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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3548
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:59:00 -
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Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Andski wrote:also let me know when the equivalent of a ~20-30 minute engagement in hisec leads to 600b in losses The fact that you had that much to lose really doesnt fit well with the "we are poor, buff null sec or we will starve" argument the sock puppets have been running on the board for about a week. nobody has said that the argument is that hisec being as lucrative as it is means that there is no incentive to fund your ships in 0.0 and actually put your assets at risk, rather than simply funding your PvP in the risk-free newbie area We all know here on EVEO GD that highsec is far more than a newbie area.
It's a glorious productive utopia kept safe by CONCORD and maintained by all the NPC Corporations, like Caldari Navy, who maintains a massive trade hub in an assembly plant.... I am a nullsec zealot. |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:59:00 -
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there's plenty of complaining about sov you nitwit you just don't have the wits to notice anything but a threat to your bot-aspirant behavior |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.11 23:59:00 -
[33] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:Now that I have stirred some of the snakes with the truth...
Answer this question:
If you are truly looking for a better null sec and to draw players out into null sec why are you not at the forefront pushing for fundamental changes to SOV mechanics that would help break up the stagnant nature of SOV space?
You cant expect logical thinkers to believe that you are for the betterment of pvp and EVE when you only attack the mechanics of high sec and completely avoid the glaring issues in your own backyard.
check it out, ladies and gentlemen, this guy thinks we haven't been pushing for sov mechanics changes since 2010 while CCP has been more focused on bullshit expansions like tyrannis, incursion and incarna ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3548
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:00:00 -
[34] - Quote
Andski wrote:you're still wrong and you haven't "stirred" any snakes, we just smelled the blood in the water
please continue being wrong because your cashout potential from this game is being threatened Internet spaceship forum blood.
Anyway highsec is safe, there shouldn't be spaceblood there. Unless an evil suicide ganker accidentally a freighter with 12 billion isk of stuff in it. I am a nullsec zealot. |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:00:00 -
[35] - Quote
~by saying something hilariously obviously wrong in the title, i have puppetmastered people into opposing me which somehow means i was right all along~
~i have won again, people with braincells~ |

Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:01:00 -
[36] - Quote
Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Andski wrote:also let me know when the equivalent of a ~20-30 minute engagement in hisec leads to 600b in losses The fact that you had that much to lose really doesnt fit well with the "we are poor, buff null sec or we will starve" argument the sock puppets have been running on the board for about a week. nobody has said that the argument is that hisec being as lucrative as it is means that there is no incentive to fund your ships in 0.0 and actually put your assets at risk, rather than simply funding your PvP in the risk-free newbie area
Without a change to null sec SOV mechanics...where will they go? Oh, that's right. They will either rent from you or get popped until they unsubscribe and uninstall.
Any push for change to move players out of high sec that doesn't include and in depth push to change SOV mechanics is just and empty self serving load of malarkey.
Put your money were your mouth is. Back change to high sec and null sec SOV. Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President* Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. A modern girl for a modern world. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3548
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:02:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:there's plenty of complaining about sov you nitwit you just don't have the wits to notice anything but a threat to your bot-aspirant behavior Ah I see. The James 315 thread is a different one, why did you make a post about null for that?
Bumpers and gankers in highsec are pretty different from industrialists using nearly free and highly available production slots in NPC station.
Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:If you are truly looking for a better null sec and to draw players out into null sec why are you not at the forefront pushing for fundamental changes to SOV mechanics that would help break up the stagnant nature of SOV space?
You cant expect logical thinkers to believe that you are for the betterment of pvp and EVE when you only attack the mechanics of high sec and completely avoid the glaring issues in your own backyard. check it out, ladies and gentlemen, this guy thinks we haven't been pushing for sov mechanics changes since 2010 while CCP has been more focused on bullshit expansions like tyrannis, incursion and incarna Should've shoved them harder, maybe we could have avoided incarna.
Nah, it was inevitable. I am a nullsec zealot. |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:02:00 -
[38] - Quote
do the thing you have been doing for years
not because you have been doing it for years do it because i command you
please
someone do something because of me besides mock me
please |

Primary Me
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:02:00 -
[39] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:Now that I have stirred some of the snakes with the truth...
Answer this question:
If you are truly looking for a better null sec and to draw players out into null sec why are you not at the forefront pushing for fundamental changes to SOV mechanics that would help break up the stagnant nature of SOV space?
You cant expect logical thinkers to believe that you are for the betterment of pvp and EVE when you only attack the mechanics of high sec and completely avoid the glaring issues in your own backyard. Because changing the way industry is done in null is a part of changing how sov works
James 315 for CSM 8. A voice for hi-sec, a voice for reason. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:03:00 -
[40] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Andski wrote:also let me know when the equivalent of a ~20-30 minute engagement in hisec leads to 600b in losses The fact that you had that much to lose really doesnt fit well with the "we are poor, buff null sec or we will starve" argument the sock puppets have been running on the board for about a week. nobody has said that the argument is that hisec being as lucrative as it is means that there is no incentive to fund your ships in 0.0 and actually put your assets at risk, rather than simply funding your PvP in the risk-free newbie area Without a change to null sec SOV mechanics...where will they go? Oh, that's right. They will either rent from you or get popped until they unsubscribe and uninstall. Any push for change to move players out of high sec that doesn't include and in depth push to change SOV mechanics is just and empty self serving load of malarkey. Put your money were your mouth is. Back change to high sec and null sec SOV.
**** we haven't lobbied for sov changes ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:03:00 -
[41] - Quote
EvilweaselSA wrote:~by saying something hilariously obviously wrong in the title, i have puppetmastered people into opposing me which somehow means i was right all along~
~i have won again, people with braincells~ Oh ho, but actually we're just using this to give the impression that actually highsec is truly balanced.
Because you're right even when you're a moron who shouldn't be allowed to post? Wait no, it's because nullsec is fine? No, highsec is fine, that's what matters.
Another blue donut? I am a nullsec zealot. |

Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:04:00 -
[42] - Quote
Primary Me wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Now that I have stirred some of the snakes with the truth...
Answer this question:
If you are truly looking for a better null sec and to draw players out into null sec why are you not at the forefront pushing for fundamental changes to SOV mechanics that would help break up the stagnant nature of SOV space?
You cant expect logical thinkers to believe that you are for the betterment of pvp and EVE when you only attack the mechanics of high sec and completely avoid the glaring issues in your own backyard. Because changing the way industry is done in null is a part of changing how sov works
No, no its not.
Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President* Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. A modern girl for a modern world. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:04:00 -
[43] - Quote
EvilweaselSA wrote:do the thing you have been doing for years
not because you have been doing it for years do it because i command you
please
someone do something because of me besides mock me
please I'm doing it harder. Mmmmhhh~~~ aww yeah. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:05:00 -
[44] - Quote
"naturally these guys want changes to hisec so they can expand their expansive renter empire" ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:05:00 -
[45] - Quote
Alavaria Fera wrote:EvilweaselSA wrote:~by saying something hilariously obviously wrong in the title, i have puppetmastered people into opposing me which somehow means i was right all along~
~i have won again, people with braincells~ Oh ho, but actually we're just using this to give the impression that actually highsec is truly balanced. Because you're right even when you're a moron who shouldn't be allowed to post? Wait no, it's because nullsec is fine? No, highsec is fine, that's what matters. Another blue donut?
All the little sock puppets are drawn like moths to a flame. Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President* Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. A modern girl for a modern world. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:05:00 -
[46] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:No, no its not.
okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Antir
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:05:00 -
[47] - Quote
You probably shouldn't eat those blue donuts. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:05:00 -
[48] - Quote
Primary Me wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Now that I have stirred some of the snakes with the truth...
Answer this question:
If you are truly looking for a better null sec and to draw players out into null sec why are you not at the forefront pushing for fundamental changes to SOV mechanics that would help break up the stagnant nature of SOV space?
You cant expect logical thinkers to believe that you are for the betterment of pvp and EVE when you only attack the mechanics of high sec and completely avoid the glaring issues in your own backyard. Because changing the way industry is done in null is a part of changing how sov works Jump freighters are the only nullsec-relevant part of most industry.
Most being production of non-supercapital things. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:06:00 -
[49] - Quote
npc alts can't accuse others of sockpuppetry because they are, by nature, sockpuppets ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:06:00 -
[50] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Andski wrote:also let me know when the equivalent of a ~20-30 minute engagement in hisec leads to 600b in losses The fact that you had that much to lose really doesnt fit well with the "we are poor, buff null sec or we will starve" argument the sock puppets have been running on the board for about a week. nobody has said that the argument is that hisec being as lucrative as it is means that there is no incentive to fund your ships in 0.0 and actually put your assets at risk, rather than simply funding your PvP in the risk-free newbie area Without a change to null sec SOV mechanics...where will they go? Oh, that's right. They will either rent from you or get popped until they unsubscribe and uninstall. Any push for change to move players out of high sec that doesn't include and in depth push to change SOV mechanics is just and empty self serving load of malarkey. Put your money were your mouth is. Back change to high sec and null sec SOV.
Oh god a either or option. Our argument is destroyed
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:07:00 -
[51] - Quote
Andski wrote:"naturally these guys want changes to hisec so they can expand their expansive renter empire" Wait, it's us, isn't it. We're actually renting all this sov from WIdot
Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:No, no its not. okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail I don't know, but I bet Boat does !!
Antir wrote:You probably shouldn't eat those blue donuts. Shut up, they're perfectly balanced in terms of highsec production (100%) I am a nullsec zealot. |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:08:00 -
[52] - Quote
let us all listen to the well-researched opinion of the guy who thinks nullsec hasn't been bitching about the terrible sov system since about three months after it was implemented and who has based his entire argument off that easily-debunked factual error
that sounds like a great use of time |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:08:00 -
[53] - Quote
Ustrello wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Andski wrote:also let me know when the equivalent of a ~20-30 minute engagement in hisec leads to 600b in losses The fact that you had that much to lose really doesnt fit well with the "we are poor, buff null sec or we will starve" argument the sock puppets have been running on the board for about a week. nobody has said that the argument is that hisec being as lucrative as it is means that there is no incentive to fund your ships in 0.0 and actually put your assets at risk, rather than simply funding your PvP in the risk-free newbie area Without a change to null sec SOV mechanics...where will they go? Oh, that's right. They will either rent from you or get popped until they unsubscribe and uninstall. Any push for change to move players out of high sec that doesn't include and in depth push to change SOV mechanics is just and empty self serving load of malarkey. Put your money were your mouth is. Back change to high sec and null sec SOV. Oh god a either or option. Our argument is destroyed EITHER do your industry in highsec and JF it to null OR kil---
Never mind. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:09:00 -
[54] - Quote
EvilweaselSA wrote:let us all listen to the well-researched opinion of the guy who thinks nullsec hasn't been bitching about the terrible sov system since about three months after it was implemented and who has based his entire argument off that easily-debunked factual error
that sounds like a great use of time You're posting, you're spending your time wisely as well. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Velicitia
Open Designs
1224
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:09:00 -
[55] - Quote
Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:No, no its not. okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail
listen to FC. hope I don't get called a lemming.  Malcanis for CSM 8! |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:10:00 -
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Why complain about blue donuts (that are engaged in fighting all the time): an honest look at structure shooting, timer by timer I am a nullsec zealot. |

Primary Me
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
38
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:10:00 -
[57] - Quote
Sariah Kion wrote:Primary Me wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Now that I have stirred some of the snakes with the truth...
Answer this question:
If you are truly looking for a better null sec and to draw players out into null sec why are you not at the forefront pushing for fundamental changes to SOV mechanics that would help break up the stagnant nature of SOV space?
You cant expect logical thinkers to believe that you are for the betterment of pvp and EVE when you only attack the mechanics of high sec and completely avoid the glaring issues in your own backyard. Because changing the way industry is done in null is a part of changing how sov works No, no its not.
That's it? Thats all you've got in response? Wow, sounds a bit like 'No YOU, Null Bear!' to me. I guess it was only a matter of time, although I admit I was surprised at the eloquence of your first couple of replies, I guess the old rant impulse just took over in the end. James 315 for CSM 8. A voice for hi-sec, a voice for reason. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:11:00 -
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Primary Me wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Primary Me wrote:Because changing the way industry is done in null is a part of changing how sov works No, no its not. That's it? Thats all you've got in response? Wow, sounds a bit like 'No YOU, Null Bear!' to me. I guess it was only a matter of time, although I admit I was surprised at the eloquence of you first couple of replies, I guess the old rant impulse just took over in the end. No U Nawl Baer
Velicitia wrote:Andski wrote:okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail listen to FC. hope I don't get called a lemming.  Jump to Boat with all the supercaps. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:13:00 -
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Primary Me wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Primary Me wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:Now that I have stirred some of the snakes with the truth...
Answer this question:
If you are truly looking for a better null sec and to draw players out into null sec why are you not at the forefront pushing for fundamental changes to SOV mechanics that would help break up the stagnant nature of SOV space?
You cant expect logical thinkers to believe that you are for the betterment of pvp and EVE when you only attack the mechanics of high sec and completely avoid the glaring issues in your own backyard. Because changing the way industry is done in null is a part of changing how sov works No, no its not. That's it? Thats all you've got in response? Wow, sounds a bit like 'No YOU, Null Bear!' to me. I guess it was only a matter of time, although I admit I was surprised at the eloquence of your first couple of replies, I guess the old rant impulse just took over in the end.
Well you introduced the idea into the discourse. How about you tell me how that helps change SOV mechanics before you call on me to back my response to your post through ad hominems. Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President* Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. A modern girl for a modern world. |

Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:15:00 -
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Bark bark |
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