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 Logan Xerxes    |
Posted - 2005.07.17 11:36:00 -
[1] Your dream ship can be in or out of eve and be of your own creation. I persoally would loveto fly a missile cruiser from Conquest: Frontier wars. I just like the idea of flying about cloaked and shooting missiles at some poor bastard :P |
 Logan Xerxes ANZAC ALLIANCE Southern Cross Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.17 11:36:00 -
[2] Your dream ship can be in or out of eve and be of your own creation. I persoally would loveto fly a missile cruiser from Conquest: Frontier wars. I just like the idea of flying about cloaked and shooting missiles at some poor bastard :P |
 Bad'Boy |
Posted - 2005.07.17 11:40:00 -
[3] would be cool to have vagrs BC from homeworld 2(but BS size in EVE) TAKE WHAT YOU CAN, GIVE NOTHING BACK!!! |
 Bad'Boy Caldari Men in Black |
Posted - 2005.07.17 11:40:00 -
[4] would be cool to have vagrs BC from homeworld 2(but BS size in EVE) *************************************** What you gonna do when I come for yoU!? *************************************** |
 Professor McFly |
Posted - 2005.07.17 11:44:00 -
[5] Tie Interceptor from Star Wars. Why can't we divert power from shields to the engine on the fly?  |
 Professor McFly |
Posted - 2005.07.17 11:44:00 -
[6] Tie Interceptor from Star Wars. Why can't we divert power from shields to the engine on the fly? __________________ Inappropriate link description. --Jorauk mods - pwning sigs since 1943 |
 mirel yirrin |
Posted - 2005.07.17 13:48:00 -
[7] hmm....Maybe the Gigantic ship I dreamt up for freelancer....Huge, purple, 145 Weapon hardpoints, 900m/s base speed....It was called "The Oraculer effect".... never made it out of the design stage...maybe because it was incredibly overpowered...:D ------------------------------------------- 05.05.05 16:22 [Notify} Combat Your Mega pulse Laser 2 strikes bunny, wrecking for 983.2 dmg . ... <<< Now Bunny is made of ash >:D .. |
 mirel yirrin Gallente Ore Mongers SMASH Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.17 13:48:00 -
[8] hmm....Maybe the Gigantic ship I dreamt up for freelancer....Huge, purple, 145 Weapon hardpoints, 900m/s base speed....It was called "The Oraculer effect".... never made it out of the design stage...maybe because it was incredibly overpowered...:D --------------------------------- |
Sergeant Spot |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:07:00 -
[9] Playboy Mansion Party Cruise Liner....... oh, you were thinking of combat ships..... Playboy Mansion Party HAC. |
 Sergeant Spot Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:07:00 -
[10] Playboy Mansion Party Cruise Liner....... oh, you were thinking of combat ships..... Playboy Mansion Party HAC. Play nice while you butcher each other. |
dantes inferno |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:10:00 -
[11] would love to have a super star destroyer. the amount of weponary it would have.... _____ |
 dantes inferno Caldari the ang |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:10:00 -
[12] would love to have a super star destroyer. the amount of weponary it would have.... RAM is recruiting |
Horg |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:11:00 -
[13] The Event Horizon :D ... for those who've seen the movie |
 Horg Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:11:00 -
[14] The Event Horizon :D ... for those who've seen the movie |
 HippoKing |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:12:00 -
[15] nomad BS from freelancer |
 HippoKing Caldari The I-Win Button |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:12:00 -
[16] nomad BS from freelancer |
 JoCool |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:22:00 -
[17] Edited by: JoCool on 17/07/2005 14:27:03 Typhoon from the game Jumpgate. Look at its mass and compare to frigates, so unfortunately it would be a fighter about the size of a drone. :) |
 JoCool MASS |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:22:00 -
[18] Edited by: JoCool on 17/07/2005 14:27:03 Typhoon from the game Jumpgate. Look at its mass and compare to frigates, so unfortunately it would be a fighter about the size of a drone. :) Trey Azagthoth > Youre my idol Jocool. I wanna be like Jocool jr. or Jocool the sequel! Oveur > ohnoes jocool |
Cosmic Dragon |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:24:00 -
[19] The Sabre from the last next generation movie [NEMESES] able to fire while cloaked with 6 launchers and 25 laser guns  Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beer Holder!!! |
 Cosmic Dragon Amarr Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:24:00 -
[20] The Sabre from the last next generation movie [NEMESES] able to fire while cloaked with 6 launchers and 25 laser guns Beauty Is In The Eye Of The Beer Holder!!! |
 Black Lung |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:27:00 -
[21] Edited by: Black Lung on 17/07/2005 14:28:03 Probably the prototype Bird of Prey from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Basically a ship that fires while cloaked. EDIT- Cosmic, it was called the Scimitar |
 Toaster Oven |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:27:00 -
[22] Andromeda Ascendant, complete with sexy AI and Nova bombs  |
 Black Lung |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:27:00 -
[23] Edited by: Black Lung on 17/07/2005 14:28:03 Probably the prototype Bird of Prey from Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. Basically a ship that fires while cloaked. EDIT- Cosmic, it was called the Scimitar |
 Toaster Oven |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:27:00 -
[24] Andromeda Ascendant, complete with sexy AI and Nova bombs |
Laocoon |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:42:00 -
[25] Hmm... One of those big mean mega capital ships from homeworld 1... mmm.... or a Blockade runner from Star Wars. Mmm... Or... Ohh! a B-Wing (which is just a better looking merlin)--------------- |
 Laocoon Veto. Veto Corp |
Posted - 2005.07.17 14:42:00 -
[26] Hmm... One of those big mean mega capital ships from homeworld 1... mmm.... or a Blockade runner from Star Wars. Mmm... Or... Ohh! a B-Wing (which is just a better looking merlin)- Lao Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Shufo ([email protected]) Veto. Corp |
 Kain De'Stroi |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:05:00 -
[27] The borgs ship .  Dunno if it actually had a name tho  So you could simply destroy your target after taking all the ships data and integrating it into your own A ship that constantly evolves in weaponary etc  Loyalist to the Khanid Kingdom. |
 Kain De'Stroi Epic. |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:05:00 -
[28] The borgs ship . Dunno if it actually had a name tho So you could simply destroy your target after taking all the ships data and integrating it into your own A ship that constantly evolves in weaponary etc ---------------- |
 Pottsey |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:09:00 -
[29] My dream ship would be one of cargo ships from Elite 3 with a nice shield recharge bonus and a +1 drone level bonus with no or few weapon slots. Just drones and lots of cargo space and a jump drive. Perhaps a Imperial Explorer or a Imperial Trader. _________________________________________________ Nominate famous people in Eve who had an impact on you. |
 Pottsey Enheduanni Foundation |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:09:00 -
[30] My dream ship would be one of cargo ships from Elite 3 with a nice shield recharge bonus and a +1 drone level bonus with no or few weapon slots. Just drones and lots of cargo space and a jump drive. Perhaps a Imperial Explorer or a Imperial Trader. Passive shield tanking guide click here |
McClan |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:32:00 -
[31] Vorlon Battleship |
 McClan Caldari FW Inc Kith of Venal |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:32:00 -
[32] Vorlon Battleship |
 elFarto |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:38:00 -
[33]
It's the Scimitar, and please don't undersell this ship Details. Regards elFarto |
 elFarto New Order Industries |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:38:00 -
[34]
It's the Scimitar, and please don't undersell this ship Details. Regards elFarto NPC database Mal: This is your captain speaking. We're having some technical difficulties, so we may experience some turbulence, and then explode. |
 Flash Landsraad |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:49:00 -
[35]
The Scimitar model should have been used for one of the dreads and have the planet destroying thing as the animation for siege mode ________________________________________________ |
 Flash Landsraad STK Scientific |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:49:00 -
[36]
The Scimitar model should have been used for one of the dreads and have the planet destroying thing as the animation for siege mode Signature removed due to lack of Eve-related content. -Ivan K Fair enough Ivan, sorry :( - Flash |
Jessa |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:52:00 -
[37] I'd say the mothership from HW2... but then I look at the Naglfar and think forget it. |
 Jessa Caldari Zion Corp |
Posted - 2005.07.17 15:52:00 -
[38] I'd say the mothership from HW2... but then I look at the Naglfar and think forget it. |
Sentani |
Posted - 2005.07.17 16:05:00 -
[39] im amazed that noone has said this b4.... the DeathstarII... completed offcourse |
 Sentani |
Posted - 2005.07.17 16:05:00 -
[40] im amazed that noone has said this b4.... the DeathstarII... completed offcourse ____________________________________________________________ The Eris Goes Straight to your Head.  |
 John Blackthorn |
Posted - 2005.07.17 16:08:00 -
[41] I'd like to fly the defiant (cruiser size) from Startrek ds9. |
 John Blackthorn Foundation R0ADKILL |
Posted - 2005.07.17 16:08:00 -
[42] I'd like to fly the defiant (cruiser size) from Startrek ds9. |
 Na'Axin |
Posted - 2005.07.17 16:11:00 -
[43]
heck that ship even uses scorpions as drones :P |
 Na'Axin Eve University Ivy League |
Posted - 2005.07.17 16:11:00 -
[44]
heck that ship even uses scorpions as drones :P |
Grimpak |
Posted - 2005.07.17 16:23:00 -
[45]
nasty thingy btw -------------------
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 Grimpak Gallente Trinity Nova KIA Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.17 16:23:00 -
[46]
nasty thingy btw --- truth about EVE:
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Niklas |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:03:00 -
[47] My dream ship would be "scuttlebutt" Beta Ray Bills personal starship in the marvel comics. It looked like a late 1940's battleship deigned for space flight and refueled by destroying a star |
 Niklas |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:03:00 -
[48] My dream ship would be "scuttlebutt" Beta Ray Bills personal starship in the marvel comics. It looked like a late 1940's battleship deigned for space flight and refueled by destroying a star |
piercer |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:17:00 -
[49] I would love one of the ancient ships off of stargate SG1. Cant remember if you ever saw one in the series or what they could do, but considering some of the things that they did (built atlantis) then they would be powerfuller than the jove. |
 piercer Minmatar Total Mayhem. Aftermath Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:17:00 -
[50] I would love one of the ancient ships off of stargate SG1. Cant remember if you ever saw one in the series or what they could do, but considering some of the things that they did (built atlantis) then they would be powerfuller than the jove. |
Berilac |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:30:00 -
[51] 10k Hitpoints and /heal. |
 Berilac Amarr Petition Inc. |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:30:00 -
[52] 10k Hitpoints and /heal. |
HippoKing |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:31:00 -
[53] i ent putting my pod in the event horizon i like my eyes |
HippoKing Caldari The I-Win Button |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:31:00 -
[54] i ent putting my pod in the event horizon i like my eyes |
Tsavong Lah |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:34:00 -
[55] Panther Clipper (elite ii) - kicked ass, imo. Selling Bustards, Impels, Crystalline Carbonide. Contact me! Also, we're recruiting - Join OTO! |
 Tsavong Lah Caldari Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:34:00 -
[56] Panther Clipper (elite ii) - kicked ass, imo. I got a jar of dirt! |
Ortu Konsinni |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:36:00 -
[57] I think the Vindicator is everything I want. |
Pandemonium9999 |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:36:00 -
[58] The Whitestar from Babylon 5 or one of the Shadowcrab ships. |
 Ortu Konsinni KIA Corp KIA Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:36:00 -
[59] I think the Vindicator is everything I want. --- High quality pics of ALL EVE ships! |
 Pandemonium9999 |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:36:00 -
[60] The Whitestar from Babylon 5 or one of the Shadowcrab ships. |
Jeebs |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:44:00 -
[61] i'm gonna have to go with Jean Luc Picard's (not Jacque Cousteau's) Calypso. i hear its got missile hardpoints. |
 Jeebs |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:44:00 -
[62] i'm gonna have to go with Jean Luc Picard's (not Jacque Cousteau's) Calypso. i hear its got missile hardpoints. |
nirana |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:58:00 -
[63] Edited by: nirana on 17/07/2005 17:58:35 Emperor Palpatines Flagship(after starwars ep. 6) aka Eclipse... "a 17.5km-long super star destroyer, Solid Black and twice the length of the original Super star detroyer. The ship had a crew of more than 700.000 plus 150.000 stormtroopers. i was outfitted with 500 heavy laser cannons and 550 turbolaser batteries in addition to the planet-wh(cr)acking superlaser." ok im just gonna stop now... to lazy to write the rest.. |
 nirana Amarr Destructive Influence |
Posted - 2005.07.17 17:58:00 -
[64] Edited by: nirana on 17/07/2005 17:58:35 Emperor Palpatines Flagship(after starwars ep. 6) aka Eclipse... "a 17.5km-long super star destroyer, Solid Black and twice the length of the original Super star detroyer. The ship had a crew of more than 700.000 plus 150.000 stormtroopers. i was outfitted with 500 heavy laser cannons and 550 turbolaser batteries in addition to the planet-wh(cr)acking superlaser." ok im just gonna stop now... to lazy to write the rest.. |
 Dexter Rast |
Posted - 2005.07.17 18:04:00 -
[65] Event Horizon 4tw, that baby has a jump drive that takes you to hell and back, and has its fair share of spooky paranormal activities to boot. no guns btw but the look of it would have you crapping your shorts and make you want to run away  --------------------------------------------- |
 Dexter Rast |
Posted - 2005.07.17 18:04:00 -
[66] Event Horizon 4tw, that baby has a jump drive that takes you to hell and back, and has its fair share of spooky paranormal activities to boot. no guns btw but the look of it would have you crapping your shorts and make you want to run away ------------------------------------------- |
Dragon Slave |
Posted - 2005.07.17 18:44:00 -
[67] Vogon Constructor Ship |
 Dragon Slave Gallente Tranquil Transactions |
Posted - 2005.07.17 18:44:00 -
[68] Vogon Constructor Ship |
Lucas Vicenzo |
Posted - 2005.07.17 19:01:00 -
[69] My most ideal ship is a megathron that can sustain a tank and still run an adequate blaster setup. Sorry to be boring. |
 Lucas Vicenzo Gallente Neubiennye Terra Prime |
Posted - 2005.07.17 19:01:00 -
[70] My most ideal ship is a megathron that can sustain a tank and still run an adequate blaster setup. Sorry to be boring. |
Kashre |
Posted - 2005.07.17 19:06:00 -
[71] I just want a minmatar EW battleship. +++ It's called "low security space" for a reason. |
 Kashre Minmatar Battlegroup Obsidian |
Posted - 2005.07.17 19:06:00 -
[72] I just want a minmatar EW battleship. +++ "Etiquette is for the Dojo. In war there is only victory or death." - Eiji Yoshikawa |
Hoshi |
Posted - 2005.07.17 19:17:00 -
[73]
I prefer "The Heart of Gold", who wouldn't want a ship that looks like a running shoe |
 Hoshi Blackguard Brigade Phalanx Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.17 19:17:00 -
[74]
I prefer "The Heart of Gold", who wouldn't want a ship that looks like a running shoe ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations |
Kaalise |
Posted - 2005.07.17 19:36:00 -
[75]
Good luck training for Tech Level 26 A few ships I wouldn't mind having: A retribution with some more CPU and a second mid  The Prometheus from Star Trek The Pathfinder Class from Star Trek A Tactical Borg Cube Hand of God 137 from Consider Phlebas The upgraded Starship Streaker from the uplift series Pillar of Autumn from Halo The Long Shot from Ringworld |
 Kaalise Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.07.17 19:36:00 -
[76]
Good luck training for Tech Level 26 A few ships I wouldn't mind having: A retribution with some more CPU and a second mid The Prometheus from Star Trek The Pathfinder Class from Star Trek A Tactical Borg Cube Hand of God 137 from Consider Phlebas The upgraded Starship Streaker from the uplift series Pillar of Autumn from Halo The Long Shot from Ringworld ---------------------- Khargos - we have now entered the no paragraph zone. |
RedWyvern |
Posted - 2005.07.17 20:20:00 -
[77] Easy. The Shofixti Scout from Star Control. Loyalty, Integrity, Honour. |
 RedWyvern Gallente Eve University Ivy League |
Posted - 2005.07.17 20:20:00 -
[78] Easy. The Shofixti Scout from Star Control. -------------------------------------------------- Loyalty, Integrity, Honour. |
Gariuys |
Posted - 2005.07.17 20:42:00 -
[79] Whitestar, vindicator or a nice ( starfleet command III style ) sphere prime ( god I raped so many red shirts in that thing ) A deimos style megathron would be awesome too. Or a tech3 deimos. ( you're getting the idea. ;) ) A tool is only useless when you don't know how to use it. - ActiveX The grass is always greener on the other side. - JoCool |
 Gariuys Evil Strangers Inc. |
Posted - 2005.07.17 20:42:00 -
[80] Whitestar, vindicator or a nice ( starfleet command III style ) sphere prime ( god I raped so many red shirts in that thing ) A deimos style megathron would be awesome too. Or a tech3 deimos. ( you're getting the idea. ;) ) |
 Zeepo |
Posted - 2005.07.17 20:45:00 -
[81]
Damn Quant  |
 Zeepo |
Posted - 2005.07.17 20:45:00 -
[82]
Damn Quant |
Sun Ra |
Posted - 2005.07.17 20:50:00 -
[83] The ship from The Last Starfight Press a button and WTFPWN everyone Frank made me do it |
 Sun Ra Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.07.17 20:50:00 -
[84] The ship from The Last Starfight Press a button and WTFPWN everyone ATUF RIP - 'plz stop guys it's xmas' |
Demangel |
Posted - 2005.07.17 21:19:00 -
[85] Edited by: Demangel on 17/07/2005 21:22:34 Talyn From Farscape, the ability to jump, has an Ascendancy Cannon (pretty nasty gun with a cool name), and is alive so it would have an auto regen to armor and hull in eve I Bet :) Then again, it wouldn't be very module friendly, a living ship might not like it if you try shoving modules in it's orrifices to try to improve it... Then again, a SDF 1 or 3 would be pretty nifty too... The ability to mechamorphose into a giant robot. Carrier like drone capacity (using veritechs of course). A butt load of weapon hard points including poitn defense, missile batteries, and turrets. And the grandady of all pop guns, the SDF 1-3 Main cannon, capable of pretty much WTFPWNING anything, or a group of anything in one shot. The SDF 1 however lacked warp/jump ability after it jumped to pluto (they made an oopsie in jumping), but the SDF3 however had all that and a bag of chips, but lacked the Mechamorphising... Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit. |
 Demangel Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.17 21:19:00 -
[86] Edited by: Demangel on 17/07/2005 21:22:34 Talyn From Farscape, the ability to jump, has an Ascendancy Cannon (pretty nasty gun with a cool name), and is alive so it would have an auto regen to armor and hull in eve I Bet :) Then again, it wouldn't be very module friendly, a living ship might not like it if you try shoving modules in it's orrifices to try to improve it... Then again, a SDF 1 or 3 would be pretty nifty too... The ability to mechamorphose into a giant robot. Carrier like drone capacity (using veritechs of course). A butt load of weapon hard points including poitn defense, missile batteries, and turrets. And the grandady of all pop guns, the SDF 1-3 Main cannon, capable of pretty much WTFPWNING anything, or a group of anything in one shot. The SDF 1 however lacked warp/jump ability after it jumped to pluto (they made an oopsie in jumping), but the SDF3 however had all that and a bag of chips, but lacked the Mechamorphising... Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit. |
Kaylana Syi |
Posted - 2005.07.17 21:45:00 -
[87] 1st : Sansha Nightmare ---------------------- 4 tach IIs, 4 Cruise IIs, 40km webber, Tracking comp II, 2 cap charger IIs 2 Large Armor Rep. IIs, 4 Tech II armor Hardners ( rat specific ), 2 Cap relays stuff with t2 drones Its only a matter of time before I get it too. 2nd Ship : Serenity from Firefly -------------------------------- -------------------- The Nest |
 Kaylana Syi The Nest |
Posted - 2005.07.17 21:45:00 -
[88] 1st : Sansha Nightmare ---------------------- 4 tach IIs, 4 Cruise IIs, 40km webber, Tracking comp II, 2 cap charger IIs 2 Large Armor Rep. IIs, 4 Tech II armor Hardners ( rat specific ), 2 Cap relays stuff with t2 drones Its only a matter of time before I get it too. 2nd Ship : Serenity from Firefly -------------------------------- Team Minmatar |
SengH |
Posted - 2005.07.17 21:49:00 -
[89] sajuuk... now that was kickass firing animation. At least thats what dreads should look like. |
 SengH Black Omega Security GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2005.07.17 21:49:00 -
[90] sajuuk... now that was kickass firing animation. At least thats what dreads should look like. |
StarLite |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:02:00 -
[91]
I want a quant bomber :P ___________________________________________________ |
 StarLite Amarr Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:02:00 -
[92]
I want a quant bomber :P _______________________________________________________________________ This sig is guarded by SigGuard(c) |
Cautios Shufan |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:08:00 -
[93] Bentusi trade ship from homeworld.... all the way baby... |
 Cautios Shufan |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:08:00 -
[94] Bentusi trade ship from homeworld.... all the way baby... |
Selim |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:25:00 -
[95] I want the battlecruiser from Starcraft. The commodore can be the first officer. |
 Selim Smack Fleet |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:25:00 -
[96] I want the battlecruiser from Starcraft. The commodore can be the first officer. |
Talos Munjab |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:26:00 -
[97] hmmm dream ship well lets see i think it would have to be the tardis so i can go back and start the game from alpha and pwn you all how ever i wouldnt mind a asguard mother ship :) |
 Talos Munjab |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:26:00 -
[98] hmmm dream ship well lets see i think it would have to be the tardis so i can go back and start the game from alpha and pwn you all how ever i wouldnt mind a asguard mother ship :) |
MrBadidea |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:31:00 -
[99] Cylon Basestar - including 50 trillion cylon fighters as drones ¼¼ |
 MrBadidea Caldari The Children of Lilith |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:31:00 -
[100] Cylon Basestar - including 50 trillion cylon fighters as drones ¼¼ --- [Tranquility] You appear to be smacking in an unfitted Chimera. Would you like to notify MrBadidea of your current location? |
Hllaxiu |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:40:00 -
[101] Hydran Overmind. |
 Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2005.07.17 22:40:00 -
[102] Hydran Overmind. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
Tildaras Rellik'Cro |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:02:00 -
[103] Edited by: Tildaras Rellik''Cro on 17/07/2005 23:02:25 I want to fly the deathstar... but replace that single turret hardpoint's massive planet/ship destroying laser with a Super Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner of System Cleansing II, park it in high sec, and laugh at all the angry pvp'ers as I carebearily annihilate and monopolize the entire high-sec mineral industry. Edit: While in a newbie corp. |
 Tildaras Rellik'Cro Caldari Deep Core Mining Inc. |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:02:00 -
[104] Edited by: Tildaras Rellik''Cro on 17/07/2005 23:02:25 I want to fly the deathstar... but replace that single turret hardpoint's massive planet/ship destroying laser with a Super Modulated Deep Core Strip Miner of System Cleansing II, park it in high sec, and laugh at all the angry pvp'ers as I carebearily annihilate and monopolize the entire high-sec mineral industry. Edit: While in a newbie corp. |
Sobeseki Pawi |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:08:00 -
[105] Pyro GL ~Sobe Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss Combat Pilot and looking for a corp? Check AGSYN out here |
 Sobeseki Pawi Minmatar Shadow Gypsies R i s e |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:08:00 -
[106] Pyro GL |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:10:00 -
[107] Dyson Sphere... Titan? oh please, that's a rinky dink dinghy in comparison to a weaponised sphere that's multiple hundred thousand kilometers in diameter... power??? only a star! no need for capacitor limitations here, the real thing would be how much juice could it pump into a laser beam to fry a target on the other side of the galaxy... weapon fitting potential??? well... with the surface area of a sphere many hundreds of thousands of miles across, I'll let you all here conjure figures on just how many weapons you could fit... weapon bonuses??? we don't need no stinking bonuses, it would have omni-directional fire with tens of thousands of mounts of every weapon imagineable... who needs to fire fast or even accurately when the entire firing horizon is literally set ablaze with hellfire from a single volley not to mention it would have a gravitational wake able to disrupt entire solarsystems with ease, so anything "smaller than it" which is pretty much EVERYTHING would be buffeted to oblivion should it have the desire to even shrug in its general direction. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
 Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:10:00 -
[108] Dyson Sphere... Titan? oh please, that's a rinky dink dinghy in comparison to a weaponised sphere that's multiple hundred thousand kilometers in diameter... power??? only a star! no need for capacitor limitations here, the real thing would be how much juice could it pump into a laser beam to fry a target on the other side of the galaxy... weapon fitting potential??? well... with the surface area of a sphere many hundreds of thousands of miles across, I'll let you all here conjure figures on just how many weapons you could fit... weapon bonuses??? we don't need no stinking bonuses, it would have omni-directional fire with tens of thousands of mounts of every weapon imagineable... who needs to fire fast or even accurately when the entire firing horizon is literally set ablaze with hellfire from a single volley not to mention it would have a gravitational wake able to disrupt entire solarsystems with ease, so anything "smaller than it" which is pretty much EVERYTHING would be buffeted to oblivion should it have the desire to even shrug in its general direction. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Sadist |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:35:00 -
[109] A shuttle with 1,000,000 cargo space, that has the agility of a capsule, base speed of about 15 km/s and warp speed of 100 au/s. Yep, now im all set. ---------------
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 Sadist Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:35:00 -
[110] A shuttle with 1,000,000 cargo space, that has the agility of a capsule, base speed of about 15 km/s and warp speed of 100 au/s. Yep, now im all set. òòòòòòòòòòòò
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Red lensman |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:51:00 -
[111] a romulan warbird please from startrek |
 Red lensman Gallente Ordo Adeptus Astartes |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:51:00 -
[112] a romulan warbird please from startrek |
Demangel |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:58:00 -
[113]
Only one problem, dyson spheres arn't ships, they are more like stations. But if you COULD find a way to move one, I think this would pretty much be the I win button of doom ship. Course, building one should take 1 year of game time, cost the combined resources of each alliance in the game over 300 members for 6 months. But the stats would be worth it! :) Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit. |
Demangel Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.17 23:58:00 -
[114]
Only one problem, dyson spheres arn't ships, they are more like stations. But if you COULD find a way to move one, I think this would pretty much be the I win button of doom ship. Course, building one should take 1 year of game time, cost the combined resources of each alliance in the game over 300 members for 6 months. But the stats would be worth it! :) Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit. |
Necrologic |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:00:00 -
[115] Protoss Scout _______________________________________________________ Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram. |
 Necrologic Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:00:00 -
[116] Protoss Scout |
corporal hicks |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:03:00 -
[117]
You mean "the Last Starfighter" Deathblossem FTW  Nah I would have to go with "the dark knife" from b5, what more do you want than a cap ship with a cloaking field! " Stay Frosty " |
 corporal hicks Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:03:00 -
[118]
You mean "the Last Starfighter" Deathblossem FTW Nah I would have to go with "the dark knife" from b5, what more do you want than a cap ship with a cloaking field! " Stay Frosty " |
Amarro Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:09:00 -
[119] Edited by: Amarro Gallente on 18/07/2005 00:17:10 _______________________________________ "Combat mining, someone has to do it" |
 Amarro Gallente Gallente Ganja Unlimited CORE. |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:09:00 -
[120] Edited by: Amarro Gallente on 18/07/2005 00:17:10 _______________________________________ "Combat mining, someone has to do it" Ganja Unlimited |
Amarro Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:10:00 -
[121] My ideal ship would be a "Moon Raker", not from the James Bond movie. The ship will be the size of NPC station and capable of mining a moon to nothing in a single day . a. 200 Strip miner II's b. 6 detachable barges with cargo holds of about 1,000,000m3 that will fly back to the station you designate. c. Able to carry 300 mining drones, too bad you can only use 15 at a time  ._______________________________________ "Combat mining, someone has to do it" |
Amarro Gallente Gallente Ganja Unlimited CORE. |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:10:00 -
[122] My ideal ship would be a "Moon Raker", not from the James Bond movie. The ship will be the size of NPC station and capable of mining a moon to nothing in a single day . a. 200 Strip miner II's b. 6 detachable barges with cargo holds of about 1,000,000m3 that will fly back to the station you designate. c. Able to carry 300 mining drones, too bad you can only use 15 at a time ._______________________________________ "Combat mining, someone has to do it" Ganja Unlimited |
babylonstew |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:39:00 -
[123] Omega class destroyer from B5, or a sharin minbari cruiser from same. the omega has caldari built screaming from every angle and i love it  (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |
 babylonstew Caldari DNR Anarchy Empire |
Posted - 2005.07.18 00:39:00 -
[124] Omega class destroyer from B5, or a sharin minbari cruiser from same. the omega has caldari built screaming from every angle and i love it |
corporal hicks |
Posted - 2005.07.18 02:16:00 -
[125]
Have to agree there looks like a brick hits like a brick turns like a Cow, defo caldari IF your going with Minbari it would be the shargothi class battlecruiser (aka the Blackstar) " Stay Frosty " |
corporal hicks Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion |
Posted - 2005.07.18 02:16:00 -
[126]
Have to agree there looks like a brick hits like a brick turns like a Cow, defo caldari IF your going with Minbari it would be the shargothi class battlecruiser (aka the Blackstar) " Stay Frosty " |
Zungen |
Posted - 2005.07.18 02:25:00 -
[127] Edited by: Zungen on 18/07/2005 02:26:39 be nice to have sajuuk from homeworld 2 :P ..."bring sajuuk to bear..." :P its an enhanced version of the dreadnaught in hw2 |
 Zungen |
Posted - 2005.07.18 02:25:00 -
[128] Edited by: Zungen on 18/07/2005 02:26:39 be nice to have sajuuk from homeworld 2 :P ..."bring sajuuk to bear..." :P its an enhanced version of the dreadnaught in hw2 |
kessah |
Posted - 2005.07.18 02:48:00 -
[129]
GEEK ALERT!!! nah just jk, tho i do love that episode of the next generation the one where they find scotty in a transporter crashed on the sphere built around a star.hmmmm my favourite ship would have to be the defiant from ds9. or an computer game one would be The Colossus from freespace 2, i was sooooo gutted when that ship went down to the shivans PS Please bring a FS3 out!! Also the Hilgarian BattleCruiser from Homeworld 2 is purtty too. Vagr's BC too. soo many ships i like  -------------------------------------------------------- |
 kessah Blood Corsair's |
Posted - 2005.07.18 02:48:00 -
[130]
GEEK ALERT!!! nah just jk, tho i do love that episode of the next generation the one where they find scotty in a transporter crashed on the sphere built around a star.hmmmm my favourite ship would have to be the defiant from ds9. or an computer game one would be The Colossus from freespace 2, i was sooooo gutted when that ship went down to the shivans PS Please bring a FS3 out!! Also the Hilgarian BattleCruiser from Homeworld 2 is purtty too. Vagr's BC too. soo many ships i like -------------------------------------------------------- [Video] Forever Pirate 3 |
Lintaka |
Posted - 2005.07.18 02:56:00 -
[131] Naa forget sajuuk out of HW2, I would want the bentus megalith out of HW2, remember they were that mysterious and last of there race, looked alot like an Amarrian ship with the gold, too bad they had to blow up |
 Lintaka Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.18 02:56:00 -
[132] Naa forget sajuuk out of HW2, I would want the bentus megalith out of HW2, remember they were that mysterious and last of there race, looked alot like an Amarrian ship with the gold, too bad they had to blow up |
WizClone |
Posted - 2005.07.18 04:19:00 -
[133] The Lexx from well.. Lexx the movies |
 WizClone |
Posted - 2005.07.18 04:19:00 -
[134] The Lexx from well.. Lexx the movies |
B33F E4TER |
Posted - 2005.07.18 05:10:00 -
[135] Captain Harlocke's ship from Arcadia SDF-1 or SDF-3 (or the mini SDF-3 task ships, and the Ikazuchi Command Carriers) Hiigaren Battlecruiser and last but not least... The Battleships from the Gunbuster anime movies. The lens on the laser batteries were like 10 - 20 feet in diameter. |
 B33F E4TER |
Posted - 2005.07.18 05:10:00 -
[136] Captain Harlocke's ship from Arcadia SDF-1 or SDF-3 (or the mini SDF-3 task ships, and the Ikazuchi Command Carriers) Hiigaren Battlecruiser and last but not least... The Battleships from the Gunbuster anime movies. The lens on the laser batteries were like 10 - 20 feet in diameter. |
megahammer |
Posted - 2005.07.18 05:16:00 -
[137]
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 megahammer |
Posted - 2005.07.18 05:16:00 -
[138]
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megahammer |
Posted - 2005.07.18 05:24:00 -
[139] Oh and for a ship i would like the scout ship full of holograms off red dwarf. Massless and fast makes it hard to kill. |
megahammer |
Posted - 2005.07.18 05:24:00 -
[140] Oh and for a ship i would like the scout ship full of holograms off red dwarf. Massless and fast makes it hard to kill. |
Scots Crusader |
Posted - 2005.07.18 07:42:00 -
[141] For all the old guys out there. How about the liberator from Blake 7. |
 Scots Crusader Minmatar Queens of the Stone Age Anarchy Empire |
Posted - 2005.07.18 07:42:00 -
[142] For all the old guys out there. How about the liberator from Blake 7. ----------------------------------------------- O wad some power, the giftie gie us, To see oursels as ithers see us! |
Retnik |
Posted - 2005.07.18 08:30:00 -
[143] Omg someone said the basestar but not the battlestar galactica. I mean it could launch my 2nd favorite...vipers. Controlling that beast and a squadron of Vipers would rock! |
 Retnik 0utbreak |
Posted - 2005.07.18 08:30:00 -
[144] Omg someone said the basestar but not the battlestar galactica. I mean it could launch my 2nd favorite...vipers. Controlling that beast and a squadron of Vipers would rock! _______________________________________ |
Mr Floppyknickers |
Posted - 2005.07.18 09:55:00 -
[145] Bah too many people seem to be going for ginormous sized ships. What about the Ebon Hawk? The millenium Falcon? The winnebego from spaceballs? Serenity? Ditch the allure of overwhelming firepower to trump all and go with style. At least all the affore mentioned ships have undeniable personaility garnered not just from the shows the herald from, but how they behaved. Tempermental buckets of bolts that always managed to scrap by taking care of crew and cargo, only full falling apart when it was safe to do so. Then add some duct tape, paper clips, chewing gum and outright cheek and they'd be good as new and ready to carry on with thier crew regailing all about the dependability of these might ships. Gimme that, a ship with character and style. Now on to topic: my dream ship. Hmmm... any the above are good but I would have to say my all time favorite ship is... well of the above I'd say Serenity because I just love the design. Big enigines, glowing butt, hmm... sounds feminine too. Annnnnnyyyyywwwwaaayyyyyy. If I was to make one up though hmm.... for a base hull (since i can't really draw on on the boards) I'd chose the copperhead from FF: sprits within, which is the drop ship they used with the kind of spindly appearence. Make it three times the size, capable of 7.0 au speeds and speeds of 400 m/s without help. Two turents mounted on each pod, and have them look like turrents, not guns on sticks, one below the Bridge (which I only say because the orther name for a pilots place in a ship/plane/whathave you gets censored? C'mon CCP we're adults and promise not to giggle when we read such common words, honest!), one on the ridge of the back and two side mounted on the tail for 4 hardpoints total. Tack on 5 lows, 3 mids and make it an elite frig. Have the engine pods move as she turns, banks, etc.. to reflect them pushing her in the given direction. Get the turrents to eject shells and recoil when firing too. Color it a Black trimmed in pale blue (like the color in the inards ofthe jupiter two from the lost in space movie which was a nice design as well) with a faint blue or perhaps orage light used to show the windows or marker lights. The exhaust should be a brilliant blue with no trails at all unless the AB or MWD is humming. Call her the Hades. yeah, that'd do. |
 Mr Floppyknickers Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.07.18 09:55:00 -
[146] Bah too many people seem to be going for ginormous sized ships. What about the Ebon Hawk? The millenium Falcon? The winnebego from spaceballs? Serenity? Ditch the allure of overwhelming firepower to trump all and go with style. At least all the affore mentioned ships have undeniable personaility garnered not just from the shows the herald from, but how they behaved. Tempermental buckets of bolts that always managed to scrap by taking care of crew and cargo, only full falling apart when it was safe to do so. Then add some duct tape, paper clips, chewing gum and outright cheek and they'd be good as new and ready to carry on with thier crew regailing all about the dependability of these might ships. Gimme that, a ship with character and style. Now on to topic: my dream ship. Hmmm... any the above are good but I would have to say my all time favorite ship is... well of the above I'd say Serenity because I just love the design. Big enigines, glowing butt, hmm... sounds feminine too. Annnnnnyyyyywwwwaaayyyyyy. If I was to make one up though hmm.... for a base hull (since i can't really draw on on the boards) I'd chose the copperhead from FF: sprits within, which is the drop ship they used with the kind of spindly appearence. Make it three times the size, capable of 7.0 au speeds and speeds of 400 m/s without help. Two turents mounted on each pod, and have them look like turrents, not guns on sticks, one below the Bridge (which I only say because the orther name for a pilots place in a ship/plane/whathave you gets censored? C'mon CCP we're adults and promise not to giggle when we read such common words, honest!), one on the ridge of the back and two side mounted on the tail for 4 hardpoints total. Tack on 5 lows, 3 mids and make it an elite frig. Have the engine pods move as she turns, banks, etc.. to reflect them pushing her in the given direction. Get the turrents to eject shells and recoil when firing too. Color it a Black trimmed in pale blue (like the color in the inards ofthe jupiter two from the lost in space movie which was a nice design as well) with a faint blue or perhaps orage light used to show the windows or marker lights. The exhaust should be a brilliant blue with no trails at all unless the AB or MWD is humming. Call her the Hades. yeah, that'd do. |
Monty Burns |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:09:00 -
[147] Pah ... your all nubs when towered over by my General Systems Vehicle and its compliment of combat ready General Contact Units and Rapid Offensive Units.  (For those not "in the know" ... Ian M Banks/Culture series of books) |
 Monty Burns MASS |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:09:00 -
[148] Pah ... your all nubs when towered over by my General Systems Vehicle and its compliment of combat ready General Contact Units and Rapid Offensive Units. (For those not "in the know" ... Ian M Banks/Culture series of books) |
Rednaxela Nilkcam |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:23:00 -
[149] From Elite: Cobra MKIII Or, Fer De Lance -- as the real killers fly :P Or maybe that little killer of a ship from DS9. Can't remember the name. Oh, a Thargoid would be cool as well :) |
 Rednaxela Nilkcam Caldari Tactical Weapons Against Terrifying Terrorists |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:23:00 -
[150] From Elite: Cobra MKIII Or, Fer De Lance -- as the real killers fly :P Or maybe that little killer of a ship from DS9. Can't remember the name. Oh, a Thargoid would be cool as well :) |
Chuck Sausage |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:36:00 -
[151] Fighter from Independence Day As long as my fleet commander wasn't so stupid to get infected with some fork() bomb or whatever... |
 Chuck Sausage Caldari Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:36:00 -
[152] Fighter from Independence Day As long as my fleet commander wasn't so stupid to get infected with some fork() bomb or whatever... |
MrRookie |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:58:00 -
[153]
Ooooh scary movie. Cool ship if I could have it withouth all the crazy stuff inside. Othe than that I want to have a concord swat frig _____________________________________________ \o/ I got a siggy... WTB 3x Medium Modulated Pulse Energy Beams http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=139877 |
 MrRookie Caldari Dark and Light inc. D-L |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:58:00 -
[154]
Ooooh scary movie. Cool ship if I could have it withouth all the crazy stuff inside. Othe than that I want to have a concord swat frig Sig removed. Please email us at [email protected] if you would like to know why. -Conuion Meow May I have pink next time plz? |
Safronique |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:59:00 -
[155] I'd just like a Marachiel (*sp?) Minmatar BS 5, Gallente BS 5, Large Artillery Specialization 5, Surgical Strike 5 and Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5! 6 1400 II's 7 Gyrostabilizer II's mmmmmmmm, me is liking (anyone care to do the maths on damage and ROF then DPS for me?) |
 Safronique Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.18 10:59:00 -
[156] I'd just like a Marachiel (*sp?) Minmatar BS 5, Gallente BS 5, Large Artillery Specialization 5, Surgical Strike 5 and Advanced Weapon Upgrades 5! 6 1400 II's 7 Gyrostabilizer II's mmmmmmmm, me is liking (anyone care to do the maths on damage and ROF then DPS for me?) |
Quaren |
Posted - 2005.07.18 11:11:00 -
[157] Well my dream ship would be one of these: Peacekeeper Command Carrier: Who needs lots of guns when you have 2 flak cannons with about 100000mm caliber and 2 million people to man cepters, bombers and point def guns? Empeorer Staliks imperial dreadnought: Not only is it very cool but it has some very nice missiles that can destroy the better parts of plants? Jothis stealth frig: No 3km rule here. Just sit on top of them and if you get in trouble you can cripple a bs with a few shots. |
 Quaren Gallente Spontaneous Defenestration |
Posted - 2005.07.18 11:11:00 -
[158] Well my dream ship would be one of these: Peacekeeper Command Carrier: Who needs lots of guns when you have 2 flak cannons with about 100000mm caliber and 2 million people to man cepters, bombers and point def guns? Empeorer Staliks imperial dreadnought: Not only is it very cool but it has some very nice missiles that can destroy the better parts of plants? Jothis stealth frig: No 3km rule here. Just sit on top of them and if you get in trouble you can cripple a bs with a few shots. |
Sicori Malaki |
Posted - 2005.07.18 11:33:00 -
[159] ... I would give my left hand to be able to drive the Imperium 'Ultra' Class Star Destroyer, that is one of the coolest ship design I've seen :D Imperium 'Ultra' Class Star Destroyer those little "dots" you see, those are normal ISD's, and there are the other SSD's there as well ^^ this thing, will use Dreads as drones :D other than that, a simple Eclipse SSD would be enough :) ______________ Only in the Tales that humans tell, do the hunters kill the wolf in the end. |
 Sicori Malaki Caldari Thundercats RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.18 11:33:00 -
[160] ... I would give my left hand to be able to drive the Imperium 'Ultra' Class Star Destroyer, that is one of the coolest ship design I've seen :D Imperium 'Ultra' Class Star Destroyer those little "dots" you see, those are normal ISD's, and there are the other SSD's there as well ^^ this thing, will use Dreads as drones :D other than that, a simple Eclipse SSD would be enough :) ______________ Only in the Tales that humans tell, do the hunters kill the wolf in the end. |
Ante |
Posted - 2005.07.18 11:56:00 -
[161] Funny I preferred the carrier from hw2 to the battlecruiser. I was disappointed that they didn't put the assault frigate into hw2  I liked it much more than the 'torpedo' frigates which imo was balls. |
 Ante DAB RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.18 11:56:00 -
[162] Funny I preferred the carrier from hw2 to the battlecruiser. I was disappointed that they didn't put the assault frigate into hw2 I liked it much more than the 'torpedo' frigates which imo was balls. |
Venture |
Posted - 2005.07.18 12:18:00 -
[163] OMG!!! I can't believe no one has said this yet !! Well I guess it is kind of old school. What about the Moon Base from Space 1999?!!! With a little modification it would be a Natural Deathstar!!!______________________ Ganja Unlimited Security Director/Fleet Admiral "Smoke everyone and be happy!" |
 Venture Caldari Ganja Unlimited |
Posted - 2005.07.18 12:18:00 -
[164] OMG!!! I can't believe no one has said this yet !! Well I guess it is kind of old school. What about the Moon Base from Space 1999?!!! With a little modification it would be a Natural Deathstar!!!______________________ Ganja Unlimited Missing link "Smoke everyone and be happy!" |
Eight Ace |
Posted - 2005.07.18 12:39:00 -
[165] Liberator for teh win. Imperial traders from Elite II looked a bit like liberator. Linkage And, for the record, you COULD fit a new drive in an imp trader. you just had to crash it gently into a station until you managed to destroy the drive. Then you could fit a bigger one (but it couldnt carry enough fuel) |
 Eight Ace |
Posted - 2005.07.18 12:39:00 -
[166] Liberator for teh win. Imperial traders from Elite II looked a bit like liberator. Linkage And, for the record, you COULD fit a new drive in an imp trader. you just had to crash it gently into a station until you managed to destroy the drive. Then you could fit a bigger one (but it couldnt carry enough fuel) |
Professor McFly |
Posted - 2005.07.18 12:48:00 -
[167] Edited by: Professor McFly on 18/07/2005 12:48:10 Interdictor |
Professor McFly |
Posted - 2005.07.18 12:48:00 -
[168] Edited by: Professor McFly on 18/07/2005 12:48:10 Interdictor __________________ Inappropriate link description. --Jorauk mods - pwning sigs since 1943 |
Gunstar Zero |
Posted - 2005.07.18 12:58:00 -
[169]
"Gunstar" button = "deathblossom" </geek> Personally I'd like a crow with +1 missile hardpoint, +1 midslot. 1k Shields and assault resists (including EM dammit) it'd also have a base speed of 700m/s. It'd also pwn long range snipers, just by looking at them. |
 Gunstar Zero Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.07.18 12:58:00 -
[170]
"Gunstar" button = "deathblossom" </geek> Personally I'd like a crow with +1 missile hardpoint, +1 midslot. 1k Shields and assault resists (including EM dammit) it'd also have a base speed of 700m/s. It'd also pwn long range snipers, just by looking at them. |
Kinsy |
Posted - 2005.07.18 13:08:00 -
[171] ...A Giant...Maid! With a Vacuum Cleaner! Vulnerable to infiltration via the ear, though. |
 Kinsy Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency |
Posted - 2005.07.18 13:08:00 -
[172] ...A Giant...Maid! With a Vacuum Cleaner! Vulnerable to infiltration via the ear, though. |
DrunkenOne |
Posted - 2005.07.18 13:31:00 -
[173]
torp frigs pwn you.
Sajuuk rules. Too bad hw2 sucked (even though i was the best at it ). |
 DrunkenOne Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.07.18 13:31:00 -
[174]
torp frigs pwn you.
Sajuuk rules. Too bad hw2 sucked (even though i was the best at it ).Please resize your signature graphic to be smaller than 24,000 bytes in filesize - Jacques |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.18 13:37:00 -
[175]
fear the power of Spaceball 1! ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.18 13:37:00 -
[176]
fear the power of Spaceball 1! ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Kaalise |
Posted - 2005.07.18 15:55:00 -
[177]
There's always the Ringworld, it can move and would probably defeat every ship here on firepower (and that includes the Deathstar's pathetic weapon systems). Basically it turns the G2 star it revolves around into a massive focused plasma cannon.
I always prefered the Idiirans. Besides, General Products own General Systems (from Ringworld if you don't know). |
Kaalise Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.07.18 15:55:00 -
[178]
There's always the Ringworld, it can move and would probably defeat every ship here on firepower (and that includes the Deathstar's pathetic weapon systems). Basically it turns the G2 star it revolves around into a massive focused plasma cannon.
I always prefered the Idiirans. Besides, General Products own General Systems (from Ringworld if you don't know). ---------------------- Khargos - we have now entered the no paragraph zone. |
Failin Zhar |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:10:00 -
[179]
Amen to that! |
 Failin Zhar Gallente Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:10:00 -
[180]
Amen to that! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination. |
O'knar |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:25:00 -
[181]
Hell yeah, Whitestars pwn. Or a Vorlon cruiser Lol, just for kicks, Barbarella's ship. That movie's hillarious. |
 O'knar Grettistak |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:25:00 -
[182]
Hell yeah, Whitestars pwn. Or a Vorlon cruiser Lol, just for kicks, Barbarella's ship. That movie's hillarious. |
Dred 'Morte |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:30:00 -
[183] Vorlon Planetkiller Do a google on it. It's so powerfull that it's main beam can destroy a planet, just like the Death Star, and no weak point! 20Km long, thats 10 times an Apocalypse, a Revelation would look like a dwarf next to it! And a crow would like a microbe! |
 Dred 'Morte Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:30:00 -
[184] Vorlon Planetkiller Do a google on it. It's so powerfull that it's main beam can destroy a planet, just like the Death Star, and no weak point! 20Km long, thats 10 times an Apocalypse, a Revelation would look like a dwarf next to it! And a crow would like a microbe! Signature made by Mr Floppykickners |
Fred0 |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:45:00 -
[185] Voidhawks from the Nights dawn trilogy by Peter F Hamilton. |
 Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:45:00 -
[186] Voidhawks from the Nights dawn trilogy by Peter F Hamilton. |
Zibun Ionic |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:51:00 -
[187]
Definately my choice aswell. forgive our sins that we are about to commit |
 Zibun Ionic Minmatar Wings of Redemption Black Flag Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.18 16:51:00 -
[188]
Definately my choice aswell. |
Dirus |
Posted - 2005.07.18 17:02:00 -
[189] The mothership from Independence Day, including all the detachable ships and fighters Dreadnaughts and Titans, move over. Everyone deserves to die. You go first. |
 Dirus |
Posted - 2005.07.18 17:02:00 -
[190] The mothership from Independence Day, including all the detachable ships and fighters Dreadnaughts and Titans, move over. |
Shinnen |
Posted - 2005.07.18 17:37:00 -
[191] Prometheus from stargate.... only with everything in working order. or the Goa'uld pyramid ships :) Plus i'd like to be able to convert power from shields to warp drive and other modules... would be a gd idea ;) |
 Shinnen Caldari Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.18 17:37:00 -
[192] Prometheus from stargate.... only with everything in working order. or the Goa'uld pyramid ships :) Plus i'd like to be able to convert power from shields to warp drive and other modules... would be a gd idea ;) -- Chilly Con'PwnzorÖ |
xenorx |
Posted - 2005.07.18 17:41:00 -
[193] Definatly Andromida Acendant. Loaded with Hot computer clones progamed to look after my every need. |
 xenorx 0utbreak |
Posted - 2005.07.18 17:41:00 -
[194] Definatly Andromida Acendant. Loaded with Hot computer clones progamed to look after my every need. No one can hear you scream in space, so just shut up and die already. |
Mamer |
Posted - 2005.07.18 17:45:00 -
[195] The "Behemoth" from Wing Commander III. Ya know, you dont like that moon there? no problem... Mamer, |
 Mamer |
Posted - 2005.07.18 17:45:00 -
[196] The "Behemoth" from Wing Commander III. Ya know, you dont like that moon there? no problem... Mamer, |
Chaoswynd |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:00:00 -
[197]
Yay for culture ships, lol. But yeah, an ROU would be nice to have. Altho those GSV's are rather intimidating. Would be kinda cool to have your very own Sleeper Service. |
 Chaoswynd |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:00:00 -
[198]
Yay for culture ships, lol. But yeah, an ROU would be nice to have. Altho those GSV's are rather intimidating. Would be kinda cool to have your very own Sleeper Service. |
Elysabef Kutakis |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:07:00 -
[199] The Constrictor from Elite. If anyone recalls this ship from the in-game mission it was as hard as nails. Agile as hell and highly resistant to military lasers. Took *ages* to kill. |
 Elysabef Kutakis Amarr |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:07:00 -
[200] The Constrictor from Elite. If anyone recalls this ship from the in-game mission it was as hard as nails. Agile as hell and highly resistant to military lasers. Took *ages* to kill. |
Mrissa Easeah |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:21:00 -
[201] For Character Garu Class Far Trader A little more streamlined than its uglier predecessors, the A2 Far Traders (Empress Marava), small, compact, efficient use of space with front loading ramp, atmospheric capable, and snazzy captain's suite. For Flash Vargr Corsair Fins, tigershark stripes, mean contours - even if its tech is held together from patch jobs from a dozen different worlds, they -look- mean. For Flexibility & Merc Jobs Fiery Class Close Escort: Small, planet landable, with tough, medium-tech systems that are easily replaced during a technological depression, gunned gig, fusion guns and missiles. For Firepower Tigris Class Dreadnaught: Heavy Armor, Type T Meson Spinal Mount, Shedloads of nuclear missiles, lasers, fusion cannon, and 300 heavy fighters for its screen. |
 Mrissa Easeah Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:21:00 -
[202] For Character Garu Class Far Trader A little more streamlined than its uglier predecessors, the A2 Far Traders (Empress Marava), small, compact, efficient use of space with front loading ramp, atmospheric capable, and snazzy captain's suite. For Flash Vargr Corsair Fins, tigershark stripes, mean contours - even if its tech is held together from patch jobs from a dozen different worlds, they -look- mean. For Flexibility & Merc Jobs Fiery Class Close Escort: Small, planet landable, with tough, medium-tech systems that are easily replaced during a technological depression, gunned gig, fusion guns and missiles. For Firepower Tigris Class Dreadnaught: Heavy Armor, Type T Meson Spinal Mount, Shedloads of nuclear missiles, lasers, fusion cannon, and 300 heavy fighters for its screen. |
Chee |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:27:00 -
[203] I just want a concord cruiser, dunno why.. |
 Chee Minmatar hirr Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:27:00 -
[204] I just want a concord cruiser, dunno why.. Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected]) |
Alexison |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:42:00 -
[205] Protoss carrier |
 Alexison Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:42:00 -
[206] Protoss carrier
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Ithildin |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:50:00 -
[207] To be perfectly honest: Dominix. With it's model changed to BShip sized Gallente Shuttle. THAT is a ship of beauty! Let me fit guns and tools of pain to it! PLEASE! -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. Josameto III - Moon 1 |
 Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.07.18 19:50:00 -
[208] To be perfectly honest: Dominix. With it's model changed to BShip sized Gallente Shuttle. THAT is a ship of beauty! Let me fit guns and tools of pain to it! PLEASE! - EVE is sick. |
burningsquid |
Posted - 2005.07.18 20:18:00 -
[209] Edited by: burningsquid on 18/07/2005 20:19:40 Shivan juggernaut from freespace 2 -can carry an entire fleet -4 massive particle beams that can rip through pretty much anything -50 other small and medium turrets for defense -the ability to destroy stars. http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/techfs/ships/sathanas.shtml |
 burningsquid Charles Nelson and Reilly |
Posted - 2005.07.18 20:18:00 -
[210] Edited by: burningsquid on 18/07/2005 20:19:40 Shivan juggernaut from freespace 2 -can carry an entire fleet -4 massive particle beams that can rip through pretty much anything -50 other small and medium turrets for defense -the ability to destroy stars. http://freespace.volitionwatch.com/techfs/ships/sathanas.shtml |
Laocoon |
Posted - 2005.07.18 20:35:00 -
[211]
Old? im 16 and i know Blake 7 Tho i dunno wat the liberator is as i was, like, 6 when i played it  --------------- |
Laocoon Veto. Veto Corp |
Posted - 2005.07.18 20:35:00 -
[212]
Old? im 16 and i know Blake 7 Tho i dunno wat the liberator is as i was, like, 6 when i played it - Lao Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Shufo ([email protected]) Veto. Corp |
dantes inferno |
Posted - 2005.07.18 20:53:00 -
[213] the suncrusher (if i remember the name right) from the Jedi acadmy series of books. Indestructable armour, fast, nippy, plenty of lasers and best of all a torpedo which causes a super nova. _____ |
dantes inferno Caldari the ang |
Posted - 2005.07.18 20:53:00 -
[214] the suncrusher (if i remember the name right) from the Jedi acadmy series of books. Indestructable armour, fast, nippy, plenty of lasers and best of all a torpedo which causes a super nova. RAM is recruiting |
j0sephine |
Posted - 2005.07.18 21:05:00 -
[215] Spaceship BOB from Tripping the Rift... there's just something about the fastest ship in galaxy with irrational fear of wide-open space. :s |
 j0sephine Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.07.18 21:05:00 -
[216] Spaceship BOB from Tripping the Rift... there's just something about the fastest ship in galaxy with irrational fear of wide-open space. :s |
Booster Terrix |
Posted - 2005.07.18 21:32:00 -
[217] Ya know...I would settle for almost any of the ships in eve if i could just customise the color scheme...maybe slap a corp logo or a 'betty' like they had on the 1940's bombers on the side...ya know....something to give it a bit of personality. Other then that....a battleship sized version of a Manticore |
 Booster Terrix |
Posted - 2005.07.18 21:32:00 -
[218] Ya know...I would settle for almost any of the ships in eve if i could just customise the color scheme...maybe slap a corp logo or a 'betty' like they had on the 1940's bombers on the side...ya know....something to give it a bit of personality. Other then that....a battleship sized version of a Manticore |
Zembla |
Posted - 2005.07.18 23:19:00 -
[219] Why the Nostalgia for Infinity of course. A ship from the space trilogy of Alastair Reynolds. Good books, and a nice ship :) More scientifically justified than most things in sci-fi :) <Z> Spread the Z |
 Zembla Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.07.18 23:19:00 -
[220] Why the Nostalgia for Infinity of course. A ship from the space trilogy of Alastair Reynolds. Good books, and a nice ship :) More scientifically justified than most things in sci-fi :) <Z> |
Demangel |
Posted - 2005.07.19 00:22:00 -
[221] Ok I would like to add to my last posts some more "Style" and "charm" oriented ships: The Thunder Road from the movie Explorers (the armor and hull would be like 1 HP a piece as the ship is made out of a Tilt a whirl, a garbage can, some plywood and 2x4's, and a TV screen... but the shield would be 99999HP with a 99% rating Vs all, cept maybe lasers? LOL). As a side bonus it would have no inertia, and thus could have pretty much infinate agility ;) As a drawback it's powered by a 12V battery, and no capacitor, and has a tendancy to wisk you off/Jump to where imature alien children watch too much TV and speak mostly in lines from old movies. So in short, it means no real EVE quality weaponry, or even mining lasers, and occasionaly randomly warps you to some wierd place. The Alien ship from "Flight of the Navigator" That would be a pretty ship too. Not very dangerous, but fast, sleek, and able to go back in time. Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit. |
Demangel Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.19 00:22:00 -
[222] Ok I would like to add to my last posts some more "Style" and "charm" oriented ships: The Thunder Road from the movie Explorers (the armor and hull would be like 1 HP a piece as the ship is made out of a Tilt a whirl, a garbage can, some plywood and 2x4's, and a TV screen... but the shield would be 99999HP with a 99% rating Vs all, cept maybe lasers? LOL). As a side bonus it would have no inertia, and thus could have pretty much infinate agility ;) As a drawback it's powered by a 12V battery, and no capacitor, and has a tendancy to wisk you off/Jump to where imature alien children watch too much TV and speak mostly in lines from old movies. So in short, it means no real EVE quality weaponry, or even mining lasers, and occasionaly randomly warps you to some wierd place. The Alien ship from "Flight of the Navigator" That would be a pretty ship too. Not very dangerous, but fast, sleek, and able to go back in time. Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you Demangel > Dude... I would call.. Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet. Galaxion > Just a bit. |
O'knar |
Posted - 2005.07.19 00:55:00 -
[223] Also, the ancient Luxan fighter from Farscape would be cool. |
O'knar Grettistak |
Posted - 2005.07.19 00:55:00 -
[224] Also, the ancient Luxan fighter from Farscape would be cool. |
Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol |
Posted - 2005.07.19 01:42:00 -
[225] Scorp with 16 midslots. --------------------------------------------- "Taking one for the team one ship at a time." |
 Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol Battlestars GoonSwarm |
Posted - 2005.07.19 01:42:00 -
[226] Scorp with 16 midslots. Caldari - BS idea |
B33F E4TER |
Posted - 2005.07.19 04:02:00 -
[227] Oh, I almost forgot: Super-Monitor from the novel 'Insurrection' written by David Weber and Steve White. |
B33F E4TER |
Posted - 2005.07.19 04:02:00 -
[228] Oh, I almost forgot: Super-Monitor from the novel 'Insurrection' written by David Weber and Steve White. |
ChainyMcSmoke |
Posted - 2005.07.19 04:58:00 -
[229] Spaceball 1 :-). Instead of siege mode it turns into a huge cleaning lady and sucks up anything smaller than a battleship. |
 ChainyMcSmoke |
Posted - 2005.07.19 04:58:00 -
[230] Edited by: ChainyMcSmoke on 19/07/2005 05:01:37 The magic schoolbus......or a giant peach |
Strana |
Posted - 2005.07.19 06:12:00 -
[231] Eh, giant intersteller warships are nice, especaily Dahak from "Emipre From the Ashes", which ship wise i would take, with its hyper beams, and hyper missles, 350 80k ton BS's a bridge thats 1km in diameter, and the captains quaters are a 30km in diameter park deck with a masion, a cool self aware AI, and 300k crew. Not to mention it would pwn/gank the Death Star since every one of its weapons is a technical doomsday device, and can move at a speed of 60% light speed with a reactionless gravitonic drive and turn on a dime. . . Other than that this isnt a ship, but i would kill for a Wing Zero Custom from Gundam Wing endless waltz, wtfpwned everything else |
 Strana Gallente The Clearwater Society Firmus Ixion |
Posted - 2005.07.19 06:12:00 -
[232] Eh, giant intersteller warships are nice, especaily Dahak from "Emipre From the Ashes", which ship wise i would take, with its hyper beams, and hyper missles, 350 80k ton BS's a bridge thats 1km in diameter, and the captains quaters are a 30km in diameter park deck with a masion, a cool self aware AI, and 300k crew. Not to mention it would pwn/gank the Death Star since every one of its weapons is a technical doomsday device, and can move at a speed of 60% light speed with a reactionless gravitonic drive and turn on a dime. . . Other than that this isnt a ship, but i would kill for a Wing Zero Custom from Gundam Wing endless waltz, wtfpwned everything else |
Sobeseki Pawi |
Posted - 2005.07.19 06:15:00 -
[233]
You want a Gallente Shuttle? ~Sobe Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss Combat Pilot and looking for a corp? Check AGSYN out here |
Sobeseki Pawi Minmatar Shadow Gypsies R i s e |
Posted - 2005.07.19 06:15:00 -
[234]
You want a Gallente Shuttle? |
0Virtu0 |
Posted - 2005.07.19 06:29:00 -
[235]
Thank god, I'm not the only Freespace 2 fan here. But, I gotta say. The GTVA Colossus, muhahahahah. ---------------------------------- I play EvE and I don't even get a stupid signature. |
 0Virtu0 Amarr Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.07.19 06:29:00 -
[236]
Thank god, I'm not the only Freespace 2 fan here. But, I gotta say. The GTVA Colossus, muhahahahah. |
Sobeseki Pawi |
Posted - 2005.07.19 06:31:00 -
[237] I would prefer the Aquitaine from Freespace, carrier FTW. Tho the Tigerclaw from Wing Commander would be cool too. ~Sobe Captain Cutie, Razor's Kiss Combat Pilot and looking for a corp? Check AGSYN out here |
Sobeseki Pawi Minmatar Shadow Gypsies R i s e |
Posted - 2005.07.19 06:31:00 -
[238] I would prefer the Aquitaine from Freespace, carrier FTW. Tho the Tigerclaw from Wing Commander would be cool too. |
Monty Burns |
Posted - 2005.07.19 08:56:00 -
[239]
 Was this the one that gave you the shield to replace yours? So kewl ... loved this mission. |
Monty Burns MASS |
Posted - 2005.07.19 08:56:00 -
[240]
Was this the one that gave you the shield to replace yours? So kewl ... loved this mission. |
Gunstar Zero |
Posted - 2005.07.19 09:13:00 -
[241]
you'de be kinda gutted if one got blown up tho. |
Gunstar Zero Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.07.19 09:13:00 -
[242]
you'de be kinda gutted if one got blown up tho. |
Marithin |
Posted - 2005.07.19 11:43:00 -
[243] I'd personally go for a Blackhawk fitted with a few Neutronium alchemists and anti-matter combat wasps. |
 Marithin Caldari Independent Navy Reserve |
Posted - 2005.07.19 11:43:00 -
[244] I'd personally go for a Blackhawk fitted with a few Neutronium alchemists and anti-matter combat wasps. |
MOS DEF |
Posted - 2005.07.19 11:47:00 -
[245]
I`d love to fight you with a ship of the shadows. Sexay!!! |
 MOS DEF 0utbreak |
Posted - 2005.07.19 11:47:00 -
[246]
I`d love to fight you with a ship of the shadows. Sexay!!! |
Valerie Ganor |
Posted - 2005.07.19 12:18:00 -
[247] Edited by: Valerie Ganor on 19/07/2005 12:19:41 Gimme a Serenity (Firefly class) any day! God she's hot! |
 Valerie Ganor Minmatar Defile. Privateer Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.19 12:18:00 -
[248] Edited by: Valerie Ganor on 19/07/2005 12:23:58 Gimme a Serenity (Firefly class) any day! God she's hot! |
Kythoma |
Posted - 2005.07.19 12:26:00 -
[249] the NOSTROMO from Alien I ..... .... full loaded with morphite *g* |
 Kythoma Caldari DeepSpace Inc. |
Posted - 2005.07.19 12:26:00 -
[250] the NOSTROMO from Alien I ..... .... full loaded with morphite *g* |
Mercurye |
Posted - 2005.07.19 12:39:00 -
[251] To be a bit more "down"to earth"... The USS Excelsior Heavy Cruiser, one of my favourite vessels ..And with an operating Transwarp Drive Oh... the stars shine bright, lovely me, where am I now? |
 Mercurye Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.19 12:39:00 -
[252] To be a bit more "down"to earth"... The USS Excelsior Heavy Cruiser, one of my favourite vessels ..And with an operating Transwarp Drive Oh... the stars shine bright, lovely me, where am I now? --~--~--~--~ ~NOTE: Freak~ |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.19 14:33:00 -
[253]
actually, the Excelsior "transwarp drive" never worked, and true transwarp according to canon from Voyager (shudders at how terrible that series was) shows that achieving transwarp isn't good for the genes unless of course becoming a glorified salamander is your idea of fun ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.19 14:33:00 -
[254]
actually, the Excelsior "transwarp drive" never worked, and true transwarp according to canon from Voyager (shudders at how terrible that series was) shows that achieving transwarp isn't good for the genes unless of course becoming a glorified salamander is your idea of fun ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Mercurye |
Posted - 2005.07.19 14:52:00 -
[255] Edited by: Mercurye on 19/07/2005 14:53:57 Bah....all these scientific approaches  Just let me dream a bit, don't be harsh on me PS: Excelsior's still fine without, grace is worth a lot |
Mercurye Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.19 14:52:00 -
[256] Edited by: Mercurye on 19/07/2005 14:53:57 Bah....all these scientific approaches Just let me dream a bit, don't be harsh on me PS: Excelsior's still fine without, grace is worth a lot --~--~--~--~ ~NOTE: Freak~ |
Ethan Tomlinson |
Posted - 2005.07.19 20:33:00 -
[257] the fighter bruce willis uses to escape the yacht at the end of the fifth element. sexy ship with some nice firepower. or a jovian frig with 10km/s base speed, BS shields with frigate shield recharge, crazy resistances, able to fit and use cov ops cloak (or advanced jovian design one ), 7 hi slots - 6 missile hardpoints with the ability to fit 6 cruise missile launchers(sieges arn't very classy even for a super frig), 8 mediums, 4 lowsbonus's: 10% missile launcher rof and 20% velocity bonus per level special ability: 200% bonus to scan resolution and targeting range would be the single greatest ship in eve and i would have to be the only one to have one of course does anybody think there might be a secret gate to polaris up north on the map?!? |
 Ethan Tomlinson The Collective Against ALL Authorities |
Posted - 2005.07.19 20:33:00 -
[258] the fighter bruce willis uses to escape the yacht at the end of the fifth element. sexy ship with some nice firepower. or a jovian frig with 10km/s base speed, BS shields with frigate shield recharge, crazy resistances, able to fit and use cov ops cloak (or advanced jovian design one ), 7 hi slots - 6 missile hardpoints with the ability to fit 6 cruise missile launchers(sieges arn't very classy even for a super frig), 8 mediums, 4 lowsbonus's: 10% missile launcher rof and 20% velocity bonus per level special ability: 200% bonus to scan resolution and targeting range would be the single greatest ship in eve and i would have to be the only one to have one of course does anybody think there might be a secret gate to polaris up north on the map?!? |
Drosssk |
Posted - 2005.07.19 23:29:00 -
[259] Cylon mother ship from the battlestar gallactica series (FOR ONCE in sci-fi does the enemy utilize the power of dirty nukes on humans... GENIUS). And the missile spam on those things.... bah who am i kidding thats just a raven, i vote for the shadowcrab thingys from Babylon 5. |
 Drosssk Minmatar Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion |
Posted - 2005.07.19 23:29:00 -
[260] Cylon mother ship from the battlestar gallactica series (FOR ONCE in sci-fi does the enemy utilize the power of dirty nukes on humans... GENIUS). And the missile spam on those things.... bah who am i kidding thats just a raven, i vote for the shadowcrab thingys from Babylon 5. __________________ Sig removed as it is inappropriate. -Conuion Meow ([email protected]) |
Archain |
Posted - 2005.07.19 23:44:00 -
[261] Edited by: Archain on 19/07/2005 23:44:19 Not sure if its been mentioned. Alot of sexy ships on the b5 series. Shadow battle crab Space Invaders Movie Library - [SPVD] |
Uggster |
Posted - 2005.07.19 23:44:00 -
[262] The Battlestar Galactica. If only for the fantastically camp and cheesy crew I would get to command |
 Archain Minmatar Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2005.07.19 23:44:00 -
[263] Edited by: Archain on 19/07/2005 23:44:19 Not sure if its been mentioned. Alot of sexy ships on the b5 series. Shadow battle crab [SPVD] |
 Uggster Caldari FinFleet Lotka Volterra |
Posted - 2005.07.19 23:44:00 -
[264] The Battlestar Galactica. If only for the fantastically camp and cheesy crew I would get to command _______________________________________________ Sig removed as inappropriate- Tirg Story of my life that one :( Views expressed ARE the views of my corp and alliance, not my own. |
Vaygr |
Posted - 2005.07.20 01:09:00 -
[265] Vaygr Battlecruiser from Homeworld2 4tw. I'd also love to have the Freespace 2 Colossus heh. |
 Vaygr Minmatar GVF United |
Posted - 2005.07.20 01:09:00 -
[266] Vaygr Battlecruiser from Homeworld2 4tw. I'd also love to have the Freespace 2 Colossus heh. |
Azeal Reece |
Posted - 2005.07.20 01:55:00 -
[267] X-wing or Enterprise :D, no arging, im right :)  hmmm and maybe a caldari ship that dont like like a traffic accident or a min ship that looks like it aint glued together :/ |
 Azeal Reece |
Posted - 2005.07.20 01:55:00 -
[268] X-wing or Enterprise :D, no arging, im right :) hmmm and maybe a caldari ship that dont like like a traffic accident or a min ship that looks like it aint glued together :/ |
Derran |
Posted - 2005.07.20 02:20:00 -
[269] T2 Celetis that is all missile hardpoints, still does EW and has a 2500m3 drone bay.:) I don't know why but I liked the Celestis hull. |
 Derran Minmatar Khumatari Holdings Ushra'Khan |
Posted - 2005.07.20 02:20:00 -
[270] T2 Celetis that is all missile hardpoints, still does EW and has a 2500m3 drone bay.:) I don't know why but I liked the Celestis hull. |
burningsquid |
Posted - 2005.07.20 02:34:00 -
[271] Edited by: burningsquid on 20/07/2005 02:34:45
I was gonna say the colossus, but the blowing up stars part really makes the Juggernaut win that one... whatever, give me a GTF Apollo any day it's so... quaint |
burningsquid Charles Nelson and Reilly |
Posted - 2005.07.20 02:34:00 -
[272] Edited by: burningsquid on 20/07/2005 02:34:45
I was gonna say the colossus, but the blowing up stars part really makes the Juggernaut win that one... whatever, give me a GTF Apollo any day it's so... quaint |
Kaalise |
Posted - 2005.07.20 15:55:00 -
[273]
I'd have to go with the Lady Macbeth. I'd be too scared of those Edenist contraptions getting possesed. Another cool ship (surprised no-ones mentioned it): Rama |
Kaalise Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.07.20 15:55:00 -
[274]
I'd have to go with the Lady Macbeth. I'd be too scared of those Edenist contraptions getting possesed. Another cool ship (surprised no-ones mentioned it): Rama ---------------------- Khargos - we have now entered the no paragraph zone. |
Grey Area |
Posted - 2005.07.20 17:09:00 -
[275] Or...for uber cheesy campness... "The Last Starfighter", mainly for that "Death Blossom" attack thingy... ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * ========================================= |
Grey Area |
Posted - 2005.07.20 17:09:00 -
[276]
I'll see your GSV and raise you... ...The Excession. No, you DON'T have to tell me who Ian Banks is (/me points at character name) ========================================= * I'm ALLOWED to cheat. I'm a STARSHIP. * ========================================= |
 Grey Area Caldari |
Posted - 2005.07.20 17:09:00 -
[277]
I'll see your GSV and raise you... ...The Excession. No, you DON'T have to tell me who Ian Banks is (/me points at character name) --- I don't mind you disagreeing with me. Just don't say I don't have the SKILLS to comment. |
Grey Area Caldari |
Posted - 2005.07.20 17:09:00 -
[278] Or...for uber cheesy campness... "The Last Starfighter", mainly for that "Death Blossom" attack thingy... --- I don't mind you disagreeing with me. Just don't say I don't have the SKILLS to comment. |
William Hartas |
Posted - 2005.07.20 18:57:00 -
[279] Got to be The Mellenium Falcon. 10% bonus to wookie growl every level. |
 William Hartas Caldari OcUK |
Posted - 2005.07.20 18:57:00 -
[280] Got to be The Mellenium Falcon. 10% bonus to wookie growl every level. |
nahtoh |
Posted - 2005.07.20 19:56:00 -
[281]
The newer one from teh mini series would be much better ;-) "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem solve itself" (credits to mcallister TCS) |
 nahtoh Caldari Bull Industries |
Posted - 2005.07.20 19:56:00 -
[282]
The newer one from teh mini series would be much better ;-) ========= "I am not saying there should be capital punishment for stupidity, but why can`t we just take the safety labels off everything and let the problem fix its self |
Siroc |
Posted - 2005.07.20 20:13:00 -
[283] nothing beats this!!! Linkage aka (Ohotnik) |
 Siroc Minmatar Brutor tribe |
Posted - 2005.07.20 20:13:00 -
[284] nothing beats this!!! Linkage aka (Ohotnik) |
Mathias Orsen |
Posted - 2005.07.21 02:32:00 -
[285] Edited by: Mathias Orsen on 21/07/2005 02:34:49 Edited by: Mathias Orsen on 21/07/2005 02:34:34 Most ppl don't know the Albator series, but for those that do, you'll remember this ;) http://arnaud.bazzanella.free.fr/IMAGES/battleship_arcadia2%5b1%5d.jpg Oh and here's the next minmatar ship :P http://www.acc.umu.se/~groophy/bilder/spa/spaceship9.jpg Sorry don't know how to link properly. |
 Mathias Orsen |
Posted - 2005.07.21 02:32:00 -
[286] Edited by: Mathias Orsen on 21/07/2005 02:34:49 Edited by: Mathias Orsen on 21/07/2005 02:34:34 Most ppl don't know the Albator series, but for those that do, you'll remember this ;) http://arnaud.bazzanella.free.fr/IMAGES/battleship_arcadia2%5b1%5d.jpg Oh and here's the next minmatar ship :P http://www.acc.umu.se/~groophy/bilder/spa/spaceship9.jpg Sorry don't know how to link properly. -------------------------------------- ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get" |
Mathias Orsen |
Posted - 2005.07.21 02:40:00 -
[287] Edited by: Mathias Orsen on 21/07/2005 02:40:22 |
Mathias Orsen |
Posted - 2005.07.21 02:40:00 -
[288] Edited by: Mathias Orsen on 21/07/2005 02:42:59 Edited by: Mathias Orsen on 21/07/2005 02:41:48 Edited by: Mathias Orsen on 21/07/2005 02:41:12 Edited by: Mathias Orsen on 21/07/2005 02:40:22 http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/948/noahsark2tr.jpg http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/312/zeus7fh.jpg Both images found on 3DTotal website. Grats on the designers for some nice designs. -------------------------------------- ---"What's in your wallet?"--- "There are two kinds of respect, fear and admiration.... I'll take what I can get" |
Nijiyami |
Posted - 2005.07.21 03:49:00 -
[289] ZEMBLA YES! Nastalgia for Infinity. has the ability to repair and change its entire shape to make it more spacially dynamic at near light speeds and to make armor/replace it where its needed.now that was a good book. Other than that, i always thought the Hygarran Dreanoughts from Homeworld: Cataclysm (horrible game) looked really awesome. complete with 32 missile bays, its own repair drones, and a repulsor wave to blow nearby ships up out of ur "personal bubble" not to mention 4 turret mounted ion cannons. the hygarran Battlecruiser from Homeworld2 also looked really cool. |
 Nijiyami |
Posted - 2005.07.21 03:49:00 -
[290] ZEMBLA YES! Nastalgia for Infinity. has the ability to repair and change its entire shape to make it more spacially dynamic at near light speeds and to make armor/replace it where its needed.now that was a good book. Other than that, i always thought the Hygarran Dreanoughts from Homeworld: Cataclysm (horrible game) looked really awesome. complete with 32 missile bays, its own repair drones, and a repulsor wave to blow nearby ships up out of ur "personal bubble" not to mention 4 turret mounted ion cannons. the hygarran Battlecruiser from Homeworld2 also looked really cool. |
Jaiden Thom |
Posted - 2005.07.21 07:01:00 -
[291] The Star Fleet X-Bomber with Dai-X, just for the obscurity and nostalgia factor. |
 Jaiden Thom Caldari Bombshell Cartel Xelas Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.21 07:01:00 -
[292] The Star Fleet X-Bomber with Dai-X, just for the obscurity and nostalgia factor. |
Ly'sol |
Posted - 2005.07.21 07:04:00 -
[293] nerds, For scary ass intimidation For me it would be the Ur-Quan Kzer-za Dreadnaught. Complete with "Launch Fighters" and Planetary siege plasma bolts. Or The Ur-Quan Kohr-ah Marauder, complete with homing kinetic kill blades and FRIED (Fiery Ring of Inceniary Enternal Destruction). While we are talking about the Ur-Quan, the minmatar should take some notes from them. For super sexyness The one, the only "Heart of Gold" For ridculously stupid amount of fire power The Decepticon assault cruiser NEMESIS Since many of you havent heard of this piece of military hardware...here is her loadout. 18 Turbolaser Cannons (2 Turrets of 2 Each), 4 Plasma Cannons (2 turrets of 2 each), 1 Hyper-Fusion Cannon (turret), 42 Heavy Guided Space Bomb Launchers (1 warhead each) 70 Mag Pulse Torpedo Tubes (1 warhead each), 252 Proton Torpedo Tubes (1 warhead each), 1120 Concussion Missile Tubes (1 warhead each), 8 Tractor Beam Projectors (4 banks of 2 each), 1 High Power Tractor Beam best spunky ship Alas, i hate to dive into the trekkieness but the Defient thing on Deep Space Nine I feel was pretty spunky -------------------------- Vist the Jericho Fraction Forums |
 Ly'sol |
Posted - 2005.07.21 07:04:00 -
[294] nerds, For scary ass intimidation For me it would be the Ur-Quan Kzer-za Dreadnaught. Complete with "Launch Fighters" and Planetary siege plasma bolts. Or The Ur-Quan Kohr-ah Marauder, complete with homing kinetic kill blades and FRIED (Fiery Ring of Inceniary Enternal Destruction). While we are talking about the Ur-Quan, the minmatar should take some notes from them. For super sexyness The one, the only "Heart of Gold" For ridculously stupid amount of fire power The Decepticon assault cruiser NEMESIS Since many of you havent heard of this piece of military hardware...here is her loadout. 18 Turbolaser Cannons (2 Turrets of 2 Each), 4 Plasma Cannons (2 turrets of 2 each), 1 Hyper-Fusion Cannon (turret), 42 Heavy Guided Space Bomb Launchers (1 warhead each) 70 Mag Pulse Torpedo Tubes (1 warhead each), 252 Proton Torpedo Tubes (1 warhead each), 1120 Concussion Missile Tubes (1 warhead each), 8 Tractor Beam Projectors (4 banks of 2 each), 1 High Power Tractor Beam best spunky ship Alas, i hate to dive into the trekkieness but the Defient thing on Deep Space Nine I feel was pretty spunky Click here for Lysol's Linky Library-last updated 30NOV06 |
Olivin |
Posted - 2005.07.21 08:05:00 -
[295] Ha'tak ( pyramid- shaped Goa'uld mothership) from Stargate Olivin |
 Olivin Gallente Aquarium |
Posted - 2005.07.21 08:05:00 -
[296] Ha'tak ( pyramid- shaped Goa'uld mothership) from Stargate Olivin ---------------------------- We¦re not lost. We¦re locationally challenged. |
Henka |
Posted - 2005.07.21 08:38:00 -
[297] I would kill for a Edenis ship loaded with Antimatter combat wasps.. woot :) (I se more people then me have read the Nights dawn triology books, omg i love em!). But everything loaded with a ton of antimatter would make my day realy.. |
 Henka Gallente Total Mayhem. Aftermath Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.21 08:38:00 -
[298] I would kill for a Edenis ship loaded with Antimatter combat wasps.. woot :) (I se more people then me have read the Nights dawn triology books, omg i love em!). But everything loaded with a ton of antimatter would make my day realy.. |
Professor McFly |
Posted - 2005.07.21 09:03:00 -
[299] Edited by: Professor McFly on 21/07/2005 09:04:10 Edited by: Professor McFly on 21/07/2005 09:03:50 Have to agree with many others the White Star cruiser would be pure class |
Professor McFly |
Posted - 2005.07.21 09:03:00 -
[300] Edited by: Professor McFly on 21/07/2005 09:04:10 Edited by: Professor McFly on 21/07/2005 09:03:50 Have to agree with many others the White Star cruiser would be pure class __________________ Inappropriate link description. --Jorauk mods - pwning sigs since 1943 |
ALPHA12125 |
Posted - 2005.07.21 09:44:00 -
[301] the O'Neil the flagship of the Asgaard which they built in honour of O'Neil. sadly got blown up by the replicants. |
 ALPHA12125 Gallente 0utbreak |
Posted - 2005.07.21 09:44:00 -
[302] the O'Neil the flagship of the Asgaard which they built in honour of O'Neil. sadly got blown up by the replicants. |
bundy bear |
Posted - 2005.07.21 11:44:00 -
[303] RED DWARF |
 bundy bear |
Posted - 2005.07.21 11:44:00 -
[304] RED DWARF |
Kaeten |
Posted - 2005.07.21 12:04:00 -
[305] ship from independence day I think lol |
 Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate |
Posted - 2005.07.21 12:04:00 -
[306] ship from independence day I think lol \m/ Metal Head \m/ |
Ralitge boyter |
Posted - 2005.07.21 13:17:00 -
[307] A borg cube, it's ability to cycle shields and thus ne nearly invunrable to laser fire is what sounds very good to me. |
 Ralitge boyter Minmatar Mordus Angels |
Posted - 2005.07.21 13:17:00 -
[308] A borg cube, it's ability to cycle shields and thus ne nearly invunrable to laser fire is what sounds very good to me. ------------------------------------------- Should you disagree with me, well I guess that is because I disagree with you. If you have a problem with that please feel free not to tell me. |
O'knar |
Posted - 2005.07.21 15:51:00 -
[309]
No. The whole salamander thing came about when they sucessfully broke warp 10, and subsequently began evolving at an accelerated rate. Transwarp is a completely different means of achieving ftl, and the Borg use it all the time. Transwarp requires either a special transwarp conduit stabalization module, or a transwarp hub that utilizes gates to stabalize conduits. |
O'knar Grettistak |
Posted - 2005.07.21 15:51:00 -
[310]
No. The whole salamander thing came about when they sucessfully broke warp 10, and subsequently began evolving at an accelerated rate. Transwarp is a completely different means of achieving ftl, and the Borg use it all the time. Transwarp requires either a special transwarp conduit stabalization module, or a transwarp hub that utilizes gates to stabalize conduits. |
Cyranus |
Posted - 2005.07.21 17:01:00 -
[311] I think it would matter more on what you want to do with the ship.....Carebears would love nothing more than to sit in Jita and laugh at noobs while mining in their Death Star barge with it's SUPER MODULATED TECH2 CAPITAL CLASS STRIP MINER OF DOOM!! Yet, personally, I would like a Thunder-Cougar-Firebird (Futurama FTW). I would have ALL the Gallente and Minmatar chicks. |
 Cyranus Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis |
Posted - 2005.07.21 17:01:00 -
[312] I think it would matter more on what you want to do with the ship.....Carebears would love nothing more than to sit in Jita and laugh at noobs while mining in their Death Star barge with it's SUPER MODULATED TECH2 CAPITAL CLASS STRIP MINER OF DOOM!! Yet, personally, I would like a Thunder-Cougar-Firebird (Futurama FTW). I would have ALL the Gallente and Minmatar chicks. Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed dimensions of 400x120 pixels and filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected]) |
FireMonk |
Posted - 2005.07.21 17:09:00 -
[313] I wud luv to have the Covenant capital ship (from halo 2 on xbox) as a bs. IT WUD BE AWESUM! |
 FireMonk Caldari Fallout. |
Posted - 2005.07.21 17:09:00 -
[314] I wud luv to have the Covenant capital ship (from halo 2 on xbox) as a bs. IT WUD BE AWESUM! You need isk to make isk, unfortunately i dont have the isk to make isk so i cant invest isk to make myself some more isk to make more isk with. ... Sucks tbh |
Aitrus |
Posted - 2005.07.21 17:54:00 -
[315]
Agreed. Plus all those sexy missiles... |
 Aitrus Amarr |
Posted - 2005.07.21 17:54:00 -
[316]
Agreed. Plus all those sexy missiles... |
fairimear |
Posted - 2005.07.21 18:03:00 -
[317] Edited by: fairimear on 21/07/2005 18:05:57 Edited by: fairimear on 21/07/2005 18:05:27 League of free worlds dreadnought from colony wars 1 on PS1. Tbh all the League ships from 1 and 2 would do me. probably the modern battlestar from deleted scenes on the New BSG pilots. Or the Akira class from ST:firstcontact and several DS9 episodes would be on my list to. -=Important=- I still want that eidolon for XMAS this year.  (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination. |
 fairimear Gallente S.A.S Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.07.21 18:03:00 -
[318] Edited by: fairimear on 21/07/2005 18:05:57 Edited by: fairimear on 21/07/2005 18:05:27 League of free worlds dreadnought from colony wars 1 on PS1. Tbh all the League ships from 1 and 2 would do me. probably the modern battlestar from deleted scenes on the New BSG pilots. Or the Akira class from ST:firstcontact and several DS9 episodes would be on my list to. -=Important=- I still want that eidolon for XMAS this year. Makeing your npc hunters SS. |
Ithildin |
Posted - 2005.07.21 18:10:00 -
[319]
As long as they change the EVE voice to Holly (male version) -- If TC causes you discomfort that you feel is unwarranted or may be outside TC's current contract - contact me, please. Josameto III - Moon 1 |
Ithildin Gallente The Corporation Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.07.21 18:10:00 -
[320]
As long as they change the EVE voice to Holly (male version) - EVE is sick. |
Gestra |
Posted - 2005.07.21 18:38:00 -
[321] Oooh, my choice would be the ROU Killing Time (Torturer Class Rapid Offensive Unit) from Iain M Banks book "Excession" ... complete with baroque fractul hull designs, enough fire power to slag severval planets (ooo, grid-fire and C.ompressed A.nti- M.atter 4TW!! :)) and an darkly funneh sense of humour thrown in :) |
 Gestra Amarr Quark-Nexus Industries |
Posted - 2005.07.21 18:38:00 -
[322] Oooh, my choice would be the ROU Killing Time (Torturer Class Rapid Offensive Unit) from Iain M Banks book "Excession" ... complete with baroque fractul hull designs, enough fire power to slag severval planets (ooo, grid-fire and C.ompressed A.nti- M.atter 4TW!! :)) and an darkly funneh sense of humour thrown in :) |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.21 19:05:00 -
[323]
Transwarp trans-warp is defined as surpassing warp 9-range and achieving "warp 10" is beyond warp 9-range so indeed it too is what transwarp would be. All "trans warp" means is quite literaly "beyond warp", as "trans" means across or past, and warp means warp. The reason that ôwarp 10ö fried the genes of VoyagersÆ personnel is that it was of course poorly controlled (read as: basically uncontrolled) and the side effects resulted from it. The Borg have their technology behind the transwarp already figured out for them, all they had to do was assimilate it, so their ôsafety precautionsö came pre-developed. now even if Excelsior had worked, it wouldn't have even come close to Warp 10/Transwarp, and the speed capabilities of the entire Excelsior class are quite unimpressive as the Galaxy class easily outpaced them in every respect, and the movie's description (Start Trek 3) of it as "transwarp" is erroneous since it wasn't a determination of its speed capability and rather a keen way for the engine in the Excelsior to be described as a "next generation" warp engine superior to that of the Constitution class (i.e. the Enterprise). now the canon also goes on to show that the Enterprise-D with the help of "the traveler" was the first federation ship to achieve true transwarp, surpassing the Warp 10 barrier and scorching across space at an unheard of speed. Later, when "Reginald Barkley" was "gifted" with the immense knowledge of an alien civilization, he created a "trans warp" gate to which the Enterprise-D was nearly pulled through to some unknown location. That transwarp gate is quite akin to what the Borg use. so "technically" the first two "true" transwarp events for the Federation were linked to the Enterprise-D, Voyager's claim to fame is that it is the mothership to the "Cochrane" which was able to achieve warp-10+, and the speed apparently microwaved the genes of Captain Janeway and Ensign Paris. That speed is still defined as being a ôtrans warpö speed, and due to it obviously being unsafe without proper precautions taken, my original statement was correct. Since the Federation is still ironing out the kinks in Transwarp technology, indeed going at transwarp speeds is currently ôbad for the genesö ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.21 19:05:00 -
[324]
Transwarp trans-warp is defined as surpassing warp 9-range and achieving "warp 10" is beyond warp 9-range so indeed it too is what transwarp would be. All "trans warp" means is quite literaly "beyond warp", as "trans" means across or past, and warp means warp. The reason that ôwarp 10ö fried the genes of VoyagersÆ personnel is that it was of course poorly controlled (read as: basically uncontrolled) and the side effects resulted from it. The Borg have their technology behind the transwarp already figured out for them, all they had to do was assimilate it, so their ôsafety precautionsö came pre-developed. now even if Excelsior had worked, it wouldn't have even come close to Warp 10/Transwarp, and the speed capabilities of the entire Excelsior class are quite unimpressive as the Galaxy class easily outpaced them in every respect, and the movie's description (Start Trek 3) of it as "transwarp" is erroneous since it wasn't a determination of its speed capability and rather a keen way for the engine in the Excelsior to be described as a "next generation" warp engine superior to that of the Constitution class (i.e. the Enterprise). now the canon also goes on to show that the Enterprise-D with the help of "the traveler" was the first federation ship to achieve true transwarp, surpassing the Warp 10 barrier and scorching across space at an unheard of speed. Later, when "Reginald Barkley" was "gifted" with the immense knowledge of an alien civilization, he created a "trans warp" gate to which the Enterprise-D was nearly pulled through to some unknown location. That transwarp gate is quite akin to what the Borg use. so "technically" the first two "true" transwarp events for the Federation were linked to the Enterprise-D, Voyager's claim to fame is that it is the mothership to the "Cochrane" which was able to achieve warp-10+, and the speed apparently microwaved the genes of Captain Janeway and Ensign Paris. That speed is still defined as being a ôtrans warpö speed, and due to it obviously being unsafe without proper precautions taken, my original statement was correct. Since the Federation is still ironing out the kinks in Transwarp technology, indeed going at transwarp speeds is currently ôbad for the genesö ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Yith Solarius |
Posted - 2005.07.21 19:08:00 -
[325] I think ROU Killing Time (Torturer Class) would do nicely, admitedly i'd not have much to do in the fight apart from spectate but i'm sure it/he/she/whatever would wtfbbqomghaxorzmeeeeee!!!!!!1111 anyone elses *** check out my ideas for Concord logic |
 Yith Solarius |
Posted - 2005.07.21 19:08:00 -
[326] I think ROU Killing Time (Torturer Class) would do nicely, admitedly i'd not have much to do in the fight apart from spectate but i'm sure it/he/she/whatever would wtfbbqomghaxorzmeeeeee!!!!!!1111 anyone elses Todays Idea: Eye for an eye |
Kaalise |
Posted - 2005.07.21 20:29:00 -
[327]
Then there's always Quantum Slipstream. |
Kaalise Doomheim |
Posted - 2005.07.21 20:29:00 -
[328]
Then there's always Quantum Slipstream. ---------------------- Khargos - we have now entered the no paragraph zone. |
Mercurye |
Posted - 2005.07.21 21:31:00 -
[329] Quantum Slipstream ...A secret Excelsior module invented by the late and lovely Ensign Kaalise....whoopzieExcelsior For The Win!! (I always wanted to say that...I feel really delighted now )Everybody will love this spaceship,...it's the future Linkage |
Mercurye Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.21 21:31:00 -
[330] Quantum Slipstream ...A secret Excelsior module invented by the late and lovely Ensign Kaalise....whoopzieExcelsior For The Win!! (I always wanted to say that...I feel really delighted now )Everybody will love this spaceship,...it's the future Linkage --~--~--~--~ ~NOTE: Freak~ |
MIstress Saki |
Posted - 2005.07.21 21:36:00 -
[331] A Tech II Battle Cruiser (Amarr). Where I can fit a full range of Tech II Heavy Beams without problems. or A Tech II "bird of pray" "submarine" Battle Cruiser spez. in claoking |
 MIstress Saki |
Posted - 2005.07.21 21:36:00 -
[332] A Tech II Battle Cruiser (Amarr). Where I can fit a full range of Tech II Heavy Beams without problems. or A Tech II "bird of pray" "submarine" Battle Cruiser spez. in claoking |
Jester87 |
Posted - 2005.07.21 22:01:00 -
[333] Edited by: Jester87 on 21/07/2005 22:03:38 I would like to see the Deadalus from Stargate... Thing is awesome. Plus it uses rail guns and stuff... which is sorta realistic. of course a Star Destroyer, or a Mon-Calmarian Cruiser would be nice too... Best bet, is the Death-Star tho.. 1 Shot to blow up any ship ;) |
 Jester87 D00M. Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2005.07.21 22:01:00 -
[334] Edited by: Jester87 on 21/07/2005 22:03:38 I would like to see the Deadalus from Stargate... Thing is awesome. Plus it uses rail guns and stuff... which is sorta realistic. of course a Star Destroyer, or a Mon-Calmarian Cruiser would be nice too... Best bet, is the Death-Star tho.. 1 Shot to blow up any ship ;) |
willows |
Posted - 2005.07.21 22:44:00 -
[335] Transwarp prior to ST:TNG is unscaleable as in ST:3 they used a warp scale that went upto 12. And all sucsesfull transwarp's have been on the later TNG scale that goes to 10. Warp 10 is the point where the reach the destination anywhere in the galaxy almost the moment they leave and sofar only entitys like Q have demonstrated this. this is more like a long range transporter than warpdrive and as such the first atempt at it was infact in a recent ST:Enterprise episode. Transwarp however is the point of warp between 9.99 to warp 9.99.99. Borg use a coil to acheive the lower ends of this. but as seen in VOY: endgame use a transwarphub to reach the higher ends. |
 willows |
Posted - 2005.07.21 22:44:00 -
[336] Transwarp prior to ST:TNG is unscaleable as in ST:3 they used a warp scale that went upto 12. And all sucsesfull transwarp's have been on the later TNG scale that goes to 10. Warp 10 is the point where the reach the destination anywhere in the galaxy almost the moment they leave and sofar only entitys like Q have demonstrated this. this is more like a long range transporter than warpdrive and as such the first atempt at it was infact in a recent ST:Enterprise episode. Transwarp however is the point of warp between 9.99 to warp 9.99.99. Borg use a coil to acheive the lower ends of this. but as seen in VOY: endgame use a transwarphub to reach the higher ends. |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:02:00 -
[337]
well, Quantum Slipstream is another area where things become sticky, as itÆs merely a means of ôpressingö a slipstream around the ship thatÆs more effective than the alternative multiple layers of ôwarp fieldö around the ship, 1 layer for each factor of warp speed. Trek Tech a means of Quantum Slipstream is ôbetterö than the current methods of pushing the warp factors harder (which according to the story were eventually limited except for emergencies to prevent subspace damage to the space being traveled through) and reaching into the sub-factors of warp 9à such as 9.975 being ôwide openö top speed for most of the fastest Federation shipsÆ capabilities. Quantum Slipstream provides a much more efficient subspace barrier between the ship and the space it is flying through at ludicrous speed. However the BorgÆs example of a transwarp answer as mentioned before was to effectively ôgateö their way across space. ItÆs sort of the idea of, going faster will take you less time to arrive, or if you simply make the destination effectively ôcloserö then the trip distance isnÆt as profound so effectively you get there faster. ItÆs sort of ôtrans warpö in multiple different flavors with different methods to get the same result. At the end of the day, Quantum Slipstream is actually only an extension of conventional warp drive speeds, itÆs questionable to how the chart should then look factoring in a more efficient and thus faster speed of warping when there is also an alternative means of effectively equal speed that circumvents ôdistance over timeö by making the distance effectively less so the time needed to cross it is thus less resulting in a ôdistance traveled in an amount of timeö result comparable to a speed, even if little if any speed was involvedà Once it gets to 8 and 9, the ôentryö afterward is debatable then as to whether to call it ôtranswarp Iö or ôwarp 10ö, and beyond that, further factors are again questionable as either ôtranswarp IIö or ôwarp 11ö. Since quantum slipstream is not conventional warp speed, and it is beyond the warp 9 to warp 10 barrier, itÆs technically correct to call it ôtranswarpö, but since it uses basically conventional warp with very un-conventional ôwarp fieldö technology, the hair may need to be split and possibly a separate chart for ôgenuineö transwarp that uses a non-slipstream methodology, and a second chart for ôslipstreamö factors of warp. Perhaps the slipstream warp factor chart would read, ôwarp 9, 10, 11, etcö, and the transwarp propulsion chart would read ôwarp 8, 9 : Transwarp I, Transwarp IIö ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:02:00 -
[338]
well, Quantum Slipstream is another area where things become sticky, as itÆs merely a means of ôpressingö a slipstream around the ship thatÆs more effective than the alternative multiple layers of ôwarp fieldö around the ship, 1 layer for each factor of warp speed. Trek Tech a means of Quantum Slipstream is ôbetterö than the current methods of pushing the warp factors harder (which according to the story were eventually limited except for emergencies to prevent subspace damage to the space being traveled through) and reaching into the sub-factors of warp 9à such as 9.975 being ôwide openö top speed for most of the fastest Federation shipsÆ capabilities. Quantum Slipstream provides a much more efficient subspace barrier between the ship and the space it is flying through at ludicrous speed. However the BorgÆs example of a transwarp answer as mentioned before was to effectively ôgateö their way across space. ItÆs sort of the idea of, going faster will take you less time to arrive, or if you simply make the destination effectively ôcloserö then the trip distance isnÆt as profound so effectively you get there faster. ItÆs sort of ôtrans warpö in multiple different flavors with different methods to get the same result. At the end of the day, Quantum Slipstream is actually only an extension of conventional warp drive speeds, itÆs questionable to how the chart should then look factoring in a more efficient and thus faster speed of warping when there is also an alternative means of effectively equal speed that circumvents ôdistance over timeö by making the distance effectively less so the time needed to cross it is thus less resulting in a ôdistance traveled in an amount of timeö result comparable to a speed, even if little if any speed was involvedà Once it gets to 8 and 9, the ôentryö afterward is debatable then as to whether to call it ôtranswarp Iö or ôwarp 10ö, and beyond that, further factors are again questionable as either ôtranswarp IIö or ôwarp 11ö. Since quantum slipstream is not conventional warp speed, and it is beyond the warp 9 to warp 10 barrier, itÆs technically correct to call it ôtranswarpö, but since it uses basically conventional warp with very un-conventional ôwarp fieldö technology, the hair may need to be split and possibly a separate chart for ôgenuineö transwarp that uses a non-slipstream methodology, and a second chart for ôslipstreamö factors of warp. Perhaps the slipstream warp factor chart would read, ôwarp 9, 10, 11, etcö, and the transwarp propulsion chart would read ôwarp 8, 9 : Transwarp I, Transwarp IIö ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Hllaxiu |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:26:00 -
[339]
I'm sorry, but retcons for the worst voyager episode are simply not acceptable. Its far better to say that that episode doesn't exist and just go on your merry way with your "warp 13" speeds in "All good things..." and your transwarp tunnels of the last episode of Voyager. Oh, and I stick by my prior "Hydrans ftw" statement. |
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:26:00 -
[340]
I'm sorry, but retcons for the worst voyager episode are simply not acceptable. Its far better to say that that episode doesn't exist and just go on your merry way with your "warp 13" speeds in "All good things..." and your transwarp tunnels of the last episode of Voyager. Oh, and I stick by my prior "Hydrans ftw" statement. --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson |
Lucian Alucard |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:40:00 -
[341] Martok's Negh' Var- 50% more fire then a Sovreign,Cloaking capability,tho significantly slower (only warp 8.5),Ion pulse cannon (drops sheilds to 50% in one shot due to it being a spin off of Been technology) Osiris- From Freelancer,Rheinland damage mixed with the speed and tech systems of Liberty and it can cloak!!! A Thrasher or Munin that can fit a full rack of T2 720MM Artys. and still be able to fit a good set up. Undisputed Lord Of The Forums!!! The best joke ever!!!! http://www.livejournal.com/users/sweet__kitty/40953.html?mode=reply |
 Lucian Alucard Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System |
Posted - 2005.07.21 23:40:00 -
[342] Martok's Negh' Var- 50% more fire then a Sovreign,Cloaking capability,tho significantly slower (only warp 8.5),Ion pulse cannon (drops sheilds to 50% in one shot due to it being a spin off of Been technology) Osiris- From Freelancer,Rheinland damage mixed with the speed and tech systems of Liberty and it can cloak!!! A Thrasher or Munin that can fit a full rack of T2 720MM Artys. and still be able to fit a good set up. |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.22 02:32:00 -
[343]
lol well, I didn't say I liked Voyager (to say I only despised it is far too weak a term to describe it properly) but sadly, it's canon. Just as much as many people would like to have had "Star Wars - George Lucas = Happy Fans" for Episode 1 and 2, sadly, it's not the case, and now we all have to live with the consequencesà If there is one thing we can count on though is inconsistency in Sci-Fi, so as long as Paramount is in it for the money (i.e. until space stops being dark) they will happily grind Star Trek into the ground one TV series at a time and with as many movies as there is celluloid to print them on. ItÆs only a matter of time till they step back and re-work their canon again to fit into a new set of rules they are writing as they go. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.22 02:32:00 -
[344]
lol well, I didn't say I liked Voyager (to say I only despised it is far too weak a term to describe it properly) but sadly, it's canon. Just as much as many people would like to have had "Star Wars - George Lucas = Happy Fans" for Episode 1 and 2, sadly, it's not the case, and now we all have to live with the consequencesà If there is one thing we can count on though is inconsistency in Sci-Fi, so as long as Paramount is in it for the money (i.e. until space stops being dark) they will happily grind Star Trek into the ground one TV series at a time and with as many movies as there is celluloid to print them on. ItÆs only a matter of time till they step back and re-work their canon again to fit into a new set of rules they are writing as they go. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Jokastis |
Posted - 2005.07.22 03:06:00 -
[345] ok, simple enough I would want my dream ship to be able to use all of the slots in the fittings display. Hi:8 (8 Turret / 8 Missle slots) Med:8 Low:8 With enough powergrid and cpu to fit 8 guns or missles of my choice. And a capacitor that would support a shield and armor tank indefinitely. And a good tank at that, with resistances sitting at around 80% or above. That would be great Can it be done by next Tuesday? |
 Jokastis |
Posted - 2005.07.22 03:06:00 -
[346] ok, simple enough I would want my dream ship to be able to use all of the slots in the fittings display. Hi:8 (8 Turret / 8 Missle slots) Med:8 Low:8 With enough powergrid and cpu to fit 8 guns or missles of my choice. And a capacitor that would support a shield and armor tank indefinitely. And a good tank at that, with resistances sitting at around 80% or above. That would be great Can it be done by next Tuesday? |
Pointless Vengence |
Posted - 2005.07.22 04:49:00 -
[347] For you Trekies: Coaxial Warp Drive . . .Discuss . .. enjoy For the rest of ya: I'd love to fly the "Black Hole Bomb" ship from Gunbuster (old school Manga) . . . Basically Jupiter is compressed to 1/30,000 its size into a ship which then can use it to form a black hole. What would I do with the ship? Black mail all of Eve's governments of course . . . |
 Pointless Vengence |
Posted - 2005.07.22 04:49:00 -
[348] For you Trekies: Coaxial Warp Drive . . .Discuss . .. enjoy For the rest of ya: I'd love to fly the "Black Hole Bomb" ship from Gunbuster (old school Manga) . . . Basically Jupiter is compressed to 1/30,000 its size into a ship which then can use it to form a black hole. What would I do with the ship? Black mail all of Eve's governments of course . . . |
Darlan Flame |
Posted - 2005.07.22 05:15:00 -
[349] Well if you follow the 1-10 warp drive warp scale where warp 10 is infinity, a number impossible to go higher than, you realize that every time someone in star trek went past warp 10, it was a lousy writer trying to impress us with bigger numbers, as they were too lazy to follow their own mythos strictly. How do you go past warp 10? Well first you flunk out of community college... |
 Darlan Flame GoonFleet |
Posted - 2005.07.22 05:15:00 -
[350] Well if you follow the 1-10 warp drive warp scale where warp 10 is infinity, a number impossible to go higher than, you realize that every time someone in star trek went past warp 10, it was a lousy writer trying to impress us with bigger numbers, as they were too lazy to follow their own mythos strictly. How do you go past warp 10? Well first you flunk out of community college... |
Kyrie Allayson |
Posted - 2005.07.22 06:46:00 -
[351] Victory class destroyer from B5 :) Victory |
 Kyrie Allayson 0utbreak |
Posted - 2005.07.22 06:46:00 -
[352] Victory class destroyer from B5 :) Victory |
willows |
Posted - 2005.07.22 10:48:00 -
[353]
Unfortunatly this is true. i blame Rick Berman for most of these plot clashes with most Startech. Warp 10 is instant arival anywhere as soon as you leave. no matter the distance between point a and b. Now this is as far as i know never been said in a episode but on that theory warp10+ would infact be time travel. As it would require you to arive before you leave. |
willows |
Posted - 2005.07.22 10:48:00 -
[354]
Unfortunatly this is true. i blame Rick Berman for most of these plot clashes with most Startech. Warp 10 is instant arival anywhere as soon as you leave. no matter the distance between point a and b. Now this is as far as i know never been said in a episode but on that theory warp10+ would infact be time travel. As it would require you to arive before you leave. |
BLAIYNE |
Posted - 2005.07.22 11:29:00 -
[355]
What, you mean a ship that tries to kill it's crew in various nasty ways, then halfway through a fleet battle warps straight to Hell? Yes...I like it! (As long as I don't have to fly it!) |
 BLAIYNE Shadow Play |
Posted - 2005.07.22 11:29:00 -
[356]
What, you mean a ship that tries to kill it's crew in various nasty ways, then halfway through a fleet battle warps straight to Hell? Yes...I like it! (As long as I don't have to fly it!) |
BLAIYNE |
Posted - 2005.07.22 11:40:00 -
[357] Edited by: BLAIYNE on 22/07/2005 11:41:01 Myself, I vote for the Romulan Warbird. Now that's how a cloaking device is supposed to work CCP - none of that hanging around waiting to be killed when you un-cloak. Uncloak, unleash awesome firepower on unsuspecting victim, cloak, be on your way - that's the way to do it! Warbird Oh, and they look cool. |
BLAIYNE Shadow Play |
Posted - 2005.07.22 11:40:00 -
[358] Edited by: BLAIYNE on 22/07/2005 11:41:01 Myself, I vote for the Romulan Warbird. Now that's how a cloaking device is supposed to work CCP - none of that hanging around waiting to be killed when you un-cloak. Uncloak, unleash awesome firepower on unsuspecting victim, cloak, be on your way - that's the way to do it! Warbird Oh, and they look cool. |
fairimear |
Posted - 2005.07.22 13:03:00 -
[359] i love the new warbird valor (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination. |
fairimear Gallente S.A.S Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.07.22 13:03:00 -
[360] i love the new warbird valor Makeing your npc hunters SS. |
BLAIYNE |
Posted - 2005.07.22 13:13:00 -
[361]
Not seen that one - that will do nicely! |
BLAIYNE Shadow Play |
Posted - 2005.07.22 13:13:00 -
[362]
Not seen that one - that will do nicely! |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.22 14:24:00 -
[363]
yup yup, that's the Valdor the Romulans launched in response to the Remans launching their Scimitar in ST: Nemesis. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.22 14:24:00 -
[364]
yup yup, that's the Valdor the Romulans launched in response to the Remans launching their Scimitar in ST: Nemesis. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Necroth |
Posted - 2005.07.22 14:41:00 -
[365] Edited by: Necroth on 22/07/2005 14:45:10 http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/desktoppics/Dart(800x600).jpg http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/desktoppics/Raven(800x600).jpg owned |
 Necroth |
Posted - 2005.07.22 14:41:00 -
[366] Edited by: Necroth on 22/07/2005 14:45:10 http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/desktoppics/Dart(800x600).jpg http://www.ambrosiasw.com/games/evn/desktoppics/Raven(800x600).jpg owned -------- Necroth |
Bellicose |
Posted - 2005.07.22 18:52:00 -
[367] Edited by: Bellicose on 22/07/2005 18:53:36 for a fast ship the Tie-Interceptor would be nice for more firepower id go for a Imperial stardestoryer or a interdictor if i dont want my target to go anywhere for even more firepower id like a a imperial super star destroyer like the Executor but really i think the amarrian frieghter model are a waste would have looked so awesome with a large commandturret in the back and weapon mounts along the sides... have to watch this beautyfull ship and think its just a frikking oversized hauler is a goddamn shame Edit: i almost forgot General Grievous¦s commandship in Revenge of the sith wich also looks pretty nice Who needs a shovel when you have a nice big cannon? KittenArmy capn' crimson |
 Bellicose Gallente Beets and Gravy Syndicate |
Posted - 2005.07.22 18:52:00 -
[368] Edited by: Bellicose on 22/07/2005 18:53:36 for a fast ship the Tie-Interceptor would be nice for more firepower id go for a Imperial stardestoryer or a interdictor if i dont want my target to go anywhere for even more firepower id like a a imperial super star destroyer like the Executor but really i think the amarrian frieghter model are a waste would have looked so awesome with a large commandturret in the back and weapon mounts along the sides... have to watch this beautyfull ship and think its just a frikking oversized hauler is a goddamn shame Edit: i almost forgot General Grievous¦s commandship in Revenge of the sith wich also looks pretty nice Fake Mail |
Budz Fergie |
Posted - 2005.07.23 20:27:00 -
[369] I would like to have my Terran Enforcer ship I had in EnB in this game with the same hp, 175K shields, 72k hull and the same offensive capabilities (40-45k damage every 7 seconds average). Now that would rock! [14:23:44] Seek > lol good tank [14:24:09] Budz Fergie > ty [14:24:14] Seek > :) |
 Budz Fergie Caldari Caldari Deep Space Ventures Caldari Deep Space Industral |
Posted - 2005.07.23 20:27:00 -
[370] I would like to have my Terran Enforcer ship I had in EnB in this game with the same hp, 175K shields, 72k hull and the same offensive capabilities (40-45k damage every 7 seconds average). Now that would rock! ---------- |
Darth Mouse |
Posted - 2005.07.23 22:50:00 -
[371] Edited by: Darth Mouse on 23/07/2005 22:50:27 Dream ship ... mmmm The GTVA Colossus - Freespace 2 It was inshort a BEAST, anyone whos ever played that game will love this ship, and shed a tear when it goes pop ... Piccies Piccies - 2 Mouse -= or maybe the death star, but thats more a carrier =- |
 Darth Mouse Caldari Feral Tendency Ratel Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.23 22:50:00 -
[372] Edited by: Darth Mouse on 23/07/2005 22:50:27 Dream ship ... mmmm The GTVA Colossus - Freespace 2 It was inshort a BEAST, anyone whos ever played that game will love this ship, and shed a tear when it goes pop ... Piccies Piccies - 2 Mouse -= or maybe the death star, but thats more a carrier =- |
SeiferDarx |
Posted - 2005.07.24 00:03:00 -
[373] For me, there is only one spaceship : As quoted by Scotty, the best damn engineer there ever was :( "NCC 1701. No bloody A, B, C, or D." -- Scotty yelling at the Enterprise-D's holodeck computer, Relics |
 SeiferDarx Minmatar Celtic industries Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2005.07.24 00:03:00 -
[374] For me, there is only one spaceship : As quoted by Scotty, the best damn engineer there ever was :( "NCC 1701. No bloody A, B, C, or D." -- Scotty yelling at the Enterprise-D's holodeck computer, Relics |
fairimear |
Posted - 2005.07.24 00:09:00 -
[375] what about E? you know he was druk then. How can u NOT want a Soverign over a Constitution. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination. |
fairimear Gallente S.A.S Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.07.24 00:09:00 -
[376] what about E? you know he was druk then. How can u NOT want a Soverign over a Constitution. Makeing your npc hunters SS. |
Lucian Alucard |
Posted - 2005.07.24 00:17:00 -
[377] "Its like falling in love for the first time with a woman....you will never love a woman the same way again." I think that says enough. I cried when I watched the TNG episode with Scotty in it last night. Thankfully in DS9 they made Obrien a Cheif Engineer. continuing Scotty's legacy of fine Celtic engineers. Undisputed Lord Of The Forums!!! The best joke ever!!!! http://www.livejournal.com/users/sweet__kitty/40953.html?mode=reply |
Lucian Alucard Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System |
Posted - 2005.07.24 00:17:00 -
[378] "Its like falling in love for the first time with a woman....you will never love a woman the same way again." I think that says enough. I cried when I watched the TNG episode with Scotty in it last night. Thankfully in DS9 they made Obrien a Cheif Engineer. continuing Scotty's legacy of fine Celtic engineers. |
terra helll |
Posted - 2005.07.24 00:39:00 -
[379] Edited by: terra helll on 24/07/2005 00:40:02 your are all fools the pillar of autom would crush all no sheilds but armour intregrty of 99.99999% i mean look at the beating it took from a covanat fleet and a crash landing and still in one peice not to meantion a MAC cannon i mean come one a couple tons of metal flying at you is gona hurt alot plus some fighters a crapload of marines and (at one part) a full sqwad of spartans) how can you lose :P P'S (and if all else fails (how will MC fail?) ill pack the sun crusher from starwars in the hold and just fly at your ship and punch though one end ot the other or just crush the sun and claim victory ) EDIT: alt post opps :P |
 terra helll |
Posted - 2005.07.24 00:39:00 -
[380] Edited by: terra helll on 24/07/2005 00:40:02 your are all fools the pillar of autom would crush all no sheilds but armour intregrty of 99.99999% i mean look at the beating it took from a covanat fleet and a crash landing and still in one peice not to meantion a MAC cannon i mean come one a couple tons of metal flying at you is gona hurt alot plus some fighters a crapload of marines and (at one part) a full sqwad of spartans) how can you lose :P P'S (and if all else fails (how will MC fail?) ill pack the sun crusher from starwars in the hold and just fly at your ship and punch though one end ot the other or just crush the sun and claim victory ) EDIT: alt post opps :P |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.24 01:19:00 -
[381] BAH! All of the above would be little more than an effort in ôfiringö for the Dyson Sphere to obliterateà Many hundreds of thousands of kilometers in diameter and powered by its own self contained star. While the logistics of one would be completely unfathomable, we are talking ôdream shipsö. As for locomotion? Well, being big isnÆt necessarily a detriment since it could have something akin to a jump drive to get about all it likes. The armament would easily be in the many orders of magnitude over any ship or its weapon systemsà The death star may be able to destroy a planet with its power, the Dyson Sphere could obliterate entire solar systems merely by passing too closely to them! lol As for how many weapons it could mount, well, if the Sphere is 300,000 Kilometers in diameter (150,000 km radius) it would have a surface area of 282,743,338,833 square-kilometersà in comparison, the Earth has a surface area round about 509,295,817 square-kilometersà so even a ôsmallö Dyson sphere of 300,000 km in diameter would have in the area of 550 TIMES as much area to place goodies of mass destruction upon as even the entirety of Earthà Rather than being limited like a death star with one super laserà why not have HUNDREDS lol More over, why waste time with such a PITTIFUL weapon when a Dyson sphere could easily support dozens or more weapons even far superior to the ôgalaxy gunö Galaxy Gun bigger IS better you see! :D lol All other craft would either be too small to do any significant damage so such an enormous structure, but even opponents like a Death Star wouldnÆt even be able to get within their own targeting radius without their own Roche limit being far surpassed possibly annihilating things like a death star by merely being near it, or the force of gravity wake would be such to either brush any foe aside like a toy. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.24 01:19:00 -
[382] BAH! All of the above would be little more than an effort in ôfiringö for the Dyson Sphere to obliterateà Many hundreds of thousands of kilometers in diameter and powered by its own self contained star. While the logistics of one would be completely unfathomable, we are talking ôdream shipsö. As for locomotion? Well, being big isnÆt necessarily a detriment since it could have something akin to a jump drive to get about all it likes. The armament would easily be in the many orders of magnitude over any ship or its weapon systemsà The death star may be able to destroy a planet with its power, the Dyson Sphere could obliterate entire solar systems merely by passing too closely to them! lol As for how many weapons it could mount, well, if the Sphere is 300,000 Kilometers in diameter (150,000 km radius) it would have a surface area of 282,743,338,833 square-kilometersà in comparison, the Earth has a surface area round about 509,295,817 square-kilometersà so even a ôsmallö Dyson sphere of 300,000 km in diameter would have in the area of 550 TIMES as much area to place goodies of mass destruction upon as even the entirety of Earthà Rather than being limited like a death star with one super laserà why not have HUNDREDS lol More over, why waste time with such a PITTIFUL weapon when a Dyson sphere could easily support dozens or more weapons even far superior to the ôgalaxy gunö Galaxy Gun bigger IS better you see! :D lol All other craft would either be too small to do any significant damage so such an enormous structure, but even opponents like a Death Star wouldnÆt even be able to get within their own targeting radius without their own Roche limit being far surpassed possibly annihilating things like a death star by merely being near it, or the force of gravity wake would be such to either brush any foe aside like a toy. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Lucian Alucard |
Posted - 2005.07.24 02:10:00 -
[383] A most brilliant Idea tho out dated and out classed. Research the Shadows planet killer from Babylon 5 and you will see the true face of galaxy killing horro seeing as there is no way of hitting it. Undisputed Lord Of The Forums!!! The best joke ever!!!! http://www.livejournal.com/users/sweet__kitty/40953.html?mode=reply |
Lucian Alucard Caldari Generals Of Destruction Syndicate Terror In The System |
Posted - 2005.07.24 02:10:00 -
[384] A most brilliant Idea tho out dated and out classed. Research the Shadows planet killer from Babylon 5 and you will see the true face of galaxy killing horro seeing as there is no way of hitting it. |
Cloue |
Posted - 2005.07.24 02:28:00 -
[385] The X-303 Prometheus pic at http://www.netipedia.com/images/c/c6/SGPrometheus.jpg |
 Cloue Gallente Stripping Agency |
Posted - 2005.07.24 02:28:00 -
[386] The X-303 Prometheus pic at http://www.netipedia.com/images/c/c6/SGPrometheus.jpg 8 out of 10 Owners who Expressed a Preference said Their Cats Preferred Gallente Stripping Agency. |
Darlan Flame |
Posted - 2005.07.24 06:10:00 -
[387]
Said force of gravity would be my best friend here, as the sheer size of any structure that could completely encompass a star would most assurdly collapse in on itself almost immediatly. |
Darlan Flame GoonFleet |
Posted - 2005.07.24 06:10:00 -
[388]
Said force of gravity would be my best friend here, as the sheer size of any structure that could completely encompass a star would most assurdly collapse in on itself almost immediatly. |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.24 16:35:00 -
[389]
ummm, no... you see gravity doesn't work that way... your own gravity doesn't work that way, Relativity specifically eliminates that possibility, it is RELATIVE gravity and the wake there of that would obliterate any rinky dink ships or brush them aside like so much litter. The ultra-massive sphere being as big as some entire solar systems unto itself, versus a vessel even such as a death star is hardly the size of a small moonà well, IÆll let you figure on which one would be producing more gravity simply by virtue of being millions upon millions of times more massive. the sphere most certainly wouldn't collapse in on itself as there is nowhere near enough external force to over come such a massive structureÆs natural tensile strength, and itÆs own gravity would only lend strength to it keeping it together... the gravitational force of the star inside would be insignificant compared to the greater field of the sphere itself. the sphere (i.e. one of the strongest shapes known to exist) would perform better with force of constriction, and any impact from the outside would be dissipated across the shape of the sphere. as for the sphere's effect of gravity upon itself, it would be negligible as again the surface of the sphere would again divide any force among the greater whole, and to say that it would collapse in on itself is incorrect, as the same could be said for any super massive structure or planetoid, and they donÆt collapse in upon themselves. In fact, it is their own gravity that gives them the ability to stay in one piece, and gives them cohesive strength, not a weakness. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.24 16:35:00 -
[390]
ummm, no... you see gravity doesn't work that way... your own gravity doesn't work that way, Relativity specifically eliminates that possibility, it is RELATIVE gravity and the wake there of that would obliterate any rinky dink ships or brush them aside like so much litter. The ultra-massive sphere being as big as some entire solar systems unto itself, versus a vessel even such as a death star is hardly the size of a small moonà well, IÆll let you figure on which one would be producing more gravity simply by virtue of being millions upon millions of times more massive. the sphere most certainly wouldn't collapse in on itself as there is nowhere near enough external force to over come such a massive structureÆs natural tensile strength, and itÆs own gravity would only lend strength to it keeping it together... the gravitational force of the star inside would be insignificant compared to the greater field of the sphere itself. the sphere (i.e. one of the strongest shapes known to exist) would perform better with force of constriction, and any impact from the outside would be dissipated across the shape of the sphere. as for the sphere's effect of gravity upon itself, it would be negligible as again the surface of the sphere would again divide any force among the greater whole, and to say that it would collapse in on itself is incorrect, as the same could be said for any super massive structure or planetoid, and they donÆt collapse in upon themselves. In fact, it is their own gravity that gives them the ability to stay in one piece, and gives them cohesive strength, not a weakness. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Darlan Flame |
Posted - 2005.07.24 17:39:00 -
[391]
Well argued, though I still doubt the claim that any mineral in the plethera of human knowledge can possibly be as large as that and not snap under its own weight. This is a structure large enough to completely encompass a star. Stars, which are hundreds of times larger than anything else. Assuming every bit of mass from every solid planet in the solar system was used in an atempt to create a sphere around our sun, would all those minerals even begin to encompass the star? How many planets to a sphere like that? Hell, the last time all the matter that formed earth was close to each other like that, it compressed itself into earth. But you're telling me a structure large enough to encompass a FULL STAR, some of the hugest stellar bodies in exsistance, would act completely normal, just sitting there in the shape we wrought it in. Is there something about steel that makes it act diffrently than all the rest of the matter in the universe? In conclusion, there simply isn't a material in exsistance that could hold a mass as large as a solar system and not collapse in on itself in a hundred diffrent ways. "Snapping under its own weight" comes to mind, as well as "that much steel put together reaches critical mass and becomes a star itself". Has there ever been a solid planet in the history of time that has been as large as a normal star, much less large enough to encompass one? No, never, not once. But as you said way back in your first post, logistics are aside, and thus, I give you your super sun sphere of death. |
Darlan Flame GoonFleet |
Posted - 2005.07.24 17:39:00 -
[392]
Well argued, though I still doubt the claim that any mineral in the plethera of human knowledge can possibly be as large as that and not snap under its own weight. This is a structure large enough to completely encompass a star. Stars, which are hundreds of times larger than anything else. Assuming every bit of mass from every solid planet in the solar system was used in an atempt to create a sphere around our sun, would all those minerals even begin to encompass the star? How many planets to a sphere like that? Hell, the last time all the matter that formed earth was close to each other like that, it compressed itself into earth. But you're telling me a structure large enough to encompass a FULL STAR, some of the hugest stellar bodies in exsistance, would act completely normal, just sitting there in the shape we wrought it in. Is there something about steel that makes it act diffrently than all the rest of the matter in the universe? In conclusion, there simply isn't a material in exsistance that could hold a mass as large as a solar system and not collapse in on itself in a hundred diffrent ways. "Snapping under its own weight" comes to mind, as well as "that much steel put together reaches critical mass and becomes a star itself". Has there ever been a solid planet in the history of time that has been as large as a normal star, much less large enough to encompass one? No, never, not once. But as you said way back in your first post, logistics are aside, and thus, I give you your super sun sphere of death. |
terra helll |
Posted - 2005.07.24 17:56:00 -
[393] a Dyson Sphere would get wtfpwnd by the sun crusher it would fly though whatever armour it had like a hot knife to butter and then oh i dont know crush the sun like the name implys from starwars.com "Armed with the Sun Crusher, Kyp soared to Carida, the heart of the Imperial Academy. Kyp launched the Sun Crusher's resonance torpedoes into Carida's sun, triggering a chain reaction that would destroy the system." this xwing sized sun pwnzor could paste a ssd simply by flying in one side and out the other |
terra helll |
Posted - 2005.07.24 17:56:00 -
[394] a Dyson Sphere would get wtfpwnd by the sun crusher it would fly though whatever armour it had like a hot knife to butter and then oh i dont know crush the sun like the name implys from starwars.com "Armed with the Sun Crusher, Kyp soared to Carida, the heart of the Imperial Academy. Kyp launched the Sun Crusher's resonance torpedoes into Carida's sun, triggering a chain reaction that would destroy the system." this xwing sized sun pwnzor could paste a ssd simply by flying in one side and out the other |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.24 21:02:00 -
[395] lol well I make no claims as to the practicality of a Dyson Sphere, this entire discussion is about ôdream shipsö and in a dream, suspension of practicality is of course a must otherwise it wouldnÆt be a dream but rather a reality now wouldnÆt it? I do however insist that as Einstein very clearly proven, the Dyson SphereÆs own gravitation wouldnÆt make it collapse in upon itself. Relativity holds up VERY well under scrutiny I assure you. Also, saying "Snapping under its own weight" doesnÆt work out as such a thing in space is impossible, as there is no weight in space. Mass is still measurable and important, but even mass can only exert but ôso muchö force at a long distance, and when the already puny force of gravity (among the weakest forces in the universe mind you) has great difficulty exerting great force at great distance, and only at close distances can large bodies actually do great damage with gravity. More importantly, this is important to note, you say the last time that much matter was gathered it compressed into the earth itself? I donÆt know how to break this to you, but the Earth is little more than the garbage the Sun spewed out in its proto-star phases, and as the general mess that was earth circled for millions of years it somewhat scooped up the remaining matter around its orbit path and cohered into one spherical planet. It wasnÆt ôa timeö or even a result of the matter being ôso gravity intensiveö as itÆs relative gravity is microscopic, itÆs merely a side effect of a star vomiting excess material and it coming together slowly over time. Gravity is a VERY weak force and is only significant with colossal masses at close distances. Think about it, even the smallest child can quite easily over come gravity without even really exerting himself by merely standing up. ôThe strong force attracting two protons together is 10^40 (that means a 1 followed by 40 zeroes) times stronger than the force of gravity between themö Gravity you see, relativity is quite powerful but gravity is not, this also exposes just how miniscule the force of gravity is compared to even things like magnetism, and even someone blowing the wrapper off of a soda-straw is MANY TIMES more powerful than gravity if only for a short time. Now as for a ôcritical massö, you also completely ignore the physics behind such a thing, for a critical mass to be attained, it has to be in a central point, but there is no central point for the sphere, as it encompasses the central point which is the star that powers it. Also, per chance do you even know what the gravity effect of a SOLID sphere even 13,000 kilometers in diameter is??? About 1gà i.e. the same gravitational effect as earth since it is approximately that 13,000 kilometers in diameterà also do note, itÆs gravitational effect is diminished to nearly nothing out at the orbit of the moon, approximately 382,000 kilometers away. Only another body like the moon pulling back can even keep itself in orbit by pulling back on the earth itself so the two share their gravitation to hold each other, and the moonÆs shared-pull with Earth causes our tides among many other things. Now, on the moon, the gravity effect of earth is so insignificant that itÆs for all intents and purposes non-existent which is part of why the moonÆs own gravity posed on the astronauts who landed there being about 1/6th of that on earth. So seeing as the walls of the Dyson Sphere would be about this far apart (and that's for a small sphere), the gravitational effect of walls nowhere near 13,000km thick like the earth is would generate hardly a tiniest of fractions of even one earth G force, so cumulatively the gravity effect upon itself from the sphere wouldnÆt even be able to effect the other side of the sphere, thus it couldnÆt crush itself in because it couldnÆt effect the opposing sides enough to do anything to them. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.24 21:02:00 -
[396] lol well I make no claims as to the practicality of a Dyson Sphere, this entire discussion is about ôdream shipsö and in a dream, suspension of practicality is of course a must otherwise it wouldnÆt be a dream but rather a reality now wouldnÆt it? I do however insist that as Einstein very clearly proven, the Dyson SphereÆs own gravitation wouldnÆt make it collapse in upon itself. Relativity holds up VERY well under scrutiny I assure you. Also, saying "Snapping under its own weight" doesnÆt work out as such a thing in space is impossible, as there is no weight in space. Mass is still measurable and important, but even mass can only exert but ôso muchö force at a long distance, and when the already puny force of gravity (among the weakest forces in the universe mind you) has great difficulty exerting great force at great distance, and only at close distances can large bodies actually do great damage with gravity. More importantly, this is important to note, you say the last time that much matter was gathered it compressed into the earth itself? I donÆt know how to break this to you, but the Earth is little more than the garbage the Sun spewed out in its proto-star phases, and as the general mess that was earth circled for millions of years it somewhat scooped up the remaining matter around its orbit path and cohered into one spherical planet. It wasnÆt ôa timeö or even a result of the matter being ôso gravity intensiveö as itÆs relative gravity is microscopic, itÆs merely a side effect of a star vomiting excess material and it coming together slowly over time. Gravity is a VERY weak force and is only significant with colossal masses at close distances. Think about it, even the smallest child can quite easily over come gravity without even really exerting himself by merely standing up. ôThe strong force attracting two protons together is 10^40 (that means a 1 followed by 40 zeroes) times stronger than the force of gravity between themö Gravity you see, relativity is quite powerful but gravity is not, this also exposes just how miniscule the force of gravity is compared to even things like magnetism, and even someone blowing the wrapper off of a soda-straw is MANY TIMES more powerful than gravity if only for a short time. Now as for a ôcritical massö, you also completely ignore the physics behind such a thing, for a critical mass to be attained, it has to be in a central point, but there is no central point for the sphere, as it encompasses the central point which is the star that powers it. Also, per chance do you even know what the gravity effect of a SOLID sphere even 13,000 kilometers in diameter is??? About 1gà i.e. the same gravitational effect as earth since it is approximately that 13,000 kilometers in diameterà also do note, itÆs gravitational effect is diminished to nearly nothing out at the orbit of the moon, approximately 382,000 kilometers away. Only another body like the moon pulling back can even keep itself in orbit by pulling back on the earth itself so the two share their gravitation to hold each other, and the moonÆs shared-pull with Earth causes our tides among many other things. Now, on the moon, the gravity effect of earth is so insignificant that itÆs for all intents and purposes non-existent which is part of why the moonÆs own gravity posed on the astronauts who landed there being about 1/6th of that on earth. So seeing as the walls of the Dyson Sphere would be about this far apart (and that's for a small sphere), the gravitational effect of walls nowhere near 13,000km thick like the earth is would generate hardly a tiniest of fractions of even one earth G force, so cumulatively the gravity effect upon itself from the sphere wouldnÆt even be able to effect the other side of the sphere, thus it couldnÆt crush itself in because it couldnÆt effect the opposing sides enough to do anything to them. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.24 21:08:00 -
[397] as for the sun crushr "going through" the dyson sphere's armor? I think not... Sun Crusher it's a tiny ship, and the Dyson Sphere's walls could EASILY be multiple miles thick... this isn't like flying into a gas giant here, this is a thick wall of solid and practically impenetrable hull. More over, just because the folks in the Starwars universe were incapable of blowing the rinky dink dinghy to bits doesnÆt mean the Dyson Sphere couldnÆt either crush it or simply capture ità Why bother trying to stop it when they could lock a tractor beam on it likely from across the solar system with how much power the dyson sphere has at its immediate disposal, and just forcibly tow the sun crusher in and force it into submission. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.24 21:08:00 -
[398] as for the sun crushr "going through" the dyson sphere's armor? I think not... Sun Crusher it's a tiny ship, and the Dyson Sphere's walls could EASILY be multiple miles thick... this isn't like flying into a gas giant here, this is a thick wall of solid and practically impenetrable hull. More over, just because the folks in the Starwars universe were incapable of blowing the rinky dink dinghy to bits doesnÆt mean the Dyson Sphere couldnÆt either crush it or simply capture ità Why bother trying to stop it when they could lock a tractor beam on it likely from across the solar system with how much power the dyson sphere has at its immediate disposal, and just forcibly tow the sun crusher in and force it into submission. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Zembla |
Posted - 2005.07.24 21:47:00 -
[399]
There's no weight in space? What kind of school taught you things like that? Weight - albeit often misused - still exists, the gravitational pull experienced in space is what defines the weight of an object. In space in fact many forces are toned down, but gravity isn't. Gravity is one of the larger (if not the largest) force to take into accountance when flying through space. Gravity isn't among the weakest forces of the universe either it's got the same inverse-square dependance on range as the magnetical force you claim is much stronger.
True, but there are other forces interacting on the kid as well. And as you say, gravity is the bigger one of these forces. Also, it is very important to make a distinction between contact forces and distant forces.
I doubt that protons will attract each other :) This seriously depends on the distance as well. The Coulomb force is practically the exact same as the Gravitational force only with a different coefficient and with charge instead of matter making up the key values. At the atomic level magnetism outclasses gravity because of the minuscule weight of electrons, yet they have a huge charge (in comparisson). This electrical force is the thing that keeps atoms neutral in charge, ions have magnetical interactions, but two atoms do not have magnetical intereactions on the same basis. So as soon as you're outside of the atomic level you'll find most (if not all) objects to be charge neutral, yet they can contain much mass, so outside of the atomic level you'll notice that gravity is the limiting force, the binding force.
It's the sun's pull that keeps us in orbit, not the reactonary force between the masses of the moon and the earth.
Could you rephrase that one please? --- If the Dyson Sphere (first time I hear of this), was indeed really a star it could be torn apart if coming too close to another star (that other star would be torn apart too). It's impractical for large heavy objects to traverse space because of the tidal forces. Gravity (Fg = (G * m1 * m2)/(r^2)) on large objects causes tidal forces. Because gravity is very dependant on the range to the other mass the gravitational forces experienced by a point on one side (closer to the other mass) are much bigger than the forces on the other side. This difference in pull can tear spaceships (and probably even planets apart). In macroscopic physics it is common to describe objects by their mass-centre, but when a large object comes to close to another mass density, volume and other potential irregularities come into play. <Z> Spread the Z |
Zembla Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.07.24 21:47:00 -
[400]
There's no weight in space? What kind of school taught you things like that? Weight - albeit often misused - still exists, the gravitational pull experienced in space is what defines the weight of an object. In space in fact many forces are toned down, but gravity isn't. Gravity is one of the larger (if not the largest) force to take into accountance when flying through space. Gravity isn't among the weakest forces of the universe either it's got the same inverse-square dependance on range as the magnetical force you claim is much stronger.
True, but there are other forces interacting on the kid as well. And as you say, gravity is the bigger one of these forces. Also, it is very important to make a distinction between contact forces and distant forces.
I doubt that protons will attract each other :) This seriously depends on the distance as well. The Coulomb force is practically the exact same as the Gravitational force only with a different coefficient and with charge instead of matter making up the key values. At the atomic level magnetism outclasses gravity because of the minuscule weight of electrons, yet they have a huge charge (in comparisson). This electrical force is the thing that keeps atoms neutral in charge, ions have magnetical interactions, but two atoms do not have magnetical intereactions on the same basis. So as soon as you're outside of the atomic level you'll find most (if not all) objects to be charge neutral, yet they can contain much mass, so outside of the atomic level you'll notice that gravity is the limiting force, the binding force.
It's the sun's pull that keeps us in orbit, not the reactonary force between the masses of the moon and the earth.
Could you rephrase that one please? --- If the Dyson Sphere (first time I hear of this), was indeed really a star it could be torn apart if coming too close to another star (that other star would be torn apart too). It's impractical for large heavy objects to traverse space because of the tidal forces. Gravity (Fg = (G * m1 * m2)/(r^2)) on large objects causes tidal forces. Because gravity is very dependant on the range to the other mass the gravitational forces experienced by a point on one side (closer to the other mass) are much bigger than the forces on the other side. This difference in pull can tear spaceships (and probably even planets apart). In macroscopic physics it is common to describe objects by their mass-centre, but when a large object comes to close to another mass density, volume and other potential irregularities come into play. <Z> |
fairimear |
Posted - 2005.07.24 21:54:00 -
[401] dyson sphere can't be counted as it's no ship. it's a instilation around a star. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world Domination. |
fairimear Gallente S.A.S Cruel Intentions |
Posted - 2005.07.24 21:54:00 -
[402] dyson sphere can't be counted as it's no ship. it's a instilation around a star. Makeing your npc hunters SS. |
Zembla |
Posted - 2005.07.24 22:22:00 -
[403] Gravity doesn't distinguish between star, ship or whatever. It's all mass... As for stars collapsing on itself... aaactually... if a star gets old enough, and the fusion elements become heavy enough it can explode (supernova) which would leave behind a neutron star (goes around it's axis about once every second). A pinhead of matter from a neutron star is alleged to "weigh" thousands of even millions of metric tonnes. A neutron star can arguable be called a collapsed star... <Z> Spread the Z |
Zembla Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.07.24 22:22:00 -
[404] Gravity doesn't distinguish between star, ship or whatever. It's all mass... As for stars collapsing on itself... aaactually... if a star gets old enough, and the fusion elements become heavy enough it can explode (supernova) which would leave behind a neutron star (goes around it's axis about once every second). A pinhead of matter from a neutron star is alleged to "weigh" thousands of even millions of metric tonnes. A neutron star can arguable be called a collapsed star... <Z> |
Darlan Flame |
Posted - 2005.07.24 23:12:00 -
[405]
You win. |
Darlan Flame GoonFleet |
Posted - 2005.07.24 23:12:00 -
[406]
You win. |
Eonov |
Posted - 2005.07.24 23:29:00 -
[407] It has to be a "shadow" battleship from baylon5, organic so it heals its self, fighter launch capabilty, multi weapon capabilty, independant hyperspace drive (no gates needed) and a decloak insta lock capabilty, its main weaponary has the abilty to cut any other ship in its class in half... and it looks terrifying !! (and sounds). |
 Eonov Octavian Vanguard RAZOR Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.24 23:29:00 -
[408] It has to be a "shadow" battleship from baylon5, organic so it heals its self, fighter launch capabilty, multi weapon capabilty, independant hyperspace drive (no gates needed) and a decloak insta lock capabilty, its main weaponary has the abilty to cut any other ship in its class in half... and it looks terrifying !! (and sounds). Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes |
Arkaine |
Posted - 2005.07.25 01:03:00 -
[409] Edited by: Arkaine on 25/07/2005 01:03:44 A little late but I'm going to have to say the SDF-1. Favorite childhood cartoon. What can I say? |
 Arkaine Evolution Band of Brothers |
Posted - 2005.07.25 01:03:00 -
[410] Edited by: Arkaine on 25/07/2005 01:03:44 A little late but I'm going to have to say the SDF-1. Favorite childhood cartoon. What can I say? |
Tekran |
Posted - 2005.07.25 02:14:00 -
[411] just want to steal an Infested Dominix from those drones.. or change the bonus and dronebay on the Vex enough to let it belch out 35 heavies in a horrifying deathswarm.. mmm.. deathswarm.. |
 Tekran Gallente |
Posted - 2005.07.25 02:14:00 -
[412] just want to steal an Infested Dominix from those drones.. or change the bonus and dronebay on the Vex enough to let it belch out 35 heavies in a horrifying deathswarm.. mmm.. deathswarm.. "I don't wear panties, for the record. Commando 4tw! ~ Abdalion" |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 03:12:00 -
[413] Umm Zembla, I am sorry to tell you this, but Gravity is indeed an incredibly weak force. Indeed gravity is in the order of less than one 10^36th to even one 10^40th as strong as the electro-magnetic forces. To get into the finest details why, I would have to go on a spiel about string theory and how ôbranesö are the in-vogue theory to explain just why gravity is so incredibly weak compared to practically any other force in quantum mechanics and even relativity. General Relativity Gravitation If and when the unifying theory between General Relativity and itÆs associated Universal Law of Gravitation are then properly analogized with Quantum Mechanics, then all the loose ends of the universe may well start to weave together for our physicists and thus explaining some of the things that currently donÆt seem to make sense but according to every measure we know of, the mathematics checks out. But given that Einstein went to his grave without ever coming near that goal, it may be yet on the horizon. there is indeed no ôweightö in space, as weight is a relative measure, which is precisely why ôweightö isnÆt used. Mass is a constant, weight is not. In fact, your weight can vary significantly merely by your location on earth, much less in space. Between standing on the peak of Everest or on the shores of the Dead Sea your weight can vary by quite a significant margin. ôI doubt that protons will attract each other :) This seriously depends on the distance as well. The Coulomb force is practically the exact same as the Gravitational force only with a different coefficient and with charge instead of matter making up the key values. At the atomic level magnetism outclasses gravity because of the minuscule weight of electrons, yet they have a huge charge (in comparisson).ö But you have to compare gravity at the atomic level to the most basic elements of electro-magnetism, and do pre-tell what is the most basic component of ôelectro-anythingö??? An Electron. Also, would you like to know what the ultimate example how just how superior even sub-atomic forces are to gravity??? On the morning of August 6th, 1945à the unquestionable measure of how VASTLY superior even a matter of 60kg of Uranium 235 of which only 0.7kg actually fissioned could unleash more than 13,000 kilotons of explosive force (55 Tera-Joules). Einstein himself actually hit the nail on the head, the amount of energy potential to yield from an atom was equal to its mass times the speed of light squaredà more commonly known as: E=mc^2 Also I believe you misread the passage about the protons, ôThe strong force attracting two protons together is 10^40 (that means a 1 followed by 40 zeroes) times stronger than the force of gravity between themö ôThe gravitational interaction of protons is approximately a factor 1036 weaker than the electromagnetic repulsionö Perhaps that passage from above site on gravitation would be more suitable. ôattractingö in physics doesnÆt necessarily mean they are coming closer together, ôattracting togetherö in this case simply means their strong forces exerting outward that would effect other subatomic particles are effecting upon one another, if one were an electron it would bring it closer, and another proton it would repulse, but both are actually referred to as ôattractionö in physics, and particularly quantum physics as it is the interaction of forces it is describing, not the resulting directional movement toward or away from eachother. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 03:12:00 -
[414] I encourage you to look into the physics of this, consider the electro magnet used in a scrap yard to pick up cars/trucks and suchà now that magnet has the capacity to support not only its own weight should be become ôstuckö to a ferrous metal structure or what have you, but it can also lift metal objects of tremendous weight and over come all of the earths exerted gravitation with considerable ease compared to the mechanical arm that has to support the weight behind the magnet. I assure you, the more you look into it the more you will find that gravity is an astoundingly weak force in comparison to other physical forces, and ESPECIALLY forces like electro-magnetism. Think about it like this, for all of the earthÆs strength of gravity, the chair you are sitting in, and the ground you walk on not only over come gravity with tremendous ease, but everything from the tiniest of bugs and even microbes to the largest of creatures can surpass the miniscule force of gravity exerted on them without significant effort at all. Larger bodies have slightly more trouble as they exert their own forces, but when two forces of tremendous difference in force exert upon each other, one is quite easily overshadowed and practically irrelevant in favor of the superior force. ôIt's the sun's pull that keeps us in orbit, not the reactonary force between the masses of the moon and the earth.ö Ok??? And where did I say otherwise??? I was talking about the forces between the earth and moon causing tides, which is a proven fact, I in no way suggested that causes our orbit of the sun. And again, toward the end of your post, you go into the practicalities of the Dyson Sphere, which is not in debate, weÆre not asking if this thing is ôeconomicalö or even ôlogicalö to use as a combat weapon, we are discussing ôdream shipsö, and as such, itÆs no-holds-barred and as such, the practicalities of any of these ships goes right out the window because itÆs a DREAM lol ôGravity doesn't distinguish between star, ship or whatever. It's all mass...ö well that is of course correct, but HOW the gravity is being exerted can indeed vary based on the mass in question and most especially, over distance the force exerted from gravity diminishes at a tremendous weight as itÆs force is divided by the total surface area of an ever increasing radius to for every single unit of ôstandard measureö you extend the radius that the gravity travels, you literally divide the strength of that gravity by 12.56 times. (Surface Area of a Sphere) so basically, the strength of the gravity at 2 kilometers is not even 1/12th that of the gravity at 1 kilometerà now, imagine the force reduction at 150,000 km??? (one 282,600,000,000th of what it would be at 1km) The physics behind the sphere is quite sound really as itÆs built well beyond the Roche limit of the star and the structure, so its destruction from its own mass and gravity or that of the star is simply not going to happen because itÆs simply not in a position where it would destroy itself. If it was built around a larger star perhaps, or if it was build much much smaller and thus closer to the star, then potentially it could but the star it surrounds and the structure itself are picked/designed with one another in mind. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 03:12:00 -
[415] Umm Zembla, I am sorry to tell you this, but Gravity is indeed an incredibly weak force. Indeed gravity is in the order of less than one 10^36th to even one 10^40th as strong as the electro-magnetic forces. To get into the finest details why, I would have to go on a spiel about string theory and how ôbranesö are the in-vogue theory to explain just why gravity is so incredibly weak compared to practically any other force in quantum mechanics and even relativity. General Relativity Gravitation If and when the unifying theory between General Relativity and itÆs associated Universal Law of Gravitation are then properly analogized with Quantum Mechanics, then all the loose ends of the universe may well start to weave together for our physicists and thus explaining some of the things that currently donÆt seem to make sense but according to every measure we know of, the mathematics checks out. But given that Einstein went to his grave without ever coming near that goal, it may be yet on the horizon. there is indeed no ôweightö in space, as weight is a relative measure, which is precisely why ôweightö isnÆt used. Mass is a constant, weight is not. In fact, your weight can vary significantly merely by your location on earth, much less in space. Between standing on the peak of Everest or on the shores of the Dead Sea your weight can vary by quite a significant margin. ôI doubt that protons will attract each other :) This seriously depends on the distance as well. The Coulomb force is practically the exact same as the Gravitational force only with a different coefficient and with charge instead of matter making up the key values. At the atomic level magnetism outclasses gravity because of the minuscule weight of electrons, yet they have a huge charge (in comparisson).ö But you have to compare gravity at the atomic level to the most basic elements of electro-magnetism, and do pre-tell what is the most basic component of ôelectro-anythingö??? An Electron. Also, would you like to know what the ultimate example how just how superior even sub-atomic forces are to gravity??? On the morning of August 6th, 1945à the unquestionable measure of how VASTLY superior even a matter of 60kg of Uranium 235 of which only 0.7kg actually fissioned could unleash more than 13,000 kilotons of explosive force (55 Tera-Joules). Einstein himself actually hit the nail on the head, the amount of energy potential to yield from an atom was equal to its mass times the speed of light squaredà more commonly known as: E=mc^2 Also I believe you misread the passage about the protons, ôThe strong force attracting two protons together is 10^40 (that means a 1 followed by 40 zeroes) times stronger than the force of gravity between themö ôThe gravitational interaction of protons is approximately a factor 1036 weaker than the electromagnetic repulsionö Perhaps that passage from above site on gravitation would be more suitable. ôattractingö in physics doesnÆt necessarily mean they are coming closer together, ôattracting togetherö in this case simply means their strong forces exerting outward that would effect other subatomic particles are effecting upon one another, if one were an electron it would bring it closer, and another proton it would repulse, but both are actually referred to as ôattractionö in physics, and particularly quantum physics as it is the interaction of forces it is describing, not the resulting directional movement toward or away from eachother. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 03:12:00 -
[416] Edited by: Vivus Mors on 25/07/2005 03:14:39 I encourage you to look into the physics of this, and I assure you, the more you look into it the more you will find that gravity is an astoundingly weak force in comparison to other physical forces, and ESPECIALLY forces like electro-magnetism. Think about it like this, for all of the earthÆs strength of gravity, the chair you are sitting in, and the ground you walk on not only over come gravity with tremendous ease, but everything from the tiniest of bugs and even microbes to the largest of creatures can surpass the miniscule force of gravity exerted on them without significant effort at all. Larger bodies have slightly more trouble as they exert their own forces, but when two forces of tremendous difference in force exert upon each other, one is quite easily overshadowed and practically irrelevant in favor of the superior force. ôIt's the sun's pull that keeps us in orbit, not the reactonary force between the masses of the moon and the earth.ö Ok??? And where did I say otherwise??? I was talking about the forces between the earth and moon causing tides, which is a proven fact, I in no way suggested that causes our orbit of the sun. And again, toward the end of your post, you go into the practicalities of the Dyson Sphere, which is not in debate, weÆre not asking if this thing is ôeconomicalö or even ôlogicalö to use as a combat weapon, we are discussing ôdream shipsö, and as such, itÆs no-holds-barred and as such, the practicalities of any of these ships goes right out the window because itÆs a DREAM lol ôGravity doesn't distinguish between star, ship or whatever. It's all mass...ö well that is of course correct, but HOW the gravity is being exerted can indeed vary based on the mass in question and most especially, over distance the force exerted from gravity diminishes at a tremendous weight as itÆs force is divided by the total surface area of an ever increasing radius to for every single unit of ôstandard measureö you extend the radius that the gravity travels, you literally divide the strength of that gravity by 12.56 times. (Surface Area of a Sphere) so basically, the strength of the gravity at 2 kilometers is not even 1/12th that of the gravity at 1 kilometerà now, imagine the force reduction at 150,000 km??? (one 282,600,000,000th of what it would be at 1km) The physics behind the sphere is quite sound really as itÆs built well beyond the Roche limit of the star and the structure, so its destruction from its own mass and gravity or that of the star is simply not going to happen because itÆs simply not in a position where it would destroy itself. If it was built around a larger star perhaps, or if it was build much much smaller and thus closer to the star, then potentially it could but the star it surrounds and the structure itself are picked/designed with one another in mind. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Luric Vizjier |
Posted - 2005.07.25 04:50:00 -
[417] The Von Braun from System Shock 2, complete with SHODAN and horde of annelids. OR The Death Star. :) OR Shep's Guitar Ship from Interstella 5555 so I could own you to the beat of Daft Punk. OR The Halo from Halo. OR Perhaps an Orbital Frame from Zone of the Enders. Eve should get some mecha. I should make up my mind. :P ------------------------------------------------------------ |
 Luric Vizjier The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.25 04:50:00 -
[418] The Von Braun from System Shock 2, complete with SHODAN and horde of annelids. OR The Death Star. :) OR Shep's Guitar Ship from Interstella 5555 so I could own you to the beat of Daft Punk. OR The Halo from Halo. OR Perhaps an Orbital Frame from Zone of the Enders. Eve should get some mecha. I should make up my mind. :P ----------------------------------------------- |
ghettosmurf |
Posted - 2005.07.25 05:31:00 -
[419] Minmatar shuttle with 1 laser and 1 missile launcher so I can take down the deathstar in the new 11/10 sansha complex. |
 ghettosmurf Minmatar The SMITE Brotherhood Curse Alliance |
Posted - 2005.07.25 05:31:00 -
[420] Minmatar shuttle with 1 laser and 1 missile launcher so I can take down the deathstar in the new 11/10 sansha complex. |
Phoenicia |
Posted - 2005.07.25 06:18:00 -
[421] NSEA Protector II Complete with red & blue particle cannons. "Never give up, never surrender!" ---=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=--- |
 Phoenicia Eidolon Exploration and Exploitation |
Posted - 2005.07.25 06:18:00 -
[422] NSEA Protector II Complete with red & blue particle cannons. "Never give up, never surrender!" |
Aragis Starlancer |
Posted - 2005.07.25 06:23:00 -
[423] ok enough of these dreams you know the ships you dream cannot be created in the world of eve but if there is a little chance to modify our glorious ships that will be a very nice like if we cancel the lowslots and increase the number of highslots or the opposite,that is a ship i dreamed of and they(gods of the universe) can do that i am right people |
 Aragis Starlancer |
Posted - 2005.07.25 06:23:00 -
[424] ok enough of these dreams you know the ships you dream cannot be created in the world of eve but if there is a little chance to modify our glorious ships that will be a very nice like if we cancel the lowslots and increase the number of highslots or the opposite,that is a ship i dreamed of and they(gods of the universe) can do that i am right people |
Zembla |
Posted - 2005.07.25 10:01:00 -
[425]
Gravity has a lower magnitude, but because of its omnipresence it's one of the stronger binding forces.
The string theory is interesting indeed, but they can't start testing it before another 5 years. I haven't really looked into yet either.
No, no, no. That's not what I meant. I meant that weight is an attrictive force experienced by you because of a force of a heavier mass near you. Weight is omnipresent, or rather, gravity is. Your weight won't vary significantly enough, believe me. Also, the easy with which gravity is overcome is the result of a species adapting to it's habitat. I mean, when we jump, it's not as if we can go ballistic or anything.
No, you don't. Gravity at the atomic level indeed has little influence, same as gravity won't really influence the path of light. However, at the macroscopic scale (where gravity has free play) electro-magnetic forces have no effect/influence.
You're comparing chemistry with physics here. I don't really see the relation between a bomb and gravity. I'm not talking about sub-atomic forces, or anything other. I'm talking about the forces we can experience in every day's life, and the forces that are the main obstacles for space-faring. Among those forces gravity is the one you need to take into accountance the most. I'm an engineer and have studied these things in the past. It's not because I don't mention certain common knowledge that I'm not aware of it. No need to point out to me that the basic electro-magnetic element is an electron... which in fact isn't even 100% correct. Chemical reactions and most subatomic reactions can result in enormous ammounts of energy being released from a relatively small mass-interaction. On the other hand, gravity's influence can release enormous ammounts of energy as well. But, I understand where you're coming from, I guess I was just nitpicking (another result of having to study those things in school, makes you picky :)) Anyway, don't want to derail this thread or flame or anything. I stick with the Nostalgia for Infinity though :) <Z> Spread the Z |
Zembla Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.07.25 10:01:00 -
[426]
Gravity has a lower magnitude, but because of its omnipresence it's one of the stronger binding forces.
The string theory is interesting indeed, but they can't start testing it before another 5 years. I haven't really looked into yet either.
No, no, no. That's not what I meant. I meant that weight is an attrictive force experienced by you because of a force of a heavier mass near you. Weight is omnipresent, or rather, gravity is. Your weight won't vary significantly enough, believe me. Also, the easy with which gravity is overcome is the result of a species adapting to it's habitat. I mean, when we jump, it's not as if we can go ballistic or anything.
No, you don't. Gravity at the atomic level indeed has little influence, same as gravity won't really influence the path of light. However, at the macroscopic scale (where gravity has free play) electro-magnetic forces have no effect/influence.
You're comparing chemistry with physics here. I don't really see the relation between a bomb and gravity. I'm not talking about sub-atomic forces, or anything other. I'm talking about the forces we can experience in every day's life, and the forces that are the main obstacles for space-faring. Among those forces gravity is the one you need to take into accountance the most. I'm an engineer and have studied these things in the past. It's not because I don't mention certain common knowledge that I'm not aware of it. No need to point out to me that the basic electro-magnetic element is an electron... which in fact isn't even 100% correct. Chemical reactions and most subatomic reactions can result in enormous ammounts of energy being released from a relatively small mass-interaction. On the other hand, gravity's influence can release enormous ammounts of energy as well. But, I understand where you're coming from, I guess I was just nitpicking (another result of having to study those things in school, makes you picky :)) Anyway, don't want to derail this thread or flame or anything. I stick with the Nostalgia for Infinity though :) <Z> |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 15:14:00 -
[427] The curious thing about all of this is that the case has already been proven with mathematics and word straight from Einstein himself, to which even modern physicists like Steven Hawking have not only proven, but put into application. Even the most simple of experiments can be performed to show how feeble the force of gravity isà STAND UPà there you go, earth for all of its majesty, for all of its mass, canÆt even exert enough force to keep you from having a few muscles flex and create MANY TIMES the force of gravity and simply stand you up. More still though is that on earth, the force of gravity is many times as strong as its exertion in space which is of course further and further away so the force of gravity gets weaker at a rate of 12.56 TIMES weaker for every one unit of standard measure further away you get from the earth. Where does space begin? By the time you even reach what is considered ôspaceö (between 50 and 75 miles above earth) and enter orbit, the force of gravity on earthÆs surface (1g) is chopped down to approximately between 1.12336E-55th to even as little as 3.7651E-83th of its force on earth. THIS is why people float even in orbit, because even 50 miles up gravity isnÆt even 1/1.12336E-55th of what it is here on earthà can you imagine 150,000 kilometers away? 300,000 kilometers away??? The force becomes so insignificant as to have effectively NO influence on people in orbit, which is why they float. Unless of course you want to suggest that NASA has had it wrong all the timeà Maybe being the one and only agency to land a man on another celestial body isnÆt quite enough credibility??? lol ôso, would you like to know what the ultimate example how just how superior even sub-atomic forces are to gravity??? You're comparing chemistry with physics here. I don't really see the relation between a bomb and gravity. I'm not talking about sub-atomic forces, or anything other. I'm talking about the forces we can experience in every day's life, and the forces that are the main obstacles for space-faring. Among those forces gravity is the one you need to take into accountance the most.ö Ehhh??? Ummm, no, I am not comparing chemistry to physics here, I am comparing the strong force of an atom bomb being fissioned (a property of physics) and unleashing more power in one detonation than 13,000 kilotons of TNT explosive(s). This is a physics here in all of its glory, in one instant 0.7kg of fissioned Uranium 235 unleashed so many times more force than gravity that to actually compare numbers would likely take up an entire post of zeroes to show just how much more powerful a MACRO SCALE atomic exertion of force can clearly be demonstrated as the VASTLY superior force to gravity. ôI'm an engineer and have studied these things in the past. It's not because I don't mention certain common knowledge that I'm not aware of it.ö ??? then why do you insist that weight is an attractive force, when it is nothing of the sort, it is a measure of a force (gravity) being exerted on something, but it has absolutely no ôattractive forceö value what so ever. Also, as gravityÆs value changes (more or less) the weight then changes as well, because ôweightö is relative to gravity. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 15:14:00 -
[428] Edited by: Vivus Mors on 25/07/2005 15:21:37 Edited by: Vivus Mors on 25/07/2005 15:15:15 ôGravity has a lower magnitude, but because of its omnipresence it's one of the stronger binding forces.ö ôomnipresensceö ?!?!? LOL weÆre not talking about the almighty here, Gravity exerts in all directions, which could be called ôomni-directionalö, but it is not ôomnipresentö, and again, IÆll remind you that gravity is less than: 1 / 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th as strong as even the electromagnetic forces. ThatÆs one UNDECILLIONTH as strongà or, less than 1 trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth as strong!!! (and thatÆs only at 10^36th measurement, itÆs often accepted as being less than 10^40th as strong) Physicists have LONG since established how pitifully weak gravity is in comparison to other forces, and I assure you gravity VERY quickly takes a back seat to nearly any force, even the strength of a newborn baby is many times the strength of gravity, as the baby can extremely easily reach up its arms and kick against the pull of gravity with only the limitation of the childÆs weak muscles being a limiting factor rather than the miniscule exertion of gravity. ôNo, no, no. That's not what I meant. I meant that weight is an attrictive force experienced by you because of a force of a heavier mass near you. Weight is omnipresent, or rather, gravity is. Your weight won't vary significantly enough, believe me. Also, the easy with which gravity is overcome is the result of a species adapting to it's habitat. I mean, when we jump, it's not as if we can go ballistic or anything.ö I am very sorry, but weight is not ôomnipresentö otherwise Neil Armstrong wouldnÆt have been recorded very clearly as approximately 1/6th of his earth weight on the Moon. Weight it indeed relative (unless of course actually performing the test and Einstein got it all wrong even though they have been proven correct). Also, if weight is ôomnipresentö then perhaps you can explain how in space between the earth and the moon for instance (or even in orbit around the earth) the astronauts and cosmonauts float and have no measurable weightà this is because their weight is only relative to another ôbodyö exerting force on them (gravity) and that relative force of gravity on them can be perceived as ôweightö but weight is NOT an attractive force in any way, it is a measure of the amount of force gravity is exerting on your total mass. What is Mass? as you can see, as clearly documented there MASS is a constant, but mass is NOT weight and weight is NOT mass, mass is a measure of how much ôstuffö is inside the object, and more mass typically translates into more weight, BUT as the description clearly shows, weight is relative to location, so weight is again the effect of gravityÆs exertion on a mass, it is NOT however a mass measure unto itself, and itÆs a measure of the REACTION to an attractive force (gravity) and it is NOT an attractive force unto itself. ôBut you have to compare gravity at the atomic level to the most basic elements of electro-magnetism, and do pre-tell what is the most basic component of ôelectro-anythingö??? No, you don't. Gravity at the atomic level indeed has little influence, same as gravity won't really influence the path of light. However, at the macroscopic scale (where gravity has free play) electro-magnetic forces have no effect/influence.ö Actually, Yes, you doà Gravity even on the macro-scale is tremendously weak compared to even a refrigerator magnet! Think about it, the magnet can hold its own weight with ease against gravity, and support much more weight than its own before gravity can begin to parallel the forces, and thatÆs with a weakly charged magnet ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 15:14:00 -
[429] Edited by: Vivus Mors on 25/07/2005 15:21:37 Edited by: Vivus Mors on 25/07/2005 15:15:15 ôGravity has a lower magnitude, but because of its omnipresence it's one of the stronger binding forces.ö ôomnipresensceö ?!?!? LOL weÆre not talking about the almighty here, Gravity exerts in all directions, which could be called ôomni-directionalö, but it is not ôomnipresentö, and again, IÆll remind you that gravity is less than: 1 / 10,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th as strong as even the electromagnetic forces. ThatÆs one UNDECILLIONTH as strongà or, less than 1 trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth as strong!!! (and thatÆs only at 10^36th measurement, itÆs often accepted as being less than 10^40th as strong) Physicists have LONG since established how pitifully weak gravity is in comparison to other forces, and I assure you gravity VERY quickly takes a back seat to nearly any force, even the strength of a newborn baby is many times the strength of gravity, as the baby can extremely easily reach up its arms and kick against the pull of gravity with only the limitation of the childÆs weak muscles being a limiting factor rather than the miniscule exertion of gravity. ôNo, no, no. That's not what I meant. I meant that weight is an attrictive force experienced by you because of a force of a heavier mass near you. Weight is omnipresent, or rather, gravity is. Your weight won't vary significantly enough, believe me. Also, the easy with which gravity is overcome is the result of a species adapting to it's habitat. I mean, when we jump, it's not as if we can go ballistic or anything.ö I am very sorry, but weight is not ôomnipresentö otherwise Neil Armstrong wouldnÆt have been recorded very clearly as approximately 1/6th of his earth weight on the Moon. Weight it indeed relative (unless of course actually performing the test and Einstein got it all wrong even though they have been proven correct). Also, if weight is ôomnipresentö then perhaps you can explain how in space between the earth and the moon for instance (or even in orbit around the earth) the astronauts and cosmonauts float and have no measurable weightà this is because their weight is only relative to another ôbodyö exerting force on them (gravity) and that relative force of gravity on them can be perceived as ôweightö but weight is NOT an attractive force in any way, it is a measure of the amount of force gravity is exerting on your total mass. What is Mass? as you can see, as clearly documented there MASS is a constant, but mass is NOT weight and weight is NOT mass, mass is a measure of how much ôstuffö is inside the object, and more mass typically translates into more weight, BUT as the description clearly shows, weight is relative to location, so weight is again the effect of gravityÆs exertion on a mass, it is NOT however a mass measure unto itself, and itÆs a measure of the REACTION to an attractive force (gravity) and it is NOT an attractive force unto itself. ôBut you have to compare gravity at the atomic level to the most basic elements of electro-magnetism, and do pre-tell what is the most basic component of ôelectro-anythingö??? No, you don't. Gravity at the atomic level indeed has little influence, same as gravity won't really influence the path of light. However, at the macroscopic scale (where gravity has free play) electro-magnetic forces have no effect/influence.ö Actually, Yes, you doà Gravity even on the macro-scale is tremendously weak compared to even a refrigerator magnet! Think about it, the magnet can hold its own weight with ease against gravity, and support much more weight than its own before gravity can begin to parallel the forces, and thatÆs with a weakly charged magnet ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 15:14:00 -
[430] The curious thing about all of this is that the case has already been proven with mathematics and word straight from Einstein himself, to which even modern physicists like Steven Hawking have not only proven, but put into application. Even the most simple of experiments can be performed to show how feeble the force of gravity isà STAND UPà there you go, earth for all of its majesty, for all of its mass, canÆt even exert enough force to keep you from having a few muscles flex and create MANY TIMES the force of gravity and simply stand you up. More still though is that on earth, the force of gravity is many times as strong as its exertion in space which is of course further and further away so the force of gravity gets weaker at a rate of 12.56 TIMES weaker for every one unit of standard measure further away you get from the earth. Where does space begin? By the time you even reach what is considered ôspaceö (between 50 and 75 miles above earth) and enter orbit, the force of gravity on earthÆs surface (1g) is chopped down to approximately between 1.12336E-55th to even as little as 3.7651E-83th of its force on earth. THIS is why people float even in orbit, because even 50 miles up gravity isnÆt even 1/1.12336E-55th of what it is here on earthà can you imagine 150,000 kilometers away? 300,000 kilometers away??? The force becomes so insignificant as to have effectively NO influence on people in orbit, which is why they float. Unless of course you want to suggest that NASA has had it wrong all the timeà Maybe being the one and only agency to land a man on another celestial body isnÆt quite enough credibility??? lol ôso, would you like to know what the ultimate example how just how superior even sub-atomic forces are to gravity??? You're comparing chemistry with physics here. I don't really see the relation between a bomb and gravity. I'm not talking about sub-atomic forces, or anything other. I'm talking about the forces we can experience in every day's life, and the forces that are the main obstacles for space-faring. Among those forces gravity is the one you need to take into accountance the most.ö Ehhh??? Ummm, no, I am not comparing chemistry to physics here, I am comparing the strong force of an atom bomb being fissioned (a property of physics) and unleashing more power in one detonation than 13,000 kilotons of TNT explosive(s). This is a physics here in all of its glory, in one instant 0.7kg of fissioned Uranium 235 unleashed so many times more force than gravity that to actually compare numbers would likely take up an entire post of zeroes to show just how much more powerful a MACRO SCALE atomic exertion of force can clearly be demonstrated as the VASTLY superior force to gravity. ôI'm an engineer and have studied these things in the past. It's not because I don't mention certain common knowledge that I'm not aware of it.ö ??? then why do you insist that weight is an attractive force, when it is nothing of the sort, it is a measure of a force (gravity) being exerted on something, but it has absolutely no ôattractive forceö value what so ever. Also, as gravityÆs value changes (more or less) the weight then changes as well, because ôweightö is relative to gravity. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Guvante |
Posted - 2005.07.25 16:22:00 -
[431] A discussion on force types in the middle of a dream ship thread, nice derailing there BTW, it is important to not that the only non-graitational force observed on a planar scale is gravity, well except for the magnetic belt that surrounds our planet... Please do not try and compare the strong force and gravity at the distance of an AU or more, considering the only instance of the strong forced observed is within the nucleaus of a single atom, comparing that distance to an AU would require a few more than 40 0's worth of magnitude The problem with electromagnetics on that scale is that matter on a planetary scale is general electrostatically neurtal (Not postive or negative) so electromagnetic forces do not play a part So your arguments on how "punny" gravity is are blatently futile, so give it up I do wonder how a sphere could be made to encompass a star though, as the amount of energy that a star puts out would be enough to melt any material I have ever heard of Back on topic, I think that the Detalius (sp) from Stargate Atlantis is pretty cool, what with teleporting several megaton nuclear devices into the center of its oppisition While in eve I think I would go for the Moros looks pretty cool from my n00b eyes, I like the idea of 3 XL guns and 35 assorted drones as my fire power (Or 35 Harvesting drones to put even a Large Barge to shame in mining potential PS: Yes I love smiles |
 Guvante Aliastra |
Posted - 2005.07.25 16:22:00 -
[432] A discussion on force types in the middle of a dream ship thread, nice derailing there BTW, it is important to not that the only non-graitational force observed on a planar scale is gravity, well except for the magnetic belt that surrounds our planet... Please do not try and compare the strong force and gravity at the distance of an AU or more, considering the only instance of the strong forced observed is within the nucleaus of a single atom, comparing that distance to an AU would require a few more than 40 0's worth of magnitude The problem with electromagnetics on that scale is that matter on a planetary scale is general electrostatically neurtal (Not postive or negative) so electromagnetic forces do not play a part So your arguments on how "punny" gravity is are blatently futile, so give it up I do wonder how a sphere could be made to encompass a star though, as the amount of energy that a star puts out would be enough to melt any material I have ever heard of Back on topic, I think that the Detalius (sp) from Stargate Atlantis is pretty cool, what with teleporting several megaton nuclear devices into the center of its oppisition While in eve I think I would go for the Moros looks pretty cool from my n00b eyes, I like the idea of 3 XL guns and 35 assorted drones as my fire power (Or 35 Harvesting drones to put even a Large Barge to shame in mining potential PS: Yes I love smiles |
O'knar |
Posted - 2005.07.25 16:35:00 -
[433] wow, i didn't expect this to break down to a physics discussion. |
O'knar Grettistak |
Posted - 2005.07.25 16:35:00 -
[434] wow, i didn't expect this to break down to a physics discussion. |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 17:43:00 -
[435]
LOL!!! Well you may think what you will, but Einstein, Steven Hawking, and physics in general doesnÆt agree with youà Now, given that the mathematics and even what has been actually observed in action says exactly contrary to your statement, you wish to suggest that all of the above are incorrect??? You say magnetism (electro or otherwise) isnÆt effective on the planetary scale??? Have you ever used a compass??? Did you know that the Aurora Borealis is specifically cause by the magnetic field of planets??? Oh, and would you mind telling me which of these forces exerts itself to greater effect from earth further out in space and even out to/past the moonÆs orbit, is it earthÆs gravity or its magnetic field??? The magnetic field of earth is still easily observed out past even the moon and even well past 300,000km away from earth, as was observed by the Apollo space program and recorded as such, where as the gravity effect of earth out at the distance of the moonÆs orbit is infinitesimal. By the time gravity gets out that far, the already feeble power of it is reduced by a factor of 0.000000265392781316348 (i.e. the power of gravity is about 2 TEN-MILLIONTHS that of the 1g experienced on earth at such a distance). So your arguments on how gravity supposedly isnÆt "puny" are blatantly futile, so give it up. lol Not only does Physics say very clearly how weak gravity is, but even the mathematics and the physicists themselves universally agree that gravity is a weak force in the universe compared to practically any other significant force. By merely typing this post, I have surpassed all the gravity the earth has to offer hundreds of times with every single key press even my weakest finger exerts many times what earthÆs gravity could ever hope to unleash. The button pressing alone is FAR FAR beyond what gravity can exert on them, otherwise the buttons would always be in the down position now wouldnÆt they??? But it takes the ôcolossalö strength of a PINKY to tap down the shift key??? I am HIGHLY unimpressed with how supposedly powerful gravity is, yet when I put a piece of ferrous metal on an electro-magnet I can EASILY make it hold so forcefully that no man on the planet could possibly pull it free, and it could exert many hundreds if not thousands of times the force that earthÆs puny gravity ever could. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 17:43:00 -
[436]
LOL!!! Well you may think what you will, but Einstein, Steven Hawking, and physics in general doesnÆt agree with youà Now, given that the mathematics and even what has been actually observed in action says exactly contrary to your statement, you wish to suggest that all of the above are incorrect??? You say magnetism (electro or otherwise) isnÆt effective on the planetary scale??? Have you ever used a compass??? Did you know that the Aurora Borealis is specifically cause by the magnetic field of planets??? Oh, and would you mind telling me which of these forces exerts itself to greater effect from earth further out in space and even out to/past the moonÆs orbit, is it earthÆs gravity or its magnetic field??? The magnetic field of earth is still easily observed out past even the moon and even well past 300,000km away from earth, as was observed by the Apollo space program and recorded as such, where as the gravity effect of earth out at the distance of the moonÆs orbit is infinitesimal. By the time gravity gets out that far, the already feeble power of it is reduced by a factor of 0.000000265392781316348 (i.e. the power of gravity is about 2 TEN-MILLIONTHS that of the 1g experienced on earth at such a distance). So your arguments on how gravity supposedly isnÆt "puny" are blatantly futile, so give it up. lol Not only does Physics say very clearly how weak gravity is, but even the mathematics and the physicists themselves universally agree that gravity is a weak force in the universe compared to practically any other significant force. By merely typing this post, I have surpassed all the gravity the earth has to offer hundreds of times with every single key press even my weakest finger exerts many times what earthÆs gravity could ever hope to unleash. The button pressing alone is FAR FAR beyond what gravity can exert on them, otherwise the buttons would always be in the down position now wouldnÆt they??? But it takes the ôcolossalö strength of a PINKY to tap down the shift key??? I am HIGHLY unimpressed with how supposedly powerful gravity is, yet when I put a piece of ferrous metal on an electro-magnet I can EASILY make it hold so forcefully that no man on the planet could possibly pull it free, and it could exert many hundreds if not thousands of times the force that earthÆs puny gravity ever could. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa |
Posted - 2005.07.25 18:21:00 -
[437]
In that case... go bigger, try a Magog Worldship from the serie Andromeda. |
 Shan'Talasha Mea'Questa The Perfect Harvesting Experience |
Posted - 2005.07.25 18:21:00 -
[438]
In that case... go bigger, try a Magog Worldship from the serie Andromeda.
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Marruni |
Posted - 2005.07.25 19:23:00 -
[439] I present to you, the Wild 7 Faction Cruiser W I L D 7 FACTION CRUISER The BPO is in Research so be patient, it is fitted with 3 Railguns. 250MM T2 125MM T2 135MM T2 ( Not out yet ) Along with nice rims and a afterburner. Best Regards Marruni |
 Marruni Wild 7 |
Posted - 2005.07.25 19:23:00 -
[440] I present to you, the Wild 7 Faction Cruiser W I L D 7 FACTION CRUISER The BPO is in Research so be patient, it is fitted with 3 Railguns. 250MM T2 125MM T2 135MM T2 ( Not out yet ) Along with nice rims and a afterburner. Best Regards Marruni |
Zembla |
Posted - 2005.07.25 19:24:00 -
[441] Guvante is right. What I'm trying to say is that on earth, in computers etc, other forces may have a bigger influence. But, because of the same inverse square range dependance and because celestial bodies are charge neutral electromagnetism plays no role when look at the macroscopic scale. Have you ever heard of space billiard? Then tell me again how unimportant gravity is. I've heard arguments like yours 1000 times before, and they're correct as long as they've been placed in the right context, which you don't. If your arguments would apply regardless of context I'm sure my professors wouldn't have taught me things differently. Gravity is an attractive force. Gravity has never been known to repell... or do you sometimes float upwards in the morning? Do not be fooled, it's not because at speeds close the escape velocity astronauts experience little or no gravity, or because the pull of gravity decreases that it's such a weak force. In fact, there still has to be proven (mathematically) that there are forces you need to look at closer when travelling through space. And I'm talking about natural forces. BTW, it's a chemical property that Uranium or Plutonium bombarded with neutrons will split. Physics deals with matter in an abstract manner, never says which substance exactly flies through space, leaves the chemical properties of the mass/charge to the imagination as they are irrelevant to most physical issues (apart from batteries etc etc). <Z> Spread the Z |
Zembla Caldari Contraband Inc. Mercenary Coalition |
Posted - 2005.07.25 19:24:00 -
[442] Guvante is right. What I'm trying to say is that on earth, in computers etc, other forces may have a bigger influence. But, because of the same inverse square range dependance and because celestial bodies are charge neutral electromagnetism plays no role when look at the macroscopic scale. Have you ever heard of space billiard? Then tell me again how unimportant gravity is. I've heard arguments like yours 1000 times before, and they're correct as long as they've been placed in the right context, which you don't. If your arguments would apply regardless of context I'm sure my professors wouldn't have taught me things differently. Gravity is an attractive force. Gravity has never been known to repell... or do you sometimes float upwards in the morning? Do not be fooled, it's not because at speeds close the escape velocity astronauts experience little or no gravity, or because the pull of gravity decreases that it's such a weak force. In fact, there still has to be proven (mathematically) that there are forces you need to look at closer when travelling through space. And I'm talking about natural forces. BTW, it's a chemical property that Uranium or Plutonium bombarded with neutrons will split. Physics deals with matter in an abstract manner, never says which substance exactly flies through space, leaves the chemical properties of the mass/charge to the imagination as they are irrelevant to most physical issues (apart from batteries etc etc). <Z> |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 20:24:00 -
[443] ôGuvante is rightö actually, Einstein and Steven Hawking take top honors here, and they disagree with you and Guvante quite clearly. If you and Guvante would like to propose your own theories of universal gravitation and general relativity however, IÆm sure weÆd all be more than happy to consider your counter to the established position on the matter. (which by the way has been proven already) ôGravity is an attractive force. Gravity has never been known to repell... or do you sometimes float upwards in the morning?ö I never said otherwise, however what is in question is that you said: ôI meant that weight is an attrictive force experienced by you because of a force of a heavier mass near you.ö Weight, and how ôheavyö you happen to be somewhere has absolutely NO attractive force of any kind. ôweightö is not a attracting force, end of story. GRAVITY as I have said and the physics clearly defines is an attractive force, but gravity is NOT weight, weight is a RELATIVE measure of the effect of gravity on your MASS. But apparently ôGravity has never been known to repellö you also donÆt understand that massive objects moving through space exert force on the objects around them. Gravity has a side effect of while smaller objects may be drawn toward the larger, it also has to contend with the angle of movement in relation to each other, and if the angle of approach between the two objects is too oblique, the gravity pulling it in ends up pulling it toward the object, and as the larger object continues to move and the angle is too oblique, the smaller object can literally be pulled across the orbit arc and then hurled to the side by the inertia the object builds from the exertion of force the gravity causes. This is how every single one of the Apollo space craft reached the moon, it was impractical to load enough fuel to ôpowerö their way the whole trip, so the orbiter simply circled the earth several times building up speed and then sharpened the angle so much as to use gravity itself as a slingshot to hurl themselves toward the moon with nothing by the power GRAVITY could exert to THROW them away. Indeed gravity is an ôattractiveö force, but it doesnÆt always mean itÆs going to draw you in, professing your profound knowledge of physics, it would seem you would already know thatà ôBTW, it's a chemical property that Uranium or Plutonium bombarded with neutrons will split. Physics deals with matter in an abstract manner, never says which substance exactly flies through space, leaves the chemical properties of the mass/charge to the imagination as they are irrelevant to most physical issues (apart from batteries etc etc).ö WHAT?!?!? LOL I donÆt know who told you that, but they need to take another look into what fission is. Would you mind telling the class what field of science Niels Bohr was in? (early creator of Quantum Physics) Perhaps James Chadwick? (discovered the neutron) Or perhaps the creator of the theory that led directly to the theory and eventual creation of an atomic bomb, E=mc^2, without which the atomic bomb and even ôhisö letter to FDR may not have allowed the American development of the Manhattan Project??? ôHeö was Albert Einestein Albert Einestein, and he was known for: (a) Chemistry (b) Physics (c) Crazy hair (d) Answers B & C First off, physics is intimately linked to matter and deals with it VERY literally. Otherwise physics would only ever deal with ôforcesö which have no physical essence which is why they are a force and not matter. Physics indeed approaches matter VERY literally, and has to take into account the properties of matter to properly take into account how a force may interact with it. Also, ôchemicalö properties are a direct result of physical interactions, and the resulting effects are physics. So by extension, chemistry is merely a branch of physics and the quantum components of it. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 20:24:00 -
[444] For instance, Uranium 235 fissioning is VERY MUCH a matter for physics to measure and determine the amount of energy it can unleash (E=mc^2). Quantum Physics revolves entirely around MATTER and how it performs at the sub atomic level. The PHYSICAL property of super-heavy atoms to crumble or fission when bombarded with neutrons releases tremendous amounts of energy as well as unleashing more neutrons from the split atoms (3 neutrons per every atom of Uranium 235 fissioned) and the more neutrons released the more additional atoms of U235 are hit by those additional neutrons and themselves split. This is PHYSICS, and the energy they release is PHYSICS, and the resulting force of that energy being released and its colossal potential for devastating power. You may ôbelieveö that gravity is a comparably strong force, but compared to even weak magnetism, gravity is less than 1 trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth as strong. The mathematics shows it. Einstein proved it with his universally accepted formula of Universal Gravitation. The entire physics community accepts and can separately prove it in their own way. ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 20:24:00 -
[445] ôGuvante is rightö actually, Einstein and Steven Hawking take top honors here, and they disagree with you and Guvante quite clearly. If you and Guvante would like to propose your own theories of universal gravitation and general relativity however, IÆm sure weÆd all be more than happy to consider your counter to the established position on the matter. (which by the way has been proven already) ôGravity is an attractive force. Gravity has never been known to repell... or do you sometimes float upwards in the morning?ö I never said otherwise, however what is in question is that you said: ôI meant that weight is an attrictive force experienced by you because of a force of a heavier mass near you.ö Weight, and how ôheavyö you happen to be somewhere has absolutely NO attractive force of any kind. ôweightö is not a attracting force, end of story. GRAVITY as I have said and the physics clearly defines is an attractive force, but gravity is NOT weight, weight is a RELATIVE measure of the effect of gravity on your MASS. But apparently ôGravity has never been known to repellö you also donÆt understand that massive objects moving through space exert force on the objects around them. Gravity has a side effect of while smaller objects may be drawn toward the larger, it also has to contend with the angle of movement in relation to each other, and if the angle of approach between the two objects is too oblique, the gravity pulling it in ends up pulling it toward the object, and as the larger object continues to move and the angle is too oblique, the smaller object can literally be pulled across the orbit arc and then hurled to the side by the inertia the object builds from the exertion of force the gravity causes. This is how every single one of the Apollo space craft reached the moon, it was impractical to load enough fuel to ôpowerö their way the whole trip, so the orbiter simply circled the earth several times building up speed and then sharpened the angle so much as to use gravity itself as a slingshot to hurl themselves toward the moon with nothing by the power GRAVITY could exert to THROW them away. Indeed gravity is an ôattractiveö force, but it doesnÆt always mean itÆs going to draw you in, professing your profound knowledge of physics, it would seem you would already know thatà ôBTW, it's a chemical property that Uranium or Plutonium bombarded with neutrons will split. Physics deals with matter in an abstract manner, never says which substance exactly flies through space, leaves the chemical properties of the mass/charge to the imagination as they are irrelevant to most physical issues (apart from batteries etc etc).ö WHAT?!?!? LOL I donÆt know who told you that, but they need to take another look into what fission is. Would you mind telling the class what field of science Niels Bohr was in? (early creator of Quantum Physics) Perhaps James Chadwick? (discovered the neutron) Or perhaps the creator of the theory that led directly to the theory and eventual creation of an atomic bomb, E=mc^2, without which the atomic bomb and even ôhisö letter to FDR may not have allowed the American development of the Manhattan Project??? ôHeö was Albert Einestein Albert Einestein, and he was known for: (a) Chemistry (b) Physics (c) Crazy hair (d) Answers B & C First off, physics is intimately linked to matter and deals with it VERY literally. Otherwise physics would only ever deal with ôforcesö which have no physical essence which is why they are a force and not matter. Physics indeed approaches matter VERY literally, and has to take into account the properties of matter to properly take into account how a force may interact with it. Also, ôchemicalö properties are a direct result of physical interactions, and the resulting effects are physics. So by extension, chemistry is merely a branch of physics and the quantum components of it. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 20:24:00 -
[446] For instance, Uranium 235 fissioning is VERY MUCH a matter for physics to measure and determine the amount of energy it can unleash (E=mc^2). Quantum Physics revolves entirely around MATTER and how it performs at the sub atomic level. The PHYSICAL property of super-heavy atoms to crumble or fission when bombarded with neutrons releases tremendous amounts of energy as well as unleashing more neutrons from the split atoms (3 neutrons per every atom of Uranium 235 fissioned) and the more neutrons released the more additional atoms of U235 are hit by those additional neutrons and themselves split. This is PHYSICS, and the energy they release is PHYSICS, and the resulting force of that energy being released and its colossal potential for devastating power. You may ôbelieveö that gravity is a comparably strong force, but compared to even weak magnetism, gravity is less than 1 trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth as strong. The mathematics shows it. Einstein proved it with his universally accepted formula of Universal Gravitation. The entire physics community accepts and can separately prove it in their own way. ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
Ronin Woman |
Posted - 2005.07.25 21:03:00 -
[447] My dream ship is one that - never gets stuck in any system - ever. |
 Ronin Woman |
Posted - 2005.07.25 21:03:00 -
[448] My dream ship is one that - never gets stuck in any system - ever. |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 21:23:00 -
[449]
LOL yeah, me too, but we all know that's REALLY a dream ship ------------------------------------------------- For the price of one can of Quafe cola a day, you can adopt an Ewok... Please... think of the Ewoks... |
Vivus Mors |
Posted - 2005.07.25 21:23:00 -
[450]
LOL yeah, me too, but we all know that's REALLY a dream ship ------------------------------------------------ UPDATED March 11 Formal request for improvements to industrialism |
 urieken |
Posted - 2007.06.27 10:23:00 -
[451] I would really love to drive a Nupetiet Vergnitzs(Those 4km long Zentraedi Flagships) and fire its main guns just like the one the SDF-1 has. And those small cannons that pops out of its hull. Also launching a ton of missiles all at once. That new gallente battleship has some similarities in its bow. |
 lofty29 Infinitus Odium |
Posted - 2007.06.27 10:35:00 -
[452] HOLY NECRO BATMAN!!!!!!!!! Project Mayhem |
 Admus Mobius Construct Knights Of the Southerncross |
Posted - 2007.06.27 10:40:00 -
[453] It is summer. Lie back and ***** open a cold one. ---------------------------------------------------------- "Villains always have antidotes. They're funny that way." |
 Erim Solfara Amarr House of Solfara |
Posted - 2007.06.27 11:18:00 -
[454] Zodical Light from the Alastair Reynolds books, I don't fancy the Nostalgia for Infinity, would be too hard living in it. A new tool in the fight for balance? |
 PraetorNZ Axe Gang |
Posted - 2007.06.27 11:21:00 -
[455]
hell yea. once you saw that powering up you knew something was about to get hurt |
 Thor Xian EarthForce E.A.R.T.H. Federation |
Posted - 2007.06.27 11:36:00 -
[456] Edited by: Thor Xian on 27/06/2007 11:36:04 Overlord The Overlord class is the largest Sub-Capital warship of the Amarr Empire. Its heavy armaments and strong front are specially designed to crash into any battle like a juggernaut and deliver swift justice in the name of the Emperor. Juggernauts Skill Bonus: 10% bonus to Capital and Large Energy Turret capacitor use and 5% Capital and Large Energy Turret rate of fire per level. 99% reduction in the PG need for Capital Energy Turrets (max 2). 99% reduction in the CPU need of Warfare Link modules. Primary Skill Required: Amarr Battleship 3 -Spaceship Command 4 -Amarr Cruiser 4 --Spaceship Command 3 --Amarr Frigate 4 ---Spaceship Command 1 Secondary Skill Required: Juggernauts I -Spaceship Command 5 PG - 22000 MW CPU - 540 tf 8/3/8 [8 Turrets/2 Launchers] 7000 Hull HP 7000 Shield HP 8500 Armor HP 90 m/s Max Velocity 200 m3 Dronebay 1000 m3 Cargobay 140000000 kg 10000 Capacitor 95 km targeting range 26 Radar Sensor Strength 460 m Signature Radius 85 mm Scan Resolution Base Price: 245,000,000 ISK NOTES: No Jump Drive, may or may not have the special ability to use the prototype Star Navigation Drive Array (Self targeted Jump Drive that locks on stars, not Cynos, 1 ly range), but cannot use Cyno Field Generators on the same ship as SNDA. ________________________________________ ~Fleet Admiral Thor Xian, Strategic Commander |
 VaderDSL Caldari Incoherent Inc Otaku Invasion |
Posted - 2007.06.27 11:47:00 -
[457] Sathanas class juggernaut Blob a system with them and make the star go nova, then jump out of system, no more POS warfare |
 dralid M. Corp M. PIRE |
Posted - 2007.06.27 11:48:00 -
[458] Galactica Battlestar !! Where do the wild roses grow? |
 Gefex Novastorm Inc Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2007.06.27 12:01:00 -
[459]
I concur, the ability to turn into a BIG FRIKKIN ROBOT > All |
 Zero Legion |
Posted - 2007.06.27 12:22:00 -
[460] The SUn Crusher from the Star Wars Books, Size Speed and Agility of a fighter, Nigh Indestructable Destroys Solarsystems in 1 shot. Hells yeah We are nothing, formless and void. We are a lack of all. Alone we are powerless, together we are unstoppable. WE ARE LEGION!!!! |
 Quilan Masaq Caldari Combat Systems |
Posted - 2007.06.27 12:25:00 -
[461] Edited by: Quilan Masaq on 27/06/2007 12:28:59 Shivan Juggernaught http://www.hard-light.net/wiki/index.php/SJ_Sathanas It'd be Titan Class though...
Doh, just beaten to it! Didn't see that til after I posted :D |
 Eben Voord |
Posted - 2007.06.27 12:26:00 -
[462] Can't believe no one mentioned this one....Battlestar Pegasus, with a full wing of Vipers and Raptors. Seeing her take on three Basestars was pretty cool, even though she took out the last one with a rather terminal combat maneuver. |
 Fenris Maelstrom |
Posted - 2007.06.27 12:29:00 -
[463] Would like to use the Pillar of Autumn from Halo myself... 3 Shiva Tactical nukes of which one is mounted on a remote controlled fighter Over 300 missile pods each holding dozens of missiles MAC cannon which can fire 3 consecutive shots.... 4 autocannons on the underside with overlapping fields of fire A hangar with room for several pelican dropships and longsword fighter squadrons.... And an incredibly strong structure (probably stronger than the armour and shields put together )Add to that a shield generator and it's good to go, what's not to like? ....Or if I want to go overkill give me High Charity ^_^ |
 Tillsiter The Guardian Agency Guardian Federation |
Posted - 2007.06.27 12:39:00 -
[464] OLD MAN - out of perry rhodan would be fun launching about 8k bs sized ships for your own use :) ------------- My tiny Invention Spreadsheet |
 kill0rbunny Alpha-Hirogen Phoenix Allianz |
Posted - 2007.06.27 12:42:00 -
[465] The Lexx. With the chicks of course. I pew therefore I am. |
 Johncrab Minmatar Typo Corp |
Posted - 2007.06.27 16:53:00 -
[466] The Nubian from Star Wars. Hard to find a better looking ship. The fleet pest |
 vanBuskirk Caldari |
Posted - 2007.06.27 17:24:00 -
[467] Wow! 9 pages and nobody's put this one in. Xeelee Nightfighter from Stephen Baxter's future history - shields that divert incoming fire into hyperspace, beam weapons (starbreaker beams) that can tear apart planets with focused gravity, and a speed of about 100 million lightyears per second at full power. Plus it has a permanently operating cloak, and is thought controlled. ---------------------------------------------- "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent." |
 Cladius Mithra Exanimo Inc Triumvirate. |
Posted - 2007.06.27 18:27:00 -
[468] entity's state raven is pretty sexy entity's state issue raven |
 Enduros |
Posted - 2007.06.27 18:51:00 -
[469] hmm.. "Excalibur" from Babylon 5: The Crusade Better looking then a Whitestar and packing Vorlon tech. |
 Quebber Caldari Beets and Gravy Syndicate |
Posted - 2007.06.27 18:57:00 -
[470] all prob already been mentioned but: Borg tactical Cube: with ability to transport drones into enemy ship and capture it Farscape Scarran battleships: with super weapon wormhole technology that would be kool and a new structre: Death Star |
 Rilder Caldari THC LTD |
Posted - 2007.06.27 19:00:00 -
[471] Chimera, not that expensive a ship comparitvily but it's just a ship I eventully wanna say "I flew" or "I fly" On more realistic scale, a Machariel. Visit my blog =)http://rilderslog.blogspot.com/ |
 Byzan Zwyth Dark Centuri Inc. Firmus Ixion |
Posted - 2007.06.27 19:34:00 -
[472]
I can see the patch notes now: "The typhoon's missile bonus has been changed to a target painter bonus" ---------------------- Rank: Tech 1 and a 1/2 cannon fodder Pointless forum slowing bandwidth hogging signature pic inc? |
 Scordite |
Posted - 2007.06.27 23:37:00 -
[473] Ibis. ----------------------------------------------- The only legitimate use of the BLINK tag: Schr÷dinger's cat is [BLINK] not [/BLINK] dead. |
 Lore Isander Caldari Sybrite Inc. |
Posted - 2007.06.28 05:35:00 -
[474] What I just bought and what I have always wanted  --- |
 DeadDuck Amarr Infinite Improbability Inc Mostly Harmless |
Posted - 2007.06.28 06:03:00 -
[475] A Tec2 Harbinger would be enough really Who knows, maybe it is released |
 Rhyothyn Armee der Finsternis |
Posted - 2007.06.28 06:47:00 -
[476]
I loled so hard...can't even stop to smile and shake my head...and lol again... |
 Aem White-Noise Corelum Syndicate |
Posted - 2007.06.28 07:36:00 -
[477] Asguard Mothership - Ancient Technology and the ability to disintergrate any surrounding ship. (and some of those mean drones that almost destroyed the entire race as my drones =D) |
 Cilppiz Minmatar FinFleet |
Posted - 2007.06.28 07:46:00 -
[478] Minmatar Rebel Typhoon! Just like normal phoon expect: - 10% more PG - Armor and shield HP changed around + typical HP boost for faction BS - 5% ROF to projectiles per Matar BS lvl - 5% ROF on missiles per Caldari BS lvl - 5% Damage and hitpoints to drones per Gallente BS lvl Yeah and I would need BPO ofcourse /me Drools  |
Quilan Masaq Caldari Combat Systems |
Posted - 2007.06.28 08:05:00 -
[479]
I'd take it. Love the Phoon to bits As for cool ships that would never get put into EVE. I would love a Culture GSV:
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MOS DEF 0utbreak |
Posted - 2007.06.28 08:49:00 -
[480]
I think your first dream ship is ingame. There is only to opux luxury yachts tho. |
 Jonay 3B Legio IX Atlas Alliance |
Posted - 2007.06.28 08:53:00 -
[481] Arcadia from captain harlock or Yamato from uchuu senkan yamato. |
 Mercy Hunter |
Posted - 2007.06.28 09:46:00 -
[482]
Yep, this be my choice. |
 Devoras2 Amarr KIA Corp KIA Alliance |
Posted - 2007.06.28 09:57:00 -
[483]
Scimitar (Reman Warbird), not Sabre from the last movie "Star Trek Nemesis" Picard: Tactical analysis Mr.Worf Worf: 52 Disruptor banks, 27 photon torpedo bays, primary and secondary shields. Picard: She`s a predator... You fecking bet it is! Gimme that ship or make it so! It's great being Amarr, aint it? |
 Oldwalker |
Posted - 2007.06.28 11:50:00 -
[484] For me it would have to be a borg tactical cube, adaptability ina fight as well as sheer fire power and to boot it is able to run when 78% of it is destroyed due to there being no centralization in ship systems. or we could go one better and have that ship from star trek armada 2 where 9 tactical cubes would join together and form a massive one |
 Minnow maught Art of War Cult of War |
Posted - 2007.06.28 12:11:00 -
[485] Why have 1 ship when you can have all your enemies and their pods ... Borg Cube for me !! |
 DarkElf Veto. Veto Corp |
Posted - 2007.06.28 12:16:00 -
[486]
lol i remember that one. plus it can fire while cloaked = da pwn DE |
 ImmortaL ZoorZ kleptomaniacs |
Posted - 2007.06.28 17:19:00 -
[487] I would like to fly a kestrel with 8 highs and precision cruise missiles and have 99% res on shield, armor and structure with factions reps etc and infinite cap + 100% bonus to web and scram range per level. Infact id just like to hire the whole of concord for afew days |
 Caios Caldari Unified Refining Federation Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2007.06.28 17:39:00 -
[488] nanotitan |
 SFShootme The Carebear Stare |
Posted - 2007.06.28 17:50:00 -
[489] cerb with all slots enabled. - Tho shall give Life, for Life. |
 Fresh Prinz |
Posted - 2007.06.28 18:09:00 -
[490] teh blakc pearl... i want space ship boats! |
 Shereza |
Posted - 2007.06.28 21:25:00 -
[491] I'd want one of my modified (read that as cheat) ships from Stars! 15 hardpoints capable of mounting 100 items per hardpoint. I'd want it without rollover on shield and armor HP as well. It'd have roughly 180k armor and 50k shield, possibly 330k armor and 100k shields with another hardpoint dedicated to 100 alien miners so that I could strip mine whole planets in short order and get 98% cloaking, 95% torpedo jamming, and maximum movement rate. That leaves 1 hardpoint for battle nexi for maximum initiative and accuracy on torpedos and 9 for lasers and torpedos, enough to wipe out 20-30 battleships per salvo. In EVE terms it would probably be a T2 or T3 titan, or perhaps a T2 faction titan. |
 Multimedia Carl |
Posted - 2007.06.28 21:31:00 -
[492] Edited by: Multimedia Carl on 28/06/2007 21:30:46 Edited by: Multimedia Carl on 28/06/2007 21:30:09 An old WW2 Hurricane Mark II From the games Il-2 sturmovik Pwns all |
 Captain Powers |
Posted - 2007.06.28 22:18:00 -
[493] Edited by: Captain Powers on 28/06/2007 22:21:34 Wow, my dream ship that could destroy a titan and still have fighters to kill the remaining fleet would be..... The Super Dimension Fortress SDF-1 from Macross or Robotech creation. Now that is ship to ship fighting with style and looks so cool transforming. Wonder what ice would be used to fuel the jump drives? Why have walk in stations when your ship can walk... Talk about your solo pwnmobile. |
 Nicocat Caldari New Age Solutions New Age Solutions Amalgamated |
Posted - 2007.06.28 22:24:00 -
[494]
You shut your ******* mouth, Tux might be here!
Down with alts! One character per account per IP! |
 Lammetak NL |
Posted - 2007.06.28 22:41:00 -
[495]
YEAH ancient ships ftw!! |
 Geddiz Foundation of Extropian Independents |
Posted - 2007.06.28 23:26:00 -
[496] The League dreadnought from Colony Wars. <3 |
 Dark Monarh |
Posted - 2007.06.29 04:05:00 -
[497] what about kamikaze ships that deal dmg when they selfdestroy kinda minidoomdevice:) |
 Btik |
Posted - 2007.06.29 05:29:00 -
[498] LEX |
 Ryan Scouse'UK |
Posted - 2007.06.29 06:31:00 -
[499] Edited by: Ryan Scouse''UK on 29/06/2007 06:30:36 Amarr titan .. with the movement of a ARES with 10 x NANO + Stabs Mass 1000 the lows fitted for 1 plate 95% to all resist 2 x 50% dmg mods.. 2 x 50% tracking mods , Large cap repper.. 20k repair per 5 seconds . cap usage 400 MWD - 900% Base speed 540 Turrets = 16 Missle hardpoints 24 Highs 24 Meds 10 Lows 10 Drone bay 2000 Drone units 50 |
 Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries |
Posted - 2007.06.29 07:04:00 -
[500] Edited by: Naomi Wildfire on 29/06/2007 07:08:02 The Spaceship out of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" with his special drive that turns everyone into fluffy puppets out of whool :) or maybe a ship Battleship from the unknown Race out of the Movie Babylon5: Thirdspace Dont know what its abilities are but it must be very powerful :) Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit on the forums. -Darth Patches |
 Toros Revoke STK Scientific M. PIRE |
Posted - 2007.06.29 07:32:00 -
[501] The Black Pearl! I know it's made of wood but I'm sure it could be made to work by sheer power of badassery! |
 Nick Parker Caldari Rogue Elements |
Posted - 2007.06.29 08:13:00 -
[502] Thanks god for other freesapce fans Anyone know of a working server to play on During daily Downtime? Valkyrie class fighter Big ships? A remote controlled even horizon that I could put YOU in and fire off the Grave er I mean Grav Drive. Or a Fully functioning Atlantis or one of those Ori Ships with the big Tachyon cannon. That is how gigabeams should look. |
 nthexwn Amarr |
Posted - 2007.06.29 09:57:00 -
[503] Sathanas hands down. One of my favorite gaming moments of all time was one of the optional side missions in Freespace 2 where you jump through a portal to recon the Shivan fleet and your entire view is filled up by one of these behemoths and you immediately hear "DIVE DIVE DIVE"! Somebody here's gotta know what I'm talking about? :P The Shivans also > any race from the *cough* space operas that you'll find on TV. They actually look alien and are obviously more than just actors with fancy makeup or pointy elf ears, *cough*... http://ui19.gamespot.com/562/shivan.jpg |
 Stork DK FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance |
Posted - 2007.06.29 11:16:00 -
[504] This :D Stats Class: Frigate Faction: Jove Name: Wraith Awesomeness: ****** -------------- If i could be a Super Hero, i would be AwesomeMan Matari Ate The Amarrian Race |
Stork DK FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance |
Posted - 2007.06.29 11:22:00 -
[505] Scrap da frigate.... THIS IS LEET!!! Mmm Sex! -------------- If i could be a Super Hero, i would be AwesomeMan Matari Ate The Amarrian Race |
Naomi Wildfire Amarr Stardust Heavy Industries |
Posted - 2007.06.29 16:00:00 -
[506]
Yeah, the Battle with the Colossus and the Sathanas, Freespace is a great series, i thought about that ships too Signature Your signature exceeds the 24000 byte limit on the forums. -Darth Patches |
 Citnella |
Posted - 2007.06.30 08:59:00 -
[507] Sol Bianca the pirate ship.. form the anime Sol Bianca... of cos.. |
 Pronqueen |
Posted - 2007.07.01 16:06:00 -
[508] Shuttle with all 4 doomsday devices mounted and a siege mode allowing it to move and bubble scram resist lol. Da PWN!! |
 Zrauz |
Posted - 2007.07.01 16:37:00 -
[509] the heart of gold complete with depressed androids |
 Sanzorz Amarr EVEfan.dk |
Posted - 2007.07.01 17:53:00 -
[510] The Protoss Mothership from Starcraft 2. Why use a DDD when you can open a black hole and swallow anything no matter their size and hp? --- Member of the Danish Evefan.DK corp |
 Terianna Eri Amarr STK Scientific M. PIRE |
Posted - 2007.07.02 01:04:00 -
[511] The DeLorean! Alternatively, the Calnus (and the ships of similar model) from the Star Ocean series. __________________________________ |
 DutchyMan |
Posted - 2007.07.02 04:59:00 -
[512] Edited by: DutchyMan on 02/07/2007 05:01:05 I love the leviathan Leviathan Heavy Battleship (Battletech) When it was a transport it could carry 250k people, as a battleship it will vape anything with a single broadside ^^. for those who dont know anything about battletech, anything with an "N" in front of it is a naval (BS-Capital) sized weapon at the bottom of the page. Oh, and it carriers 300 fighters... :D |
 Zala Hoto |
Posted - 2007.07.02 05:39:00 -
[513] how about......a fully built and outfitted Ragnarok.....IN REAL LIFE!!! MUWAHAHAHAHAHHAAHHHAAAHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! |
 MouseOnMars The Scope |
Posted - 2007.07.02 06:48:00 -
[514]
I agree. A research ship would be an AWESOME addition to eve. Get the scientists out of the stations and out doing field trips. Personally I'd like to fly the Battlecruiser from Star Craft, My Space Whaler, the Pillar Of Autumn, freelancer coalition warship. |
 Bardi MecAuldnis Amarr Sp00t |
Posted - 2007.07.02 08:26:00 -
[515] Starfleet's Prometheus-Class. Who needs drones? I am the drones Multi-Vector Assault Mode FTW --- Hey hey let's go kenka suru! Taisetsuna mono protect my balls! Boku ga warui so lets fighting! LET'S FIGHTING LOVE!!! |
 Drek Grapper Minmatar |
Posted - 2007.07.02 14:05:00 -
[516] Mmm... Tec2 Hurricane 7 Turret Slots 4 Mids (no change) 6 Lows (no change) Better resists and a bigger drone bay and increase cpu/cap for better fitting options with the 7th turret. Would be a nice ship. - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS. |
 djenghis jan Amarr Debiloff's Vanguard |
Posted - 2007.07.02 14:15:00 -
[517] derelict space craft from alien |
 Vyktor Abyss The Abyss Corporation |
Posted - 2007.07.02 14:24:00 -
[518] The Odyssey from Ulysses 31 - Ideas are my business...maybe thats why I'm always skint! Please read my ideas |
 Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun The Kano Organisation |
Posted - 2007.07.02 15:46:00 -
[519] I will take something a bit more...realistic! Wisconsin _______________________________________________ It is people like the OPer which cause MMO games to suck because they have that "the grass is greener on the other side" syndrome so developers s |
 LUH 3471 |
Posted - 2007.07.02 15:58:00 -
[520] Edited by: LUH 3471 on 02/07/2007 16:00:25 I will take something a bit more organic |
Sharupak Minmatar Knights Of the Black Sun The Kano Organisation |
Posted - 2007.07.02 16:24:00 -
[521]
Very nice, I didnt know there was a finaly to the two reality disfunctions!!!! Of to the bookstore! Very good books! _______________________________________________ It is people like the OPer which cause MMO games to suck because they have that "the grass is greener on the other side" syndrome so developers s |
 Natalia Fachiri Minmatar Huang Yinglong Namtz'aar k'in |
Posted - 2007.07.02 16:26:00 -
[522] a Plate Class GSV from Iain M. Banks' Culture novels. A ship that can create matter out of nothing (well the hyperspace grid, but we arent talking details here ^^ ), can manufacture a fleet of thousands of ships within weeks using that energy and any avaliable mass, has a AI brain smart enogh to run simulations of the whole universe, has planet destroying weaponry that is accurate to the atomic level and enogh living space that I wouldnt see the same bit of it twice in my lifetime ^^ |
 Sylek Amarr The Fated Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate |
Posted - 2007.07.02 16:42:00 -
[523] How strange, a 10-page long thread about everyone's dream ship and only one person has mentioned the Millenium Falcon? For shame. I mean, it's an YT-1300 freighter that's been pimped out so much that it has the combat capabilities of an Assault Frigate and can still carry a load of spice. Now, Star Destroyers and Cruisers are nice, but I think being in command of such a big ship would be stressful. I would rather own a freighter or maybe a frigate. Maybe a frigate that could hold one squadron of X-Wings or some such plus some decent armaments. Oh and definitely a tractor beam. <3 Star Wars tractor beams. Much better than the can-draggers in EVE. |
 Almarez Setenta Corp |
Posted - 2007.07.02 17:46:00 -
[524]
Dude but then you would come back from the edge of the universe all jacked up. Remember the visions man. I would have to say that Klingon bird of prey that could fire while cloaked and bring that into Eve. Can we say indestructible. New outpost-30 bil isk, Items to save up for cap ships-700 mil isk, Going to bed early now that you don't have to work for that and realizing how much poontang you were missing-PRICELESS |
 Sazkyen |
Posted - 2007.07.02 18:33:00 -
[525] Star Destroyer. When I first saw the small picture of the Scorpion, I thought it looked like a SD but then it turned out the perspective fooled me. |
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