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Kane Alvo
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis Dragonaors
51
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:53:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
Jita (a single system) has 300 slots.
Sobaseki (one jump away) has 250 slots.
Nonni (another five jumps) has 750 slots.
Lonetrek as a whole has 12,600 slots.
Tribute as whole has 497 regular production slots.
Please, tell me more about how difficult it is for you to earn ISK in GSF.
Caldari Militia -áGÿ£G£¬GÿP |
Vince Snetterton
258
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:53:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote:baltec1 wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:baltec1 wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:
There is so much irony and hypocrisy its stunning.
Im not sure some of you realize how foolish you look.
Go on. We are all still waiting for you to produce the "easy" to gather data that supports your statements. I mean, unless all you're here to do is troll then and shed your delicious tears all over the forums. Jita (a single system) has 300 slots. Sobaseki (one jump away) has 250 slots. Nonni (another five jumps) has 750 slots. Lonetrek as a whole has 12,600 slots. Tribute as whole has 497 regular production slots. What can be done in null sec that cant be done in high sec?
Don't respond to him.
It is pointless, and will only end up getting the thread locked. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13114
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:56:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:Malcanis wrote:Some of the information is available, eg: station slots available.
Perhaps someone could compile that? I would happily pay a billion ISK for a spreadsheet showing manufacturing and reseach slots available in each system. Station slots, yeah, that can be ground out, though I doubt anyone would do it for a billion ISK, when CCP could craft a SQL request and give an answer in by end of day. So can we, in much less time than thatGǪ it's not like it's hard.
Anyway, here you go. Cough up the dough! 
Fun facts: there are three stations in the game that have the wrong services for where and what they are. One is N-FKXV V-12 - Jovian Directorate Academy, which has highsec manufacturing slots in spite of being in null (but then, it's a dev station so it makes sense). The two others are Kor-Azor Prime V-1 - Ishukone Corporation Factory and Kinakka III - Lai Dai Corporation Factory, which have non-station-based invention in spite of being stations.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1274
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:57:00 -
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The posturing and strutting that ultimately turns up in conversations about highsec and nullsec is always such a laugh.
I've lived almost everywhere except WH space in the years I have played Eve. Most of my time was spent in null. Highsec Sov, then NPC, and then highsec and then Sov, and then NPC, and then lowsec and then highsec.... Everyone likes to the "teh l33t pVp" occurs in their space and that they're the real bad ass and everyone else needs to HTFU. Well, let me tell you a secret. This argument isn't about you. It's about what's good for the game. There are elite PvPers everywhere, not just in null. Frankly most of them are in lowsec and NPC null as far as I am concerned. Two areas of space that no one talks about in these ridiculous discussions.
Highsec and Sov incomes are fine as they are. The problems occur in the game mechanics of both. No nerffing is required of either, just some mechanic tweaking to both.
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
875
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:57:00 -
[35] - Quote
Vince Snetterton wrote:Don't respond to him.
It is pointless, and will only end up getting the thread locked.
which one are you talking to |
Arduemont
Rotten Legion Ops
1274
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Posted - 2013.03.07 15:59:00 -
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Lol Malc, put your money where your mouth is. = P
"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." |
Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
46
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:01:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:baltec1 wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:
We are all still waiting for you to produce the "easy" to gather data that supports your statements. I mean, unless all you're here to do is troll then and shed your delicious tears all over the forums.
Jita (a single system) has 300 slots. Sobaseki (one jump away) has 250 slots. Nonni (another five jumps) has 750 slots. Lonetrek as a whole has 12,600 slots. Tribute as whole has 497 regular production slots. Don't respond to him. It is pointless, and will only end up getting the thread locked.
Asked for hard data, got hard data that didn't support your agenda, throws tandrum. Oh, I am shocked.
baltec1 wrote:
Not even WI. are that bad at posting.
Hey, I resemble that remark! |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4165
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:09:00 -
[38] - Quote
Kane Alvo wrote:baltec1 wrote:
Jita (a single system) has 300 slots.
Sobaseki (one jump away) has 250 slots.
Nonni (another five jumps) has 750 slots.
Lonetrek as a whole has 12,600 slots.
Tribute as whole has 497 regular production slots.
Please, tell me more about how difficult it is for you to earn ISK in GSF.
Please, tell me more about how that has ANYTHING to do with what he said.
I'm waiting.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13114
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:11:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Lol Malc, put your money where your mouth is. = P
More fun facts:
-+ Out of 1,212 highsec systems, 650 (54%) offer some form of NPC S&I service:
-á-á-á-á-á2,890 copy slots or 2.4 per system.
-á-á-á-á-á5,780 each of ME, PE, and invention slots or 4.8 per system.
-á-á-á-á-á68,050 production slots or 56.1 per system.
-+ Out of 695 lowsec systems, 306 (44%) offer some form of NPC S&I service:
-á-á-á-á-á1,479 copy slots or 2.1 per system
-á-á-á-á-á2,909 each of ME, PE, and invention slots or 4.2 per system (49 have gone missing somewhereGǪ)
-á-á-á-á-á28,741 production slots or 41.4 per system
-+ Out of 6,022 nullsec systems, 186 offer some form of NPC S&I service:
-á-á-á-á-á1,140 copy slots or 0.19 per system
-á-á-á-á-á2,280 each of ME, PE, and invention slots or 0.38 per system.
-á-á-á-á-á13,550 production slots or 2.3 per system.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Vince Snetterton
259
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:16:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Arduemont wrote:Lol Malc, put your money where your mouth is. = P More fun facts: -+ Out of 1,212 highsec systems, 650 (54%) offer some form of NPC S&I service: -á-á-á-á-á2,890 copy slots or 2.4 per system. -á-á-á-á-á5,780 each of ME, PE, and invention slots or 4.8 per system. -á-á-á-á-á68,050 production slots or 56.1 per system. -+ Out of 695 lowsec systems, 306 (44%) offer some form of NPC S&I service: -á-á-á-á-á1,479 copy slots or 2.1 per system -á-á-á-á-á2,909 each of ME, PE, and invention slots or 4.2 per system (49 have gone missing somewhereGǪ) -á-á-á-á-á28,741 production slots or 41.4 per system -+ Out of 6,022 nullsec systems, 186 offer some form of NPC S&I service: -á-á-á-á-á1,140 copy slots or 0.19 per system -á-á-á-á-á2,280 each of ME, PE, and invention slots or 0.38 per system. -á-á-á-á-á13,550 production slots or 2.3 per system. GǪnote that the nullsec figures include a number of systems, stations and services that can't be reached or used by players.
Wait, are you saying that there are 1212 high sec systems, 695 low sec systems, and 6022 null and wh systems? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13115
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:17:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:Wait, are you saying that there are 1212 high sec systems, 695 low sec systems, and 6022 null and wh systems? No, the database is.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Vince Snetterton
259
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:18:00 -
[42] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:Wait, are you saying that there are 1212 high sec systems, 695 low sec systems, and 6022 null and wh systems? No, the database is.
How are you pulling out that data? |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13115
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:21:00 -
[43] - Quote
Vince Snetterton wrote:Tippia wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:Wait, are you saying that there are 1212 high sec systems, 695 low sec systems, and 6022 null and wh systems? No, the database is. How are you pulling out that data?
MySQL + the retribution data dump.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
Kane Alvo
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis Dragonaors
52
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:33:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I'm waiting.
Number of f#cks given: 0.
Caldari Militia -áGÿ£G£¬GÿP |
stoicfaux
2511
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:33:00 -
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Vince Snetterton wrote:
It would also severely reduce the workload of the ISD and they would not have umpteen threads starting up every day about this the economic class warfare.
Those threads would be replaced with 90% of posters misunderstanding economics and statistics and the remaining 10% trying to correct the 90%.
Quote:So I ask again, why can't you release this data?
It would be interesting to see the data, but what data would need to be mined in order to decide how rich or poor high, low and high sec are? Isk? Income from ratting? Value of ship losses? Where ships are manufactured and where they explode? Value of manufactured goods? # of freighter trips made from high-sec to low-sec? Minerals consumed in null/low/high? How much mineral compression goes on? Populations in general, of miners, of missions, of ratters, etc.?
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stoicfaux
2511
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:37:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:Tippia wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:Wait, are you saying that there are 1212 high sec systems, 695 low sec systems, and 6022 null and wh systems? No, the database is. How are you pulling out that data? MySQL + the retribution data dump.
Available here (and elsewhere): http://community.eveonline.com/community/toolkit.asp
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4165
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:38:00 -
[47] - Quote
Kane Alvo wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:I'm waiting. Number of f#cks given: 0.
Yes, it's obviously your prerogative to make yourself look like a complete tool.
You can probably also look forward to a rebuke from ISD for trying to bypass the word filter.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
1456
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:40:00 -
[48] - Quote
Vince Snetterton wrote:Tippia wrote:Vince Snetterton wrote:Wait, are you saying that there are 1212 high sec systems, 695 low sec systems, and 6022 null and wh systems? No, the database is. How are you pulling out that data?
Translation: ?could you please tell me how you are pulling out data that totally blows away my preconceived and faulty world view?"
There, fixed.
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Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:43:00 -
[49] - Quote
Allow moon goo to be mined in high sec and then i can on board more evenly distributing ind slots into null.
If you want everything to be easily accessible in null then it should be thast way in high and low sec.
Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire
Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space
Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President*
Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs.
A modern girl for a modern world. |
Dave Stark
1917
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:44:00 -
[50] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:If you want everything to be easily accessible in null then it should be thast way in high and low sec.
why should it?
you're tired, stop posting. |
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:48:00 -
[51] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:If you want everything to be easily accessible in null then it should be thast way in high and low sec. why should it?
Im glad that point when sailing right over your head....
lol
Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire
Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space
Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President*
Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs.
A modern girl for a modern world. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
8005
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:49:00 -
[52] - Quote
Arduemont wrote:Lol Malc, put your money where your mouth is. = P
Indeed I will.
Vote for Malcanis for CSM8
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=192717&find=unread |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4165
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:49:00 -
[53] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:Allow moon goo to be mined in high sec and then i can get on board more evenly distributing ind slots into null.
If you want everything to be easily accessible in null then it should be thast way in high and low sec.
Oh yea, and allow more R+I slots in high to match all the R+I going on in POSs in null.
Thanks. I know you all are for a balanced Eve so none of this should be a problem. Right?
You clearly don't understand what balance actually means.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
13116
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:50:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote:If you want everything to be easily accessible in null then it should be thast way in high and low sec. Sure. If we remove all the stations, CONCORD and item restrictions from high and low as wellGǪ
Quote:Oh yea, and allow more R+I slots in high to match all the R+I going on in POSs in null. This already exists, you knowGǪ so no, you're not getting that. You are getting much fewer S&I slots per your request above, though GÇö roughly a reduction of 90% or so should do it.
Vote Malcanis for CSM8. |
stoicfaux
2511
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:51:00 -
[55] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:Allow moon goo to be mined in high sec and then i can get on board more evenly distributing ind slots into null.
If you want everything to be easily accessible in null then it should be thast way in high and low sec.
Oh yea, and allow more R+I slots in high to match all the R+I going on in POSs in null.
Thanks. I know you all are for a balanced Eve so none of this should be a problem. Right?
You would also need to balance security, sov, and investment costs (player structures versus NPC stations)...
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Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
Casoff
875
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:52:00 -
[56] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:all the R+I going on in POSs in null.
all that R&I
Sariah Kion wrote:Im glad that point when sailing right over your head....
lol please explain for us stupids who are not as clever as you :( |
Snow Axe
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
1054
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:53:00 -
[57] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:Oh yea, and allow more R+I slots in high to match all the R+I going on in POSs in null.
How many slots do you really think that is?
"Look any reason why you need to talk like that? I have now reported you. I dont need to listen to your bad tone. If you cant have a grown up conversation then leave the thread[" |
baltec1
Bat Country
5522
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:53:00 -
[58] - Quote
So we have all learned a lesson today.
Null does indeed suck for industry, Some people who scream for numbers don't like it when people post said numbers, crying is being misused and WI. are not the worst posters in EVE. |
Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
206
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:55:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Allow moon goo to be mined in high sec and then i can get on board more evenly distributing ind slots into null.
If you want everything to be easily accessible in null then it should be thast way in high and low sec.
Oh yea, and allow more R+I slots in high to match all the R+I going on in POSs in null.
Thanks. I know you all are for a balanced Eve so none of this should be a problem. Right? You clearly don't understand what balance actually means.
Sure. Nerfing High Sec to sate all the null sec mouth breathers sounds like "balance" to me.
There is so much ISK pouring out of null sec this argument really is rather silly. Its just mouth breathers trying to dictate how others play the game by forcing them into their waiting cross hairs because they are not interested in the "gf" with their neighbors.
Tl;dr
This just In: Null sec tears continue to flow over high sec. More news at 10 Jim.
Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire
Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space
Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President*
Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs.
A modern girl for a modern world. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
RAZOR Alliance
4165
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Posted - 2013.03.07 16:57:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Allow moon goo to be mined in high sec and then i can get on board more evenly distributing ind slots into null.
If you want everything to be easily accessible in null then it should be thast way in high and low sec.
Oh yea, and allow more R+I slots in high to match all the R+I going on in POSs in null.
Thanks. I know you all are for a balanced Eve so none of this should be a problem. Right? You clearly don't understand what balance actually means. Sure. Nerfing High Sec to sate all the null sec mouth breathers sounds like "balance" to me. There is so much ISK pouring out of null sec this argument really is rather silly. Its just mouth breathers trying to dictate how others play the game by forcing them into their waiting cross hairs because they are not interested in the "gf" with their neighbors. Tl;dr This just In: Null sec tears continue to flow over high sec. More news at 10 Jim.
Nobody is telling you how to play the game. Nobody.
Quit being a crybaby.
Malcanis for CSM 8
Module activation timers are buggy - CCP please fix |
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