Because bumping is not, and never has been a flaggable action, more for practical means than anything else. Jita 4-4 undock with flaggable bumping would become a scrapyard FFA.

in all honesty most of the stations in eve need there docking and undocking range fixed

and bunping itself should be consider harassment since a lot of people have been know to use it without the intent to kill, i would like to see a collision mechanics and input a "timer" for entering exiting warp or station that you don't take damage but make it so you take damage upon in packed.

Easy solution would just be to increase mass of mining barges or enable them to be 'anchored' to asteroids.

This being said I dislike bumping all together as a game mechanic and think it should be removed.

How about bringing mining exhumer and barge HP's down to a sensible level? That way we can forget about this stupid bumping and go back to sucide ganking miners.

Each patch makes this game more like WOW in space but don't worry CCP every step you take away from PVP allows room for another game to fill the void. I hope you are happy when you are left with only high sec bears as they provide zero to the community, fan fest, 3rd party, video content, Dust 315 content. You pandered to the scrubs of eve with the HP buff and it'll catch up with you when the PVP comunity protests at your up coming hauler buff and high sec greif nerf.

CCP this will bite you in the ass real soon, don't even think it's not going to.

I think all of null and low should declare peace for 1 month this summer and declare an unholy war against all of high sec. Huge ganking partys targetting infamous 1+ year pluss npc corp chars, massive market manipulations, Huge PLEX crashes/ Spikes, swamp all hi sec indy slots with 3 month q's.

**** like bumping orcas for 15-30 minutes straight for multiple waves of gank characters is why this game is dying.

Just as this thread is dead for a few weeks someone revives it lol

The game isn't dying(that's just a fallacy that dishonest people use to campaign for bad change), and those people should bring web alts and use scouts.

Hint, if your scout sees two Machariels on a gate, don't jump through it.

Or just design the game so that CONCORD properly responds to criminal activity, which includes unlawful entrapment.

**** like bumping orcas for 15-30 minutes straight for multiple waves of gank characters is why this game is dying.

No, just make it so that once CONCORD arrives on scene the gank victim gets 60 seconds of invulnerability from CONCORD.

1) Crossposting is bad. Crossposting in a necroed thread is worse.

2) You mean incorporeality, since invulnerable things can still get bumped.

The posting to each thread was appropriate to the topic therein. I'm not concerned with the name, the key is that the gank victim be able to escape before the next wave of gankers comes.

That is currently the case.

What you're asking for is that they be automagically entitled to escape, which is different and relies on your false supposition that CONCORD is a police force tasked with enforcing a system of laws that is in any way similar to the extant systems in the real world.

No it isn't....bumping can make it impossible for a freighter to escape. That CONCORD would sit by and allow that is nothing short of absurd.

Yes, if the bumper does his job perfectly, and the freighter pilot does nothing, the freighter will not escape.

CONCORD's only purpose related to this is to punish Criminal Actions in HS. Bumping is not a Criminal Action, regardless of what space it occurs in, so why should CONCORD care?

Once again, you are confusing CONCORD with an RL Police Force and New Edens laws with the laws in your jurisdiction.

No, my point was that if BOTH SIDES act optimally the freighter still cannot escape.

And the point is that whatever the function of CONCORD there is no conceivable way that it would simply sit there and let the freighter be pinned down and then killed.

Wrong.

And I contend that I'm right. I think it's impossible to prove either way without CCP input.



That would be true, if and only If either CONCORD had an investigative role like RL Police do, or bumping were a Criminal Action in EVE. Neither of those are true.

Again, CONCORD's role is not and never has been to protect the victim. CONCORD's role is solely to punish any Criminal Actions in HS.

The reason we're going round and round is because we both have different assumptions about CONCORD's role in EVE. My assumptions are based off of current game mechanics and various statements made by CCP employees (Devs and GMs). How did you come up with your assumptions?

I quoted CCP Falcon, who directly analogized CONCORD to a law enforcement agency. I pointed out the absurdity of the current situation, and I proposed a workable solution. But again, I'm not really look to convince the gankers on this thread of my ideas, it is much more for the benefit of CCP. As I've quoted before "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

CONCORD offer a level of deterrent just the same as any law enforcement agency, but as with any police for they're reactive and punitive rather than proactive.

"Like" a law enforcement agency, not "the same as"
"Reactive and punitive" not "proactive"

Helping someone in between ganking runs is *proactive*

Intervening when bumping is used as a form of false imprisonment between ganks is "reactive" not "proactive"

Intervening in something that isn't a crime tends to, itself, be a crime.

Bumping is not and has never been a criminal action in New Eden, regardless of circumstance.