Leaving Eve with all my 4 accounts after being bumped 400km off the gate and ransommed to pay billions. I refuse and selfdestruct not giving the pleasure to them to kill me.

I spent around 40-50 minutes to be able to align even used an alt with webs but did not work. I am not asking for compensation ccp. I am out.

Well done.

It isn't really hard, but I think there are customers that you can lose in a good way and there's customers that you can lose in a bad way. If people come in and fundamentally don't like EVE Online, then I think that might be a good way of losing customers. EVE isn't for everyone. I wish it was, but the reality is that there are some people who just enjoy playing another game more. And that's not really that bad.
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I think we're just getting closer and closer to a place where the people we lose are people that it's okay to lose.

If you hadn't gone AFK, it wouldn't have happened to you in the first place.

Can i haz ur stuffs?

Funny how you are not comprehanding. I have been playing since Feb.2010 and have 90m SP on my pvp toon. All homegrown. Loss over tens of billions of a lot of stuff.

This, this is not a cool loss. Not fun(I'm a gamer, I must have fun and enjoy gaming) I respect dieing. But not this.

Leaving Eve with all my 4 accounts after being bumped 400km off the gate and ransommed to pay billions. I refuse and selfdestruct not giving the pleasure to them to kill me.

I spent around 40-50 minutes to be able to align even used an alt with webs but did not work. I am not asking for compensation ccp. I am out.

Well done.

Funny how you are not comprehanding. I have been playing since Feb.2010 and have 90m SP on my pvp toon. All homegrown. Loss over tens of billions of a lot of stuff.

This, this is not a cool loss. Not fun(I'm a gamer, I must have fun and enjoy gaming) I respect dieing. But not this.

Totally agree with you. The failure to stop the abuse of bumping is ridiculous, and is being utilized by the CODE folks to imprison freighters on a daily basis. This is just screaming out for a fix.

Can i haz ur stuffs?

This is just screaming out for a fix.

The fixes exist already in the form of tools, good fitting/flying techniques, and last but certainly not least: make friends in this multiplayer game to help each other counter your obstacles.

So you download a game and it doesnt work right until you make friends?
Yea....that makes a lot of sense.

Also wanted to comment on this. You blew up someone's expensive ship and caused him to abandon his assets and leave the game. Obviously he is quite upset. Instead of just taking your win and moving on, you come here to rub it in, and try to make him angrier so you can get a further emotional reaction. This kind of "tear harvesting" has no place in the game, and is completely reprehensible. Grow up.

Leaving Eve with all my 4 accounts after being bumped 400km off the gate and ransommed to pay billions. I refuse and selfdestruct not giving the pleasure to them to kill me.

I spent around 40-50 minutes to be able to align even used an alt with webs but did not work. I am not asking for compensation ccp. I am out.

Well done.

MMO's suck until you make friends, because most are basically a team sport

Pretty much the whole point of playing multiplayer games is to find like minded folks, and then stomp all over the opposition. Would you play Counterstrike/COD/MOH solo against a group of friends?

Thankfully in EvE, you don't need friends. You can just get more alts.

Also, there are multiplayer games that can be played 1v1 so the second part of your post is entirely wrong.

I find it strange that people try to make a case for playing without friends.

It really is more FUN to play in a group, design of the game aside.

Any progress on the two freighters you were supposed to kill in my name for your "gank it forward program?" I haven't gotten any Eve mails and am eagerly awaiting. If you need tips on how to gank them, I'm available for consulting, for a fee of course.

Look friends, Beers is growing up and trying to troll.

I'm so proud of him.


(That doing so goes against everything he's been arguing for in two threads for near on a month makes it even more sweet)

Not trolling...just following up on the earlier post promising to blow freighters up because of my posts here. And the failure to respond to my post soon afterward about why such threat was unconvincing and unlikely to be acted on. An apology would be appropriate of course, not that I harbor much hope....

Not trolling...just following up on the earlier post promising to blow freighters up because of my posts here. And the failure to respond to my post soon afterward about why such threat was unconvincing and unlikely to be acted on. An apology would be appropriate of course, not that I harbor much hope....

Instead of just taking your win and moving on, you come here to rub it in, and try to make him angrier so you can get a further emotional reaction.

Also wanted to comment on this. You blew up someone's expensive ship and caused him to abandon his assets and leave the game. Obviously he is quite upset. Instead of just taking your win and moving on, you come here to rub it in, and try to make him angrier so you can get a further emotional reaction. This kind of "tear harvesting" has no place in the game, and is completely reprehensible. Grow up.

How is attempting to make someone feel bad for alleged in-game failures any different from the "Can I have your stuff" post you were railing against earlier this page?




EDIT: So that we're clear. I find nothing wrong with calling out in-game failure. You are the one who laid out standards that you were unable to hold to for a full forum page. (Which goes nicely with your pattern of only calling for civility from those who disagree with you.)

Not similar. Pouring fuel on the fire after you hurt someone, they are upset, and say they are quitting the game is not the same as gently ribbing someone who semi-threatened you after getting mildly annoyed at forum posts, and is not especially upset.

Instead of just taking your win and moving on, you come here to rub it in

Well see there's the problem with your thinking. You quite literally cannot hurt anyone in EVE.

So the two situations are:
1) Gentle ribbing on the forums for an in-game failure
and
2) The exact same thing from someone who said 1) was reprehensible.

Also, since when is promising that you're going to play the game a "threat," semi- or otherwise?

When you thought Leto had failed to fulfill his promise:

Your words, Mr Belvar, not mine, characterize your actions.

Your speech and actions are what matter, not your target's state of mind. Harassment is harassment whether your target is traumatized or tickled.

You certainly can hurt someone psychologically through in game actions.

And harassment does depend on mental state - if you victim would not reasonably feel harassed by the conduct it sure ain't harassment. So yelling at an adult is one thing, yelling at a 4 year old kid quite another, etc...

often seen as an abusive use of the bumping mechanic

Ribbing someone who is clearly distraught and quitting the game is in no way similar to ribibng someone who is mildly annoyed at some forum posts

Ok, don't want to derail this thread - so just a brief response and leave at that.

You certainly can hurt someone psychologically through in game actions. People who invest a lot of time and effort in something are hurt when they lose it, especially to what is often seen as an abusive use of the bumping mechanic. Ribbing someone who is clearly distraught and quitting the game is in no way similar to ribibng someone who is mildly annoyed at some forum posts, and has now threatened to blow up ships in my name. His failing to blow up ships was not a "win" for me. I did not do him any harm in the game, hence I had no "win" to rub in. Not like Cpt Starfox who pinned down a freighter for 50 mins, made a huge ransom demand, and caused the pilot to self destruct, losing billions of isk, and quit the game, as well as destroying all of his remaining assets. Rubbing that in, is just, well, deeply wrong. And harassment does depend on mental state - if you victim would not reasonably feel harassed by the conduct it sure ain't harassment. So yelling at an adult is one thing, yelling at a 4 year old kid quite another, etc...

Veers. No amount of verbal diarrhea is going to make you right. And to be truthful you have shat an epic amount on the forums in the name of those who can't be bothered to make a serious effort to be prepared, wary, and wise.

Ordinarily I'd say of course that an innocent bear shall be murdered in thy name for the your offenses against HTFU... but honestly with the absolute torrent of wrong-mindedness that's been spewed I can't even quantify just how many should be slain to compensate for your relentless assault of wave after wave of drivel.

All your unceasing retaliations against logic serve to accomplish is to bury any sane and rational debate on the relevant issues at hand beneath a multitude of pages of people explaining to you how you are wrong, mixed in with your refusal to accept the realities of New Eden.

For the love of all that is unholy, stop.

continue to feel that the bumping mechanic is being used to wrongfully pin down freighters without appropriate CONCORD response

As far as you lacking the math skills to figure out how many "carebears" to kill in retaliation, how about instead going and finding 20 PVE oriented new players and taking them on some Level 4 missions to show them the ropes? That would be a lot more helpful and friendly than killing people in some pathetic and lame attempt to affect the conscience of someone as wholly unflappable as myself.