i'm just laughing at you for pretending that hisec is anything but welfare land

i'm just laughing at you for pretending that hisec is anything but welfare land

This is a prime example of the thought process that leads to these pushes for nerfing high sec. Its not about "fixing pvp" or any other benevolent issue they claim. Its about some misplaced hatred for people who play the game different from themselves.

The fact that many toons in these null sec alliances have NOTHING to fear or risk because of the nature of SOV mechanics is the height of irony and hypocrisy.

Our GLORIOUS welfare land, where you can enjoy the fruits of NPC-provided services and even protection.

hard to compare the two, since "risk" is actually a quantity outside of highsec

So you're saying that CCP should throw away all the lore and backstory of the game and Empire space because "you mad"?

Most criminal types loathe law and order and government institutions in general.

Not surprised at your response.

the lore and backstory don't really make any sense when empires and CONCORD don't tax you for their protection and infrastructure

since hiseccers LOVE realism perhaps a 35% tax is in order, Just Like Real Life

Im not opposed to such a change so long as it comes right after the SOV change.

also i don't mean bumping npc corp taxes to 35%

i quite literally mean a hisec-wide tax

Hey I went to that site you're advertising and learned that zergs are ruining Planetside 2 but zergs are great for EVE.

So why has the blame shifted to high sec as the cause of so many woes in null sec pvp?

If we all agree that the SOV mechanic is terrible and needs to change seems we should all work together to get it done. At that point. We can have an honest discourse and move to change/nerf high sec to bring it in line with the "NEW" null sec.

Im not opposed to change in high sec. Im opposed to change in high sec that only satisfies ulterior motives and is driven by greed and power.

Hey I went to that site you're advertising and learned that zergs are ruining Planetside 2 but zergs are great for EVE.

it's almost like they are two different games

but i wouldn't expect the foil of the eve forums to consider facts contrary to its narrative

Zergs: Same ole problem, in every single mmo that makes it possible.

Let the nullbears cry till their pointless little empire breaks up from the inside. If they cared for anything besides their passive ISK/hour they'd break up their blue crapcake into a thousand pieces themselves.

The problem isn't SOV or Highsec, the problem is the Zerg and the F1 monkeys that participate. In the meanwhile, I'm looking forward to the Wargames. 10% TiDi in meaningless fights should be sooo exciting for everyone participating.

also i don't mean bumping npc corp taxes to 35%

i quite literally mean a hisec-wide tax

That wouldn't make a difference really as everything on the market would just increase by at least that much if not more to make up the difference.

I'd also wager that you would see a large number of subscriptions lapse.

if so many worthless pubbies are deeply concerned about two coalitions not grinding each other to death, why don't they band together and fight one of the two coalitions

oh right, it wouldn't be conducive to their goal of maximizing their cashouts

I would much rather Null industry is fixed as well as Sov when they get there.

With usage Sov it will mean if I want to duck shoot I know where to go and with an improved industry will mean I can go any where and pop some ratters or miners.

we don't give a flying **** what's "good for the game" in our politics; our continued existence takes priority over all else

nullsec isn't a spectator sport, if you want a war, shut off your ice mining bot and actually make some effort to form a group to fight us

otherwise, stop moaning

we don't give a flying **** what's "good for the game"; our continued existence takes priority over all else

I don't know about you two, but when I hear that Boat is going to shoot structures in subcaps I get a little ... excited.

And here we have the whole reason why they've been bleating for changes that benefit them over every other section of the game, why every change they have been screaming about is about making their little empires nigh untouchable at the detriment of any other section of space.

Good to know the wargames they're running is just a massive attempt to make CCP do what they want or they'll quit, at least according to Shadoo. Maybe the best thing to EVE would be the old blood burning out over a years long sov war and all quitting. Imagine the scramble for space (and excitement) left in that vacuum.

we don't give a flying **** what's "good for the game" in our politics; our continued existence takes priority over all else

nullsec isn't a spectator sport, if you want a war, shut off your ice mining bot and actually make some effort to form a group to fight us

otherwise, stop moaning

no you wouldn't unless that's a market tax

good, those are not the types that belong in eve anyway

If these "folks" really wanted to drive EVE into a better place as far as pvp there would be posts pushing SOV changes instead of complaining about high sec industrialists.

So why has the blame shifted to high sec as the cause of so many woes in null sec pvp?

I dont expect you to see the obvious irony and hypocrisy

Oh look, once again we have the usual null crowd trying to convince everyone that null income sucks yet they're scared to do anything to risk their isk faucets and grip on power.-áincome isn't particularly a factor and that it would be nice if more things were at risk in null.