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 MIstress Saki    |
Posted - 2005.07.21 21:36:00 -
[331] A Tech II Battle Cruiser (Amarr). Where I can fit a full range of Tech II Heavy Beams without problems. or A Tech II "bird of pray" "submarine" Battle Cruiser spez. in claoking |
 MIstress Saki |
Posted - 2005.07.21 21:36:00 -
[332] A Tech II Battle Cruiser (Amarr). Where I can fit a full range of Tech II Heavy Beams without problems. or A Tech II "bird of pray" "submarine" Battle Cruiser spez. in claoking |
 Jester87 |
Posted - 2005.07.21 22:01:00 -
[333] Edited by: Jester87 on 21/07/2005 22:03:38 I would like to see the Deadalus from Stargate... Thing is awesome. Plus it uses rail guns and stuff... which is sorta realistic. of course a Star Destroyer, or a Mon-Calmarian Cruiser would be nice too... Best bet, is the Death-Star tho.. 1 Shot to blow up any ship ;) |
 Jester87 D00M. Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2005.07.21 22:01:00 -
[334] Edited by: Jester87 on 21/07/2005 22:03:38 I would like to see the Deadalus from Stargate... Thing is awesome. Plus it uses rail guns and stuff... which is sorta realistic. of course a Star Destroyer, or a Mon-Calmarian Cruiser would be nice too... Best bet, is the Death-Star tho.. 1 Shot to blow up any ship ;) |
 willows |
Posted - 2005.07.21 22:44:00 -
[335] Transwarp prior to ST:TNG is unscaleable as in ST:3 they used a warp scale that went upto 12. And all sucsesfull transwarp's have been on the later TNG scale that goes to 10. Warp 10 is the point where the reach the destination anywhere in the galaxy almost the moment they leave and sofar only entitys like Q have demonstrated this. this is more like a long range transporter than warpdrive and as such the first atempt at it was infact in a recent ST:Enterprise episode. Transwarp however is the point of warp between 9.99 to warp 9.99.99. Borg use a coil to acheive the lower ends of this. but as seen in VOY: endgame use a transwarphub to reach the higher ends. |
 willows |
Posted - 2005.07.21 22:44:00 -
[336] Transwarp prior to ST:TNG is unscaleable as in ST:3 they used a warp scale that went upto 12. And all sucsesfull transwarp's have been on the later TNG scale that goes to 10. Warp 10 is the point where the reach the destination anywhere in the galaxy almost the moment they leave and sofar only entitys like Q have demonstrated this. this is more like a long range transporter than warpdrive and as such the first atempt at it was infact in a recent ST:Enterprise episode. Transwarp however is the point of warp between 9.99 to warp 9.99.99. Borg use a coil to acheive the lower ends of this. but as seen in VOY: endgame use a transwarphub to reach the higher ends. |
 Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:02:00 -
[337]
well, Quantum Slipstream is another area where things become sticky, as itÆs merely a means of ôpressingö a slipstream around the ship thatÆs more effective than the alternative multiple layers of ôwarp fieldö around the ship, 1 layer for each factor of warp speed. Trek Tech a means of Quantum Slipstream is ôbetterö than the current methods of pushing the warp factors harder (which according to the story were eventually limited except for emergencies to prevent subspace damage to the space being traveled through) and reaching into the sub-factors of warp 9à such as 9.975 being ôwide openö top speed for most of the fastest Federation shipsÆ capabilities. Quantum Slipstream provides a much more efficient subspace barrier between the ship and the space it is flying through at ludicrous speed. However the BorgÆs example of a transwarp answer as mentioned before was to effectively ôgateö their way across space. ItÆs sort of the idea of, going faster will take you less time to arrive, or if you simply make the destination effectively ôcloserö then the trip distance isnÆt as profound so effectively you get there faster. ItÆs sort of ôtrans warpö in multiple different flavors with different methods to get the same result. At the end of the day, Quantum Slipstream is actually only an extension of conventional warp drive speeds, itÆs questionable to how the chart should then look factoring in a more efficient and thus faster speed of warping when there is also an alternative means of effectively equal speed that circumvents ôdistance over timeö by making the distance effectively less so the time needed to cross it is thus less resulting in a ôdistance traveled in an amount of timeö result comparable to a speed, even if little if any speed was involvedà Once it gets to 8 and 9, the ôentryö afterward is debatable then as to whether to call it ôtranswarp Iö or ôwarp 10ö, and beyond that, further factors are again questionable as either ôtranswarp IIö or ôwarp 11ö. Since quantum slipstream is not conventional warp speed, and it is beyond the warp 9 to warp 10 barrier, itÆs technically correct to call it ôtranswarpö, but since it uses basically conventional warp with very un-conventional ôwarp fieldö technology, the hair may need to be split and possibly a separate chart for ôgenuineö transwarp that uses a non-slipstream methodology, and a second chart for ôslipstreamö factors of warp. Perhaps the slipstream warp factor chart would read, ôwarp 9, 10, 11, etcö, and the transwarp propulsion chart would read ôwarp 8, 9 : Transwarp I, Transwarp IIö ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
 Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:02:00 -
[338]
well, Quantum Slipstream is another area where things become sticky, as itÆs merely a means of ôpressingö a slipstream around the ship thatÆs more effective than the alternative multiple layers of ôwarp fieldö around the ship, 1 layer for each factor of warp speed. Trek Tech a means of Quantum Slipstream is ôbetterö than the current methods of pushing the warp factors harder (which according to the story were eventually limited except for emergencies to prevent subspace damage to the space being traveled through) and reaching into the sub-factors of warp 9à such as 9.975 being ôwide openö top speed for most of the fastest Federation shipsÆ capabilities. Quantum Slipstream provides a much more efficient subspace barrier between the ship and the space it is flying through at ludicrous speed. However the BorgÆs example of a transwarp answer as mentioned before was to effectively ôgateö their way across space. ItÆs sort of the idea of, going faster will take you less time to arrive, or if you simply make the destination effectively ôcloserö then the trip distance isnÆt as profound so effectively you get there faster. ItÆs sort of ôtrans warpö in multiple different flavors with different methods to get the same result. At the end of the day, Quantum Slipstream is actually only an extension of conventional warp drive speeds, itÆs questionable to how the chart should then look factoring in a more efficient and thus faster speed of warping when there is also an alternative means of effectively equal speed that circumvents ôdistance over timeö by making the distance effectively less so the time needed to cross it is thus less resulting in a ôdistance traveled in an amount of timeö result comparable to a speed, even if little if any speed was involvedà Once it gets to 8 and 9, the ôentryö afterward is debatable then as to whether to call it ôtranswarp Iö or ôwarp 10ö, and beyond that, further factors are again questionable as either ôtranswarp IIö or ôwarp 11ö. Since quantum slipstream is not conventional warp speed, and it is beyond the warp 9 to warp 10 barrier, itÆs technically correct to call it ôtranswarpö, but since it uses basically conventional warp with very un-conventional ôwarp fieldö technology, the hair may need to be split and possibly a separate chart for ôgenuineö transwarp that uses a non-slipstream methodology, and a second chart for ôslipstreamö factors of warp. Perhaps the slipstream warp factor chart would read, ôwarp 9, 10, 11, etcö, and the transwarp propulsion chart would read ôwarp 8, 9 : Transwarp I, Transwarp IIö ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
 Hllaxiu |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:26:00 -
[339]
I'm sorry, but retcons for the worst voyager episode are simply not acceptable. Its far better to say that that episode doesn't exist and just go on your merry way with your "warp 13" speeds in "All good things..." and your transwarp tunnels of the last episode of Voyager. Oh, and I stick by my prior "Hydrans ftw" statement. |
 Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:26:00 -
[340]
I'm sorry, but retcons for the worst voyager episode are simply not acceptable. Its far better to say that that episode doesn't exist and just go on your merry way with your "warp 13" speeds in "All good things..." and your transwarp tunnels of the last episode of Voyager. Oh, and I stick by my prior "Hydrans ftw" statement. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
 Lucian Alucard |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:40:00 -
[341] Martok's Negh' Var- 50% more fire then a Sovreign,Cloaking capability,tho significantly slower (only warp 8.5),Ion pulse cannon (drops sheilds to 50% in one shot due to it being a spin off of Been technology) Osiris- From Freelancer,Rheinland damage mixed with the speed and tech systems of Liberty and it can cloak!!! A Thrasher or Munin that can fit a full rack of T2 720MM Artys. and still be able to fit a good set up. Undisputed Lord Of The Forums!!! The best joke ever!!!! http://www.livejournal.com/users/sweet__kitty/40953.html?mode=reply |
 Lucian Alucard Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:40:00 -
[342] Martok's Negh' Var- 50% more fire then a Sovreign,Cloaking capability,tho significantly slower (only warp 8.5),Ion pulse cannon (drops sheilds to 50% in one shot due to it being a spin off of Been technology) Osiris- From Freelancer,Rheinland damage mixed with the speed and tech systems of Liberty and it can cloak!!! A Thrasher or Munin that can fit a full rack of T2 720MM Artys. and still be able to fit a good set up. |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.22 02:32:00 -
[343]
lol well, I didn't say I liked Voyager (to say I only despised it is far too weak a term to describe it properly) but sadly, it's canon. Just as much as many people would like to have had "Star Wars - George Lucas = Happy Fans" for Episode 1 and 2, sadly, it's not the case, and now we all have to live with the consequencesà If there is one thing we can count on though is inconsistency in Sci-Fi, so as long as Paramount is in it for the money (i.e. until space stops being dark) they will happily grind Star Trek into the ground one TV series at a time and with as many movies as there is celluloid to print them on. ItÆs only a matter of time till they step back and re-work their canon again to fit into a new set of rules they are writing as they go. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.22 02:32:00 -
[344]
lol well, I didn't say I liked Voyager (to say I only despised it is far too weak a term to describe it properly) but sadly, it's canon. Just as much as many people would like to have had "Star Wars - George Lucas = Happy Fans" for Episode 1 and 2, sadly, it's not the case, and now we all have to live with the consequencesà If there is one thing we can count on though is inconsistency in Sci-Fi, so as long as Paramount is in it for the money (i.e. until space stops being dark) they will happily grind Star Trek into the ground one TV series at a time and with as many movies as there is celluloid to print them on. ItÆs only a matter of time till they step back and re-work their canon again to fit into a new set of rules they are writing as they go. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Jokastis |
Posted - 2005.07.22 03:06:00 -
[345] ok, simple enough  I would want my dream ship to be able to use all of the slots in the fittings display. Hi:8 (8 Turret / 8 Missle slots) Med:8 Low:8 With enough powergrid and cpu to fit 8 guns or missles of my choice. And a capacitor that would support a shield and armor tank indefinitely. And a good tank at that, with resistances sitting at around 80% or above. That would be great  Can it be done by next Tuesday? |
 Jokastis |
Posted - 2005.07.22 03:06:00 -
[346] ok, simple enough I would want my dream ship to be able to use all of the slots in the fittings display. Hi:8 (8 Turret / 8 Missle slots) Med:8 Low:8 With enough powergrid and cpu to fit 8 guns or missles of my choice. And a capacitor that would support a shield and armor tank indefinitely. And a good tank at that, with resistances sitting at around 80% or above. That would be great Can it be done by next Tuesday? |
Pointless Vengence |
Posted - 2005.07.22 04:49:00 -
[347] For you Trekies: Coaxial Warp Drive . . .Discuss . .. enjoy For the rest of ya: I'd love to fly the "Black Hole Bomb" ship from Gunbuster (old school Manga) . . . Basically Jupiter is compressed to 1/30,000 its size into a ship which then can use it to form a black hole. What would I do with the ship? Black mail all of Eve's governments of course . . .  |
 Pointless Vengence |
Posted - 2005.07.22 04:49:00 -
[348] For you Trekies: Coaxial Warp Drive . . .Discuss . .. enjoy For the rest of ya: I'd love to fly the "Black Hole Bomb" ship from Gunbuster (old school Manga) . . . Basically Jupiter is compressed to 1/30,000 its size into a ship which then can use it to form a black hole. What would I do with the ship? Black mail all of Eve's governments of course . . . |
 Darlan Flame |
Posted - 2005.07.22 05:15:00 -
[349] Well if you follow the 1-10 warp drive warp scale where warp 10 is infinity, a number impossible to go higher than, you realize that every time someone in star trek went past warp 10, it was a lousy writer trying to impress us with bigger numbers, as they were too lazy to follow their own mythos strictly. How do you go past warp 10? Well first you flunk out of community college... |
 Darlan Flame GoonFleet |
Posted - 2005.07.22 05:15:00 -
[350] Well if you follow the 1-10 warp drive warp scale where warp 10 is infinity, a number impossible to go higher than, you realize that every time someone in star trek went past warp 10, it was a lousy writer trying to impress us with bigger numbers, as they were too lazy to follow their own mythos strictly. How do you go past warp 10? Well first you flunk out of community college... |
 Kyrie Allayson |
Posted - 2005.07.22 06:46:00 -
[351] Victory class destroyer from B5 :) Victory |
 Kyrie Allayson 0utbreak |
Posted - 2005.07.22 06:46:00 -
[352] Victory class destroyer from B5 :) Victory |
willows |
Posted - 2005.07.22 10:48:00 -
[353]
Unfortunatly this is true. i blame Rick Berman for most of these plot clashes with most Startech. Warp 10 is instant arival anywhere as soon as you leave. no matter the distance between point a and b. Now this is as far as i know never been said in a episode but on that theory warp10+ would infact be time travel. As it would require you to arive before you leave. |
willows |
Posted - 2005.07.22 10:48:00 -
[354]
Unfortunatly this is true. i blame Rick Berman for most of these plot clashes with most Startech. Warp 10 is instant arival anywhere as soon as you leave. no matter the distance between point a and b. Now this is as far as i know never been said in a episode but on that theory warp10+ would infact be time travel. As it would require you to arive before you leave. |
BLAIYNE |
Posted - 2005.07.22 11:29:00 -
[355]
What, you mean a ship that tries to kill it's crew in various nasty ways, then halfway through a fleet battle warps straight to Hell? Yes...I like it! (As long as I don't have to fly it!) |
 BLAIYNE Shadow Play |
Posted - 2005.07.22 11:29:00 -
[356]
What, you mean a ship that tries to kill it's crew in various nasty ways, then halfway through a fleet battle warps straight to Hell? Yes...I like it! (As long as I don't have to fly it!) |
BLAIYNE |
Posted - 2005.07.22 11:40:00 -
[357] Edited by: BLAIYNE on 22/07/2005 11:41:01 Myself, I vote for the Romulan Warbird. Now that's how a cloaking device is supposed to work CCP - none of that hanging around waiting to be killed when you un-cloak. Uncloak, unleash awesome firepower on unsuspecting victim, cloak, be on your way - that's the way to do it! Warbird Oh, and they look cool. |
BLAIYNE Shadow Play |
Posted - 2005.07.22 11:40:00 -
[358] Edited by: BLAIYNE on 22/07/2005 11:41:01 Myself, I vote for the Romulan Warbird. Now that's how a cloaking device is supposed to work CCP - none of that hanging around waiting to be killed when you un-cloak. Uncloak, unleash awesome firepower on unsuspecting victim, cloak, be on your way - that's the way to do it! Warbird Oh, and they look cool. |
 fairimear |
Posted - 2005.07.22 13:03:00 -
[359] i love the new warbird valor  (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination. |
 fairimear Gallente S.A.S Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.07.22 13:03:00 -
[360] i love the new warbird valor Makeing your npc hunters SS. |
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