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Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
107
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Posted - 2013.02.08 05:33:00 -
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In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.
The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.
Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.
WTF is this.. World of Warcraft? |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
978
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Posted - 2013.02.08 05:36:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious. The fact that you're crying about this is hilarious because those skills aren't trainable on a trial account. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |

Atomic Virulent
Dark Matter Industrial
107
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Posted - 2013.02.08 05:39:00 -
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Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back? |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
978
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Posted - 2013.02.08 05:43:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back? Oh holy **** a n00b with **** fitting skills and no real idea how to play the game might get into an Orca in less time than it took me! If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |

BadAssMcKill
Ghost Headquarters The Ghost Army
99
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Posted - 2013.02.08 05:43:00 -
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vov I trained my Orca alt, I don't mind the decrease in time for others to train it
However I think its silly the Ittty V is so quick to train for now, not cause of others who have trained for it but rather because it pretty much obsoletes most every other T1 industrial Starships were meant to fly~ |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
978
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Posted - 2013.02.08 05:46:00 -
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BadAssMcKill wrote:However I think its silly the Ittty V is so quick to train for now, not cause of others who have trained for it but rather because it pretty much obsoletes most every other T1 industrial It'll get a rebalance, so nothing to worry about. If you're not already part of a bloc, this is the best guy for CSM8. |

BadAssMcKill
Ghost Headquarters The Ghost Army
99
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Posted - 2013.02.08 05:49:00 -
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Karl Hobb wrote:BadAssMcKill wrote:However I think its silly the Ittty V is so quick to train for now, not cause of others who have trained for it but rather because it pretty much obsoletes most every other T1 industrial It'll get a rebalance, so nothing to worry about.
Oh yeah I'm sure it will eventually but for the time being it creates a bit of an imbalance Starships were meant to fly~ |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6612
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Posted - 2013.02.08 05:50:00 -
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Believe it or not, ships tend to have hull bonuses for the skills! This means that while you can fly an Iteron V with Gallente Industrial I, you'll still want to train that skill up to get more cargo space (and speed, hurrr) out of it.
What's the problem? ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Spurty
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
794
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Posted - 2013.02.08 05:58:00 -
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This is unacceptable!
Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
--- GÇ£If you think this Universe is bad, you should see some of the others.GÇ¥ GÇò Philip K. **** |

ChaseX
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:01:00 -
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Andski wrote:Believe it or not, ships tend to have hull bonuses for the skills! This means that while you can fly an Iteron V with Gallente Industrial I, you'll still want to train that skill up to get more cargo space (and speed, hurrr) out of it.
What's the problem?
Problem is: "I don't want other people to have stuff I have because I am such a special snowflakes"  |

RubyPorto
Sniggwaffe YOUR VOTES DON'T COUNT
2594
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:10:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:Ok. some punk who pays his first $19.99. $20 for an Orca.. Who wouldn't have paid 10 times that to get the skill time back?
And what can he do with that Orca?
Can't boost. Can't mine. Can haul, but not that well. This is EVE - Everybody Versus Everybody.
"the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP)." -CCP Solomon |

Washichu May
Psilocybin Research
17
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:21:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.
The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.
Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.
WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?
Get over yourself. Back in 2003 people mined in imicus for a week to buy a thorax.
If you want to be a cockblocker for new people, maybe you should be pushed back into that paradigm and make ISK old-school way. |

Asuka Solo
Stark Fujikawa Stark Enterprises
2273
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:26:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.
The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.
Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.
WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?
I would love for you to show me where a trial account can train Industrial Command Ships.
Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk! |

Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
317
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:34:00 -
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BadAssMcKill wrote:Karl Hobb wrote:BadAssMcKill wrote:However I think its silly the Ittty V is so quick to train for now, not cause of others who have trained for it but rather because it pretty much obsoletes most every other T1 industrial It'll get a rebalance, so nothing to worry about. Oh yeah I'm sure it will eventually but for the time being it creates a bit of an imbalance
Actually not, as these changes will hit TQ during summer, hopefully at the same time of the industrials rebalance. G££ <= Me |

Galenwade
Red Federation
167
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:45:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.
The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.
Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.
WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?
First world problems ? |

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
1941
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Posted - 2013.02.08 06:54:00 -
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Spurty wrote: This is unacceptable!
Inigo Montoya: You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
You owe me a monitor. Mine has coffee shorting it out atm. Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |

Grimpak
Midnight Elites Echelon Rising
728
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:05:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.
The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.
Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.
WTF is this.. World of Warcraft? OHNOES IT TAKES HALF HOUR TO TRAIN FOR A ITTY 5 NAO!
pfft. back in my day it took nearly a month to get enough isk to get into a battleship, now you get the isk faster than you can skill up to BS 1. you see me complaining about this? goddamn greenhorn... [img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]
[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right |

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1564
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:31:00 -
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Requiring players to train a hulltype skill to V to fly the T1 version of the hull is beyond stupid.
This was an obvious consequence of removing tiers, deal with it. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |

Tubrug1
The League of Gentlemenly Gentlemen
89
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:32:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:
WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?
You can train skills in WoW? In need of another generic blog to follow? Try this one www.tubrug1.blogspot.com |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
785
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Posted - 2013.02.08 07:59:00 -
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reckon the new itty v's going to move like a cow
and a dead cow at that
e: although you do wonder how you can make five different industrials perform five different roles. going from 'light with smallish cargo space' to 'slow with tons of cargo' over five ships will mean only two are used - the smallest and the biggest. there'll be a 'tanky' one, no doubt about that, but that leaves two more ships to find roles for? |

Cannibal Kane
The African Terrorist
1388
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Posted - 2013.02.08 08:03:00 -
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I think people are missing the positives...
10 day old char flying around in an Orca during a war. Yes you get old players doing that to but now there will be a lot more. "I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. -áHe flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. -áHis hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. -áIt was truly majestic. -áAnd while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off.-áBecause I am like that." --áNEONOVUS |

Generals4
Liandri Covenant
1714
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Posted - 2013.02.08 08:09:00 -
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Where can i find this glorious information which has caused such tears? -Death is nothing, but to live defeated and inglorious is to die daily. |

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility Casoff
785
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Posted - 2013.02.08 08:23:00 -
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Generals4 wrote:Where can i find this glorious information which has caused such tears? http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=74234
Quote: Industrials
All ship skill requirements reduced from 1-5 to 1. We want to overhaul Industrials roles as part of the Tiericide initiative and this is the first step in that direction. Watch out for more details when they are ready for player feedback. Racial Frigate skill requirement removed from the Industrial skill
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2266
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Posted - 2013.02.08 08:32:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:In the upcoming expansion, there are some serious issues that can only be reconciled with free skillpoints or PLEX.
The 2 big ones.. Iteron V is/was 24d to skill for. It will be reduced to 33 minutes.. MINUTES! That's brand new noob, to ITTY V in THIRTY THREE MINUTES! This has the value of nearly an entire month of game time.
Second, the Orca is going from 40+d down to 17 days. This is unacceptable. The thought that some troll can spend his 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling is just atrocious.
WTF is this.. World of Warcraft?
Apparently I no longer need to play at all, because CCP harvests tears for me. I'll probably-ábe banned for this |

Acac Sunflyier
Burning Star L.L.C.
517
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Posted - 2013.02.08 08:43:00 -
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Do you think they'll take the 1-4s out of the game? There just isn't anything intresting on the front page of the GD anymore. Yawn! |

Frank Millar
107
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:15:00 -
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Acac Sunflyier wrote:Do you think they'll take the 1-4s out of the game? I read somewhere (can't remember where) the Itty 2 and 4 would be taken out, and the other 3 "rebalanced"
Or something. Maybe.
@ OP: you're being hysterical. Stahp. |

Silk daShocka
Greasy Hair Club
306
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:23:00 -
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I haven't flown the iteron V since I was a newb, so I don't see the big deal. |

Sebroth
Svea Rike Fidelas Constans
5
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:30:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:... 14-day trial and be up to par with seasoned vets who spent over a month skilling ...
you are no seasoned vet if you still belive sp>experience
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Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
291
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:31:00 -
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Benny Ohu wrote:e: although you do wonder how you can make five different industrials perform five different roles. going from 'light with smallish cargo space' to 'slow with tons of cargo' over five ships will mean only two are used - the smallest and the biggest. there'll be a 'tanky' one, no doubt about that, but that leaves two more ships to find roles for? I guess the bigger question is, since one race has 5, and others 2 industrials;
Is CCP going to give all races 5 industrials and try to build roles for all of them, or are we going to see the removal of ships for the first time in EVE?
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March rabbit
player corp n1
521
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Posted - 2013.02.08 09:35:00 -
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Atomic Virulent wrote:WTF is this.. World of Warcraft? this is result of "think about new player! he will never be able to catch up!"
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