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Marc Callan
NullOcular Order THORN Alliance
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Posted - 2013.02.13 10:26:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:That is the whole point. Mining barge skill is not useful and never will be useful. I don't have any of the other related mining skills trained up and would never want to as I simply wanted to use the orca. At least with capital pilots they can jump into BS's, and HAC pilots can jump into assault frigates, and that is the difference that most people on this thread seem to not understand as the excuse that it is still a useful skill is being stated when in fact mining barge V is not useful at all in the slightest.
Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?
"Not useful and never will be useful"; "not useful at all in the slightest" - those are wide-ranging blanket statements. When you've got an alt drilling pyrox to build a battleship for your main, Mining Barge V does come in handy. And for a utility alt that uses an Orca as well? For that character, the skill is useful.
And how would it be done? Who would get the skill taken away, and who would keep it? There's no way of divining the reasons why a character has a skill trained up.
Look at it this way: when the Playstation 3 came out, its price was US$599. The price came down later, but the people who bought it at $599 didn't get their money back.
Currently, Mining Barge V is the "skill price" of an Orca. The "skill price" is going down this summer. Those who paid the premium solely to fly the Orca aren't getting their money back. People who weren't ready to make the investment will wait until the skill price goes down. |

Inkarr Hashur
Sine Nobilitatis
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Posted - 2013.02.13 15:18:00 -
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Nexus Day wrote:I don't think the OP is whining about a noob piloting the same vessel he is
No, this is word for word exactly what he was whining about. Look again. |

Zhantiii Arnoux
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.14 15:20:00 -
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Its all to make it easier for the multiaccount users to create a fleet., thus more money for CCP. :) |

Kate stark
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Posted - 2013.02.14 16:16:00 -
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Zhantiii Arnoux wrote:Its all to make it easier for the multiaccount users to create a fleet., thus more money for CCP. :)
not really, you were still using the orca as a miner while training to fly an orca anyway. instead of having a **** miner you end up with a **** booster instead. it really doesn't impact on fleets that much at all. |

Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
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Posted - 2013.02.14 16:44:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.
The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.
Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.
WTF is this.. World of Warcraft? You are an idiot. Being able to sit in a ship with the skill at 1 does not make you equal to someone with that skill trained to 5. Not even close.
Being able to sit in an ORCA does not automatically grant you the ability to boost. You need many other skills for your boost to be worth anything.
Sure they can maybe use the ORCA for hauling, but what noob could afford to buy one? Sell PLEX to buy an ORCA? Sure, but when they lose it the first day, what advantage did they gain?
The skill changes are a good thing. Am am sure when the itty 5 skill changes are done the ship it self will also be changed. a noob with gal indy 1 flying an itty 5 will not be able to haul near as much as you with gal indy 5 trained. my itty 5 hauls almost 42,000m3. you will still need gal indy at 5 to haul that much after the change. If you are so butt hurt by the game being improved, then quit. |
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