Is the textual diarrhea known as "Tiericide"


Ship choice used to matter. Flying something like a Merlin or a Tristan or a Vexor took skill. Only people who knew what they were doing could do it properly in the face of the FotM. Now, all that ship variety we used to have has been reduced to a bunch of different reskins of the exact same ship - just orbit and hit F1. Literally the only "Choice" left is whether we want to hear lasers or projectile sounds.


Now, with Retribution 1.1, CCP nerfed some of the last two effective small gang PVP platforms left in the game: the Drake and the Hurricane. These ships had the right combination of tank and damage that a good pilot could pick off stragglers from a blob. The Cane's loss of a utility high means that it's now incapable of dealing with fast tackle, and the drake flies like a brick now.

And finally, as if the prior changes weren't enough, CCP is planning on nerfing offgrid links. Good luck trying to outmaneuver a blob now.



First off, Tiericide needs to be scaled back. Way back. Make ships interesting and unique again. Instead of making the Maller just a slower Omen, why not just boost its base armor HP to help it be better at the role it was supposed to fill?

Instead of nerfing the Drake and the Cane, bring up other battlecruisers to their level. Give the Harby a major agility buff and maybe we'll see more than two options for small gangs.

Lastly, instead of gutting boosts and making them pointless, give them some sig bloom so they can be scanned down.


Stop listening to your Goon overlords, CCP. Listen to your core small gang PVPers.

As a drone user I got to listen to months of "HTFU" and "fly a Drake or Hurricane, noob" after we all got put out to pasture by the last patch.

Who's laughing now?

I'm going to go out on a limb here and agree with OP. It is absolutely unreasonable for the Drake to be nerfed multiple times. What do CCP think it is, a ****** titan?!

The Drake used to be the perfect balance for small gang PvP and now it is unusable. Couple that with the Tengu being kicked into obsolesence , and the Hurricane becoming a pile of you-know-what, I don't know how solo and small gang PvP will survive.

CCP needs to wake up. Don't nerf things that work well just becuase everything else sucks. Buff the things that suck! For example, like happened to frigates.

As a drone user I got to listen to months of "HTFU" and "fly a Drake or Hurricane, noob" after we all got put out to pasture by the last patch.

Who's laughing now?

Why were the Drake, Tengu, and Hurricane the only small gang PvP ships?

BAZINGA. Trick question. Got you. They aren't the only small gang ships. Plenty of people run small gangs with other ships in their fleets as well.

I think part of the purpose behind balancing them is to remove the stigma that certain ships are the only ones to use for small gang/large gang/random gang warfare and to allow for a greater spread. I may not fly a hurricane since retribution (buffer armor canes are crap/less cool now) but I still fly ships. Adapt or give me your stuff?

Posting in a stealth "I can't get easy kills anymore" thread.

What are you going to small gang roam in? Feroxes? Please.

Don't make me go into the pile of garbage that passes for "working ships" these days. It's all "approach, push F1" or "orbit, push F1". Carebears might whine about PvE getting to be "more like" PvP, but it's really PvP that is turning into PvE. If you like these changes, you probably should just go run some level 4's. You'll find that fun.

It's all "approach, push F1" or "orbit, push F1".

It isn't very stealthy for a stealth thread

I like what they've done so far, the drake and hurricane were good... A little too good. They stated in the dev blog that they couldn't bring all BCs to the level of the drake and hurricane, because that would make the cruisers they just finished balancing pointless again.

They needed to bring them down a little bit, and I'm personally glad they brought the other ones up.

When was the last time you saw a prophecy in game? And the myrmidon can now field 5 heavy / sentry drones, so its actually better than a vexor.

Tiericide is good for EVE, it brings more viable ships to the table, and from what I've seen opens up for a variety of fittings, and not the same old setups we've had for 3-4 years now.

I like what they've done so far, the drake and hurricane were good... A little too good. They stated in the dev blog that they couldn't bring all BCs to the level of the drake and hurricane, because that would make the cruisers they just finished balancing pointless again.

They needed to bring them down a little bit, and I'm personally glad they brought the other ones up.

When was the last time you saw a prophecy in game? And the myrmidon can now field 5 heavy / sentry drones, so its actually better than a vexor.

Tiericide is good for EVE, it brings more viable ships to the table, and from what I've seen opens up for a variety of fittings, and not the same old setups we've had for 3-4 years now.