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Laurelin1420	Posted - 2006.01.20 20:26:00 - [1711] Once again.....this is NOT a discussion thread. You have a Corporation and Alliance forum for that. Thanks forum rules \| [email protected]

Gypsy Djinn	Posted - 2006.01.20 22:23:00 - [1712] Originally by: Raid Originally by: Archonon Originally by: Raid Map illustrates that RA does not control the region. It is not contested between any two factions but multiple factions within the region. You have no control over the region, neither do we or anyone else. Thats what the map illustrates. U can't contested something u're not defending, u avoid any fight u're not a contested faction neither than the others corp docked in Curse. Again been docked in doril doesn't mean u contested something. Your missing the point. RA doesnt control curse any more than we do. For your next post how about you just post changes you feel should be made to the map and back it up with some logic rather than "everyone but RA is docked 23/7" because you look stupid when you make stuff up like that. Normally I would be the last person to back up a Tyrell member but in this case, the only fair thing to do is to set the record straight. As far as Tyrell always being docked in Doril, while this may be a funny comment for a normal thread it's just ridicules in this one. Tyrell are very active in the region and fight daily with us, and now the Battle Angels that were hired by ISS for protection (from both of our groups). While we are allies of RA in this confrontation in the south against the same enemies, RA does not have forces in number in the curse area marked as contested with CC on the map. RA has their hands full elsewhere as is well documented in this thread and we have no problem with the current battlefields being drawn as such but if anything the map should show CC vs VIRII in that area as, in my estimation VIRII fights CC more then RA fights them and kills and loses for all combatants would reflect that, but thats neither here nor there, the fact is that CC is an active entity in the area and should be shown as such until such time that VIRII completes running them out of the region (sorry had to toss that jab in Raid, was being way to cordial and we can't have that, people will start to talk... ) V I R I I HeadQuarters http://virii.homeip.net V I R I I - We Are Here For Your Daughters
Raeff	Posted - 2006.01.20 22:24:00 - [1713] venal = contested not much discussion to it tbh
oidalia	Posted - 2006.01.20 22:59:00 - [1714] giving Venal to 5 is redicilous, thats like G/Iron would have gotten the whole area of ASCN/SA space when they owned C9N/AZN. Sometimes u should at least think a bit about what u change and get some informations before u do major mistakes like this one because stuff like that makes the map totaly meaningless.
Angry Dan	Posted - 2006.01.20 23:55:00 - [1715] Huzzah Federation now hold 2 stations in Catch. V2VC2 has been held for a few weeks now, and 5-N2EY fell to us alst night. Allied forces of Huzzah Federation, Kaos Empire and Stain Alliance are engaged all over Catch now, as well as mounting regular raids into FiX territory. Notice I said raids, not invasion. Pirates have started to make regular raids in lower Providence since the start of the war.Even though they had been camping the Hed-GP pipe for some time prior to this, and are for the most part ex FiX corps, there sudden appearance is totally unconnected with the FiX war. It must be a coincidence that they suddenly started jumping into Providence instead of catch. So, in summary, Catch is now totally contested. Pirate activity in lower Providence has dramatically increased, and so a pirate infestation marker is probably warranted around Hed-GP/lower Providence. ++++++++++++++++++++ Founder member of the Huzzah Federation. Remember, the grass is greener on our side of the fence Widowmakers director Fear my kneepads of allure!
Riley Craven	Posted - 2006.01.21 15:16:00 - [1716] Mr map maker. I would like to add my two cents. While this would overcomplicate the map hugely, claims should really be done by solarsytems and then have an overreaching claim. For exmaples ISS owns a number of systems in the querious region but they dont get credit for that. Secondly, your map seems to be done by entire regions. In practice an allaince could actaully only hold half of the region and not contest the other half. Just my ideas
Edoo	Posted - 2006.01.21 15:35:00 - [1717] Originally by: Riley Craven Mr map maker. I would like to add my two cents. While this would overcomplicate the map hugely, claims should really be done by solarsytems and then have an overreaching claim. For exmaples ISS owns a number of systems in the querious region but they dont get credit for that. Secondly, your map seems to be done by entire regions. In practice an allaince could actaully only hold half of the region and not contest the other half. Just my ideas Agreed. Northern Venal is totally PA, southern is contested. JF you are a fool for believing the propaganda
Ituralde	Posted - 2006.01.22 00:26:00 - [1718] Reccomend syndicate for a multi-factional warzone thing? Also would it be too much of a pain to put down alliance blocks or parties in major wars going on? I think it might add more information for those who are not familiar with all of alliance politics going on and who is fighting who, and who is buddy-buddy with who. Just random two cents.
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.01.22 01:09:00 - [1719] Bottommost Vale and Geminate deserve a warzone marker - F-E is going to be taking part in the three+ way bout down there, and LS-JEP station was just taken. Between who and who, I'm not sure... you should check out the thread
VantDre	Posted - 2006.01.22 11:15:00 - [1720] Go easy on him guys, afterall he is responsible for alot of information that might not be given accurately depending on swift ownership changes. Making solar system representations would require a much larger map and would be harder to precieve direct alliance growth. I'd like to ask that venal is changed to contested aswell like my PA fellows. One among many resisting ATUK in HPA and surrounding systems.
G'ulSera	Posted - 2006.01.22 13:43:00 - [1721] Originally by: Ituralde Reccomend syndicate for a multi-factional warzone thing? Also would it be too much of a pain to put down alliance blocks or parties in major wars going on? I think it might add more information for those who are not familiar with all of alliance politics going on and who is fighting who, and who is buddy-buddy with who. Just random two cents. You can check the diplomacy table for that... For Blood and Honour The difference between a killer and a soldier is a question of loyalty
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.01.22 17:06:00 - [1722] Edited by: Rover Vitesse on 22/01/2006 17:06:31 Wicked Creek is now a warzone between -LV-/KOS/CHIMP and RA/FFA. Chimaera Pact Minister For Propaganda Rovers Chronicles
MakkAnzy	Posted - 2006.01.22 23:24:00 - [1723] You should just put all of space under The Five and be done with it, Venal under The Five is a farce they have never been sucessfull getting themselves out of one system. To that I claim all of empire!
Ichabod Crane	Posted - 2006.01.23 00:52:00 - [1724] Originally by: Ituralde Reccomend syndicate for a multi-factional warzone thing? Also would it be too much of a pain to put down alliance blocks or parties in major wars going on? I think it might add more information for those who are not familiar with all of alliance politics going on and who is fighting who, and who is buddy-buddy with who. Just random two cents. Problem with Syndicate is it isnt really a warzone that could be considered contested, its more of an intergalactic free for all. There are only two or three areas that are actually claimed by anyone and the bits in between is open space, hence the reason why it doesnt have a marker... same as northern Pure Blind. But... then this thread isnt for a discussion right? LFC is Recruiting!
Darkrydar	Posted - 2006.01.23 01:26:00 - [1725] PA and NBSI are much like FA in its dying days. They can't bring it ingame, so they attack the map maker.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.01.23 03:21:00 - [1726] Originally by: Darkrydar PA and NBSI are much like FA in its dying days. They can't bring it ingame, so they attack the map maker. BTW i didn t attack the map Maker if u hold venal that mean V C hold Fountain Simple can we agree that we was in h-pa and yes the lag was terrible we lost 1 POS but was 24hrs we was trying to get in. So if u hold Venal then Fountain is to Vertigo Coalition ty Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
Vina	Posted - 2006.01.23 09:01:00 - [1727] You lost 1 large POS and 21 battleships. We lost a stilleto and rifter. The skill difference between us pacifica... it means something too. Not to mention you guys just logoff now if you even see us in local in 6NJ or Y-4. ----------------------------------- btw, threatening to close 1 account really hurt my eyes. - xaioguai
spookz	Posted - 2006.01.23 11:09:00 - [1728] This is why we lost 21 BS. Join FCON
Hoshi	Posted - 2006.01.23 11:13:00 - [1729] Originally by: Vina You lost 1 large POS and 21 battleships. We lost a stilleto and rifter. The skill difference between us pacifica... it means something too. Not to mention you guys just logoff now if you even see us in local in 6NJ or Y-4. Since when is control of a region decided by losses? In that case I guess G should be given control of all ascn space on default even if they are not where anymore. I still say we need to get clear definitions posted about what it takes to control a region. Similar to the one Joshua has on contesting regions.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.23 11:41:00 - [1730] Originally by: Hoshi Since when is control of a region decided by losses? In that case I guess G should be given control of all ascn space on default even if they are not where anymore. I still say we need to get clear definitions posted about what it takes to control a region. Similar to the one Joshua has on contesting regions. try: Control descriptions ATUK/.5. have shown a clear military dominance in the area for an extended period of time (and we're talking months here). This has been confirmed by entities hostile to us, and even some PA. We patiently waited recognition of this fact, despite it being obvious to anyone that cared by the area (which largely doesnt include PA) from the earliest engagements of the campaign. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
Hoshi	Posted - 2006.01.23 14:35:00 - [1731] Originally by: thoth foc try: Control descriptions ATUK/.5. have shown a clear military dominance in the area for an extended period of time (and we're talking months here). This has been confirmed by entities hostile to us, and even some PA. We patiently waited recognition of this fact, despite it being obvious to anyone that cared by the area (which largely doesnt include PA) from the earliest engagements of the campaign. That's NOT control descriptions but contesting descriptions, these are 2 VERY different things. I don't care about venal, what I do care about is people (5 being one of the most notorious but are far from alone) claiming and being given control on map over region which they have no real in game control over what so ever. This is why I again call for clear rules of what it takes to claim control over a region, specialy npc regions.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.01.23 15:13:00 - [1732] Originally by: Vina You lost 1 large POS and 21 battleships. We lost a stilleto and rifter. The skill difference between us pacifica... it means something too. Not to mention you guys just logoff now if you even see us in local in 6NJ or Y-4. Your Ego is so Big Look i can say ATUK do the same when u know at 90% that your winning chance is 0 then better log Off Exemple dear Atuk : 5 hac enter 1 system (Atuk) 1 lonely BS ins system. Persone go SS it normal then u smack her we enter same system u guys run to SS and log Off. But us we can t smack cause u are Uber. Right hand off Atuk leader need to teach is mate that telling ppl to cancel subscription is bad. in local a lot of Atuk member do that. calling name treating ppl real life in smack you guys loose control of your smack machine. i don t care about smack but when it it personel thing it hard u don t take it as a game any more dear Atuk or Five. all the corp in The Five live in the shadow Of ATUK. Over and Out i hope 1 day the ATUK leader teach is smack machine to get real. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.23 15:20:00 - [1733] Originally by: Hoshi I don't care about venal, what I do care about is people (5 being one of the most notorious but are far from alone) claiming and being given control on map over region which they have no real in game control over what so ever. why do you care about us? if you have no concerns in the area, why infer you have any knowledge of the current situation here? --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA
DJTheBaron	Posted - 2006.01.23 15:21:00 - [1734] /me smacks & flames seriousily, theres a reason why you peole dont post your losses, it would be embarasing to look at your wn killboards __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.
Br0dY	Posted - 2006.01.23 15:33:00 - [1735] IMO it is your own fault that Venal has been designated under our control. The mapmaker did announce in his previus update, that he'd be scouting the area and u did nothing until FE broke your pact to defend any system in Venal. Since then even your futile attempts have been dealt with and tbh, PA should cease and decease. Venal is under the Five's control.
pacifica	Posted - 2006.01.23 15:55:00 - [1736] Ok u see now. Atuk response. Look at the video u will see what i say. we post our lost u guys forget your lost too so no big deal. answer us ATUK own H-PA with the lag advantage. Get real we did go their we did fight the lag we did target the space. For FE the communication was not good the organization wasn t be able to be make So the Thing betown FE and US stay with us. ATM i m glad to fight u or at lease to try to fight U before u log OFF For the MAP Venal is a contess region u Can get a region by 1 system. If SO GIVE FOUNTAIN TO VC. they have POS in Fountain BOB have none. Venal is contested by PA,RISK,ATUK and all the ppl that want to try their Mark in 0.0 space It simple. ATUK own nothing just a contested Space ATM. Respect and Honor is the way to go in the game.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.01.23 16:25:00 - [1737] Edited by: DB Preacher on 23/01/2006 16:31:39 Originally by: pacifica For the MAP Venal is a contess region u Can get a region by 1 system. If SO GIVE FOUNTAIN TO VC. they have POS in Fountain BOB have none. Please leave Fountain out of your dialogue in this thread. As VC have consistently stated, they have no desire to control Fountain. Oh and we do have POS in fountain. You lost Venal, good luck getting it back, I don't imagine for a second you will be too successful if 5 decide to remain there. However, next time you are going to attempt to use a completely different situation to reflect your own, at least make some attempt to get the facts correct. Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (CAL6) Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
thoth foc	Posted - 2006.01.23 17:20:00 - [1738] Originally by: pacifica ATM i m glad to fight u or at lease to try to fight U before u log OFF ... Venal is contested by PA,RISK,ATUK and all the ppl that want to try their Mark in 0.0 space Firstly RISK have never indicated they wish to be involved in contesting Venal unless you are now a RISK spokesperson? Secondly as F-E have testified, .5. have been involved in defending our region daily for weeks. If you claimed this region why was it F-E fighting for it and not you? If PA decide to contest the region ingame, the results will be self evident. So lets leave this discussion to ingame (for guns) and if PA have significant results to prove they are at least trying to fight us, by the next map update, then i have no doubt Joshua will consider your claims. --thoth [5], ex-Curse Alliance ex-DSMA

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.01.23 17:56:00 - [1739] Reopened. 5 and PA are having issues with Venal, that much is clear. Pick ONE person to post about it from either side, and stick to that. There will not be arguing in this thread. Be polite, respectful, or don't post. --- forum rules \| [email protected] I ♥ You.... ¬ Shepherd of the [23]

John Blackthorn	Posted - 2006.01.23 18:44:00 - [1740] Stella Nova United is located in the lower Gemni region from Atioth to ov-pb. We have been there in some form or another for 6-8 months. We had a nap with f-e at the time. SNU is now at war with f-e over a dispute on who we should be shooting in Gemni. SNU is naped with 4S corp (and there new alliance), Big Blue, Red Alliance, PA, NBSI and several other smaller but good friends. 4S seem to reside in the Vale of Silent area and are in a very hostile area but seem to be making good process against f-e :) Big Blue holds a Neutrality agreement with most groups and they are trying to be respectfull of the area that they hold on the West side of Gemni off the BWF gate. Force Of Evil are also in the Gemni region and are currently kos to basicly everyone. But they do mange to put some fleet action in the area as well. So it's an nice 4 way battle with 1 neutral enity in the area. I imagine this will be a long term conflict for all sides. Regards, John Blackthorn Stella Nova United

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