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EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:18:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote: Well you introduced the idea into the discourse. How about you tell me how that helps change SOV mechanics before you call on me to back my response to your post through ad hominems.
please see all of the numerous well-written articles on the subject that you ignored along with everything else that exists in the world of facts |

Antir
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
6
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:18:00 -
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poncho :smith: |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:19:00 -
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Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:No, no its not. okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail
notice that the npc alt has not responded to this question ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:No, no its not. okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail notice that the npc alt has not responded to this question
Becasue its a strawman.
Its common knowledge how SOV works.
Notice how none of you are willing to admit that SOV, as is, is far more detrimental to good pvp than anything going on in high sec.
Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President* Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. A modern girl for a modern world. |

Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
1316
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:21:00 -
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This thread is going places, and by "places" I mean "nowhere". I support Malcanis and Psychotic Monk for CSM8. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:22:00 -
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see hiseccers are against an industry revamp to nullsec because it would be contrary to their goal of amassing as much isk as possible before cashing out of the game
an industry revamp in 0.0 would mean that a large number of the items consumed in 0.0 would be produced there, with only low-end minerals being imported from hisec
naturally, hisec producers don't wish to compete with their nullsec counterparts ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:22:00 -
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Andski wrote:Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:No, no its not. okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail notice that the npc alt has not responded to this question that question does not exist in sariah kion's reality
you need to stop having this actual-reality bias and start dealing with a reality where all facts that are problematic for sariah kion's bot-aspirant fantasies do not exist |

Ustrello
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
90
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:22:00 -
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Andski wrote:Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:No, no its not. okay guy since you clearly know about sovereignty, explain the process of taking a station system in detail notice that the npc alt has not responded to this question
How dare you question his all knowing power on everything EVE related. Bloody peasant |

Mistress Motion
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
24
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:22:00 -
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Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.
Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber. |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
406
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:23:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote: Notice how none of you are willing to admit that SOV, as is, is far more detrimental to good pvp than anything going on in high sec.
see a person interested in factual reality might have noticed the four pages of "sov sucks you idiot and should be replaced and we've been saying it for years"
but this is not the reality sariah kion chooses to use |
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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:24:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote:Its common knowledge how SOV works.
great so explain the process since it's "common knowledge"
explain to the class why a sovereignty revamp and an industry revamp do not effectively go hand-in-hand
keep in mind that most sov proposals have centered around activity-based sovereignty rather than passive ownership ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:25:00 -
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Mistress Motion wrote:Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.
Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber.
says the npc alt who posted nothing constructive in the thread other than "look @ teh goonies " ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:26:00 -
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Mistress Motion wrote:Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.
Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber.
*ding ding ding*
Its and interesting quandary. Not completely unexpected however.
Maybe the thread hits a little to close to home? Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President* Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. A modern girl for a modern world. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:27:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote:Mistress Motion wrote:Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.
Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber. *ding ding ding* Its and interesting quandary. Not completely unexpected however.
your idea of a constructive post is apparently "i agree with everything you say, you are always right"
but that's not in line with reality ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
407
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:28:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote:Mistress Motion wrote:Funny thing to see all the goons here suddenly. And none of them really has anything constructive to say.
Well, at least few of them sometimes do have good ideas, but those always drown in the sea of normal goon blabber. *ding ding ding* Its and interesting quandary. Not completely unexpected however. "oh look the similar npc alt just happened to pop in and agree with the initial poster then log out and the initial poster agrees with them
i sure hope nobody foolishly thinks sariah kion, desperately flailing to rescue her thread, is sockpuppeting it" |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
407
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:29:00 -
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what could salvage this argument facts? no dealing with reality? no sockpuppeting npc alts to mindlessly agree and say nothing? there's the ticket |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7023
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:30:00 -
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sariah kion perhaps if you wanted to provoke an actual discussion you wouldn't have blatantly poisoned the well in your OP
and then accused everyone who disagrees of being "sockpuppets" (because you, the npc alt poster, are obviously not a sockpuppet)
and then posted with another character that is obviously your alt ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:31:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:what could salvage this argument facts? no dealing with reality? no sockpuppeting npc alts to mindlessly agree and say nothing? there's the ticket The oldest trick in the boat.
We GEWNS are also capable of mindlessly putting together arguments based on evidence. See: Many posts on this very subject. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3549
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:31:00 -
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Andski wrote:sariah kion perhaps if you wanted to provoke an actual discussion you wouldn't have blatantly poisoned the well in your OP
and then accused everyone who disagrees of being "sockpuppets" (because you, the npc alt poster, are obviously not a sockpuppet) TRAWLING 4 TROWLZZ I am a nullsec zealot. |

Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:33:00 -
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Andski wrote:sariah kion perhaps if you wanted to provoke an actual discussion you wouldn't have blatantly poisoned the well in your OP
and then accused everyone who disagrees of being "sockpuppets" (because you, the npc alt poster, are obviously not a sockpuppet)
and then posted with another character that is obviously your alt
I see you still choose to attack the poster and not debate the post.
A tactic those of your ilk are familiar with Im afraid.
Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President* Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. A modern girl for a modern world. |
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ImNotCyno Alt5
Corporate Scum Test Friends Please Ignore
11
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:33:00 -
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Coming from a high sec NPC char . Talking about null and pop. This thread is worth reading. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7028
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:35:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote:I see you still choose to attack the poster and not debate the post.
A tactic those of your ilk are familiar with Im afraid.
what part of it isn't true
did you poison the well in the OP? yes
did you accuse others of being sockpuppets? yes
did you hop over to another npc corp posting alt to agree with yourself? yes
are you engaging in this very same practice of attacking the poster and not debating the post? yes ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7028
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:37:00 -
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allow me to point out where you blatantly poisoned the well
Sariah Kion wrote:I started to ask myself why do these null sec carebears continually come to the forums and complain about high sec and its pending destruction of this great pvp game when the SOV mechanics and system have done more harm to pvp then anything in high sec at current or in the future.
The answer is fairly obvious. These null sec alliances whom have blued up 70% of SOV space love their empires filled with isk spigots attached to moons giving them enormous passively earned wealth. They love to shoot their wealthy rats without a care in the world making more isk than mission runners in high sec. Lets not forget how much isk they earn shooting up dead space complexes without any worry about pvp. They can mine without any risk and reap the benefits. Hell no they dont want that to change. Instead they focus their energies on taking MORE by trying to lay the blame for the state of pvp in the game at the doorsteps of high sec.
I argue that may of the loudmouthed null bear trolls on this forum are more risk averse than many of the targets of their sharp tongued attacks. They are not looking for "change" to better EVE, bring about more pvp or bring balance to the game as a whole, they are simply looking for more isk and power.
Its a shame. If these null care bears would put as much effort into changing the real mechanic that can bring null sec back to life instead of engaging in the only pvp they wish to engage in at this point which is forum pvp. Turn that energy into changing SOV and it would benefit EVERYONE in the game and would draw people into null because they would have a fighting chance.
Unfortunately they are not interested in such a noble endeavor. They will merely keep on hiding the fact they are the ones who truly are the care bears hiding form the good fight behind terrible mechanics all the while acting the full part of hypocrite while pointing the finger at the "risk averse" high sec'er as the doom of everything good and righteous in EVE.
Null bears, you are not fooling anyone and only serve to make yourselves and your alliances look even more foolish than they currently look.
well it was actually the entirety of your OP save for that first sentence
need i point out the hypocrisy in crying "ad hominem" when you, well, poisoned the well to begin with ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3550
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:38:00 -
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Andski wrote:Sariah Kion wrote:I see you still choose to attack the poster and not debate the post.
A tactic those of your ilk are familiar with Im afraid. what part of it isn't true did you poison the well in the OP? yes did you accuse others of being sockpuppets? yes did you hop over to another npc corp posting alt to agree with yourself? yes are you engaging in this very same practice of attacking the poster and not debating the post? yes Yeah I'm very familiar with it. I see it being used from the very OP of this thread.
It's not unusual in GD. As mentioned, using "an honest look" or throwaway words like "Discuss" are clear indicators. I am a nullsec zealot. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3550
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:38:00 -
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Andski wrote:allow me to point out where you blatantly poisoned the well Sariah Kion wrote:I started to ask myself why do these null sec carebears continually come to the forums and complain about high sec and its pending destruction of this great pvp game when the SOV mechanics and system have done more harm to pvp then anything in high sec at current or in the future.
The answer is fairly obvious. These null sec alliances whom have blued up 70% of SOV space love their empires filled with isk spigots attached to moons giving them enormous passively earned wealth. They love to shoot their wealthy rats without a care in the world making more isk than mission runners in high sec. Lets not forget how much isk they earn shooting up dead space complexes without any worry about pvp. They can mine without any risk and reap the benefits. Hell no they dont want that to change. Instead they focus their energies on taking MORE by trying to lay the blame for the state of pvp in the game at the doorsteps of high sec.
I argue that may of the loudmouthed null bear trolls on this forum are more risk averse than many of the targets of their sharp tongued attacks. They are not looking for "change" to better EVE, bring about more pvp or bring balance to the game as a whole, they are simply looking for more isk and power.
Its a shame. If these null care bears would put as much effort into changing the real mechanic that can bring null sec back to life instead of engaging in the only pvp they wish to engage in at this point which is forum pvp. Turn that energy into changing SOV and it would benefit EVERYONE in the game and would draw people into null because they would have a fighting chance.
Unfortunately they are not interested in such a noble endeavor. They will merely keep on hiding the fact they are the ones who truly are the care bears hiding form the good fight behind terrible mechanics all the while acting the full part of hypocrite while pointing the finger at the "risk averse" high sec'er as the doom of everything good and righteous in EVE.
Null bears, you are not fooling anyone and only serve to make yourselves and your alliances look even more foolish than they currently look. well it was actually the entirety of your OP save for that first sentence need i point out the hypocrisy in crying "ad hominem" when you, well, poisoned the well to begin with I think the well just has poison and no water: "an honest look" I am a nullsec zealot. |

Sariah Kion
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
209
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:39:00 -
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If these "folks" really wanted to drive EVE into a better place as far as pvp there would be posts pushing SOV changes instead of complaining about high sec industrialists.
Thats really at the bottom of the well.
The change being pushed isnt about pvp or a better EVE its about agenda driven mandates to increase their bottom line and interests.
The first null sec SOV dweller that comes out and says we need change to the game as a whole, starting with SOV and working or way back up to High Sec is a poster and movement I would get behind and support.
Librarian and Exotic Dancer Extraordinaire Champion of the Working Men and Women of Empire Space Anti-Null Sec Opium Den Movement *President* Not the woman high sec wants but the Woman high sec needs. A modern girl for a modern world. |

EvilweaselSA
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
411
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:40:00 -
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~you have failed to force your facts from actual-reality into my reality, therefore i win~ |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3550
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:40:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:Andski wrote:notice that the npc alt has not responded to this question that question does not exist in sariah kion's reality you need to stop having this actual-reality bias and start dealing with a reality where all facts that are problematic for sariah kion's bot-aspirant fantasies do not exist
EvilweaselSA wrote:see a person interested in factual reality might have noticed the four pages of "sov sucks you idiot and should be replaced and we've been saying it for years"
but this is not the reality sariah kion chooses to use Rejecting reality and replacing it with you own..
eh? I am a nullsec zealot. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
7028
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:40:00 -
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Sariah Kion wrote:If these "folks" really wanted to drive EVE into a better place as far as pvp there would be posts pushing SOV changes instead of complaining about high sec industrialists.
Thats really at the bottom of the well.
The change being pushed isnt about pvp or a better EVE its about agenda driven mandates to increase their bottom line and interests.
The first null sec SOV dweller that comes out and says we need change to the game as a whole, starting with SOV and working or way back up to High Sec is a poster and movement I would get behind and support.
oh look it's like you blatantly ignored the last 5 pages of this thread where people told you "yeah no we've actually been pushing for sov changes for three years" ~*a proud belligerent undesirable*~ TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest. Malcanis for CSM 8 |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3550
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Posted - 2013.03.12 00:41:00 -
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EvilweaselSA wrote:~you have failed to force your facts from actual-reality into my reality, therefore i win~ Their reality should just have had them winning at the get go.
Discuss. I am a nullsec zealot. |
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