Yup yup yup, Corp-hopping is a lame joke of a mechanic and just another inch of ground claimed by the carebear creep.

It is pointless.

If they are sitting docked at a station while waiting for roles to drop or for some other cool-down makes no difference to the outcome when they could get out instantly. It only turns into a "kick in the back on their way out" and this is not necessary.

Somehow the obduracy displayed here by some when they insist on their little war reminds me of this and it might it be a good idea to give you a pop-up note saying "No, you cannot do this."

Because this maks them safe and sound to continue on about their merry way.

James 315 does it all the time, just so you know.

Do you know what non-consensual pvp means?, it's kind of one of the core elements of eve. I guess you are one of players who need special treatment because eve is to hard, so please don't talk about being taken serious.

Thinks the point of wardecs are for mining or indy or noob corps - check

Whines when said corp uses game mechanics to get out of a wardec they don't want to be in - check

Even calls it an exploit and wants game changed so corps that don't want to be at war get "trapped" for at least a week. - check

I find it so funny that people are a. proud of their "wardecs" and b. surprised when their foe doesn't want to fight, and cry about it all day long on the forums. As someone smarter than me said, go ahead and wardec the best hisec merc alliance. I guarantee you they won't try and get out of it. But then again, that won't give you the easymode free kills you're looking for. Then it would you docking up and dissolving your corp instantly. Cry. Moar.

If they are indeed botters, petition them, wardeccing them does nothing to help your cause.

Even if we just go with a grace period of 24 hours - you claim that is "no different" from them being able to instantly drop corp? How on earth do you think that? It means they've got to sit docked for a full day - no missioning, mining, whatever. There's an actual downside, albeit a fairly brief, trivial one. But there is at least one, rather than none.

Being able to instantly drop corp at no cost what so ever is stupid. This isn't me acting entitled, it's simply the truth.

look I'm still here.

Not for long, I would imagine.

Pfff I'm not advocating botting, I'm just stating facts.

CCP and facts and figures don't go well with each other tis true.

Check his corp history. James 315 opens and closes his little corp with every war-dec it seems. It is quite amusing to see one of his followers being against it. I actually think James 315 is right in doing it, because he is not the one who ganks miners. He only developed the idea of it. It is others who do the ganking.

[quote=William Cane]found some botsquote]

Report them, have fun seeing the bot accounts getting permabanned. Take all the rocks for Yourself. Profit.

100% SAFE instantly by quiting to an NPC corp

I've given up on the "report bot" tool. It simply does not work.

Even then, there is NO reward when you turn in hundreds of them b/c CCP can't figure out how they are operating...yet in a couple hours i can find dozens. So i kinda stopped caring, b/c if CCP won't give me any compensation for doing their job better, then i will no longer do their job, and just wait for opportunities to gank the insanely faction fitted bot ships.

Thats my two cents.

Back On Topic.

I hate the fact that they are 100% SAFE instantly by quiting to an NPC corp, then remaking their exact same corp as soon as the last of their characters is out of corp and it is 'closed'

simply not true, you can still shoot them. there's NOTHING stopping you shooting them, not a single thing.

You are then misled in your beliefs when you think you need to punish others for not fighting you, but rather do you need to get away from it and to find a target who wants to fight and who you can fight. The sooner you learn who you can and cannot fight the better for you and all of us.

it doesn't stop EVERYBODY.

so. they aren't 100% safe, is what you're saying.

Frankly there's no reason to punish the aggressor for people not fighting them either... not that you agree since apparently you think something like the stock/commodities market is the same thing, but whatever.

No, not only do I disagree, but I will not ever agree to a logic where an aggressor considers himself punished for an instant win, but chooses to think it is a punishment. It is outright stupid.

A good fix might make it so every time you wardec a indy corp you also wardec the top merc corp

Technically the defender is the one the won as they did more ISK damage and lost nothing beyond what it cost to make a new corp. So its more an instant loss.

No. You are in high-sec and have to pay CONCORD to look away. This is your very own bill you need to pay if you want to fight wars in high-sec. You can always move out into low- and null-sec, but high-sec is high-sec and there is a good reason for it.

It's not losing anything when you do that I have an issue with.

And nothing you said was an argument against my previous statement.

I cannot help you when you are too blind to see the obvious. High-sec is the high security space where players get protection. This includes protection from players with your mindset.