They better have sweet paint jobs. I'm serious.

For faction navy ships we've never really had a precedent of new hulls though, so why would we expect it this time?

All the navy frigates and 60% of all pirate frigates?

Nice one, I love it!
Now you just need to make Large plexes appear more often in FW so that we can also use these ships!

This, this, and this...

Make the loleos vertical and shiny and not camo, and keep the navy brutix.

I say that as a drone oriented pilot, please do not heed those wanting a navy myrmidon. The faction myrmidon if it ever exists, should be a product of Serpentis Corporation, there are ample serpentis gunboats, and there are ample navy droneboats.

"In YC 115, after much heated discussion, CONCORD issued a decree stating the Hurricane-Class Battlecruiser was far too effective to stay under its current technological label, and demanded the Minmatar Republic to either cease production or sort it as a more technologically advanced craft. The Tribal Council grudgingly complied by releasing a simplified version of the Hurricane, then quickly exploited a loophole in the legislation and began using the original overpowered hull as part of its active fleet force. And that is how, after a new paint coat and renaming fees that the Hurricane Fleet Issue came to be."

Listen, I get bans for calling devs lazy ****-heels, but coooooome ooooooooooooooooonnnn. You're baiting me here.

You guys are literally trolling us. Take our old ships away via nerf, bring them back at 3-4x the price and go v0v.

CCP I'll keep paying you money, but pls stop. stop. pls.

They better have sweet paint jobs. I'm serious.

Ytterbium pls.

A lot of people commenting on high LP cost of these.

It may be that LP for navy BS's will rise to be in line with this which would make sense from an isk risk/reward sense - time to start bulk buying navy BS's

Seems unlikely to me. Serp boats are all blasterboats.

One of the few things I like about navy ships is that they often have a larger drone bay, but these ones don't.
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it's very sad that navy drake does less damage than T1 drake
And fitting it is very hard.

2) Slot additions for Navy Brutix and Navy Harby. Why does the Brutix get the 7th low and the Harby get a 5th mid? Please explain? I think MANY people here have properly pointed out that it makes more sense to give the Brutix the extra mid and the Harby a 7th low.

I don't get why Gallente all of the sudden are getting the favorable low slot layout.

don't you think a mid slots helps a harbinger without cap-bonus more? you can fit a cap booster and still have full tackle'n'prop plus one utility med slot (eccm or tracking computer for optimal or even more tracking) or you could even shield tank it and use all those low slots for dmg'n'stuff.

The idea of a navy BC is supposed to be a BC that has been adapted to the use of the said navy/fleet. All of them have had that, but clearly the Amarrians want all their ships to be terrible. Having that many lows on a navy harbinger seems a little underwhelming, even lore wise.

2) Slot additions for Navy Brutix and Navy Harby. Why does the Brutix get the 7th low and the Harby get a 5th mid? Please explain? I think MANY people here have properly pointed out that it makes more sense to give the Brutix the extra mid and the Harby a 7th low.

The only thing it does less dps with is kinetic dmg, with all other dmg types it will do more. As for the fitting issue, Fit 1 LSE instead of 2 and you should be just fine.

I think they did it because Gallente pilots already know that an extra midslot is better than an extra low for these ships. Be happy you have an extra midslot for more solo-ish activities.