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Deerin
Murientor Tribe
Defiant Legacy
87
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:44:00 -
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TrouserDeagle wrote:Unsubbing all accounts and uninstalling.
Can I haz?
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Gal'o Sengen
State War Academy
Caldari State
94
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:44:00 -
[32] - Quote
Navy Drake is essentially going to undo the Drake nerf and become the go-to blob ship. Yeah, the tank is weaker, but let me ask, when 300+ members of the enemy gang shoot at you all at once, do you really think 1 mid slot is going to save you?
Also, am i seeing things, or is the Fleet Cane is just the pre-nerf Hurricane? Really?
Harb and Brutix look nice though. |
Michael Harari
Genos Occidere
HYDRA RELOADED
555
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:45:00 -
[33] - Quote
Navy drake looks more like a bc sized caracal.
Therefore its bonuses should apply to rapid lights. |
May Wanderdriven
EVE University
Ivy League
4
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:47:00 -
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Catherine Laartii wrote:May Wanderdriven wrote:Why on earth there is no cap bonus for the harbinger navy? don't you guys know that cap is life? what's wrong with you? why do you insist of ruining the Amarr? Pretty sure that with the recent ship rebalances for amarr that CCP finally understood that the only sensible, straighforward way to fix amarr is to half the cap usage on the guns, instead of, you know, screwing over the ships by giving them bonuses to allow them to use the actual laser weapon in question. Or, more likely, they could just be rolling full steam ahead without even considering that and they'll all become useless hulks with the exception of the drone/neut boats.
If they are doing that, then by all means, do it. But the problem with that is that the amarr may be losing it's diversity.
Still it's far less worse than having no cap AT ALL. I'll want to hear from CCP about it to believe it though. |
Alyssa Haginen
State War Academy
Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:51:00 -
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LP prices are too high..a navy bs hull for only 25k lp more then a navy bc hull. 75k would make sure these hull stay at a fair and balanced price. The way they its set up now it puts navy BC prices at right around 200mil. |
Luc Chastot
Gentleman's Corp
290
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:51:00 -
[36] - Quote
"FW Loyalty Point stores, 1 run blueprint offer: for 125,000 LPs plus 10m ISK for 1 run BPC" you meant 100m?
Also, these ships are a bit underwhelming, considering the changes to the navy cruisers. I expected that if navy destroyers or battlecruisers were introduced, their roles would differ from their t1 counterparts just as much as navy cruisers will do after the rebalance. Also, I don't see the need of yet another Brutix-based ship, why not use the Myrm model? We could have our epic blaster boat for fleets in the shape of a Myrm, just as the Navy Exequror changed from logi to a combat role.
Make it idiot-proof and someone will make a better idiot. |
Sal Landry
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
46
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:52:00 -
[37] - Quote
Deerin wrote:
Drake has NO damage bonus. It will be out damaged by regular drakes AND it loses resist bonus, which is the strongest bonus in game imo. So in total I believe Drake NI will be....meh at best..
Slightly less dps with scourge, but 33% more dps with non-kinetic ammo and a damage application bonus that might let it use furies efficiently in PvP, instead of just the same old faction ammo. |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Atrocitas
3299
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:54:00 -
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I endorse this product and/or service. Also: I really like what you did with the Binger but wish you give it another low instead. Either way I'm gonna be really good friends with it. Especially because I'm in the Amarr militia. :)
-Liang
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Deerin
Murientor Tribe
Defiant Legacy
87
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:54:00 -
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May Wanderdriven wrote:Why on earth there is no cap bonus for the harbinger navy? don't you guys know that cap is life? what's wrong with you? why do you insist of ruining the Amarr?
You realize that you are getting a 5th med slot right? Put a Cap booster there and all your cap problems are solved. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
Whores in space
105
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Posted - 2013.04.10 17:57:00 -
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can you put some vinager and salt on the would alongside the hurricane? :P
That is almost evil. You could at least give it 1 ms extra speed just to be different :P |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1850
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:01:00 -
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Just responding to the faction BCs at the moment.
Meh.
Totally underwhelming. The navy drake actually takes a nerf in DPS unless you're firing non-scourge missiles at small targets, and takes a nerf in tank without the resist bonus.
Meet the navy hurricane, same as the old hurricane. Creative.
Harbinger - solid upgrade, congrats.
Brutix - also an improvement.
But for the cost? 150M isk premium on top of the base hull, at minimum? Maybe if they had Tech II resist profiles too.
Pass.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Vladimir Norkoff
Income Redistribution Service
120
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:02:00 -
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May Wanderdriven wrote:Catherine Laartii wrote:May Wanderdriven wrote:Why on earth there is no cap bonus for the harbinger navy? don't you guys know that cap is life? what's wrong with you? why do you insist of ruining the Amarr? Pretty sure that with the recent ship rebalances for amarr that CCP finally understood that the only sensible, straighforward way to fix amarr is to half the cap usage on the guns, instead of, you know, screwing over the ships by giving them bonuses to allow them to use the actual laser weapon in question. Or, more likely, they could just be rolling full steam ahead without even considering that and they'll all become useless hulks with the exception of the drone/neut boats. If they are doing that, then by all means, do it. But the problem with that is that the amarr may be losing it's diversity. Still it's far less worse than having no cap AT ALL. I'll want to hear from CCP about it to believe it though.
Errr.... You people do realize that this Navy Harb got an additional mid slot and more grid, right? So you can fit a cap booster in addition to your old fit. And last I checked, cap booster > no booster in PvP. So this is much much better than the cap bonus. But I'm sure if you whine and cry enough they can swap the tracking bonus for your old cap bonus, and then you can fit a tracking computer in the mid to get your tracking... :-/
Back in the day Ivy League actually taught players not to be complete idiots. What happened?
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AspiB'elt
Les chevaliers de l'ordre
Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:03:00 -
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my godness ccp
please
harbinger 4 m / 7 low
brutix 5m / 6 low
Amarr slot but range and tank
gallente quick less tank and heavy dps in very short range
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Mioelnir
Cataclysm Enterprises
99
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:06:00 -
[44] - Quote
Can't see how the regular LP store offer can stay competitive. Why add it at all? |
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
2614
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:06:00 -
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These seem fair but not op. Cant wait to see that serpentis myrmidon u got planned ;-) |
Princess Nexxala
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Samurai Pizza Cats
354
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:08:00 -
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Garbage
derp? |
Major Killz
182
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:09:00 -
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I had a big smile when I saw Harbinger Navy Issue. However, I was never a fan of making destroyer or battlecruiser navy issue. Seems like to me that battlecruisers were ment for cost and overall preformance. Adding more ships is always good thing and I suppose if you introduce these I must join factional warfare and role play my last days away in this game.
Anyway. I neither approve or disapprove.
- killz |
Klown Walk
Fat People Lag IRL
206
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:11:00 -
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Why would anyone use the standard hurricane over the navy one. |
Aliventi
Burning Napalm
Northern Coalition.
46
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:13:00 -
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This Navy drake is going to be so be OP. No longer restricted to just kinetic damage. Velocity bonus (Kiting HAM drake anyone?) and excellent damage projection against smaller targets? Simply beyond winning. |
Little Dragon Khamez
Guardians of the Underworld
White Mountain Coalition
104
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:15:00 -
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I see it differently, now we have two versions of the drake that are not worth flying. |
Arnst Atram
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
7
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:22:00 -
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Quote:BRUTIX NAVY ISSUE
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GÇó Defense (shields / armor / hull): 5250 / 6750 / 7125
...
But... Why? |
Aglais
Liberation Army
Li3 Federation
212
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:23:00 -
[52] - Quote
Why do we need these? |
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1850
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:24:00 -
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Aliventi wrote:This Navy drake is going to be so be OP. No longer restricted to just kinetic damage. Velocity bonus (Kiting HAM drake anyone?) and excellent damage projection against smaller targets? Simply beyond winning.
Congrats, you'll have a drake that can kill cruisers and perhaps take on frigates.
But last time I checked, 8 launchers with no bonus is lower DPS than 6 launchers with 50% bonus when using the correct ammo.
Hurray, you can use EM/explosive ammo now, and still do less DPS than the recently nerfed drakes.
I'm missing the OP part....
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
Major Killz
182
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:24:00 -
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Little Dragon Khamez wrote:I see it differently, now we have two versions of the drake that are not worth flying.
Well then you are blind. The Drake does seem to be very strong and will do signif more damage than the prenerf Drake to frigates. Which means nano-Drake is back with a vengeance. The Harbinger made out well too. Only the Brutix and Hurricane are terribub. CCP has it out for Minmatar. Still! I do not approve or disapprove of these ships.
- killz |
Liang Nuren
Heretic Army
Atrocitas
3299
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:28:00 -
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Mioelnir wrote:Can't see how the regular LP store offer can stay competitive. Why add it at all?
The regular LP stores have never been a good way to get ships. This is nothing new.
-Liang
Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?)
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Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
305
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:32:00 -
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Harby 6/5/7
Brutix 7/5/6
And roll back Mega to 8/5/6
And CCP u ll hit THE spot.
LF CSM8 candidate. Are you what lowsec needs? --->-átinyurl.com/afaawrb
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jonnykefka
Adhocracy Incorporated
Adhocracy
195
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:35:00 -
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This is relevant to my interests. I am especially fond of the Harby Navy, I can think of at least two very fun fits off the top of my head. Make that three. Yesss, get this on sisi please. I have exciting plans for that powergrid.
Moderately worried about cost. Is the 10x isk cost difference for the BPC real or a typo? Which one is the real cost? 10m for a one-run BPC seems sane, 100m doesn't. |
Sofia Wolf
Ubuntu Inc.
The Fourth District
176
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:36:00 -
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CCP Ytterbium wrote:
HURRICANE FLEET ISSUE
Over its regular version, this ship has 8 high slots, two utility slots, slightly more mobility and fittings, while the role itself doesnGÇÖt change. Kind of reminds us of something, but what could that be? Memory must be playing tricks on us.
GÇó Minmatar Battlecruiser skill bonuses: +5% to medium projectile damage and 5% bonus to medium projectile rate of fire per level
GÇó Slot layout: 8 H, 4 M, 6 L, 6 turrets, 3 launchers
GÇó Fittings: 1235 PWG, 420 CPU
GÇó Defense (shields / armor / hull): 6375 / 6750 / 5250
GÇó Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap per second): 2250 / 592 s / 3.8
GÇó Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 165 / 0.704 / 12500000 / 12.2 s
GÇó Drones (bandwidth / bay): 30 / 30
GÇó Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 50km / 220 / 6
GÇó Sensor strength: 20 Ladar
GÇó Signature radius: 250
If you going make it an old hurricane ad lest give us back power supply of old hurricane! Full 1350 power grid please!
Jessica Danikov > EVE is your real life. the rest is fantasy. caught in a corporation. no escape from banality. open up yours eyes, peer through pod good and seeeeeee. I'm just a poor pilot, I need no sympathy. because I'm easy scam, easy go, little isk, little know. anyway the solar wind blows... |
Minkert
Firebird Squadron
Terra-Incognita
0
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:54:00 -
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Shouldn't Drake bonus say '5% reduction to explosion radius/ lvl' it says says bonus... which makes it LESS effective against smaller craft... |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
557
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Posted - 2013.04.10 18:55:00 -
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Dat Myrmidon.
"I do want to point out one "abuse" thing I did see however. *snipped*
Please do not post details of possible exploits on the forums. - CCP Eterne"
... Because of Falcon. |
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