (Hospitals, power plants and so forth). In that sense, yes, we are terrorist. Which only makes what we do better. |
Thorn Galen
The Scope Gallente Federation
58
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:13:00 -
[178] - Quote
@Op
Holy crappin' threadnought!
It's a SANDBOX, what is it some people do not get about the word ? Anything goes, anytime, anywhere. But email threats? Jesus-H-Christ. If that is what you're reverting to because of this game, you really, really should not be playing. I do not partake in PvP or suicide ganking or pirating, but dude, those are realities and hard facts. If it can be proved that the email came from you, you should be perma-banned, outright.
The door is not real. |
DaiTengu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:18:00 -
[179] - Quote
The Mittani wrote:
let's sum up:
i ganked a crippled, financially destitute diabetic who hates pvp and considers me to be literally osama bin laden, as well as a murderous sociopath; he posts an incoherent rage thread about the injustice of it all, and meanwhile on his alt he's sending me death threats.
god damn i love this game
Don't forget you (or someone you told to) launched a 3000 hit "DDoS" at his router that is so pro it blocked all 3000 of whatever it was that came in. |
DaiTengu
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
21
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:18:00 -
[180] - Quote
maybe that's where he got your IP from. |
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Dradius Calvantia
Creative Cookie Procuring Rote Kapelle
27
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:22:00 -
[181] - Quote
O hey hold on a second.. I just realized that this guy is supposed to be a member of Broboden.
Contacting this guys alliance directors (I am still in the WHC Admin Chanel, used to fly with the directors like every day) to point out what a failure this idiot is. Broboden is supposed to be a WH PVP Alliance, WTH are you doing in it? |
Ntrails
Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:23:00 -
[182] - Quote
Amusingly he could have got mittens, name, rough address, and profile pic from CSM material and the rest from cottaging.com so it seems like he is going the long way round |
Truce Billis
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:24:00 -
[183] - Quote
DaiTengu wrote:The Mittani wrote:
let's sum up:
i ganked a crippled, financially destitute diabetic who hates pvp and considers me to be literally osama bin laden, as well as a murderous sociopath; he posts an incoherent rage thread about the injustice of it all, and meanwhile on his alt he's sending me death threats.
god damn i love this game
Don't forget you (or someone you told to) launched a 3000 hit "DDoS" at his router that is so pro it blocked all 3000 of whatever it was that came in. a second DDoS has hit the router |
Momiji Sakora
Omni Galactic Frontier Systems Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:43:00 -
[184] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Dr Kang wrote:I love this thread and everyone in it. Tell me Alidar, what are your views on people joining a corp with the intention of stealing or awoxing? it's a crime in the real world, and since people insist on comparing the 2 as equal then the same punishments should also apply, and i'm also getting the inkling that you're accusing me of something, and you would be sadly mistaken there
No sir, you will find that the rules of.the real world have been applied to this game, unfortunately for you these rules are from the wild west, and EVE is slap bang in the wildest part.
I am a carebear and I love what Goons are doing, they're adding more emergent gameplay to an already amazing game and i love them for it. You need to calm down and adapt. If goons are blowing you up, learn to defend yourself or find a quieter part of space, we're in one of the biggest game universes after all. |
Botleten
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
42
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:51:00 -
[185] - Quote
This might be the best thread Ive ever read. |
Aramatheia
Traveler 52 D-Collective
4
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:56:00 -
[186] - Quote
hmm i got a question, are goons just hitting ice miners with this current campaign or all miners openly? if its just ice, why not switch rock types? |
noise
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 10:59:00 -
[187] - Quote
I <3 this thread. twitterer | blogger |-ápodcast co-host |
Ryunosuke Kusanagi
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:01:00 -
[188] - Quote
Akirei Scytale wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE Corp Por Corp Por Corp Por
OooOo oOoooO oOooo OOoo oOOo |
Shadowsword
The Rough Riders Ares Protectiva
11
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:02:00 -
[189] - Quote
Alidar wrote:[quote=Shadowsword]
Severe inflation already exists,
Yes, it's so inflated I pay my dominix 120 millions, and my abbadon 250M.
Wait, actually I don't, the prices are about the same as they were 4 years ago.
Quote: there is no way it could get worse if anything the influx of extra materials would drive down prices, do you know nothing about economics, if there is too much of something and not enough demand for it, prices go down so that more people wil buy them
You missed the point by a kilometer, si I'll be clearer:
- Economy without money sinks -> players end up not knowing what to do with all their isks -> they pay extravagant amounts for rare things like faction mods without blinking. That is inflation.
- You said players will buy things when prices go do. The things is, why would they need to buy something they already have if they don't lose it?
Understanding the supply <-> demand rule is good. But that rule doesn't operate in a vaccuum. So, again, go thing more about what your ideas before you come here to get your head handed to you. |
Ammzi
Imperial Guardians Blazing Angels Alliance
39
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:03:00 -
[190] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
weakling. |
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Lexmana
Imperial Stout
12
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:04:00 -
[191] - Quote
Basileus Volkan wrote:As an interesting side note: There is no universally accepted definition of terrorism; although one could define it as the destruction of utility services (Hospitals, power plants and so forth). In that sense, yes, we are terrorist. Which only makes what we do better.
One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. |
Mr LaboratoryRat
Confederation of DuckTape Lovers
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:06:00 -
[192] - Quote
because those hello kitt people care about every million isk... greed is evil, act evil recieve evil |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
48
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:08:00 -
[193] - Quote
It's actually sad how people get taught that everything and everybody who's not doing what they believe he should do ... is getting called a terrorist.
Like ... internet terrorists. As if that made any sense, except for sheep who get told it makes sense...
That being said ...
We need towers in this game. |
Darth Skorpius
Legion of Darkwind Order of the Void
17
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:16:00 -
[194] - Quote
wow, this thread is awesome. i have to go to sleep now, but when i wake up i hope fro 20 more pages like this!
keep up the good work mittens, we need more people like you killing people like the op (ingame) so they keep making epic threadnaughts like this Baa Means Baa! |
HellGate fr
Yarrbear Inc.
3
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:26:00 -
[195] - Quote
You all got trolled |
Raid'En
Apprentice Innovations
54
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:33:00 -
[196] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft.... because CCP decided EVE was a full pvp game. |
Hauling Hal
The Black Ops
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:39:00 -
[197] - Quote
Ryunosuke Kusanagi wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:Akirei Scytale wrote:Obsidian Hawk wrote:You never played Ultima Online did you? That place was deadlier than EvE Corp Por Corp Por Corp Por In Jux Sanct Kal Vas Flam! OooOo oOoooO oOooo OOoo oOOo
*hic* |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:47:00 -
[198] - Quote
Posting in an epic thread! |
Feligast
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
122
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:49:00 -
[199] - Quote
HellGate fr wrote:You all got trolled
May all trolls be this good.
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Erawri
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:49:00 -
[200] - Quote
Alidar wrote:i helped shape this game into what it currently looks and feels like
Then you have no one to blame but yourself. |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
373
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:54:00 -
[201] - Quote
Yoink. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Giacomo Carissimi
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 11:55:00 -
[202] - Quote
HellGate fr wrote:You all got trolled
came to post this. |
ITTigerClawIK
Galactic Rangers Galactic-Rangers
11
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Posted - 2011.10.09 12:01:00 -
[203] - Quote
Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up
CCP Wrangler wrote: You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
i think ^ says it all really, dont you think???
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Vaako Horizon
Casual Slackers Daily Operations
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 12:02:00 -
[204] - Quote
Lexmana wrote:Vaako Horizon wrote:competitive? I am not sure I wanna call it that, mostly because I havent seen any actuall money making tournaments. invulnerability... if you, like me, dont like pvp you avoid it like the plague so the invulnerability should not make that much of a difference.
I'd actually like to see us be allowed to pay some addtional amount to get immunity and then if ever discovered to participate in pvp in any way, shape or form the immunity is null and void permanently We all compete for ISK, resources and space. Competition is everywhere - in the belts, on the market in the battle field. Competition is the driving force of EvE. How can you have missed that? In a competitive environment ,no-one wants to pick a fight they cannot win. That goes for most PvPers in EvE. Many will go a long way to avoid fighting in many situations by, for example, making safe spots, scouting and fitting cloaks. Others will fit a tank on their mining barge so they are not an easy target. If total invulnerability was available, everyone would have to use it to gain an advantage and that would effectively kill EvE.
its a game, those things you mentioned are a part of the game and yes ofc I have noticed it... when I think competitive I dont think ingame rewards, I think real life rewards.. any ingame "rewards" are just a part of the game. If you look back to my first line there and actually read it... |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
373
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Posted - 2011.10.09 12:06:00 -
[205] - Quote
Vaako Horizon wrote:If you look back to my first line there and actually read it... GǪit doesn't mention anything about real life.
That aside, real life rewards is not a prerequisite to make the game competitive.
GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Rikeka
Eye of God Moon Warriors
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 12:12:00 -
[206] - Quote
No Goon fan here, but if they making the "EvE is too hard! Non-consensual pvp should be changed/deleted/bannable..." tards whine, awesome. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DZUXQ.jpg[/IMG] |
Solstice Project
Cult of Personality
49
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Posted - 2011.10.09 12:27:00 -
[207] - Quote
EvE is way too easy anyway.
I accept that we need more cannon fod... people around here, but who the hell needs all these whiny little babies ? O_o |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
19
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Posted - 2011.10.09 12:33:00 -
[208] - Quote
Great thread, would read again. CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Mallak Azaria
Three 6 MaFiA Bringers of Death.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 12:35:00 -
[209] - Quote
Sticky this thread. |
Heimdallofasgard
APEX ARDENT COALITION NEM3SIS.
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 12:55:00 -
[210] - Quote
I especially like the part where OP got trolled... numerous times :D |
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Xutech
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:30:00 -
[211] - Quote
I think he raises some valid and interesting points. |
Tribal Solidarity
Sacred Templars RED.OverLord
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:30:00 -
[212] - Quote
Lol. That is all. |
Jonah Gravenstein
25
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:33:00 -
[213] - Quote
The OPs tears are so good that I, a dedicated carebear, am seriously tempted to go and harvest some other bears for my own self gratification.
Goons & the like may act like asshats, they're allowed to act like asshats, that's what makes this game so interesting, if you don't like asshattery, GTFO. --CATPAIN KIRK wrote: your not black - I've seen you in that video. I meant you write like an american but speak a somewhat difrent langauge - a bit like scotish or sumthing.-- |
Rixx Javix
Lucifer's Hammer Burn Away
11
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:47:00 -
[214] - Quote
Years ago I learned that every time I popped a Miner/Indy a kitten died in the real world somewhere.
Didn't stop me. http://eveoganda.blogspot.com |
Ruby Hotrod
X Generation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:52:00 -
[215] - Quote
....Bitter vet fanbois |
Vladimir Helios
Rayn Enterprises Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:54:00 -
[216] - Quote
Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, also lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning
Oh god, he's backtraced it. |
Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 14:59:00 -
[217] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Brynhilda wrote:The main problem here is that your comparing EVE to Western Earth Modern Culture.
What part of EVE is Western Civilization? We have the most powerful faction in EVE being religious god-fearing men who still condone with slavery. A tribal group of former slaves. A nation that focuses entirely on profit and everyone being useful and whatever the Gallente are.
However, you are too ethnocentric to even begin to think that a world where Earth's Western Society does not exist would have the exact same rules as Earth's Western Society. actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics working in a gun store, though i guess i really don't see even as much harm in that, but anyway i'm also saying that as a paying customer, which i am due to the outrageous shortage of isk for plex due to my exhumers being one shotted by bullies who have no one better to shoot, and as a paying customer i should have the choice whether or not to let a some coward with a gun to come in and shoot me point blank in my skull like some unsuspecting toddler
As a paying customer you have the option to stop playing if you do not like the rules that the game has put forth. No one is forcing you to play this game. They have rules and consequences for these nasty hi sec gankers and its called Conkorded, also no one is forcing you to mine where they are playing.
This game is a sandbox and if some kid keeps kicking down your castle where you build it maybe its time to move somewhere else and build there. |
Reilly Duvolle
Hydra Squadron
45
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:13:00 -
[218] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
Dont get mad. get even. |
KaarBaak
73
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:16:00 -
[219] - Quote
Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, also lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning
How.....?
But...why.....?
Oh for the love of....stop....just....stop.
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Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 15:20:00 -
[220] - Quote
KaarBaak wrote:Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, also lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning How.....? But...why.....? Oh for the love of....stop....just....stop.
Didn't you know? He's "important". |
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Devil's Call
Omega Legion XIII
658
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:37:00 -
[221] - Quote
Haha, look at his portrait. I bet you guys got trolled big time;p. Plus I can't imagine somebody being THIS ignorant really. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 15:43:00 -
[222] - Quote
Alidar wrote:sadly you are mistaken, i mine to afford the skills i need to be able to fly a titan
I can't wait for the "Erebus pilot goes mental" thread on Kugu |
Sarrilai Snipershot
Aliastra Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:47:00 -
[223] - Quote
Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up
OK, it looks like someone has absolutely no clue as to how this game works, so let me enlighten you a little bit. Eve Online is a PvP game, plain and simple. The moment you hit the "Undock" button on your NeoCom, you are consenting to PvP, even in so called "safe" High-Sec. As the Goons have been proving, the only places that are truly safe are an NPC station or a safe spot with a CovOps Cloak.
Now, the way I see it, you have a few options. You can either: A) Quit the game. B) Grow a pair and fight back. C) Move to a different region. D) Find something else to do.
Hell, if you have some liquid ISK to invest, start buying the modules they usually use at a low-ish price a few regions away and then bring them in and make some mad cash off the Gooons' suicidal new project. You have all sorts of avenues open to you to get around their ganking and have fun/make money but instead you're here whining and crying cause they blew up your favourite toy. Eve is a very cruel and unforgiving environment. If you're looking for hugs, sunshine, and fields of flowers where everyone gets along, Hello Kitty Island is =========> that-a-way. |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
19
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:49:00 -
[224] - Quote
Dyner wrote:KaarBaak wrote:Alidar wrote:oh and btw since i posted this thread i have gotten over 3000 DoS attacks to my router, lucky me they don't work through my security protocols, also lucky me the ip addresses responsible for them get recorded and traced by my system, and rest assured, police will be called in the morning How.....? But...why.....? Oh for the love of....stop....just....stop. Didn't you know? He's "impotent". FYP
CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
eatsbabies cienfuegos
Chernovan
1
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Posted - 2011.10.09 15:57:00 -
[225] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
if it was 50 years ago would you call us 'communists' instead?
the truth is: PVP is what makes the game exciting. everything else is fluff. |
Khanh'rhh
Sudden Buggery
73
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 15:58:00 -
[226] - Quote
I looked up BRABODEN in game. I then realised we had set them red. Then I realised it was because they are all as ******** as OP.
Still, when they try to camp your WH in a 400mil stealth bomber they're pretty welcome to have around. (EDIT: links still don't ******* work, so copy-paste http://www.suddenbuggery.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=1667)
Further reading: I never wanted that Carrier anyway
tl;dr - I don't think OP is trolling. Flame on. - "Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930's |
Simetraz
State War Academy Caldari State
83
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:00:00 -
[227] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
Gankers aren't interested in pew pew, they are interested in taking your ISK and or causing you tears.
Don't try to make sense out of it, you can't, cause you are dealing with a bunch of teenagers. They are lashing out any way they can, just pity them and move on.
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
|
Posted - 2011.10.09 16:08:00 -
[228] - Quote
Simetraz wrote:Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft.... Gankers aren't interested in pew pew, they are interested in taking your ISK and or causing you tears. Don't try to make sense out of it, you can't, cause you are dealing with a bunch of teenagers. They are lashing out any way they can, just pity them and move on.
its true my mom never loved me
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ChYph3r
Multiplex Gaming SpaceMonkey's Alliance
9
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:08:00 -
[229] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
Ummmm yeah, If ya dont like it go back to freakin WoW. With the rest of the fairy lovers! AMP - Angry Monkey Podcast |
Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:12:00 -
[230] - Quote
Sarrilai Snipershot wrote:Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up OK, it looks like someone has absolutely no clue as to how this game works, so let me enlighten you a little bit. Eve Online is a PvP game, plain and simple. The moment you hit the "Undock" button on your NeoCom, you are consenting to PvP, even in so called "safe" High-Sec. As the Goons have been proving, the only places that are truly safe are an NPC station or a safe spot with a CovOps Cloak. Now, the way I see it, you have a few options. You can either: A) Quit the game. B) Grow a pair and fight back. C) Move to a different region. D) Find something else to do. Hell, if you have some liquid ISK to invest, start buying the modules they usually use at a low-ish price a few regions away and then bring them in and make some mad cash off the Gooons' suicidal new project. You have all sorts of avenues open to you to get around their ganking and have fun/make money but instead you're here whining and crying cause they blew up your favourite toy. Eve is a very cruel and unforgiving environment. If you're looking for hugs, sunshine, and fields of flowers where everyone gets along, Hello Kitty Island is =========> that-a-way.
Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks.
Look at real life - when you leave your house, do you 'consent' to being mugged? No you don't , but you do accept that it could happen, but there are deterrents in place to help guard against it happening.
I have to ask, where are the actual empire forces in all of this - surely if the Gallente Federation's economy is being manipulated in this fashion, and not to their benefit, they would be doing something about it and not sitting back and allow 'invaders' to come in ruin their empire for them (look at the two most protectionist countries in the real world, China and the US - would they allow this to happen?)...so its not Concord that should be taking action, but the Gallente Navy. But, because the whole game mechanic for these actions is, while not broken, unrealistic, the Goons can do what they want.
On top of the post-Incarna Perpetuum effect which severely reduced player numbers, I suspect that there are many 'casual gamers - those who come on to mine and hang out with their corpies (in other words, the silent majority) who will probably think "screw this" as a waste of my monthly subscription. And of course now people are being offered a protection racket to get 'grey' standings with the Goons - who will probably gank them anyway!
As for making modules to sell to the Goons - why would I want to help someone screw the game even more?
I won't unsubscribe and will do other stuff to fill in my time online - but that means I'm playing someone else's EVE online, not mine.
H |
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Poetic Stanziel
Arrakis Technology
77
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:16:00 -
[231] - Quote
Because in EVE Online, the terrorists do win.
(And we are all thankful for that. If you are not thankful, and do not want the terrorists to win, then go play SW:TOR, WOW, or GOP Online.) What God Wants, God Gets, God Help Us All |
David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
53
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:21:00 -
[232] - Quote
i find that most pvper's are ok and understand the need for industrialists
but you do get a good few immature kids that like to be a schoolyard bully in this sandbox game.
they hide behind their insecurities by bullying those defenceless players such as noobs and miners cos its easier than dealing with having small todgers or have yet to come out of closets in real life or something but i guess we'll never know. |
Lexmana
Imperial Stout
18
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:22:00 -
[233] - Quote
Hestia Mar wrote:Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks.
Yeah, you are right. It should read: "if you register you consent to PvP"
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:24:00 -
[234] - Quote
Hestia Mar wrote:Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks. Look at real life - when you leave your house, do you 'consent' to being mugged? No you don't , but you do accept that it could happen, but there are deterrents in place to help guard against it happening. I have to ask, where are the actual empire forces in all of this - surely if the Gallente Federation's economy is being manipulated in this fashion, and not to their benefit, they would be doing something about it and not sitting back and allow 'invaders' to come in ruin their empire for them (look at the two most protectionist countries in the real world, China and the US - would they allow this to happen?)...so its not Concord that should be taking action, but the Gallente Navy. But, because the whole game mechanic for these actions is, while not broken, unrealistic, the Goons can do what they want. On top of the post-Incarna Perpetuum effect which severely reduced player numbers, I suspect that there are many 'casual gamers - those who come on to mine and hang out with their corpies (in other words, the silent majority) who will probably think "screw this" as a waste of my monthly subscription. And of course now people are being offered a protection racket to get 'grey' standings with the Goons - who will probably gank them anyway! As for making modules to sell to the Goons - why would I want to help someone screw the game even more? I won't unsubscribe and will do other stuff to fill in my time online - but that means I'm playing someone else's EVE online, not mine. H
Sorry, but your argument falls apart with the "real life" comparison. Yes, when you undock, you automatically consent to losing your ship. The Concord mechanic does not exist to make high-sec safe, it exists to create an illusion of safety, and at the very least to make gankers weigh the costs (ship+fittings minus insurance) against the benefits (loot from your ship, recipient's rage, whatever)
You are a lot like the idiots who cry about Hulkageddons. |
KaarBaak
73
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:25:00 -
[235] - Quote
Hestia Mar wrote:
Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks.
Look at real life...
Eve is a "Real Life Simulator?"
If so, it's failing in more areas than PvP.
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Lyris Nairn
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1154
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:26:00 -
[236] - Quote
I am certain that acting like a brat to people who are responding to your thread is going to go well for the OP. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
128
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:27:00 -
[237] - Quote
David Grogan wrote:i find that most pvper's are ok and understand the need for industrialists
but you do get a good few immature kids that like to be a schoolyard bully in this sandbox game.
they hide behind their insecurities by bullying those defenceless players such as noobs and miners cos its easier than dealing with having small todgers or have yet to come out of closets in real life or something but i guess we'll never know.
please tell me more about your degree in armchair psychology |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
390
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:36:00 -
[238] - Quote
What theGǪ how theGǪ whyGǪ UGH! Well, that clears things up immensely, to be honest.
Hestia Mar wrote:Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks. GǪapart from it being 100 percent true, that is. When you undock log in, you do so into a full-PvP environment and agree to pretty much anything anyone else might do to you. You are given all the tools you need to prevent this from happening and from there on, it's your choice how things play out. No, let's not. Instead, look at these oven mitts shaped and textured like a tiny piggy with its omgzcute snout and tailGǪ Why? Because those mitts are roughly 80 percent more relevant to what happens in-game than real life.
Quote:when you leave your house, do you 'consent' to being mugged? Actually you do, due to the tiny detail you left out: that you willingly moved to Mugger's Lane, Robbersville, in the northern part of WeNickYourStuffistan GÇö a street, city and nation where theGǪ ehmGǪ let's call it GÇ£unplanned redistribution of propertyGÇ£ is the national sport, universal pass-time and, not the least, the accepted way to say GÇ£good morningGÇ¥ to your next-door neighbour (in fact, your neighbour would consider you outright rude and tell on you to the local McCarthy-wannabe if you ever accidentally returned that lawn-mower you GÇ£borrowedGÇ¥ five summers ago).
Quote:I have to ask, where are the actual empire forces in all of this As little involved as they can get away with is where they are, for we are capsuleers GÇö immortal demigods that do not answer to their impotent courts and legal systems (and, with the wealth of plants at our personal disposal, we'd just buy the court and everyone in it if they ever tried to drag us in there)
So mighty are we that they had to hand over the handling of us to a special cross-empire entity that extensively uses cheats and backdoors to make us stop tearing up the neighbourhood. But again, there is that wealth of planets bit, and this institution is just as easily corrupted as any other and will happily avert their eyes for a nominal fee.
Sure, the empires themselves might give some token resistance if you we offend them and stray into their space, but that's just for show and to placate the plebs GÇö their actual tactics show that they just prefer it if we simply sod off and bother someone else. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Mag's
the united Negative Ten.
19
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:41:00 -
[239] - Quote
Hestia Mar wrote:Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks.
Look at real life........... RL comparisons with Eve are fail.
But you are correct in a way, that you don't even need to undock to consent to PvP, for the game is PvP centric. Almost everything we do in Eve is PvP.
Beat to the punch by Tippia yet again. CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Ryan Startalker Zhang
Zervas Aeronautics Something Posing As Meat
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:44:00 -
[240] - Quote
@OP
You sir had came to the wrong universe. This is EVE, not Earth. EVE is real, but it's different reality from your definition of law and justice.
Read more Chronicles. It would help you understand that. |
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Karn Dulake
Souls Must Be Trampled The.Alliance
26
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:46:00 -
[241] - Quote
You will find in time that there is little else to keep you here apart from PvP. everything else becomes very boring until PvP becomes boring and then you just troll the forums/play another game |
Jared Reidel
Shadows Of The Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:56:00 -
[242] - Quote
Wow the OP is such a victim - in all senses of the word. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
390
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:58:00 -
[243] - Quote
Jared Reidel wrote:Wow the OP is such a victim - in all senses of the word. Now now. Be nice.
Victims have suffered enough already without being compared to the OP. GÇöGÇöGÇö GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥ GÇö Karath Piki-á |
Talia Nachtigall
Insanely Twisted
6
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Posted - 2011.10.09 16:58:00 -
[244] - Quote
Because we can. Don't pray for my soul. ;) |
Herp McDerpinstan
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:02:00 -
[245] - Quote
Nth Ares wrote:Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft.... EVE was like this from the very beginning. As "carebears", WE are the ones stomping all over their PvP FFA Paradise. They act like that just because they can, and they are encouraged by the game mechanics. Why do some people in real life become malicious hackers, thugs, or just bullies in general? It's just the dark side of human nature, don't take it personally. However I'd suggest this isn't a game for people with thin skins. For even bringing up the subject you can expect to be trolled, taunted, and harrassed to no end. That's EVE for you.
Sup bro.
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Mareck001
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club Test Alliance Please Ignore
9
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:04:00 -
[246] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Jared Reidel wrote:Wow the OP is such a victim - in all senses of the word. Now now. Be nice. Victims have suffered enough already without being compared to the OP.
Yeah, at some point victims fight back.....
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Ladie Harlot
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
387
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:11:00 -
[247] - Quote
Simetraz wrote:Gankers aren't interested in pew pew, they are interested in taking your ISK and or causing you tears.
Don't try to make sense out of it, you can't, cause you are dealing with a bunch of teenagers. They are lashing out any way they can, just pity them and move on. Confirming that I am a 13 year old boy lashing out at the world.
The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet. |
Weaselior
BUTTECORP INC Goonswarm Federation
463
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:23:00 -
[248] - Quote
this thread has inspired me to go podding in jita
Zrell Ven was the first victim |
Devil's Call
Omega Legion XIII
658
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:25:00 -
[249] - Quote
Best troll thread in ages. |
Mekhana
Spiritus Draconis
163
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:25:00 -
[250] - Quote
2/10 |
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supersexysucker
Uber Awesome Fantastico Awesomeness Group
9
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:47:00 -
[251] - Quote
Let the OP have his no pvp flag, however when ticked no pvp, OP can not sell any ore / ice mined during that time period (after all goons are doing market PVP too, and if the OP could mine his ice, and sell it, he would be pvping in the market, and if he could sell it later, he could do massive market pvp, but have been 100% safe) (ha better plan, no pvp market and pvp market, the no pvp market prices would be close to 0isk as no loses would need to be replaced, no fuel would be needed as .4 and below the no pvp flag would not work so op can have his own worthless market!)
So OP can make no money while flagged no pvp, can come back here and cry about it, and we can get another lol thread!
Sounds like a plan?
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boseo
Azure Horizon
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 17:58:00 -
[252] - Quote
Not sure if serious or trolling
Sorry but file Gǣforumsig.GIFGǥ is currently unavailable please come back laterGǪGǪ like in a year or so.
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Malken
The Kairos Syndicate Transmission Lost
17
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:02:00 -
[253] - Quote
i bet the people whinging for a no pvp button in this game also plays CS and goes around asking people why they shoot them
duh! pvp is in the core of this game live with it or gtfo.
[img]http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/0703/malken_force.jpg[/img]
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Lorren Canada
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
61
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:06:00 -
[254] - Quote
Pubbies whining about EVE being too hard? Priceless |
Rikeka
Eye of God Moon Warriors
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:12:00 -
[255] - Quote
Hestia Mar wrote:Sarrilai Snipershot wrote:Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up OK, it looks like someone has absolutely no clue as to how this game works, so let me enlighten you a little bit. Eve Online is a PvP game, plain and simple. The moment you hit the "Undock" button on your NeoCom, you are consenting to PvP, even in so called "safe" High-Sec. As the Goons have been proving, the only places that are truly safe are an NPC station or a safe spot with a CovOps Cloak. Now, the way I see it, you have a few options. You can either: A) Quit the game. B) Grow a pair and fight back. C) Move to a different region. D) Find something else to do. Hell, if you have some liquid ISK to invest, start buying the modules they usually use at a low-ish price a few regions away and then bring them in and make some mad cash off the Gooons' suicidal new project. You have all sorts of avenues open to you to get around their ganking and have fun/make money but instead you're here whining and crying cause they blew up your favourite toy. Eve is a very cruel and unforgiving environment. If you're looking for hugs, sunshine, and fields of flowers where everyone gets along, Hello Kitty Island is =========> that-a-way. Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks. Look at real life - when you leave your house, do you 'consent' to being mugged? No you don't , but you do accept that it could happen, but there are deterrents in place to help guard against it happening. I have to ask, where are the actual empire forces in all of this - surely if the Gallente Federation's economy is being manipulated in this fashion, and not to their benefit, they would be doing something about it and not sitting back and allow 'invaders' to come in ruin their empire for them (look at the two most protectionist countries in the real world, China and the US - would they allow this to happen?)...so its not Concord that should be taking action, but the Gallente Navy. But, because the whole game mechanic for these actions is, while not broken, unrealistic, the Goons can do what they want. On top of the post-Incarna Perpetuum effect which severely reduced player numbers, I suspect that there are many 'casual gamers - those who come on to mine and hang out with their corpies (in other words, the silent majority) who will probably think "screw this" as a waste of my monthly subscription. And of course now people are being offered a protection racket to get 'grey' standings with the Goons - who will probably gank them anyway! As for making modules to sell to the Goons - why would I want to help someone screw the game even more? I won't unsubscribe and will do other stuff to fill in my time online - but that means I'm playing someone else's EVE online, not mine. H
Nonsense.
In real life, when you leave your house, there is a chance you'll get mugged, yes. Hell, there is big chance it will happen while you are in it. So, EVE is very carebearish, since I'd too like to enter your captain's quarters, mug you, take your ISK, kill you while you sleeping, drag your corpse through the catwalk (awesome vid, btw, CCP), tie it to your most expensive ship, and exit the station while I'm listening to The Credence at full volume...
Jokes aside, your post sucks:
1) In real life there are consequences? Ok, sorry to burst your bubble, but guess what? Most of the time there are none. Crime pays, bad people get away with pretty much everything they want, politicians lie, innocents die in huge stupid wars, etc. EVE, as hard as it is, is to Switzerland what real life is to Harlem, with you running naked in the street with a huge sign "I hate blacks!" and you spitting by on passerbies. Yes, you will get killed.
2) In EVE, life is easy. CONCORD is flawless, 100% efficient. Crime is severely punished. Offenders have no access to market hubs (with that char at least). Hell, you can track them down and kill them, and CONCORD will back you up on this (by not killing you...) . Don't like what Goons do? Grab a gank ship, patrol their supply lines to Deklein, kill everything that moves (is all theirs or blues to them, make no distintion), ransom them, scorn at them, smack them. Get payback. They may laugh at your futile attempts, but from you part you will have experienced the TRUE side of EvE: the freedom to do whatever you want (except visit Jove space and gank some devs on their market hubs)
3) Gallentes-what? They are french. Even then, plot-wise, this is completely plausible. TCF gave Deklein to Goons, TCF also gave their connection in the Gallente whatwhat to the Goons, this the Gallente are looking elsewhere. Going deeper in the story, pod pilots are basically inmortal demi-gods, who gives a **** what the french think or care?
I do agree though, that actually paying up the Goons would be stupid... but see? We agree on something. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DZUXQ.jpg[/IMG] |
Rikeka
Eye of God Moon Warriors
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:18:00 -
[256] - Quote
To add, the idea of two servers is stupid.
PVP'ers would be ok, since 0.0 empires have their own industry, would require a lot of work, but is doableish.
Non-pvp'ers would like the idea at first, till their notice their markets are dead, since no one is buying stuff, since the only people dying on their servers are mission runners dying to Angel Extravaganza, and idiots that shoot the station by mistake. Imagine a 0.0 without pvp... imagine the intel channels "Light blues in HED-, people! Dock up and corner the market, before their freighters dock up, fleet up people! We need triple plated Vagas to bump the freighters out of alignment to give our market gurus some time!" [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DZUXQ.jpg[/IMG] |
Jooce McNasty
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:23:00 -
[257] - Quote
supersexysucker wrote:Let the OP have his no pvp flag, however when ticked no pvp, OP can not sell any ore / ice mined during that time period (after all goons are doing market PVP too, and if the OP could mine his ice, and sell it, he would be pvping in the market, and if he could sell it later, he could do massive market pvp, but have been 100% safe) (ha better plan, no pvp market and pvp market, the no pvp market prices would be close to 0isk as no loses would need to be replaced, no fuel would be needed as .4 and below the no pvp flag would not work so op can have his own worthless market!)
So OP can make no money while flagged no pvp, can come back here and cry about it, and we can get another lol thread!
Sounds like a plan?
Along these lines I'm willing on letting him sell his ice that he mined but everything you purchase will have a 100% tax on top of it an everything you sell or isk given to you has a 99% tax on it, restricted to empire, and has a 6 month flag to turn pvp flag on and off I would have no problem letting him be pvp immune. But the costs to flip the flag would be all the isk in your wallet. |
Annie Anomie
Shadows Of The Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:51:00 -
[258] - Quote
Alidar wrote:Why do PvP'ers act like terrorists to others who dislike PvP?
it's unfair, childish, rude, and in reality crimially insane, is this a game or a terrorist training camp?
atleast let us set a PvP status, other games do it, and don't say that makes it less fun, what fun can come from picking on someone who doesn't wish to fight you, bullies the lot of you Pffft....
8/10 |
Hestia Mar
Calmaretto
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 18:56:00 -
[259] - Quote
Rikeka wrote:Hestia Mar wrote:Sarrilai Snipershot wrote:Alidar wrote:luZk wrote:EVE does have two "I dont want to pvp buttons" fyi. One is called cloak and is installed on your ship, the other is called "dock" and is found in your overview in station systems. oh so i am just supposed to run and hide without the ability to do anything at all but sit their and twiddle my thumbs for hours just because some slackers who don't want to earn their isk honestly decide to crowd a system and one shot anyone they can, you people really should be locked up OK, it looks like someone has absolutely no clue as to how this game works, so let me enlighten you a little bit. Eve Online is a PvP game, plain and simple. The moment you hit the "Undock" button on your NeoCom, you are consenting to PvP, even in so called "safe" High-Sec. As the Goons have been proving, the only places that are truly safe are an NPC station or a safe spot with a CovOps Cloak. Now, the way I see it, you have a few options. You can either: A) Quit the game. B) Grow a pair and fight back. C) Move to a different region. D) Find something else to do. Hell, if you have some liquid ISK to invest, start buying the modules they usually use at a low-ish price a few regions away and then bring them in and make some mad cash off the Gooons' suicidal new project. You have all sorts of avenues open to you to get around their ganking and have fun/make money but instead you're here whining and crying cause they blew up your favourite toy. Eve is a very cruel and unforgiving environment. If you're looking for hugs, sunshine, and fields of flowers where everyone gets along, Hello Kitty Island is =========> that-a-way. Look - we need to clear up this "if you undock you consent to PvP" rubbish...it's complete bollocks. Look at real life - when you leave your house, do you 'consent' to being mugged? No you don't , but you do accept that it could happen, but there are deterrents in place to help guard against it happening. I have to ask, where are the actual empire forces in all of this - surely if the Gallente Federation's economy is being manipulated in this fashion, and not to their benefit, they would be doing something about it and not sitting back and allow 'invaders' to come in ruin their empire for them (look at the two most protectionist countries in the real world, China and the US - would they allow this to happen?)...so its not Concord that should be taking action, but the Gallente Navy. But, because the whole game mechanic for these actions is, while not broken, unrealistic, the Goons can do what they want. On top of the post-Incarna Perpetuum effect which severely reduced player numbers, I suspect that there are many 'casual gamers - those who come on to mine and hang out with their corpies (in other words, the silent majority) who will probably think "screw this" as a waste of my monthly subscription. And of course now people are being offered a protection racket to get 'grey' standings with the Goons - who will probably gank them anyway! As for making modules to sell to the Goons - why would I want to help someone screw the game even more? I won't unsubscribe and will do other stuff to fill in my time online - but that means I'm playing someone else's EVE online, not mine. H Nonsense. In real life, when you leave your house, there is a chance you'll get mugged, yes. Hell, there is big chance it will happen while you are in it. So, EVE is very carebearish, since I'd too like to enter your captain's quarters, mug you, take your ISK, kill you while you sleeping, drag your corpse through the catwalk (awesome vid, btw, CCP), tie it to your most expensive ship, and exit the station while I'm listening to The Credence at full volume... Jokes aside, your post sucks: 1) In real life there are consequences? Ok, sorry to burst your bubble, but guess what? Most of the time there are none. Crime pays, bad people get away with pretty much everything they want, politicians lie, innocents die in huge stupid wars, etc. EVE, as hard as it is, is to Switzerland what real life is to Harlem, with you running naked in the street with a huge sign "I hate blacks!" and you spitting by on passerbies. Yes, you will get killed. 2) In EVE, life is easy. CONCORD is flawless, 100% efficient. Crime is severely punished. Offenders have no access to market hubs (with that char at least). Hell, you can track them down and kill them, and CONCORD will back you up on this (by not killing you...) . Don't like what Goons do? Grab a gank ship, patrol their supply lines to Deklein, kill everything that moves (is all theirs or blues to them, make no distintion), ransom them, scorn at them, smack them. Get payback. They may laugh at your futile attempts, but from you part you will have experienced the TRUE side of EvE: the freedom to do whatever you want (except visit Jove space and gank some devs on their market hubs) 3) Gallentes-what? They are french. Even then, plot-wise, this is completely plausible. TCF gave Deklein to Goons, TCF also gave their connection in the Gallente whatwhat to the Goons, this the Gallente are looking elsewhere. Going deeper in the story, pod pilots are basically inmortal demi-gods, who gives a **** what the french think or care? I do agree though, that actually paying up the Goons would be stupid... but see? We agree on something.
While, as I'm English, I do of course agree with your comments about the French...but good grief, you must keep your therapist in overtime everytime he sees you - thanks for the unwanted insight into a particularly dark and sad mind.
You have my deepest sympathy!
H |
Rikeka
Eye of God Moon Warriors
2
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:00:00 -
[260] - Quote
See? You have a sense of humour too.
I like you already. Kiss me. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/DZUXQ.jpg[/IMG] |
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Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
20
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:18:00 -
[261] - Quote
and i think we found who can take over now that Tom Gerard apparently isnt trolling anymore.
10/10 great troll :) |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:23:00 -
[262] - Quote
This thread. |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:25:00 -
[263] - Quote
EnderCapitalG wrote:This thread.
is now about pancakes |
Brynhilda
Massive PVPness S I L E N T.
20
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:31:00 -
[264] - Quote
Dyner wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:This thread. is now about pancakes
Pancakes are yum. |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
363
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:35:00 -
[265] - Quote
Nothing wrong with the PVP mechanic in this game. The only problem is EVE is the last resort for the asshats that have been banned from every other MMO out there.
Sadly, it will never live up to it's potential because of this. Right now it's more dickwad online than the future sim it was originally conceived as.
But whatever. I'll still keep playing.
Mr Epeen If you can read this, you haven't blocked me yet. |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
5
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:39:00 -
[266] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Alidar wrote: actually all i'm stating is that pvpers act like paranoid dillusional psychotics
Tell us some more about these 3000 "DDoS attacks" and how you created EvE beta.
i didn't create it, i participated, in which my feedback and that of many others helped make most of the game what it was at launch |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:40:00 -
[267] - Quote
Just noticed that the OP has been deleted as well as the thread title changed.
How long until he edits all of his posts? |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:41:00 -
[268] - Quote
Just went through the first few pages, he's already doing it.
Time to grab a google cached copy or hope that eve-search keeps the old posts? |
Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
20
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:45:00 -
[269] - Quote
EnderCapitalG wrote:Just went through the first few pages, he's already doing it.
Time to grab a google cached copy or hope that eve-search keeps the old posts?
ahh there went my respect for the guy.
looked like a quality troll before that. |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
83
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:46:00 -
[270] - Quote
Linda Shadowborn wrote:and i think we found who can take over now that Tom Gerard apparently isnt trolling anymore.
10/10 great troll :)
Such a troll he's deleting responses. Nope, this is someone getting embarrassed on the internets and screaming "OMG I TROLLED YOU LOL" in a vain attempt to cover it up. Same as about 80% of so called trolls.
EnderCapitalG wrote:Just went through the first few pages, he's already doing it.
Time to grab a google cached copy or hope that eve-search keeps the old posts?
That is precisely why I always quote what I am responding to. |
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boseo
Azure Horizon
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:49:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:Just went through the first few pages, he's already doing it.
Time to grab a google cached copy or hope that eve-search keeps the old posts?
you are in luck as they do keep the old posts on eve-search.
Sorry but file Gǣforumsig.GIFGǥ is currently unavailable please come back laterGǪGǪ like in a year or so.
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Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:52:00 -
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boseo wrote:EnderCapitalG wrote:Just went through the first few pages, he's already doing it.
Time to grab a google cached copy or hope that eve-search keeps the old posts? you are in luck as they do keep the old posts on eve-search.
lol, poor sob. Lost the fight (trolling or serious) and now has to backpedal more than a politician |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
5
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:53:00 -
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not covering up, just want ccp to delete this because it got out of hand because people took this too personally, and I don't see the point of it any more, obviously it served no useful purpose so why bother even keeping any of it, i'ld delete the entire thing if i was able, since it was a monster i created, so i should be the one to kill it |
Dyner
Midgard Protectorate
0
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:54:00 -
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Alidar wrote:not covering up, just want ccp to delete this because it got out of hand because people took this too personally, and don't see the point of it any more
It had a point? |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:55:00 -
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Alidar wrote:not covering up, just want ccp to delete this because it got out of hand because people took this too personally, and don't see the point of it any more
People took it too personally?
Coming from the person who accused gankers of being literally osama and should be killed just as he was?
Oh boy. |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
124
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:55:00 -
[276] - Quote
No really, it's everyone else's fault but mine! |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
5
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Posted - 2011.10.09 19:57:00 -
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EnderCapitalG wrote:No really, it's everyone else's fault but mine!
umm no i already said it was mine for even bothering to voice an opinion |
Alidar
The Mad Scientists BRABODEN
5
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:03:00 -
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Dyner wrote:Alidar wrote: don't see the point of it any more It had a point?
at the time i thought so, but after thinking more about it, i guess not |
Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
84
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:09:00 -
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Alidar wrote:Dyner wrote:Alidar wrote: don't see the point of it any more It had a point? at the time i thought so, but after thinking more about it, i guess not
Relevant. (This is CCP)
Maybe watching this will help you take the first step on the path to understanding EVE and how the devs want it? |
Cherry Nobyl
Shadow Strike Syndicate
7
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:11:00 -
[280] - Quote
couple thoughts:
if all you use is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
diversification is a key to eve.
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Akirei Scytale
Test Alliance Please Ignore
84
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:13:00 -
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Cherry Nobyl wrote:couple thoughts:
if all you use is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
diversification is a key to eve.
Did somebody say hammer? (movie fight scene, don't watch if you don't like them) |
EnderCapitalG
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
126
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:43:00 -
[282] - Quote
Well guys, it was a good run. |
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CCP Zymurgist
C C P C C P Alliance
181
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Posted - 2011.10.09 20:46:00 -
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Thread locked by request. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us at http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx |
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