"Boo Hoo! I now have to think about how these other viable PvP ships might be fit, instead of the four or five cookie cutter fits that were viable for PvP before."

Please do this the next time you see me, it makes my life so much easyer when ships fly directly at my large blasters.

Okay so if everything is so good, tell me: how would you handle a blob if you're solo or in a small gang (5-10 people or less). Oh and don't say "bring links" because CCP are about to nerf those too as part of their crusade to buff the goon blob.

Most people don't seem to realize that manually flying in a spiral to close in on an enemy will bring you much better chances of success han using the keep at range and orbit buttons. ;)

Eh, unless everybody is shooting missiles at you.

Okay so if everything is so good, tell me: how would you handle a blob if you're solo or in a small gang (5-10 people or less). Oh and don't say "bring links" because CCP are about to nerf those too as part of their crusade to buff the goon blob.

Tiericide made the Caracal a beastly killing machine, buffed the thorax, made the stabber better, and made some pretty freaking badass support cruisers
Tiericide Improved the drake's dps, improved the harbinger's dps, took the hurricane down a slight notch to not be the king of small gang pvp go-to ship, and improved the myrmidon's practical dps

why do you believe you should be able to fight a blob solo?

Because skill should mean more than numbers.

:David Attenborough:

And here, we see the FOTM kiddie in its natural habitat, the forums. This one has just lost his ability to hunt with impunity, never needing to rely on his wit nor his skill. Having grown soft when he could hunt with ease, he has realized that he may struggle to hunt, now that he is on a level playing field with the rest of the jungle. His response, as you can see, is to pull out his hair and gnash at the shadows, occasionally screaming gibberish. He may not survive the winter.

Listen to your core small gang PVPers.

Did all the real PvPers leave when I wasn't looking, just to be replaced by blobbing braindead goons?

Calling me a Goon is probably an insult to the goons.

I'm sorry that your orca swapping was nerfed and that you're apparently getting taken to the ownzone by 2 month old players in T1 cruisers, but the blame does not lie with whatever external entity you attribute your own failures to.

You know how I'd approach bringing up the topic of overbuffed T1 logistics for discussion? It doesn't involve ranting and accusing CCP of working for Goonswarm. Unless you honestly believe that we've ever had problems fielding dozens of T2 logis in our fleets (hint: we don't) or reimbursing them (hint: we most definitely don't)

Okay so if everything is so good, tell me: how would you handle a blob if you're solo or in a small gang (5-10 people or less). Oh and don't say "bring links" because CCP are about to nerf those too as part of their crusade to buff the goon blob.

Ugh don't even remind me of the plague of T1 logistics everywhere. Their affordability and easy availability has made them the new "win button" for PvP. They can be fit up for higher sensor strength and almost the same reps as their T2 counterparts, but can appear in ridiculous numbers.

It used to be that a small gang of smart (read: actually skilled) pilots could maneuver around a larger gang, pick off stragglers, etc. To counter this, gangs could go the extra mile and effort (plus risk) of bringing in ewar or logi support -- especially the latter. Now, with the ubiquity of both of these in large numbers of T1 ships, what can the small gang do? Bring their own logi? Their own ewar? More numbers? ... OH WAIT, THAT'S RIGHT! The only counter to a blob is a bigger blob! No skill involved.

lol. ccp buffed scrub ships like t1 firgates and cruisers cause blobbers are afraid to fly something that costs more than a few million iskies. why would you even fly a bc or hac now that cruisers are just as good and cost halve or tenth as much. meanwhile, their going to nerf real pvp ships like t3s because scrubs dont have the balls to field something worth that much so they whine intil ccp does something about it.

o7m8s enjoy ur carebear pvp.

Ed: Also, Petrus... this thread is most unlike you guys. Seriously, it's just ******* stupid.

Ugh don't even remind me of the plague of T1 logistics everywhere. Their affordability and easy availability has made them the new "win button" for PvP. They can be fit up for higher sensor strength and almost the same reps as their T2 counterparts, but can appear in ridiculous numbers.

It used to be that a small gang of smart (read: actually skilled) pilots could maneuver around a larger gang, pick off stragglers, etc. To counter this, gangs could go the extra mile and effort (plus risk) of bringing in ewar or logi support -- especially the latter. Now, with the ubiquity of both of these in large numbers of T1 ships, what can the small gang do? Bring their own logi? Their own ewar? More numbers? ... OH WAIT, THAT'S RIGHT! The only counter to a blob is a bigger blob! No skill involved.



I have no idea where you're pulling this false crap out of.

I can't believe you guys. Did all the real PvPers leave when I wasn't looking, just to be replaced by blobbing braindead goons?

I should just unsub, this game is starting to not be worth it anymore. I'm not paying to be part of a super carebear noob haven of people who like to pretend they "PvP".

Ship choice used to matter. Flying something like a Merlin or a Tristan or a Vexor took skill. Only people who knew what they were doing could do it properly in the face of the FotM.

Sigh... I guess you simply never noticed how much I loved flying my Drake. Those days are gone, now, of course.