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Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
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Posted - 2013.02.10 14:42:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:I don't know where in the world you are from. But here in the UK we actually do have a number of shops who will reimburse you the difference if the price drops within a month of buying. Particuarly using your example of around christmas, many shops will advertise that they will reimburse any difference if the price drops in sale. Also many shops will reimburse you the price if you find the product cheaper in a shop elsewhere within a month of purchase. This is pretty standard practice here in the UK. No we really don't. Stop making crap up to support your terrible arguement, know when you're wrong. "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2646
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Posted - 2013.02.10 14:47:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:I don't know where in the world you are from. But here in the UK we actually do have a number of shops who will reimburse you the difference if the price drops within a month of buying. Particuarly using your example of around christmas, many shops will advertise that they will reimburse any difference if the price drops in sale. Also many shops will reimburse you the price if you find the product cheaper in a shop elsewhere within a month of purchase. This is pretty standard practice here in the UK.
And those are all policies that they advertise, correct?
Name for me a Car Dealer, which I can call up, and ask if they will give me 5 grand because a Car I bought dropped in price by 5 grand after I bought it.
Name for me a company which will refund the difference in prices months or years after I bought something?
The Orca has been around since November 2008. You are asking for a refund on a 4 year old product while it is still in working order and you can still use it simply because it got cheaper. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Arduemont
Tempest Legion
1188
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Posted - 2013.02.10 14:49:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:You are asking for a refund on a 4 year old product while it is still in working order and you can still use it simply because it got cheaper.
They're also asking for a refund on something they don't even own. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2646
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Posted - 2013.02.10 14:52:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:RubyPorto wrote:You are asking for a refund on a 4 year old product while it is still in working order and you can still use it simply because it got cheaper. They're also asking for a refund on something they don't even own.
To be fair, they're also not asking to actually receive anything when they get the things they don't own refunded. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |
Arduemont
Tempest Legion
1188
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Posted - 2013.02.10 14:53:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Arduemont wrote:RubyPorto wrote:You are asking for a refund on a 4 year old product while it is still in working order and you can still use it simply because it got cheaper. They're also asking for a refund on something they don't even own. To be fair, they're also not asking to actually receive anything when they get the things they don't own refunded.
Touch+¬. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:07:00 -
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Its pretty simple. People paid CCP for game time and trained up a skill which is no longer required due to CCP making fundamental changes, and in the case of mining barges was never required by many and never will be required in the future. The issue is really that simple.
Im surprised by the amount of intellectual psuedo BS posted attacking something which should be in the majority of the player bases interest. Im sure if you asked people who actually play the game and don't come on the forums then they would welcome a mining barge SP refund. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
14
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:12:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:I don't know where in the world you are from. But here in the UK we actually do have a number of shops who will reimburse you the difference if the price drops within a month of buying. Particuarly using your example of around christmas, many shops will advertise that they will reimburse any difference if the price drops in sale. Also many shops will reimburse you the price if you find the product cheaper in a shop elsewhere within a month of purchase. This is pretty standard practice here in the UK. And those are all policies that they advertise, correct? Name for me a Car Dealer, which I can call up, and ask if they will give me 5 grand because a Car I bought dropped in price by 5 grand after I bought it. Name for me a company which will refund the difference in prices months or years after I bought something? The Orca has been around since November 2008. You are asking for a refund on a 4 year old product while it is still in working order and you can still use it simply because it got cheaper.
This entire argument is ridiculous to be honest. Comparing products which you buy to training up skills in a game is only vaguely related. Despite that fact many shops will offer this kind of service. To name one shop, John Lewis in the UK will do this without advertising the fact, and I have done that myself before. They are also a highly successful UK chain well known for good customer service. The previous poster from the UK probably shops at poundland and so has come to expect poor service as standard. Also I am not a pub lord and have never owned a pub. . . . . lol |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
15
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:27:00 -
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itty V in 33 minutes is ridiculous period. |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1052
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:30:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again. You really should just quit EVE. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
15
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:37:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again. You really should just quit EVE.
If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence. |
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baltec1
Bat Country
5114
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:45:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:itty V in 33 minutes is ridiculous period.
Only in its current form. Industrials have yet to be teircided. |
Kate stark
46
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:48:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:As for your concern about the Itty V
i'm not concerned, i have all racial industrials at I or greater, i also have the ability to fly a freighter and an orca, on multiple accounts...
honestly, i have more concern for the basic human rights of billionaires than i do for this change. |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
15
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Posted - 2013.02.10 16:52:00 -
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seriously saying people who complain about eve should quit has probably been used like a billion times and is a superficial scapegoat argument with no input what soever... u cant get any lamer than tell people to quit eve. |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1052
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:01:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again. You really should just quit EVE. If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence. So you're not going to stop buying a product from a company you're not satisfied with? Who's the sucker now? If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
17
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:07:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again. You really should just quit EVE. If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence. So you're not going to stop buying a product from a company you're not satisfied with? Who's the sucker now?
eve isnt just some product dude it carrys a lot of time invested and is one of the only sincere mmos out there with a mature theme.
he probably really likes eve and would rather support it to become the best it can be without just turning his back on it. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:11:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again. You really should just quit EVE. If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence. So you're not going to stop buying a product from a company you're not satisfied with? Who's the sucker now?
Hahah. Why would I stop playing eve due to a minor issue such as this? If that is your only solution then I expect your the type who doesn't achieve much with your life. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
16
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:13:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:but then you'd probably never go back to that dealer again. You really should just quit EVE. If you ever come to the UK please tell me your name so I can add it to my list of suckers who are happy to be be ripped for every last penny and will then come on the internet singing the praises of my benevolence. So you're not going to stop buying a product from a company you're not satisfied with? Who's the sucker now? eve isnt just some product dude it carrys a lot of time invested and is one of the only sincere mmos out there with a mature theme. he probably really likes eve and would rather support it to become the best it can be without just turning his back on it.
Yes exactly. Just because of this issue it doesn't mean I don't like eve and would turn my back on it. I would just be happy if CCP refunded the mining barge skill and my opinion of them would be even higher than it is now, but it wouldn't effect all the other good things about this game if they decided not to.
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Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1052
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:13:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:he probably really likes eve and would rather support it to become the best it can be without just turning his back on it. But apparently the fact that they're not going to reimburse a skill that is still useful is terrible customer service, and that is a cited reason to not continue buying a product. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:20:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:he probably really likes eve and would rather support it to become the best it can be without just turning his back on it. But apparently the fact that they're not going to reimburse a skill that is still useful is terrible customer service, and that is a cited reason to not continue buying a product.
That is the whole point. Mining barge skill is not useful and never will be useful. I don't have any of the other related mining skills trained up and would never want to as I simply wanted to use the orca. At least with capital pilots they can jump into BS's, and HAC pilots can jump into assault frigates, and that is the difference that most people on this thread seem to not understand as the excuse that it is still a useful skill is being stated when in fact mining barge V is not useful at all in the slightest.
Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game? |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1052
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:26:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:That is the whole point. Mining barge skill is not useful and never will be useful. I don't have any of the other related mining skills trained up and would never want to as I simply wanted to use the orca. At least with capital pilots they can jump into BS's, and HAC pilots can jump into assault frigates, and that is the difference that most people on this thread seem to not understand as the excuse that it is still a useful skill is being stated when in fact mining barge V is not useful at all in the slightest. But it is useful, you can fly mining barges at the highest level if you want to. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |
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SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
17
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:28:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?
i think hes using the situation to display to himself that people( producers) need people like him, its probably something that makes him feel better about himself.
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Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:29:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:That is the whole point. Mining barge skill is not useful and never will be useful. I don't have any of the other related mining skills trained up and would never want to as I simply wanted to use the orca. At least with capital pilots they can jump into BS's, and HAC pilots can jump into assault frigates, and that is the difference that most people on this thread seem to not understand as the excuse that it is still a useful skill is being stated when in fact mining barge V is not useful at all in the slightest. But it is useful, you can fly mining barges at the highest level if you want to.
Hehehe. Yeh thats what I always wanted to do. Why didn't I think of that before. hehe |
Rebecha Pucontis
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2013.02.10 17:31:00 -
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SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?
i think hes using the situation to display to himself that people( producers) need people like him, its probably something that makes him feel better about himself.
Hehe. Yes, sucking up to CCP. It seems a lot on these forums will defend CCP tooth and nail and tell anyone who makes even a minor complaint to quit. |
SoOza N'GasZ
Geese Jugglers
17
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Posted - 2013.02.10 18:05:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?
i think hes using the situation to display to himself that people( producers) need people like him, its probably something that makes him feel better about himself. Hehe. Yes, sucking up to CCP. It seems a lot on these forums will defend CCP tooth and nail and tell anyone who makes even a minor complaint to quit.
its bullying... the arguments are very biased and often dont even considere the original text... tl;dr <<< bs |
Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
386
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Posted - 2013.02.10 19:27:00 -
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I'd like to see that noob try to move that 29k m3 of _______ in that Itty5 that he has skiled to 1. "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Kate stark
46
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Posted - 2013.02.10 19:40:00 -
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Mortimer Civeri wrote:I'd like to see that noob try to move that 29k m3 of _______ in that Itty5 that he has skiled to 1.
easily. |
Varesk
Origin. Black Legion.
294
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Posted - 2013.02.10 19:48:00 -
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RubyPorto wrote:Atomic Virulent wrote:Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back? And what can he do with that Orca? Can't boost. Can't mine. Can haul, but not that well.
Role Bonus: 250% bonus to tractor beam range 100% bonus to tractor beam velocity 500% bonus to survey scanner range 99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modules Can use 3 warfare link modules simultaneously.
Industrial Command Ship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to cargo capacity per level 3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman links per level
bolded the important parts for you.
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Mortimer Civeri
Aliastra Gallente Federation
386
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Posted - 2013.02.10 19:48:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Mortimer Civeri wrote:I'd like to see that noob try to move that 29k m3 of _______ in that Itty5 that he has skiled to 1. easily. Show your math, to say that.
EDIT: no rigs and only T1 expanders
EDIT2: and show with T1 rigs and T1 expanders "I don't know which is worse, ...that everyone has his price, or that the price is always so low." Calvin
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Arduemont
Tempest Legion
1189
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Posted - 2013.02.10 20:12:00 -
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Rebecha Pucontis wrote:SoOza N'GasZ wrote:Rebecha Pucontis wrote:
Also just because I feel CCP dropped the ball on this issue that doesn't mean they offer terrible customer service. Come on, just one minor mistake and you expect everyone to quit the game?
i think hes using the situation to display to himself that people( producers) need people like him, its probably something that makes him feel better about himself. Hehe. Yes, sucking up to CCP. It seems a lot on these forums will defend CCP tooth and nail and tell anyone who makes even a minor complaint to quit.
We're not defending CCP because we're groupies, we're just tearing apart your ridiculous argument because it's crap and I can't stand to let people who are logic challenged run riot on the forum saying whatever they like.
If you get some kind of reimbursement for your Mining Barge skill then everyone will want reimbursements for the hundreds of skills people will no longer need to fly various different ships, and CCP don't have the time or resources to do that. And frankly, if they did, I would be pissed at them for not spending the money on developers to make eve better, rather than spending it on GMs who will have **** all to do after the event.
Seriously, grow some brain cells and stop thinking the world revolves around you, because it doesn't. And I don't want to hear more of this "the customers always right crap" from you, because you are a minority and most people just don't care. "In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
NEONOVUS
Saablast Followers
324
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Posted - 2013.02.10 20:23:00 -
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Varesk wrote:RubyPorto wrote:Atomic Virulent wrote:Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back? And what can he do with that Orca? Can't boost. Can't mine. Can haul, but not that well. Role Bonus: 250% bonus to tractor beam range 100% bonus to tractor beam velocity 500% bonus to survey scanner range 99% reduction in CPU need for Warfare Link modulesCan use 3 warfare link modules simultaneously. Industrial Command Ship Skill Bonus: 5% bonus to cargo capacity per level 3% bonus to effectiveness of mining foreman links per levelbolded the important parts for you. I look forward to using an orca for my leet pvp on the Jita undock. |
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