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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:11:00 -
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EVE Online: Incarna 1.1.2 has been deployed. This patch focuses on increased hangar functionality, including the return of ship spinning, a new Cider engine for the Mac client and several other fixes. A Client Update is also available, focusing on further improvements with ship spinning. The full patch notes can be found here.
This thread is for issues and problems. When reporting issues, please specify which client you are using (Mac or PC). This thread is for reporting issues only; for general feedback please use the Incarna: 1.1.2 feedback thread here.
We have also a specific thread for Mac feedback and issues, which can be found here. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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Spanking Monkeys
ZC Industries
4
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:23:00 -
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logged in, in space, mid slot mod offlined over dt due to high slots being onlined.
the high slot mods were offline prior to dt and mid slot was online.. randomness |
Frakir Shedimuthgur
Vacation Spot
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:48:00 -
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Platform: PC My overview windows change size and position randomly after dock / undock. Cleared cache, restarted client... nope still not working properly. Very annoying. |
Noertti
Lacco and The Gang Paisti Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:54:00 -
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Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Good job screwing up your attempt on redemption CCP, won't be investing in a plex anymore. |
An ewb
N0 Tax Korpo
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:57:00 -
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the monitor window, the one you get when you press ctrl-alt-shift-m client freezes (not responding) after clicking the ROT tab happened both in space and at station |
Sarina Berghil
New Zion Judge Advocate
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:57:00 -
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Autopatching fails with the following message: "Applying the patch has failed, do you wish to launch the repair tool and have it attempt to fix the broken client?"
Seems to happen after the step: "Create Folder: c:\ProgramData\CCP\EvE\Downloads"
The "Details" button is unclickable due to a modal dialogue.
Another error message appears when declining the repair tool: "Download Failed with the following error: IBackgroundCopyManager::CreateJob"
Using Windows 7 trying to run as administrator.
This seems to be a recurring issue, although the previous patch did install without issue. Seems to be something random happening on your end.
Repair tool will patch the game but not repair the issue itself.
Manual patching usually works.
This issue is impossible to bug report because it isn't 'reproducible', therefore I use this channel. First occurence December 2010. |
bandsaw1961
UNFRL Fleet Operations CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
4
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:57:00 -
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Overview window (positioned on the right) always shrinks in height and the D-scan window (positioned below it) moves up when I undock. Station services window is shrunk in height and sometimes appears half way down the screen. (On a PC windows 7) |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:58:00 -
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Noertti wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Good job screwing up your attempt on redemption CCP, won't be investing in a plex anymore.
Are you on PC or Mac? Please provide the following details and we'll look into it:
* Ship type * Hardware details * Graphics settings. CCP Goliath | QA Team Lead |
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MODVATTER
EldarRiders Stainwagon.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 12:58:00 -
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Client: Mac
Issue: When download has finished (In Client) the patcher runs and a status pops up:
'Verifying...ogram Files/CCP/EVE/script/complied.code'
The patcher hangs and then pops up:
'Some of the files have been modified!' 'Please re-install'
Log (Partial):
Examining File : /Contents/MacOS/cider -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Czech.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Czech.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Czech.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Danish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Danish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Danish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Dutch.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Dutch.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Dutch.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/es-419.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/es-419.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/es-419.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Finnish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Finnish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Finnish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/French.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/French.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/French.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/German.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/German.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/German.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Greek.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Greek.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Greek.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Hungarian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Hungarian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Hungarian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Italian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Italian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Italian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Norwegian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Norwegian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Norwegian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Polish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Polish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Polish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Portuguese.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Portuguese.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Portuguese.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/pt_BR.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/pt_BR.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/pt_BR.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Russian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Russian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Russian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Spanish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Spanish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Spanish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Swedish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Swedish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Swedish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/tgApplyPatch.app/Contents/Info.plist -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/tgApplyPatch.app/Contents/Frameworks/tgUpdate.framework/tgUpdate -> OK
Seems to only be the language files that are affected. Maybe this is a XSlimmer issue, where by a lot of people slim their systems by removing unnecessary languages?
On a side note, I have never had any issues with an update before. |
Baljos Arnjak
Dark Praetorian Order
2
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:01:00 -
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Yep, I'm getting some overview and station services window size funkiness too, any adjustments to either of those windows that I do don't seem to stick. I've cleared cache but no effect. |
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Daesis Wrack
Bite me inc. Narwhals Ate My Duck
1
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:12:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:
- Some players may experience their station services and overview windows shrinking to minimum size when they dock or undock.
Is this the sort of thing you'll have a client patch for tomorrow, or is this one gonna linger around for another couple expansions? Cause this is affecting a lot of people and is basically game-breaking. |
Frakir Shedimuthgur
Vacation Spot
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:23:00 -
[12] - Quote
So, just out of curiosity: did the QA department have a look at this patch or it was released with a 'let's see what happens' attitude? |
Creat Posudol
True Knights Templar
2
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:24:00 -
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Patch failed to apply for me (previous patch was no problem), but the repair tool fixed it.
I'm also one of those people who end up with a "snapshot.memory_dump.xml" on the desktop everytime I run EVE, which seems to be unchanged... |
Altarica
The Pale Eye
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:25:00 -
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Noertti wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Good job screwing up your attempt on redemption CCP, won't be investing in a plex anymore.
I know this is probably no help to you but it may help CCP figure this out but I had this issue and have managed to solve it in a round about fashion.
I have two Eve client installs (I've always found this easier). After the patch today one client would not spin ships on any accounts but the other install would spin ships on ALL accounts.
What I did was copy all the files from my "documents and settings\username\application data\ccp\eve\client ONE install\settings"
folder to my
"documents and settings\username\application data\ccp\eve\client TWO install\settings"
folder.
So it looks like the non-spinny thing is caused by something within the character settings files.
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Opusmind
iSTRP Unleashed Dark Solar Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:27:00 -
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Noertti wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin
Same problem here, but I think I disabled spinning some months ago here on my work PC. Will check on my own PC when I get home, if it works there. Opusmind Director & Recruitment Officer iSTRP Unleashed
ustrp.org |
Cpt Rev
Rudel Taktik Exodus.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:28:00 -
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Odd Ship issue in Hanger. Switching from Badger to Tengu
Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eJybMpf7oQ |
Opusmind
iSTRP Unleashed Dark Solar Empire
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:30:00 -
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T3 badger FTW! The Bengu looks awesome! Opusmind Director & Recruitment Officer iSTRP Unleashed
ustrp.org |
Ezra Mernher
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:31:00 -
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CCP Phantom wrote:Known Issues
- Some players may experience their station services and overview windows shrinking to minimum size when they dock or undock.
Re: the Overview and Station Services resizing:
Not sure if this will help everyone but I turned on "Load Station Environments" and cycled between CQ and Hangar, Undocked and turned "Load Station Environments" off again.
Since then, the windows seem to have stayed in the one spot. |
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CCP Bella Bee
C C P C C P Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:32:00 -
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Daesis Wrack wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:
- Some players may experience their station services and overview windows shrinking to minimum size when they dock or undock.
Is this the sort of thing you'll have a client patch for tomorrow, or is this one gonna linger around for another couple expansions? Cause this is affecting a lot of people and is basically game-breaking. We are treating this as a high priority issue. And to address the QA question, unfortunately it's one of those issues that only happen under certain circumstances (the details of which we haven't determined yet but part of it is the timing of sequence of events) which didn't occur in our test environment. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time, these are really the most annoying bugs. |
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Nathan Jameson
Talocan Vanguard Talocan United
35
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:35:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote: Are you on PC or Mac? Please provide the following details and we'll look into it:
* Ship type * Hardware details * Graphics settings.
Same issue for me. Cannot spin with station environment loaded or not. Have also tried clearing the cache.
Ship type: Orca or Capsule Hardware Details: Dell Studio 1440, Windows Vista Home Premium 2007, Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU, 64-bit, NVIDIA GeForce 9400M G Graphics Settings: Minimum across the board. |
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CCP Bella Bee
C C P C C P Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:38:00 -
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Altarica wrote:Noertti wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Good job screwing up your attempt on redemption CCP, won't be investing in a plex anymore. I know this is probably no help to you but it may help CCP figure this out but I had this issue and have managed to solve it in a round about fashion. I have two Eve client installs (I've always found this easier). After the patch today one client would not spin ships on any accounts but the other install would spin ships on ALL accounts. What I did was copy all the files from my "documents and settings\username\application data\ccp\eve\client ONE install\settings" folder to my "documents and settings\username\application data\ccp\eve\client TWO install\settings" folder. So it looks like the non-spinny thing is caused by something within the character settings files.
So you copied the settings and that fixed the spinning, is that correct understanding? You don't happen to have a copy of the original settings do you? |
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
85
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:43:00 -
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Are station spinning interiors in an Incursion system supposed to be stained Yellow/Green?
Greenish Interiors in Incursion Systems Comparison
Just kinda curious... I actually like it. Thoughts?
NOSTRO AURUM NON EST AURUM VULGI |
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CCP Legion
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:43:00 -
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Did you download the client update that was prompted on starting the client after you had installed the patch?
CCP Legion | EVE Quality Assurance |
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Miliam Brinalle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:46:00 -
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I am running two clients on the same computer (each in a separated sym-linked folder so that they have different settings) and I am experiencing the same issue (ships don't spin when dragging the mouse) in only one of them, therefore it seems unlikely that the problem is hardware related. It also seems to happen independent of what ship I have active (tried with 4-5 different ships). I have also been trying changing the graphic settings to mimic those in the client that works to no effect.
I am using Windows 7 64 bits. |
Cpt Rev
Rudel Taktik Exodus.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:49:00 -
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CCP Legion wrote:Did you download the client update that was prompted on starting the client after you had installed the patch?
Yes. |
Endymi Typhirr
15
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:52:00 -
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Bug:
A sliver of a picture of station ship hanger from earlier this year: http://localhostr.com/files/OzAF0Eo/before.png
And today: http://localhostr.com/files/brFYPPt/after.png
I noticed this on Sisi, but figured it would have been caught before release. It appears that some fog/shaders are missing. What high looks like now is what medium or low used to look like. Check out The "Concord LP" Channel! |
Courtney Fish
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:54:00 -
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Since todays patch, everytime i dock my station services window gets dragged dwon and whenever i undock my overview has also been dragged down old bugged re-released for nostagic reasons ? |
Noertti
Lacco and The Gang Paisti Syndicate
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:58:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Noertti wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Good job screwing up your attempt on redemption CCP, won't be investing in a plex anymore. Are you on PC or Mac? Please provide the following details and we'll look into it: * Ship type * Hardware details * Graphics settings.
Too little too late. |
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CCP Bella Bee
C C P C C P Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.10.18 13:59:00 -
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Miliam Brinalle wrote:I am running two clients on the same computer (each in a separated sym-linked folder so that they have different settings) and I am experiencing the same issue (ships don't spin when dragging the mouse) in only one of them, therefore it seems unlikely that the problem is hardware related. It also seems to happen independent of what ship I have active (tried with 4-5 different ships). I have also been trying changing the graphic settings to mimic those in the client that works to no effect.
I am using Windows 7 64 bits. I would very much appreciate if you would file a bug report and include the settings from the two installations. Also mention my name in there so that it gets to me directly. Thanks :) |
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Shayla Sh'inlux
Eve Space Exploration Guild
2
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:00:00 -
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Oh so it isn't just me.... |
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Endymi Typhirr
15
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:01:00 -
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Noertti wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Noertti wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Good job screwing up your attempt on redemption CCP, won't be investing in a plex anymore. Are you on PC or Mac? Please provide the following details and we'll look into it: * Ship type * Hardware details * Graphics settings. Too little too late. That kind of attitude doesn't help at all, and why some things go unfixed.
Have you tried the standard stuff, like clearing the cache? Check out The "Concord LP" Channel! |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
77
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:03:00 -
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Overview and Station Services are resizing!
CCP, I warned you about this. Twice on the forums, and once in a bug report. I warned you about this and you told me you knew of the problem - how did it end up in a Tranquility release? I pretty much specifically said "this will be a deal-breaker for some players".
Why is this not fixed?
You're still not listening to your testers. You still don't care that we're putting in the hours. I am very disappointed in you. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor Media Consultant, Voyeur Studios |
Miliam Brinalle
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:08:00 -
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CCP Bella Bee wrote:I would very much appreciate if you would file a bug report and include the settings from the two installations. Also mention my name in there so that it gets to me directly. Thanks :)
Done.
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Trebor Daehdoow
Dirt Nap Squad Dirt Nap Squad.
1002
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:17:00 -
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CCP Bella Bee wrote:I would very much appreciate if you would file a bug report and include the settings from the two installations. Also mention my name in there so that it gets to me directly. Thanks :)
I also ran into this. I have filed a bug report with my settings file both pre-patch and after the problem was fixed by clearing all settings -- which works but is rather drastic, alas.
It is marked to your attention so you should get it within a week or two.
CCP Konflict also asked for this in another thread, btw.
Also, in the station I am in, Inherent Implants in Bittanshal, the camera is centered on a point below my ship, and I really think it ought to center on the ship itself -- you can get a view where you can't even see the ship.
CSM - because I have not yet plumbed the depths of my inherent masochism! CSM 6 Activities Summary | My CSM blog |
Maxwell Thomas
Totally Unrelated INC.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:24:00 -
[35] - Quote
PLEASE FIX THIS CCP it is SOOO annoying! |
VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:26:00 -
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Noertti wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Noertti wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Good job screwing up your attempt on redemption CCP, won't be investing in a plex anymore. Are you on PC or Mac? Please provide the following details and we'll look into it: * Ship type * Hardware details * Graphics settings. Too little too late.
Good. Good. Let the butthurt flow through you! -1 cancer and good riddance.
I am, however, having the same issue. Station enviroment loads just fine, ship moves up and down but no spinning allowed
Andreus Ixiris wrote: boooo hooo no one cares about my bug reports! booo hooo
and these tears fuel me. Cry more you, snobbish pr*ck.
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G'Shad
Weatherlight Fleetworks
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:34:00 -
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I have noticed that upon docking and undocking all of my pinned windows on the right side (and only along the right side) are being resized and shuffled around. It seems to be simular to what would happen if the window size/res was being changed with each dock/undock. |
Claire Voyant
8
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:34:00 -
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Windows XP. Client freezes at splash screen after patch and reboot. |
Altarica
The Pale Eye
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:36:00 -
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CCP Bella Bee wrote:Altarica wrote:Noertti wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Good job screwing up your attempt on redemption CCP, won't be investing in a plex anymore. I know this is probably no help to you but it may help CCP figure this out but I had this issue and have managed to solve it in a round about fashion. I have two Eve client installs (I've always found this easier). After the patch today one client would not spin ships on any accounts but the other install would spin ships on ALL accounts. What I did was copy all the files from my "documents and settings\username\application data\ccp\eve\client ONE install\settings" folder to my "documents and settings\username\application data\ccp\eve\client TWO install\settings" folder. So it looks like the non-spinny thing is caused by something within the character settings files. So you copied the settings and that fixed the spinning, is that correct understanding? You don't happen to have a copy of the original settings do you?
Yes that is correct, copied the settings files (core_char_xxxxx.dat / core_user_xxx.dat etc) from the spinning client to the non spinning client and got my ships to spin. Funny thing is that at some point I will have copied those across in the past so that both clients are set up the same.
And sorry no, I just did an overwrite when I copied across so I don't have the non working versions anymore |
Ripperljohn
Ore Mongers Indecisive Certainty
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:37:00 -
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Noertti wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Are you on PC or Mac? Please provide the following details and we'll look into it: * Ship type * Hardware details * Graphics settings.
Same issue,
* Ship type: Ibis * Hardware details: Core2Quad 6600; Radeon HD6770; 6GB RAM, Win7 64bit * Graphics settings.
All high, no AA, no resource chache, 1920x1080
No difference between "load station environments on/off"
I have a 2nd client folder on my PC, it works fine on that one.
Maybe an issue with the patcher? |
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Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
87
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:44:00 -
[41] - Quote
I did notice that the quality of the stations seems less hi-res than I remember them.
NOSTRO AURUM NON EST AURUM VULGI |
Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries Imperial Crimson Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 14:47:00 -
[42] - Quote
PC
Patch downloaded and installed no problem but client update will not download
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CCP Gangleri
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
17
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:03:00 -
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Andreus Ixiris wrote:Overview and Station Services are resizing! CCP, I warned you about this. Twice on the forums, and once in a bug report. I warned you about this and you told me you knew of the problem - how did it end up in a Tranquility release? I pretty much specifically said "this will be a deal-breaker for some players". Why is this not fixed? You're still not listening to your testers. You still don't care that we're putting in the hours. I am very disappointed in you.
We did in fact receive reports of this happening, as stated in the threads you linked above we were never able to get this to happen repeatedly. The reproduction steps we had at the time of release were: 1. Wipe setting and cache 2. Log into CQ 3. ESC menu -> Disable "Load station environment" 4. Undock 5. Dock 6. Station menu now aligned to bottom right
But the above steps only triggered the issue once, after that it never happened again until the above steps were repeated. This led me to judge this as not severe enough to stop us from releasing Incarna 1.1.2 which hopefully seems like a logical conclusion. Fast forward to today, soon after Tranquility opened up it became clear that this was affecting more users than we had expected. It now seems obvious that this should have been considered a more serious issue, we will do our best to investigate the cause and provide a workaround. From our initial results it looks like it should be easy to work around this by modifying user settings so we should not require a patch. CCP Gangleri | Quality Assurance | EVE Release Management Team |
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VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:06:00 -
[44] - Quote
ship... not... spinning...
Please halp! |
Depili
Blood Works Inc. Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:12:00 -
[45] - Quote
Ships not spinning: check Overview ****** each undock: check Autopilot deciding that warping to the next stargate is too much effort and just sitting there: check
Another quality patch from the team awesome ccp, you better redeem your act in about month before my sub runs out. |
VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:26:00 -
[46] - Quote
Depili wrote:Ships not spinning: check Overview ****** each undock: check Autopilot deciding that warping to the next stargate is too much effort and just sitting there: check
Another quality patch from the team awesome ccp, you better redeem your act in about month before my sub runs out.
Complaining about little bugs in a patch less then fours after its deployment: Check Threat to unsub for aforementioned minor complaint: Check Being cancer: Check
Looks like you've covered all the bases there, Dep.
Lets wait and see if you withdraw your statement after they fix the issue and thank an unsung CCP employee for digging through a mountain, just to make you happy.
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Eladaris
Excessum Industries Excessum Gaming
92
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:28:00 -
[47] - Quote
Frakir Shedimuthgur wrote:Platform: PC My overview windows change size and position randomly after dock / undock. Cleared cache, restarted client... nope still not working properly. Very annoying.
Well, I'm ever so glad people reported this bug during testing, so I don't have to worry about doing it. You guys just decided to ignore it again like every other bug report?
overview / station window borked crew checking in.
AP randomly deciding it doesn't want to work crew checking in. |
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CCP Bella Bee
C C P C C P Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:28:00 -
[48] - Quote
Thanks for submitting the bug reports regarding ship spinning, we're investigating the settings now. |
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Ripperljohn
Ore Mongers Indecisive Certainty
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:32:00 -
[49] - Quote
CCP Bella Bee wrote:Thanks for submitting the bug reports regarding ship spinning, we're investigating the settings now.
hope to spin soon |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
89
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Posted - 2011.10.18 15:55:00 -
[50] - Quote
All the spam bots in Jita stopped spamming. For 15 minutes.
Was this intended functionality? Can we implement this Anti-Spam feature in a more permanent fashion?
Quote:[14:58:43] JiZzLoObber > hell of alot better than The Door. Felt like I should be wearing "the Cone of Shame" , standing in 'time out' [14:58:55] JiZzLoObber > lol [14:59:01] Argh Prkl > I had to find a route back from WH pos just to spin my ship a bit after all this time [14:59:02] Raeloth Draenor > lol [14:59:21] JiZzLoObber > /emote spins ship vilently, throws up in consentric circles [14:59:22] Altaren Famas > well it hasnt been that long [14:59:41] Raeloth Draenor > Feels like an age though [14:59:48] Altaren Famas > guess thats true [15:00:08] Altaren Famas > btw, where did all the low life scammers go? [15:00:19] Raeloth Draenor > They're ship spinning atm [15:00:24] Argh Prkl > they're ship sp.. yeah. [15:00:27] JiZzLoObber > lol
Quote:[15:09:55] Shopping Girl > how did they remove the scammers? [15:10:16] JiZzLoObber > they didnt, they are just ship spinning like the rest of EvE =P [15:10:23] Shopping Girl > ? [15:10:34] JiZzLoObber > even the Bots are ship spinning today =P [15:10:35] Giannissa deSade > how doe sone... ship spin? [15:10:45] Aramatheia > spin your ship! [15:11:09] JiZzLoObber > Open the trade window and hand me your ships, I'll show you [15:11:12] awefull nightmare > /emote has a smile on his face and keeps on spinning his ship
Quote:[15:12:23] Aramatheia > i logged into a station where i have lots of ships too, so i just swap if i get bored /sigh [15:12:34] JiZzLoObber > I did that to some poor fool in Jita with PLEX =P [15:12:59] Aramatheia > what, why are you trying to scam, go spin your ship! lol NOSTRO AURUM NON EST AURUM VULGI |
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CCP Phantom
C C P C C P Alliance
44
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:11:00 -
[51] - Quote
Off topic posts removed. CCP Phantom - German Community Coordinator |
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awg1
Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:12:00 -
[52] - Quote
In addition to Windows not remembering positions, client doesn't remember zoom you select on ship while docked. It always resets when docked again. Please fix this also to remember zoom selected.
Tnx for getting rid of the door, but please tell your coders to remember about always saving windows positions. They tend to keep messing with these on every patch :) |
DHuncan
DHuncan Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:30:00 -
[53] - Quote
After three months not playing nor paying my two accounts is sad to come back and realize every single bug were reported back then are still not fixed. At least every one affecting me: icons, warp tunnel, windows doesn't close when clicking the x, apallingly slow loads, etc. Now also you created more, as my character sheet does not show all the head, picture, clone grade and all that info. I see you braging in facebook about how tough guys are you with feet on table and sun glasses as you ruin this game and turn it into a space version of the sims with your ridiculous vanity project. You look not tough to me but very gay. You may need me three more months of no playing nor paying and sure a bounch of other players doing the same.
You are bad workers and the customers are really desapointed and despite what you say you know this is true. |
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CCP Gangleri
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
18
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:30:00 -
[54] - Quote
Eladaris wrote:Frakir Shedimuthgur wrote:Platform: PC My overview windows change size and position randomly after dock / undock. Cleared cache, restarted client... nope still not working properly. Very annoying. Overview / station window borked crew checking in. AP randomly deciding it doesn't want to work crew checking in. In more positive / less bitchy news the return of hangar functionality is really really nice, and it certainly feels like there's a reduced load on the computer, so nice change there. Just annoying bugs as expected.
Can you provide some more data on the autopilot not working please. Do you have any special settings such as systems on your avoidance list or preferences for security settings? Is there a message displayed when you turn autopilot on, does it remain engaged or does it turn off?
Any info at all could be useful. CCP Gangleri | Quality Assurance | EVE Release Management Team |
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Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
81
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:35:00 -
[55] - Quote
OK, the issue with the overview resizing seems to go away with a cache reset, and the issue with the station services window resizing seems to go away with a full-scale settings reset. Still have some issues with duplicate ships and weird camera positioning but I can't reproduce them. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor Media Consultant, Voyeur Studios |
Lukaya
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 16:40:00 -
[56] - Quote
The overview/station services resizing issue persists for me even after resetting cache and the whole settings.
Also, even before the patch, my EVE client doesn't produce ANY sounds. Every other application produces sound except for EVE online.
This is driving me nuts since I've tried repairing eve client and deleting all settings/cache files to no avail. |
Grey Stormshadow
Starwreck Industries
287
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:00:00 -
[57] - Quote
My "station services"-window and "selected item"-window have moved healthy amount down quite often when entering station or entering space.
Other windows seem to stick.
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CCP Zymurgist
C C P C C P Alliance
227
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:18:00 -
[58] - Quote
Added two new known issues to the original post. One about the inability to ship spin and the other about T3 ships in the hanger making duplicate images. Both come with an easy work around. Zymurgist Community Representative CCP NA, EVE Online Contact Us at http://support.eveonline.com/pages/petitions/createpetition.aspx |
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CCP Legion
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:19:00 -
[59] - Quote
Lukaya wrote:The overview/station services resizing issue persists for me even after resetting cache and the whole settings.
Grey Stormshadow wrote:My "station services"-window and "selected item"-window have moved healthy amount down quite often when entering station or entering space.
Could you try resetting the window positions to default in the ESC menu, Reset Settings, and see if that helps with the overview/station services moving around when docking/undocking? Not a guaranteed fix, but this seems to do it for a lot of players.
CCP Legion | EVE Quality Assurance |
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Darklord Ky
Alliance inc
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:19:00 -
[60] - Quote
Patched ok ... when I dock ship into a station seems I am having a random issue of my mouse pointer becoming invisible. Happens with or without station environment on. on diffeent characters and isn't like that all the time some times it works some times it won't. computer is a newer computure
OS NameMicrosoft Windows 7 Home Premium Version6.1.7600 Build 7600 Other OS Description Not Available OS ManufacturerMicrosoft Corporation System NameMOM-HP System ManufacturerHewlett-Packard System ModelHPE-500f System Typex64-based PC ProcessorAMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1045T Processor, 2700 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 6 Logical Processor(s) BIOS Version/DateAmerican Megatrends Inc. 6.04, 9/7/2010 SMBIOS Version2.6 Windows DirectoryC:\Windows System DirectoryC:\Windows\system32 Boot Device\Device\HarddiskVolume1 LocaleUnited States Hardware Abstraction LayerVersion = "6.1.7600.16385" User NameMom-HP\Mom Time ZoneCentral Daylight Time Installed Physical Memory (RAM)8.00 GB Total Physical Memory8.00 GB Available Physical Memory6.01 GB Total Virtual Memory16.0 GB Available Virtual Memory13.7 GB Page File Space8.00 GB Page FileC:\pagefile.sys NameAMD RADEON HD 6450 PNP Device IDPCI\VEN_1002&DEV_6779&SUBSYS_90961B0A&REV_00\4&3527B13C&0&0010 Adapter TypeATI display adapter (0x6779), ATI Technologies Inc. compatible Adapter DescriptionAMD RADEON HD 6450 Adapter RAM512.00 MB (536,870,912 bytes) Installed Driversaticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx64.dll,aticfx32,aticfx32,aticfx32,atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll Driver Version8.784.1.0 INF Fileoem5.inf (ati2mtag_NI section) Color PlanesNot Available Color Table Entries4294967296 Resolution1920 x 1080 x 60 hertz Bits/Pixel32 Memory Address0xD0000000-0xDFFFFFFF Memory Address0xFE9E0000-0xFE9FFFFF I/O Port0x0000D000-0x0000D0FF IRQ ChannelIRQ 4294967292 I/O Port0x000003B0-0x000003BB I/O Port0x000003C0-0x000003DF Memory Address0xA0000-0xBFFFF Driverc:\windows\system32\drivers\atikmpag.sys (8.14.1.6150, 279.00 KB (285,696 bytes), 1/8/2011 5:29 PM)
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Spiro Tass
Torchwood Propulsion Labs Dark Phoenix Rising.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:20:00 -
[61] - Quote
Hi, my screen keeps on freezing, the only thing I can do is cntr-alt-del. It started happening after the patch, other internet programs work normally.
thanks
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Pinkamina Diane Pie
Broski Enterprises Elite Space Guild
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 17:50:00 -
[62] - Quote
I'm getting constant crashes, but only on one character. There don't seem to be any rhyme or reason to them, they happen when I'm in warp, or just sitting at a gate, or sometimes in station.
My other account works just fine, even with both clients open at the same time. |
Depili
Blood Works Inc. Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:07:00 -
[63] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote: Some player are unable to spin their ship. The workaround is to clear your cache, preferably manually.
Clearing the cache did nothing. |
Teclador
Stardust Heavy Industries
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:07:00 -
[64] - Quote
@CCP,
nice Ship spinning, but these bugs you can have back, so pls fix them:
Docked: 1. Station Service window 1.1 Pin bug 1.2 Resize bug
Undocked: 2. Selected Item and Overview window 2.1 Pin bug 2.2 Resize bug
And ok, now we have Ship spinning back, but why in the old ugly textures ? Nothing new ?
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Pinco Pez
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:11:00 -
[65] - Quote
Ship doesn't spin at all. it is just floating slowly up and down.
I've tryed several times to 1. change Load station setting 2. dock undock 3. change ship 4. clear cache
I'd prefere to don't clear settings if possible.
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intrinsi
QuanNet Evolved Gecko Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:18:00 -
[66] - Quote
Pinco Pez wrote:Ship doesn't spin at all. it is just floating slowly up and down.
I've tryed several times to 1. change Load station setting 2. dock undock 3. change ship 4. clear cache
I'd prefere to don't clear settings if possible.
I take it you have clicked the button top left in black that says "enter ships hanger" |
Pinco Pez
UK Corp RAZOR Alliance
2
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:21:00 -
[67] - Quote
intrinsi wrote:Pinco Pez wrote:Ship doesn't spin at all. it is just floating slowly up and down.
I've tryed several times to 1. change Load station setting 2. dock undock 3. change ship 4. clear cache
I'd prefere to don't clear settings if possible.
I take it you have clicked the button top left in black that says "enter ships hanger"
sure
never loaded CQ |
Vinaeus Stromjor
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:22:00 -
[68] - Quote
This is a bug in the actual delivery system of the patch. Whenever I go through the Eve Client to download a patch, it brings up the following dialog. Now, the thing is that the separate administrator user is disabled - the application just needs to request to "Run as administrator." When I download the file manually, right-click and select that option in Explorer, it runs without any problems. This is very annoying as it always requires me to download patches manually instead of using the in-game system.
I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (SP1).
Don't know if there is a separate bug reporting facility, but I couldn't find one easily so I figured I'd better post it here (I'd find it hard to believe that this hasn't been reported before).
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MisterNick
The Sagan Clan Pax Romana Alliance
4
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:23:00 -
[69] - Quote
The autopatch is utterly failing. On the client login screen it never gets past "Downloading Update", i.e. it never starts at all.
Now as I go to download the patch manually, i'm being told that it's going to take 8 hours to download the bloody thing. I doubt this is an issue on my end, as if my conection ran that slowly I wouldn't be able to play eve in the first place
EDIT: Since posting this the d/l has in fact stopped altogether, and I have to restart. Yayyyyyy \o/ "Fools! I'll show them all!"
What do you mean that one's already taken? |
Ripperljohn
Ore Mongers Indecisive Certainty
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:53:00 -
[70] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:
Some player are unable to spin their ship. The workaround is to clear your cache, preferably manually. [/list]
Did not work for me, ship is still humming up and down, yet no spinning.
E: also reinstalled the client, no effect. |
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j99323188
Helljumpers White Noise.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 18:57:00 -
[71] - Quote
MisterNick wrote:The autopatch is utterly failing. On the client login screen it never gets past "Downloading Update", i.e. it never starts at all. Now as I go to download the patch manually, i'm being told that it's going to take 8 hours to download the bloody thing. I doubt this is an issue on my end, as if my conection ran that slowly I wouldn't be able to play eve in the first place EDIT: Since posting this the d/l has in fact stopped altogether, and I have to restart. Yayyyyyy \o/
mine downloaded and ran the first time on restart it now prompts me again and hangs I have tried the manual download which downloads fine and patches without errors but on restarting the client it them says I have to download the same patch again and hangs :( i have tried the repair tools also which runs doesn't really say much but doesn't solve the issue.
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Vandiilo
Bubba Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:08:00 -
[72] - Quote
Overview/ station services resizing and repositioning. Cleared cache- nothing, reset window positions- worked for a couple of undocks, switched between clients and bug returns. Reset window positions again, still doesn't work. T3 bug the whole time with view focus being beneath the ship. Enabled CQ, docked and undocked. Disabled CQ, docked and undocked, no change. Random resizes for overview and station services. Very annoying. Gonna play something else today and hopefully it'll be fixed tomorrow.
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Nvidia GTX 460 AMD Phenom 2 Quad Core 8gb ram |
Tarryn Nightstorm
Hellstar Towing and Recovery
38
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:16:00 -
[73] - Quote
Noertti wrote:Everything else works fine and as advised, EXCEPT the ship doesn't spin.... Hangar loads up, the ships bobs up and down, light blink but she refuses to spin. Good job screwing up your attempt on redemption CCP, won't be investing in a plex anymore.
I had the same problem.
Esc-->Reset Settings. It did the job for me, at least.
Downside: All your window sizings/positions, chat-channels you'd joined, overview tabs/their settings + folders in People & Places go buh-bye, and have to be re-done....Pain in the arse, but the return of such a beloved EVE-icon, combined with its' infinitely better functionality and far less resource-hogging is more than worth it, imho. |
Florestan Bronstein
The Waterworks
112
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:17:00 -
[74] - Quote
experiencing the issue overview/station services window not remembering positions, too
Clearing cache and resetting window position settings through the ESC menu did not help.
Load character after patch for the first time in hangar mode; station services window is in the right place. Undock, overview is in the right place. Dock again, station services is resized. Undock, Overview is resized/moved vertically. ... issue keeps occurring across several docking/undocking maneuvers ... switch to CQ mode windows consistently stay in their places when docking/undocking |
Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries Imperial Crimson Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:31:00 -
[75] - Quote
Still can't download client update. On any of my clients.
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Vandiilo
Bubba Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:36:00 -
[76] - Quote
Vandiilo wrote:Overview/ station services resizing and repositioning. Cleared cache- nothing, reset window positions- worked for a couple of undocks, switched between clients and bug returns. Reset window positions again, still doesn't work. T3 bug the whole time with view focus being beneath the ship. Enabled CQ, docked and undocked. Disabled CQ, docked and undocked, no change. Random resizes for overview and station services. Very annoying. Gonna play something else today and hopefully it'll be fixed tomorrow.
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit Nvidia GTX 460 AMD Phenom 2 Quad Core 8gb ram
Update: Tried resetting ALL settings, everything reset back to default and the UI craziness continues. This is gamebreaking. I need my UI to perform reliably each and everytime I undock, if something doesn't show up where I expect it to be, I could lose a multi-billion isk ship. I'm done trouble shooting and debugging. |
Bloodpetal
Mimidae Risk Solutions
94
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:39:00 -
[77] - Quote
Are Station Interiors supposed to be Incursion Green when there's an Incursion in system?
Picture below...
Greenish Interiors in Incursion Systems Comparison
NOSTRO AURUM NON EST AURUM VULGI |
Djavo
Privateers Privateer Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:40:00 -
[78] - Quote
Two accounts and no ship spinning, it was awesome until I realised there was no spin spin :(
Docked in a Caldari and Amarr station, I'm running Windows 7 64Bit on a Dell XPS Laptop and I've cleared the cache on both accounts.
Everything else is fine, can't see this button that people keep going on about! |
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CCP Gangleri
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
19
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Posted - 2011.10.18 19:48:00 -
[79] - Quote
Ratklif wrote:Still can't download client update. On any of my clients.
Please file bug report as per the instructions here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reporting
We really need logs to be able to determine what causes this issue for you since we have not been able to reproduce it internally. Please include a link to this forum post in the report. CCP Gangleri | Quality Assurance | EVE Release Management Team |
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Frakir Shedimuthgur
Vacation Spot
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:06:00 -
[80] - Quote
CCP Legion wrote:Lukaya wrote:The overview/station services resizing issue persists for me even after resetting cache and the whole settings.
Grey Stormshadow wrote:My "station services"-window and "selected item"-window have moved healthy amount down quite often when entering station or entering space.
Could you try resetting the window positions to default in the ESC menu, Reset Settings, and see if that helps with the overview/station services moving around when docking/undocking? Not a guaranteed fix, but this seems to do it for a lot of players.
I would like a solution that does not involve a few hours of work to redo all my overview on all my accounts. I would also really like seeing in the next patch notes something that says 'We finally fixed the window manager so that all windows will remember settings forever and ever and never do weird stuff again'. I am a developer myself and while I can understand problems with shaders, renderers or other things like that, I do believe that window managers are not rocket science.
tl;dr: CCP, please fix the window manager so we don't get our overview borked every couple of major patches. |
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Toshiko Kin
Material Reclamation Services
5
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:14:00 -
[81] - Quote
After losing the bookmarks/folders when resetting the 'settings', it seems that copying the core_char_[char number].dat file back in to settings, from the backup, restored the bookmarks without killing the spinning. The core_user_XXXX.dat file seems to be the one hosing the spinning.
At least for me.
(On a side note, .NET doesn't have a built-in htmlentities function to kill html in code? '<' is not always html.) |
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CCP Gangleri
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
19
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:20:00 -
[82] - Quote
Frakir Shedimuthgur wrote:CCP Legion wrote:Lukaya wrote:The overview/station services resizing issue persists for me even after resetting cache and the whole settings.
Grey Stormshadow wrote:My "station services"-window and "selected item"-window have moved healthy amount down quite often when entering station or entering space.
Could you try resetting the window positions to default in the ESC menu, Reset Settings, and see if that helps with the overview/station services moving around when docking/undocking? Not a guaranteed fix, but this seems to do it for a lot of players. I would like a solution that does not involve a few hours of work to redo all my overview on all my accounts. I would also really like seeing in the next patch notes something that says 'We finally fixed the window manager so that all windows will remember settings forever and ever and never do weird stuff again'. I am a developer myself and while I can understand problems with shaders, renderers or other things like that, I do believe that window managers are not rocket science. tl;dr: CCP, please fix the window manager so we don't get our overview borked every couple of major patches.
Resetting windows to default positions doesn't reset your overview settings, what CCP Legion is referring to is the 'Reset settings' tab in the ESC menu, in that tab there are options for resetting parts of the settings as well as the entire cache. While re-doing the various settings that this affects is a tedious task it is not as onerous as redoing all overview settings.
Regardless of the above I'd recommend exporting and backing up your overview settings just in case of cache corruption. CCP Gangleri | Quality Assurance | EVE Release Management Team |
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Vahligmarr
Tribal Core
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:32:00 -
[83] - Quote
i tried out ship spinning and it worked fine.
now i activated load station environment via esc menu to go back to my CQ left station and redocked, but it still loads ship spinning. even restart of client did not help. did i missed something?
can't go back to my quarters :( |
WheatGrass
3
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:33:00 -
[84] - Quote
1. The client patch is not downloading. I tried allowing it to do so about half a dozen times without success. 2. Wrecks and drones are not appearing in space -with one exception. The exception being that if a drone in the dones window is selected, it will appear in space. 3. Repair.exe worked. Unfortunately, it was required.
The ship spinning really shows off the work of CCP artists. I didn't realize how cool it was until you turned it back on.
-Still trying to remember how to turn captains quarters back on. |
Frakir Shedimuthgur
Vacation Spot
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:34:00 -
[85] - Quote
CCP Gangleri wrote:[quote=Frakir Shedimuthgur]
Resetting windows to default positions doesn't reset your overview settings, what CCP Legion is referring to is the 'Reset settings' tab in the ESC menu, in that tab there are options for resetting parts of the settings as well as the entire cache. While re-doing the various settings that this affects is a tedious task it is not as onerous as redoing all overview settings.
Regardless of the above I'd recommend exporting and backing up your overview settings just in case of cache corruption.
Wrong choice of words. By overview I meant position of every window in my UI. Indeed, not as tedious as the overview settings, but not exactly what I would like to do instead of, you know... playing Eve. |
Frakir Shedimuthgur
Vacation Spot
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:36:00 -
[86] - Quote
Vahligmarr wrote:i tried out ship spinning and it worked fine.
now i activated load station environment via esc menu to go back to my CQ left station and redocked, but it still loads ship spinning. even restart of client did not help. did i missed something?
can't go back to my quarters :(
There's a button in the upper left corner that transports you to your quarters.
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CCP Orion
C C P C C P Alliance
32
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:37:00 -
[87] - Quote
Jokerface666 wrote:1. no leave ship button 2. no go to hangar button 3. Unalbe to leave the ship so i end up in my pod
Ship: Loki (Immobility Drives, Adaptive Aug, Power core multi, Turret concurrence, Chassis Opt) Station: Amarr OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Graphix: Nvidia Geforce GTX590
Cache cleared, already.
Could you send us a screenshot, in a bug report? That would be great help. Anyone else seeing this problem?
Cheers! |
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lee dickens dickens
ABYSMAL PDODUCTIONS
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:37:00 -
[88] - Quote
platform = mac
I have a problem since the downtime of that patch ... i can not log in , when i try to login is come up with ( incompatable protacal ) this has been happing since last night new patch some one please help me |
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CCP Orion
C C P C C P Alliance
32
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:41:00 -
[89] - Quote
lee dickens dickens wrote:platform = mac
I have a problem since the downtime of that patch ... i can not log in , when i try to login is come up with ( incompatable protacal ) this has been happing since last night new patch some one please help me
Incompatible protocol means that your client is not running CarbonIO, the new and improved network layer that was deployen today client side. What build number do you see when you start up the client?
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Vahligmarr
Tribal Core
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 20:48:00 -
[90] - Quote
Frakir Shedimuthgur wrote:Vahligmarr wrote:i tried out ship spinning and it worked fine.
now i activated load station environment via esc menu to go back to my CQ left station and redocked, but it still loads ship spinning. even restart of client did not help. did i missed something?
can't go back to my quarters :( There's a button in the upper left corner that transports you to your quarters.
thx a lot. sadly the button was behind my item/ship window
would be better if the button was placed on the left quick menu bar.
(btw... performance gain in CQ is quite significant. playing on asus g73 laptop. thanks ccp...good work here) |
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DragonHelm III
Order of Lost Malice
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:09:00 -
[91] - Quote
Frakir Shedimuthgur wrote:Platform: PC My overview windows change size and position randomly after dock / undock. Cleared cache, restarted client... nope still not working properly. Very annoying.
What she says :) |
Zilero
Unknown Soldiers Atlas.
5
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:16:00 -
[92] - Quote
There is now no way to disable GPU usage when docked.
Pre-CQ, you could get a static image of your ship Post-CQ, you could get a static image of a door. Post Incarna 1.1.2 there is no longer a static image available.
While ship spinning is fun and stuff, the strain having multiple clients docked are now.. well, annoying.
Fix please
-zil |
Orisa Medeem
Hedion University Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:19:00 -
[93] - Quote
DragonHelm III wrote:Frakir Shedimuthgur wrote:Platform: PC My overview windows change size and position randomly after dock / undock. Cleared cache, restarted client... nope still not working properly. Very annoying. What she says :)
Happening to me aswell, although it did not happen when I tried it on sisi last weekend. It seems that the client is trying to render the station service window before hiding the selected item, overview and drones windows. |
Zoe Alarhun
The Proactive Reappropriation Corporation
29
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:26:00 -
[94] - Quote
If I turn on ship spinning and undock my overview resets to it's default position in top right. If I redock my hanger suddenly goes down to bottom right. Tried clearing cache etc. Way around it is to carry on using CQ for the time being. Just thought you guys should know.
Win 7 Home premium 64Bit Core i5 4GB Ram GTS250 Graphics
Good luck with the fixes, I like the patch in all. |
lee dickens dickens
ABYSMAL PDODUCTIONS
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 21:58:00 -
[95] - Quote
CCP Orion wrote:lee dickens dickens wrote:platform = mac
I have a problem since the downtime of that patch ... i can not log in , when i try to login is come up with ( incompatable protacal ) this has been happing since last night new patch some one please help me Incompatible protocol means that your client is not running CarbonIO, the new and improved network layer that was deployed today client side. What build number do you see when you start up the client?
i think the number is .... version 7.11.298025 (292761) |
Jokath
LazyBoyz Band of Recreational Flyers Order Of The Unforgiving
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:06:00 -
[96] - Quote
I am unable to download the client update. The screen simply never progresses, and of course I can't log in without applying the update. I have not experienced this issue before. I'm also unaware of any manual download for this new update.
PC version 7.11.304168 Windows XP 64 bit core i7 |
Sturmwolke
28
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:18:00 -
[97] - Quote
CCP Phantom wrote:
Some players may experience their station services and overview windows shrinking to minimum size when they dock or undock.
Possible workaround :
1) Unpin the station services window and drag it somewhere or just leave it in the midddle of the screen 2) Undock fix your overview as per normal. 3) Dock back and undock to confirm the OV no longer resets. 4) Leave the station services window unpinned & floating until CCP finds a permanent fix.
Based from what I'm seeing, docking up and windows stack collision is the problem. The OV does not disappear as per normal (it takes several seconds longer) as the system loads the station env/background. Both windows collides concurrently, both gets displaced.
P.S You can also see similar effect with pinned cargo window of the same exact size, in the same exact location - one will get slightly displaced if you open them up concurrently.
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Nashuar Attor
THE UMBRELLA C0RPORATI0N
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:29:00 -
[98] - Quote
My problem appears to be the same as this. I reinstalled and it managed to update last night but still couldn't connected as it said in status: Incompatible (protocol), so couldn't connect despite the update.
This morning it is doing exactly what is posted below again.
Not Happy.
MODVATTER wrote:Client: Mac Issue: When download has finished (In Client) the patcher runs and a status pops up: 'Verifying...ogram Files/CCP/EVE/script/complied.code' The patcher hangs and then pops up: 'Some of the files have been modified!' 'Please re-install' Log (Partial): Examining File : /Contents/MacOS/cider -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Czech.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Czech.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Czech.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Danish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Danish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Danish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Dutch.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Dutch.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Dutch.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/es-419.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/es-419.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/es-419.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Finnish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Finnish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Finnish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/French.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/French.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/French.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/German.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/German.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/German.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Greek.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Greek.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Greek.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Hungarian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Hungarian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Hungarian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Italian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Italian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Italian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Norwegian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Norwegian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Norwegian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Polish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Polish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Polish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Portuguese.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Portuguese.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Portuguese.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/pt_BR.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/pt_BR.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/pt_BR.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Russian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Russian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Russian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Spanish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Spanish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Spanish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Swedish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Swedish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Swedish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/tgApplyPatch.app/Contents/Info.plist -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/tgApplyPatch.app/Contents/Frameworks/tgUpdate.framework/tgUpdate -> OK Seems to only be the language files that are affected. Maybe this is a XSlimmer issue, where by a lot of people slim their systems by removing unnecessary languages? On a side note, I have never had any issues with an update before. Update: Also tried grabbing the direct patch from http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp unfortunately still the same issue.
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CCP Orion
C C P C C P Alliance
32
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Posted - 2011.10.18 22:52:00 -
[99] - Quote
lee dickens dickens wrote:CCP Orion wrote:lee dickens dickens wrote:platform = mac
I have a problem since the downtime of that patch ... i can not log in , when i try to login is come up with ( incompatable protacal ) this has been happing since last night new patch some one please help me Incompatible protocol means that your client is not running CarbonIO, the new and improved network layer that was deployed today client side. What build number do you see when you start up the client? i think the number is .... version 7.11.298025 (292761)
It's strange that the client, doesn't autopatch we'll look into it. Meanwhile you can just manually patch from http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp either by downloading the patch from 292761 or running the generic patcher.
Cheers!
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Nashuar Attor
THE UMBRELLA C0RPORATI0N
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 23:29:00 -
[100] - Quote
Tried to manually update by selecting what was said to be the latest patch, that downloaded but made no difference at all. See earlier post.
Tried to use the generic patcher, which downloaded, even told me all was up to date, but when I go to log in, nothing, absolutely nothing has been resolved. Once again, see earlier post.
No of the suggestions so far posted have done anything. They seem to work but when you go to log in it's just the same old.
See earlier post!! |
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Eco 2
Hello Kitty Space Marines Ev0ke
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 23:53:00 -
[101] - Quote
Docket whith my T3 (Tengu) on 0.0 Station. Was unable to exit the ship to do a clone jump. Session timer was over. Used the menue "leave ship" but nothing happents.
Tested it twice (undock/redock; client relog) still the same problem. Because i only have the tengu there i cant switch to an other ship. So i had to get of my Tengu at ouer POS Ship mentance array. |
nardaq
Orion Expeditions
0
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Posted - 2011.10.18 23:59:00 -
[102] - Quote
Where is my "disable" station environment aka freeze the ship. (aka COMPLETE DISABLE)
CCP can i haz 0 load on my GPU again while doing nothing in teh stationz? |
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CCP Orion
C C P C C P Alliance
32
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Posted - 2011.10.19 00:05:00 -
[103] - Quote
Nashuar Attor wrote:Tried to manually update by selecting what was said to be the latest patch, that downloaded but made no difference at all. See earlier post.
Tried to use the generic patcher, which downloaded, even told me all was up to date, but when I go to log in, nothing, absolutely nothing has been resolved. Once again, see earlier post.
No of the suggestions so far posted have done anything. They seem to work but when you go to log in it's just the same old.
See earlier post!!
I'll check with Transgaming if they know of problems with XSlimmer and EVE. It might be worthwhile to try disabling XSlimmer, if that's possible, and give it another shot.
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Nundinae Meretricis
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 00:27:00 -
[104] - Quote
I downloaded the new patch, no problem. started game and got this message.
A client update is available and will now be installed.
- Incarna 1.1.2 Client Update #1
Click here for details about this update.
Press 'OK' to continue.
Pressed 'OK' and nothing happened. waited quite awhile and nothing. Uninstalled Eve and did the manual download and install. comes to log in, get above message and nothing.
Tried repair tool, back to above message. tried generic loader and notta.
It will not progress past this message at log in.
Windows XP pro X64 core I-7
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VaL Iscariot
The Concilium Enterprises Spectrum Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 00:33:00 -
[105] - Quote
Eco 2 wrote:Docket whith my T3 (Tengu) on 0.0 Station. Was unable to exit the ship to do a clone jump. Session timer was over. Used the menue "leave ship" but nothing happents.
Tested it twice (undock/redock; client relog) still the same problem. Because i only have the tengu there i cant switch to an other ship. So i had to get of my Tengu at ouer POS Ship mentance array.
Same ship, same problem. |
Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries Imperial Crimson Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 00:36:00 -
[106] - Quote
CCP Gangleri wrote:Ratklif wrote:Still can't download client update. On any of my clients.
Please file bug report as per the instructions here: http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Bug_reportingWe really need logs to be able to determine what causes this issue for you since we have not been able to reproduce it internally. Please include a link to this forum post in the report.
Bug report sent
Sorry forgot to include your post link with it. |
Mongo Travler
Royal Order of Security Specialists Support
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 01:21:00 -
[107] - Quote
With the most recent client patch my overview and station services windows change shape/location on my monitor everytime I dock or undock.
It happens on both my characters - any ideas on how to fix this? |
Quindaster
Infernal laboratory Blind Octopus
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 01:53:00 -
[108] - Quote
Ships doesn't spin on any account. Dock - undock - load unload station env doesnt help. Cash cleared - doesnt help. After cash clear if I change ships, I have 2 ship in dock in same time.
Overview windows after undock change position and size every time. Same if dock - station service window change size and position. If you split windows from each other - they doesn't change position after undock.
Only one good thing in this patch - looks like game run a little bit faster, I mean more optimized engine. |
Nicholai Thomasovich
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 02:02:00 -
[109] - Quote
One way to attempt fixing the window sizing\position issue is to hit the "Reset to default window positions" button under "Reset Settings" from the Escape menu. |
yrag eel
Drama Llamas
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 02:19:00 -
[110] - Quote
MODVATTER wrote:Client: Mac Issue: When download has finished (In Client) the patcher runs and a status pops up: 'Verifying...ogram Files/CCP/EVE/script/complied.code' The patcher hangs and then pops up: 'Some of the files have been modified!' 'Please re-install' Log (Partial): Examining File : /Contents/MacOS/cider -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Czech.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Czech.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Czech.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Danish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Danish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Danish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Dutch.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Dutch.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Dutch.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/English.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/es-419.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/es-419.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/es-419.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Finnish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Finnish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Finnish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/French.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/French.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/French.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/German.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/German.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/German.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Greek.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Greek.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Greek.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Hungarian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Hungarian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Hungarian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Italian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Italian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Italian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Norwegian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Norwegian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Norwegian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Polish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Polish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Polish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Portuguese.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Portuguese.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Portuguese.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/pt_BR.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/pt_BR.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/pt_BR.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Russian.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Russian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Russian.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Spanish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Spanish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Spanish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Swedish.lproj/Localizable.strings -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Swedish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/designable.nib -> SHA1 Error Examining File : /Contents/Resources/Swedish.lproj/MainMenu.nib/keyedobjects.nib -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/tgApplyPatch.app/Contents/Info.plist -> OK Examining File : /Contents/Resources/tgApplyPatch.app/Contents/Frameworks/tgUpdate.framework/tgUpdate -> OK Seems to only be the language files that are affected. Maybe this is a XSlimmer issue, where by a lot of people slim their systems by removing unnecessary languages? On a side note, I have never had any issues with an update before. Update: Also tried grabbing the direct patch from http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp unfortunately still the same issue.
Same problem here. Mac running 10.5.8. Had previously removed many "unnecessary" languages on my Mac as well.
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Saphyrie
Nefantar Expeditionary Force N E M E S I S
8
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Posted - 2011.10.19 02:23:00 -
[111] - Quote
Hey CCP! Thank you so much for bringing ship spinning back! I sorely missed this beloved feature of this game.
Now that I have thanked you for a job well done, I need to scream bloody hell about your complete lack of QA. The window positions+sizes of overview and station services frickin reset everytime I dock and undock.. I noticed this within 5 minutes of playing. Do you have any idea how much of a royal pain it is to have to fix these windows EVERYTIME I DOCK/UNDOCK?!?!?! HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT? DID YOU EVEN BOTHER TO TEST IT AT ALL?
I thought the letter from your CEO was a sign of turning over a new leaf but.. ffs... if I was paying for this, I'd probably unsubscribe for complete lack of QA. Get a clue, test your stuff, I'm sick of testing it for you.
Sorry to rant so viciously, but COME ON, how could you have possibly missed that bug? I'm severely disappointed in you guys. |
lee dickens dickens
ABYSMAL PDODUCTIONS
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 02:59:00 -
[112] - Quote
It's strange that the client, doesn't autopatch we'll look into it. Meanwhile you can just manually patch from http://www.eveonline.com/patches/patches.asp either by downloading the patch from 292761 or running the generic patcher.
Cheers! [/quote]
thx it working thank you , I hope that other person with the same sor-of problem get it fixed |
Crasniya
Dragon's Legion of New Eden
6
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Posted - 2011.10.19 03:19:00 -
[113] - Quote
My GTX 560 Ti (about $290) is at 40% in ship spinning, and floats around 90% in Incarna (with admittedly very high settings). I'm not rolling out the whaaaambulance, but I wanted to confirm I noted a large performance hit in 1.1.2. |
electrostatus
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
3
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Posted - 2011.10.19 03:59:00 -
[114] - Quote
I can't spin my ship. I can see it floating there, and its even slowly rocking back and forth, but I can't rotate the camera around it. I've undocked, redocked, clicked load station environment, redocked, entered captain's quarters, left the quarters, redocked, unchecked and rechecked the load station environment and I still can't move the camera.
Other issues: overview refuses to be resized. I can't get it thinner than this, and that's too fat. overview jumps around, I found it at the bottom of the screen instead of where at the top where it should be upon undocking. the station information window keeps resizing, its slightly thinner than it should be and shorter than it should be, and doesn't remember resizing. the station information window is missing the station information and owner's icon.
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Rabit Minotaur
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 04:08:00 -
[115] - Quote
Thanks for bringing back ship spinning.... In the future, PLEASE TEST YOUR PATCHES BEFORE YOU DEPLOY THEM! I would think that's common sense.. but i guess common sense isn't common.
SAME ISSUE as a lot of other people. EVERYTIME you dock/undock, the services windows, overview, selected item and scanner windows reset. |
zerokmatrix
Federation Mission Acedemy
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 04:40:00 -
[116] - Quote
I have 3 accounts, ship spinning works on 2 but not on 1, all the setting are exactly the same on all 3 accounts.
I have tried the following Logging off and on again Loading and unloading station enviroments Docking and undocking Switching ships Clearing the cache Clearing all settings
nothing works
and I have the same overview / station services resizing problems everyone else seems to be having |
DHuncan
DHuncan Corp
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 04:45:00 -
[117] - Quote
Saphyrie wrote:Hey CCP! Thank you so much for bringing ship spinning back! I sorely missed this beloved feature of this game.
Now that I have thanked you for a job well done, I need to scream bloody hell about your complete lack of QA. The window positions+sizes of overview and station services frickin reset everytime I dock and undock.. I noticed this within 5 minutes of playing. Do you have any idea how much of a royal pain it is to have to fix these windows EVERYTIME I DOCK/UNDOCK?!?!?! HOW COULD YOU MISS THAT? DID YOU EVEN BOTHER TO TEST IT AT ALL?
I thought the letter from your CEO was a sign of turning over a new leaf but.. ffs... if I was paying for this, I'd probably unsubscribe for complete lack of QA. Get a clue, test your stuff, I'm sick of testing it for you.
Sorry to rant so viciously, but COME ON, how could you have possibly missed that bug? I'm severely disappointed in you guys.
Good heavens, at least someone with balls, I thought I was the only one did not suck it up after doing their job and pay.
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Saphyrie
Nefantar Expeditionary Force N E M E S I S
8
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Posted - 2011.10.19 05:42:00 -
[118] - Quote
Oh one other thing, CCP.
Couple weeks ago on SiSi, I checked out the revisions that added ship spinning, and it had a nice icon down by the undock button, basically three arrows, cyan in color pointing the other way, to return to CQ.
Now you got a really cheezy black button that just say 'enter captain's quarters.' This is really shoddy and completely unprofessional. It really looks like you guys rushed this out. PLEASE STOP RUSHING THINGS OUT. You're doing more harm than good. Cut it out. What you had on SiSi looked good and you frickin abandoned it for this cheeze? WTH? Are you guys ACTIVELY trying to drive players away?
Your CEO said in the letter you'd stop ignoring us and start listening to us. LISTEN! STOP RUSHING! JUST STOP IT! Have you learned NOTHING from Incarna being rushed out? This patch has made the game LESS PLAYABLE, LESS ENJOYABLE, LESS FUN because you blew it, you didn't test, you released it with so obvious a bug it just makes one wonder wtf you are doing.
BTW, I said I don't pay for this game, this is true, I just buy PLEX with ISK... someone else pays for me. But you guys really did not earn your paychecks with this patch. I think you should take a pay penalty, maybe that'll encourage your devs to stop rushing out garbage.
If I did pay, I'd unsubscribe immediately just to send a message that shoddy workmanship should not be tolerated, and re-sub when you fix it. As it is, the frustration factor caused by your rushed out trash has me basically not playing. |
Cynika
Unseen Academy The Unseen Company
4
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Posted - 2011.10.19 07:12:00 -
[119] - Quote
Workaround for station services and overview windows not keeping position.
1.Dock, enter hangar view, go to esc menu, general settings tab, change windows snap option to "Don't snap" 2. Grab the station services window and move it a little bit away from screen edges (it should not stick to any side od screen) 3. Enter esc menu again and turn the snap on to your desired value. 4. Undock. If the ov windows were relocated previously put them in the position you want them to be. 5. Dock. Station services window should not be relocated from the posision you put it in the last time. 6. Undock. Same as above - ov should not be relocated.
Checked on 5 computers with different hardware/software configuration. Worked on all of them. It seams the client thinks the ov windows and station services window are on top of each other and thus client relocates them during session change to make you see both. It would be the same if you snap a market window to the same screen edges you have ov snaped to and undock. |
Fred Munro
Silicis Luguolo
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 08:06:00 -
[120] - Quote
I'm not sure if this is new or not, but I've noticed something odd with Agent conversations...
If I have an agent conversation open, pin it, collapse it to title bar, then close it (close button or log off) when I start conversation with the same agent again, (after returning or logging back on) the now collapsed pinned title bar agent conversation window takes approximately 20-30 seconds for me to be able to restore it so I can see the new offer.
Seems a little odd to have the spinning circle for so long, for an offer that is already in my journal or just showing the usual "unless your here for a job get out of my sight" dialog...
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Aineko Macx
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
8
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Posted - 2011.10.19 08:45:00 -
[121] - Quote
- Position and size of the overview and the station services window keeps changing when undocking/docking. - In some of the my characters, activated modules that should display the cycling graphic around the module don't, just pulsating instead (this bug has been around for a couple of patches). |
Shadow Senya
FireStar Inc Curatores Veritatis Alliance
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 08:59:00 -
[122] - Quote
Workaround for 'Jumping windows' when dock/undock - disable 'Snap window' option in General settings ('Window Snap Distance' = 'Dont Snap')
Helped me and few other ppl already. |
Smoking Blunts
Zebra Corp BricK sQuAD.
109
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Posted - 2011.10.19 10:12:00 -
[123] - Quote
my ship spins fine. but teh camera focal point is under my ship, so when i zoom in i see the floor. reloging, swapping ships, undocking docking dont fix it. no i am not clearing my cache. all of the other 6 installs i have work fine CCP-áare full of words and no action. We watch what they do and its nothing but false statements and lies.
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CCP Orion
C C P C C P Alliance
32
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Posted - 2011.10.19 11:29:00 -
[124] - Quote
Jokath wrote:I am unable to download the client update. The screen simply never progresses, and of course I can't log in without applying the update. I have not experienced this issue before. I'm also unaware of any manual download for this new update.
PC version 7.11.304168 Windows XP 64 bit core i7
Could you file a bug report with as much info as you can provide, logserver log would be very helpful in this case.
Thanks |
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CCP Gangleri
CCP Engineering Corp CCP Engineering Alliance
19
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Posted - 2011.10.19 11:45:00 -
[125] - Quote
yrag eel wrote:
Same problem here. Mac running 10.5.8. Had previously removed many "unnecessary" languages on my Mac as well.
Please try the generic patch, it acts as a repair tool in cases where the client has been modified: http://content.eveonline.com//mac/evepremiumpatch304168-mac.tgz
Normal patches do not handle these edge cases since it is more efficient to build them directly from a known good version to the new one. Generic patches take longer to run and download more data than would be necessary for a direct patch. CCP Gangleri | Quality Assurance | EVE Release Management Team |
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Zilero
Unknown Soldiers Atlas.
5
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Posted - 2011.10.19 11:59:00 -
[126] - Quote
nardaq wrote:Where is my "disable" station environment aka freeze the ship. (aka COMPLETE DISABLE)
CCP can i haz 0 load on my GPU again while doing nothing in teh stationz?
^^ THIS!
What is the point of GPU load when I'm doing nothing but chatting / using the market etc.
Seriously!
-zil |
Saphyrie
Nefantar Expeditionary Force N E M E S I S
8
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Posted - 2011.10.19 13:09:00 -
[127] - Quote
Zilero wrote:nardaq wrote:Where is my "disable" station environment aka freeze the ship. (aka COMPLETE DISABLE)
CCP can i haz 0 load on my GPU again while doing nothing in teh stationz? ^^ THIS! What is the point of GPU load when I'm doing nothing but chatting / using the market etc. Seriously! -zil CCP is in cahoots with your power company. More GPU load means more power consumption. |
Coolmer
Druzba od vjesala
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 13:47:00 -
[128] - Quote
When will you fix that annoying bug with position with overview ... this is very ridiculous that you have two test servers and still can deploy stupid bugs and we must wait ages for fix. |
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CCP Bella Bee
C C P C C P Alliance
1
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Posted - 2011.10.19 14:09:00 -
[129] - Quote
We are working on a fix for the overview issue which we are aiming to get out in the coming days. In the meantime there are workarounds outlined in this thread that have worked for some people. And believe me, we're just as frustrated as you are that we didn't catch this in testing. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time you dock or undock, but it's the nature of these things that sometimes they only manifest under conditions that don't occur in our test environment.. |
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jenny threesteps
Perkone Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 16:00:00 -
[130] - Quote
CCP Bella Bee wrote:Daesis Wrack wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:
- Some players may experience their station services and overview windows shrinking to minimum size when they dock or undock.
Is this the sort of thing you'll have a client patch for tomorrow, or is this one gonna linger around for another couple expansions? Cause this is affecting a lot of people and is basically game-breaking. We are treating this as a high priority issue. And to address the QA question, unfortunately it's one of those issues that only happen under certain circumstances (the details of which we haven't determined yet but part of it is the timing of sequence of events) which didn't occur in our test environment. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time, these are really the most annoying bugs.
well obvious its in ur latest update.... |
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COMM4NDER
Umbrella Holding Inc Umbrella Chemical Inc
18
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Posted - 2011.10.19 16:31:00 -
[131] - Quote
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2137335/eveonline/spinning%21.png
Ship spinning, Mother protecting its young offspring. Sure cute but not intentional for sure :) Tag shortcuts - Make an FC enjoy his position more! |
Dirk Decibel
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
5
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Posted - 2011.10.19 17:21:00 -
[132] - Quote
CCP Bella Bee wrote:We are working on a fix for the overview issue which we are aiming to get out in the coming days. In the meantime there are workarounds outlined in this thread that have worked for some people. And believe me, we're just as frustrated as you are that we didn't catch this in testing. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time you dock or undock, but it's the nature of these things that sometimes they only manifest under conditions that don't occur in our test environment.. While we all understand no software is ever going to be perfect, these windows/overview bugs seem to happen EVERY SINGLE TIME a major patch is released. And they hardly ever get fixed to full satisfaction. It has gotten to a point that windows jumping all over the place, not remembering their size and issues like that are not even bugs anymore but just normal client behavior for me, until I realize just how ******** that really is.... |
Sarah Nalelmir
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1
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Posted - 2011.10.19 19:34:00 -
[133] - Quote
Im sure this has been mentioned but
Since the new 1.1.2 my windows will not remain pinned in the correct location. I run on dual monitors and now it seems when i go between space, ship spin mode and CQ mode my windows jump around the place and unsize themselves after being pinned in specific places. This was not an issue with 1.1.1
Also why in ship spin mode is there no ambient background noise ? in CQ mode when you walk up to the platform you hear all the background noise but ship spin is totally dead silent.
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zerokmatrix
Federation Mission Acedemy
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 20:05:00 -
[134] - Quote
I have already posted that I have 3 accounts and on 1 of the 3, ship spinning is not working.
I have noticed that on the same account that is not spinning ships, it is also not loading any player pictures.
Also when I try to spin the ship on the defective account, I have noticed when I left click to start the spin, the cursor changes to the "movement" cursor as expected, but when I move the mouse in any direction the cursor reverts back to the "normal" cursor. It is as if the ship spin is being immediately canceled when the mouse is moved. |
Zilero
Unknown Soldiers Atlas.
5
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:28:00 -
[135] - Quote
Sarah Nalelmir wrote:
Also why in ship spin mode is there no ambient background noise ? in CQ mode when you walk up to the platform you hear all the background noise but ship spin is totally dead silent.
Oh god, please don't make CCP give us station noise back again :S, that noise was so annoying it was.... well, I lack words.
-zil
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Woo Mi
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 21:51:00 -
[136] - Quote
Things work ok (linux/wine) butI now get the following errors in my console:
Traceback (most recent call last): File "c:/depot/games/branches/release/EVE-TRANQUILITY/carbon/common/lib\bluepy.py", line 86, in CallWrapper File "bin:/../../carbon/common/script/net/machoNet.py", line 4388, in TransportReader File "c:/depot/games/branches/release/EVE-TRANQUILITY/carbon/common/lib\log.py", line 300, in LogException AttributeError: 'module' object has no attribute 'pyos'
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Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries Imperial Crimson Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:21:00 -
[137] - Quote
CCP Orion wrote:Jokath wrote:I am unable to download the client update. The screen simply never progresses, and of course I can't log in without applying the update. I have not experienced this issue before. I'm also unaware of any manual download for this new update.
PC version 7.11.304168 Windows XP 64 bit core i7 Could you file a bug report with as much info as you can provide, logserver log would be very helpful in this case. Thanks
I still can't download client update, same as Jokath, on any clients. Sent bug report yesterday with log server log.
I'm using same operating system, Windows XP 64 bit, if that helps
Would really love to play someday soon. |
Zifrian
Deep Space Innovations
18
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:40:00 -
[138] - Quote
Frakir Shedimuthgur wrote:Platform: PC My overview windows change size and position randomly after dock / undock. Cleared cache, restarted client... nope still not working properly. Very annoying.
Same Maximze your Industry Potential! - Get EVE Isk per Hour! https://sourceforge.net/projects/eveiph/ |
prstuoko
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2011.10.19 22:48:00 -
[139] - Quote
Ratklif wrote:CCP Orion wrote:Jokath wrote:I am unable to download the client update. The screen simply never progresses, and of course I can't log in without applying the update. I have not experienced this issue before. I'm also unaware of any manual download for this new update.
PC version 7.11.304168 Windows XP 64 bit core i7 Could you file a bug report with as much info as you can provide, logserver log would be very helpful in this case. Thanks I still can't download client update, same as Jokath, on any clients. Sent bug report yesterday with log server log. I'm using same operating system, Windows XP 64 bit, if that helps Would really love to play someday soon.
Same issue here and i am starting to think its a xp64 bug |
yrag eel
Drama Llamas
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 01:46:00 -
[140] - Quote
CCP Gangleri wrote:yrag eel wrote:
Same problem here. Mac running 10.5.8. Had previously removed many "unnecessary" languages on my Mac as well.
Please try the generic patch, it acts as a repair tool in cases where the client has been modified: http://content.eveonline.com//mac/evepremiumpatch304168-mac.tgzNormal patches do not handle these edge cases since it is more efficient to build them directly from a known good version to the new one. Generic patches take longer to run and download more data than would be necessary for a direct patch.
Thanks...worked great. |
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Nyler Yar
Academia de Combate Fraggle Rock.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 03:32:00 -
[141] - Quote
jahamesh neutron wrote:CCP Legion wrote:Lukaya wrote:The overview/station services resizing issue persists for me even after resetting cache and the whole settings.
Grey Stormshadow wrote:My "station services"-window and "selected item"-window have moved healthy amount down quite often when entering station or entering space.
Could you try resetting the window positions to default in the ESC menu, Reset Settings, and see if that helps with the overview/station services moving around when docking/undocking? Not a guaranteed fix, but this seems to do it for a lot of players. Noticed this on my Mac client. I tried resetting the default window positions in the ESC menu and it did seem to keep my Overview and selected item window positioned correctly. But upon docking my Station Services window was slid down a bit. And as the station environment was loading I noticed that the Selected Item window as still on screen as the Station services window loaded positioned exactly below where the Selected item window was. This was true of the Overview and Selected Item windows when undocking as well, however the window position reset fixed the problem during the undock. The problem still remains for the Station services window, however.
Had the same problem and after thinking about that for like 30 seconds i figured out what is maybe a temp solution for this game breaking issue and the thing is that the client apparently resizes overview and station services windows trying to fit em on screen as if they where in the same lets call it sesion...and that shouldnt happen because in station overview is off and vice versa...so...about my temp solution...move the station services window to the top left of the screen (assuming you dont use any other window on that position) so the client dosnt try to resize anything because windows are on different corners of the screen...at least this worked for me and i can live for a few days with the station services window in an anoying position... |
Desparo
Roid Ravagers Unitary Enterprises
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 05:50:00 -
[142] - Quote
Nyler Yar wrote:jahamesh neutron wrote:CCP Legion wrote:Lukaya wrote:The overview/station services resizing issue persists for me even after resetting cache and the whole settings.
Grey Stormshadow wrote:My "station services"-window and "selected item"-window have moved healthy amount down quite often when entering station or entering space.
Could you try resetting the window positions to default in the ESC menu, Reset Settings, and see if that helps with the overview/station services moving around when docking/undocking? Not a guaranteed fix, but this seems to do it for a lot of players. Noticed this on my Mac client. I tried resetting the default window positions in the ESC menu and it did seem to keep my Overview and selected item window positioned correctly. But upon docking my Station Services window was slid down a bit. And as the station environment was loading I noticed that the Selected Item window as still on screen as the Station services window loaded positioned exactly below where the Selected item window was. This was true of the Overview and Selected Item windows when undocking as well, however the window position reset fixed the problem during the undock. The problem still remains for the Station services window, however. Had the same problem and after thinking about that for like 30 seconds i figured out what is maybe a temp solution for this game breaking issue and the thing is that the client apparently resizes overview and station services windows trying to fit em both on screen as if they where in the same lets call it "sesion"...and that shouldnt happen because when you are docked overview window is off and vice versa...so...about my temp solution...move the station services window to the top left of the screen (assuming you dont use any other window on that position) so the client dosnt try to resize anything because windows are on different corners of the screen...at least this worked for me and i can live for a few days with the station services window in an anoying position... MINI WALL OF TEXT RESUMED IN: EVERY1 TRY TO MOVE STATION SERVICE WINDOW TO THE TOP LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN
Okay this solution actually works for me. Smart thinking Nyler. Your suggestion that its a conflict with those windows sounds quite reasonable.
It is of course completely sucks that I have to play EVE this way.
CCP How about this for a fix in the future. When I check lock pinned windows and I pin a window how about having them NOT MOVE. This issue with random moving windows comes up again and again, year after year. Shows that there is a fundamental flaw in the way you guys treat windows. |
el alasar
The Scope Gallente Federation
4
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Posted - 2011.10.20 08:27:00 -
[143] - Quote
CCP Gangleri wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Overview and Station Services are resizing! CCP, I warned you about this. Twice on the forums, and once in a bug report. I warned you about this and you told me you knew of the problem - how did it end up in a Tranquility release? I pretty much specifically said "this will be a deal-breaker for some players". Why is this not fixed? You're still not listening to your testers. You still don't care that we're putting in the hours. I am very disappointed in you. We did in fact receive reports of this happening, as stated in the threads you linked above we were never able to get this to happen repeatedly. ... But the above steps only triggered the issue once, after that it never happened again until the above steps were repeated. This led me to judge this as not severe enough to stop us from releasing Incarna 1.1.2 which hopefully seems like a logical conclusion. Fast forward to today, soon after Tranquility opened up it became clear that this was affecting more users than we had expected. It now seems obvious that this should have been considered a more serious issue, ....
exactly THAT way of thinking is the root cause of all problems, i could climb up the walls reading this!!! being a dev myself and having filed and processed many bugs myself i can tell you, that just because a bug cannot be reproduced easily or the steps to reproduce it are not visible, the bug hasnt vanished - the bug is still there. often the reason for the bug appearing are side conditions, a different environment,... sure, but there is no excuse for lazy programming, bad QA or false management decisions. many problems would not be built in first place if the programmer started thinking and tried to handle all conditions (instead of "i assume things are like this when my method starts").
let me assure you, if you put more time into thorough development, maybe employ practices like extreme programming, the rate you spam bugs will drop rapidly - it is hard to think of all possible conditions yourself, i know. just because a bug does not appear for 1 month doesnt mean it is not there. sometimes you do not need reproducible steps to find a bug, plain hard thinking might also help.
if people put their own time in to do QA for you - then you should honor that and not dismiss those reports as non-reproducible, unimportant or something else.
maybe you should also think about fixing existing bugs first before implementing new functionality. for weeks i am seeing really annoying bugs in tranquility like the following: - assets window freezes after some time - warp tunnel effect sometimes not there - speed display freezes sometimes - no drag and drop between quickbar and chat
...not to speak of some simple UI changes which would improve usabilty very much.
when you file a new bug, first you are told to delete the cache and all settings (understandable, but feels a bit like first level support handling your case - "you plugged the power chord in?!"). while deleting the cache is no problem, deleting your settings every time you file a bug is unacceptable, because many settings are not saved server-side and cannot be imported/exported client-side (among them being bookmark structuring, quickbar, shortcuts, ...). how about rolling out some consistency checking for the settings? enable users to edit settings manually?
sorry for the hard criticism, i do believe there has been much valuable work done and improvements implemented behind the scenes. you just need to work on those things.
i was very happy when i read weeks ago top management wanted to listen more to the community and put quality first. sadly it seems that people in development und people responsible for the release decision have not yet heard or felt those changes. i just hope there will be a change in the future... |
disasteur
Tellcomtec Incorporated. Preatoriani
10
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Posted - 2011.10.20 09:16:00 -
[144] - Quote
all those bugs!!!
stop drinking ? or move on to another less buggie game?
none of these bugs came up during test rounds? |
Nyler Yar
Academia de Combate Fraggle Rock.
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 11:50:00 -
[145] - Quote
Desparo wrote:Nyler Yar wrote:WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT WALL OF TEXT
MINI WALL OF TEXT RESUMED IN: EVERY1 TRY TO MOVE STATION SERVICE WINDOW TO THE TOP LEFT SIDE OF THE SCREEN Okay this solution actually works for me. Smart thinking Nyler. Your suggestion that its a conflict with those windows sounds quite reasonable. It is of course completely sucks that I have to play EVE this way. CCP How about this for a fix in the future. When I check lock pinned windows and I pin a window how about having them NOT MOVE. This issue with random moving windows comes up again and again, year after year. Shows that there is a fundamental flaw in the way you guys treat windows.
Glad that it helped at least 1 person
and btw...im having some minor graphical glitchs since the patch, not gamebreaking but anoying, one is the warp tunnel, either non existant or heading an extremelly wrong direction (70 degree from where im heading as example)...the other is a small black box in the top center of the screen when i open the game (its like 1x12mm), this last one is maybe my graphic card acting up and about to die or something, but the timing was strange, i mean...this appeared after a patch and also it goes away as soon as i close the game...and...the black box is not all the time black...sometimes it copy the background color in the game...and i play in windowed mode, if i move the game window the black box stays in the exact same position... |
Saphyrie
Nefantar Expeditionary Force N E M E S I S
13
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Posted - 2011.10.20 14:27:00 -
[146] - Quote
CCP Bella Bee wrote:We are working on a fix for the overview issue which we are aiming to get out in the coming days. In the meantime there are workarounds outlined in this thread that have worked for some people. And believe me, we're just as frustrated as you are that we didn't catch this in testing. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time you dock or undock, but it's the nature of these things that sometimes they only manifest under conditions that don't occur in our test environment.. I'm glad you're stepping up to this. But...
I still can't help but be really shocked you didn't see this.
Well, good luck fixing it, I know I look forward to seeing it fixed, though I do have a workable solution for now.
Basically, just turn the window snap off and things seem to stay put, mostly, enough so to make it less hair pullingly annoying.
I'd apologize for going nuclear but no, I'm not sorry, this was a really bad blunder. How y'all missed it is really beyond belief.
But thanks for acknowledging it and keeping us posted. I for one find two way communication to be delightful and am glad CCP is trying it out. |
Mongo Edwards
Royal Order of Security Specialists
4
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Posted - 2011.10.20 16:30:00 -
[147] - Quote
I can also not spin my ships. Before CQ was released I had disabled load station environment aka I had a static screen. My fiance who didn't turn this off on her laptop can spin her ships now.
Does it maybe have to do with if load station environment was disabled prior to updating to CQ only? |
Nicholai Thomasovich
Celestial Horizon Corp. Flatline.
2
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Posted - 2011.10.20 17:27:00 -
[148] - Quote
Ships not spinning, don't really care so much about that. But the windows bug is driving me batty. I thought resetting the window position fixed it, but it didn't.
Yet another customer peeved off at CCP's lack of QA. I just don't buy the "we didn't know it would be such a big issue" thing. People posted in the test forum that it was happening to them. CCP was just in too much of a rush to get the spinning ships out the door that they shot themselves in the foot. Again. |
Andreus Ixiris
Mixed Metaphor
98
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Posted - 2011.10.20 18:49:00 -
[149] - Quote
Nicholai Thomasovich wrote:People posted in the test forum that it was happening to them..
I'm beginning to see just how little the opinions of testers mean to them. Andreus Anthony LeHane Ixiris CEO, Mixed Metaphor Media Consultant, Voyeur Studios |
bigneo
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 20:16:00 -
[150] - Quote
not to be rude but ffs ccp.... |
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CCP Orion
C C P C C P Alliance
32
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Posted - 2011.10.20 20:18:00 -
[151] - Quote
Andreus Ixiris wrote:Nicholai Thomasovich wrote:People posted in the test forum that it was happening to them.. I'm beginning to see just how little the opinions of testers mean to them.
The opinions of players investing their own time in helping us improve the game means the world to us. The issue here is that for specific client side bugs, in this case the window location code, erroneous behaviour can be tough to verify/reproduce. This is because you guys have us outnumbered and are running on more diverse hardware. As CCP Gangleri detailed earlier in this thread the window placement bug, was reproducible in house but in a more benign form, thus we decided to go ahead with the patch. A fix for this issue is coming next tuesday, and a refactoring of the window position code is coming in the winter release. |
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Strike Severasse
Red Dead Redemption
1
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Posted - 2011.10.20 20:25:00 -
[152] - Quote
Great spinning ships update and thanks for un-breaking it so well! |
Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries Imperial Crimson Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 23:05:00 -
[153] - Quote
CCP Orion wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Nicholai Thomasovich wrote:People posted in the test forum that it was happening to them.. I'm beginning to see just how little the opinions of testers mean to them. The opinions of players investing their own time in helping us improve the game means the world to us. The issue here is that for specific client side bugs, in this case the window location code, erroneous behaviour can be tough to verify/reproduce. This is because you guys have us outnumbered and are running on more diverse hardware. As CCP Gangleri detailed earlier in this thread the window placement bug, was reproducible in house but in a more benign form, thus we decided to go ahead with the patch. A fix for this issue is coming next tuesday, and a refactoring of the window position code is coming in the winter release. And what about other fixes?
Client update not downloading. What the word on that?
I don't give #$%& if my ship spins or not, I want to get back to playing game. |
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CCP Orion
C C P C C P Alliance
32
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Posted - 2011.10.20 23:21:00 -
[154] - Quote
Ratklif wrote:CCP Orion wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Nicholai Thomasovich wrote:People posted in the test forum that it was happening to them.. I'm beginning to see just how little the opinions of testers mean to them. The opinions of players investing their own time in helping us improve the game means the world to us. The issue here is that for specific client side bugs, in this case the window location code, erroneous behaviour can be tough to verify/reproduce. This is because you guys have us outnumbered and are running on more diverse hardware. As CCP Gangleri detailed earlier in this thread the window placement bug, was reproducible in house but in a more benign form, thus we decided to go ahead with the patch. A fix for this issue is coming next tuesday, and a refactoring of the window position code is coming in the winter release. And what about other fixes? Client update not downloading. What the word on that? I don't give #$%& if my ship spins or not, I want to get back to playing game.
There's a workaround for the client update problem that might be of help. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=218137#post218137
Cheers, |
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Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries Imperial Crimson Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 23:46:00 -
[155] - Quote
CCP Orion wrote:Ratklif wrote:CCP Orion wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Nicholai Thomasovich wrote:People posted in the test forum that it was happening to them.. I'm beginning to see just how little the opinions of testers mean to them. The opinions of players investing their own time in helping us improve the game means the world to us. The issue here is that for specific client side bugs, in this case the window location code, erroneous behaviour can be tough to verify/reproduce. This is because you guys have us outnumbered and are running on more diverse hardware. As CCP Gangleri detailed earlier in this thread the window placement bug, was reproducible in house but in a more benign form, thus we decided to go ahead with the patch. A fix for this issue is coming next tuesday, and a refactoring of the window position code is coming in the winter release. And what about other fixes? Client update not downloading. What the word on that? I don't give #$%& if my ship spins or not, I want to get back to playing game. There's a workaround for the client update problem that might be of help. https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=218137#post218137Cheers, Worked perfect thanks |
steveking
Rainbows in the Darkness
0
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Posted - 2011.10.20 23:52:00 -
[156] - Quote
I cant understand all these issues.Im running a cheap radeon 5450,with eve on high.I dont use catalyst ai,it messes up eve.
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Infinite Force
Hammer Of Light
8
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 02:08:00 -
[157] - Quote
Normally I don't post on these, but this one is REALLY ANNOYING!
The window conflict issue noted previously is exactly what is happening -
When I docked, I happened to notice that the station spin environment was loaded BEFORE the overview / selection window was removed & position saved. This causes the station services window to be 'forced' ? to the lower right area - subsequently messing up the entire in-space overview window areas.
It was rather interesting for about 1 second to see the in-space overview windows in my station environment. lol
Hopefully this will help in debugging that dratted bug! HROLT CEO Live Free; Die Proud
Hammer Mineral Compression -á- The only way to go! |
Haulin Aussie
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
2
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 02:44:00 -
[158] - Quote
THIS WINDOW RESIZING IS THE MOST ANNOYING ******* THING EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YES CAPS CAUSE I MAD ABOUT HAVING TO RESIZE MY ******* OVERVIEW EVERY ******* TIME I ******* UNDOCK OR SCRATCH MY NUTS
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Zh'Khraag
KhraTyr Group
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 03:15:00 -
[159] - Quote
CCP Bella Bee wrote:Daesis Wrack wrote:CCP Phantom wrote:
- Some players may experience their station services and overview windows shrinking to minimum size when they dock or undock.
Is this the sort of thing you'll have a client patch for tomorrow, or is this one gonna linger around for another couple expansions? Cause this is affecting a lot of people and is basically game-breaking. We are treating this as a high priority issue. And to address the QA question, unfortunately it's one of those issues that only happen under certain circumstances (the details of which we haven't determined yet but part of it is the timing of sequence of events) which didn't occur in our test environment. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time, these are really the most annoying bugs.
Does your "Test Environment" include offsite testing? Connecting through an ISP and having to handshake through multiple connections to get to your server produces far different timings than connecting through your local connection in house. |
Mibad
Caldari Provisions
40
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 06:37:00 -
[160] - Quote
My display drivers now crash upon alt-tabbing or exiting the game since this new patch. Not sure why its not playing nice anymore :(
AMD 11.9
AMD 5850/5830 Crossfire 800/1200 AMD Phenom X6 1090T 4GHZ MSI 890FXA-GD70 GSKILL 8GB DDR3 1333 Crucial M4 128 SSD
WIN 7 64
Hardware runs without a hitch for everything else. |
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Will DestroyYou
2
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 06:54:00 -
[161] - Quote
As well as the annoying window bug, I still have a bug from 4+ patches ago (reported muliple times already by multiple people).
Loading ammo into missile bays (grouped) gives an error popup for each launcher (some crap about not being able to fit a float value into each of the launchers).
Should I expect this to be fixed in the next 6 months? It was reported months ago now, in multiple patch threads.. It seems feedback is being ignored for a bug that should be a simple fix.
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disasteur
Tellcomtec Incorporated. Preatoriani
10
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 07:16:00 -
[162] - Quote
Quote:As CCP Gangleri detailed earlier in this thread the window placement bug, was reproducible in house but in a more benign form, thus we decided to go ahead with the patch.
i really get a bad taste when i see lines stated like this.... i would love to see an explanation on this |
Jubal Solerio
Penumbra Exploration
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 07:57:00 -
[163] - Quote
Window resizing issue (cleared cache, reset defaults, no change)
Intermitant warp tunel effect though thats not a new thing
Persistant tractor beam & salvager sounds in missions even with the turrets deactivated (Noctis)
System: -Win 7/ Sapphire graphics card-
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el alasar
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 08:18:00 -
[164] - Quote
CCP Orion wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Nicholai Thomasovich wrote:People posted in the test forum that it was happening to them.. I'm beginning to see just how little the opinions of testers mean to them. The opinions of players investing their own time in helping us improve the game means the world to us. The issue here is that for specific client side bugs, in this case the window location code, erroneous behaviour can be tough to verify/reproduce. This is because you guys have us outnumbered and are running on more diverse hardware. As CCP Gangleri detailed earlier in this thread the window placement bug, was reproducible in house but in a more benign form, thus we decided to go ahead with the patch. A fix for this issue is coming next tuesday, and a refactoring of the window position code is coming in the winter release.
it would be nice if you also commented on my somewhat longer previous post.
i actually believe that you drastically need to change the way you handle bugs: IF there is a KNOWN bug, FIX the bug FIRST, dont roll out the update or new functionality. as you had to admit and as we all see now, you cannot forsee how many people will be affected by a bug. people can wait a week longer for sure for new things to come, but they get mad (for good reason) when they see new bugs introduced (that are not necessary imoh).
if window layout (concisely remembering previous state) is so hard and difficult to do you might earn some understanding if you explained some details how it is done and what actually caused the problem. i believe the community will put a finger into this bug and will want to know what has been the root cause for this. lets see if this isnt in the end just some lazy programming and if you had the courage to admit it.
your CEO has stated "put quality first" - this means dont roll out bugs to production environment, dont make a risk assessment on the bug, just fix it first. imagine some business / banking software had a hard to find bug, and every 1 wire transfer out of 1 million was performed erroneous, it is just unacceptable - even more rolling it out if you KNEW there was a "dormant" bug.
THIS MENTALITY OF YOURS HOW TO HANDLE BUGS HAS TO BE ESCALATED TO TOP MANAGEMENT. this kind of ignorance and arrogance is becoming unbearable. |
Partsking
Ardent Spirits BricK sQuAD.
11
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 14:44:00 -
[165] - Quote
Jubal Solerio wrote:Window resizing issue (cleared cache, reset defaults, no change)
Intermitant warp tunel effect though thats not a new thing
Ditto this. XP and Win 7 installs across multiple clients.
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Linda Shadowborn
Dark Steel Industries
24
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 15:55:00 -
[166] - Quote
CCP Bella Bee wrote:We are working on a fix for the overview issue which we are aiming to get out in the coming days. In the meantime there are workarounds outlined in this thread that have worked for some people. And believe me, we're just as frustrated as you are that we didn't catch this in testing. I know it's hard to believe when you see it happen every time you dock or undock, but it's the nature of these things that sometimes they only manifest under conditions that don't occur in our test environment..
you know.. somehow i doubt that, I tried every one of thsoe workarounds.. nothing works. Tried clearing all the settings and had to spend quite some time reorginizing my bookmarks again (oh what fun!!!! all those jamming spots, below, above, behind, in front of every station and gate).
Seriously I am reaaaaaaaaallyyyy annoyed... "oh its benign bug.. lets roll it out" pretty much PROVES that you are not as frustrated as we are.
Bah, why do i even bother with this game.
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DHuncan
DHuncan Corp
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 16:39:00 -
[167] - Quote
el alasar wrote:CCP Orion wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Nicholai Thomasovich wrote:People posted in the test forum that it was happening to them.. I'm beginning to see just how little the opinions of testers mean to them. The opinions of players investing their own time in helping us improve the game means the world to us. The issue here is that for specific client side bugs, in this case the window location code, erroneous behaviour can be tough to verify/reproduce. This is because you guys have us outnumbered and are running on more diverse hardware. As CCP Gangleri detailed earlier in this thread the window placement bug, was reproducible in house but in a more benign form, thus we decided to go ahead with the patch. A fix for this issue is coming next tuesday, and a refactoring of the window position code is coming in the winter release. it would be nice if you also commented on my somewhat longer previous post.i actually believe that you drastically need to change the way you handle bugs: IF there is a KNOWN bug, FIX the bug FIRST, dont roll out the update or new functionality. as you had to admit and as we all see now, you cannot forsee how many people will be affected by a bug. people can wait a week longer for sure for new things to come, but they get mad (for good reason) when they see new bugs introduced (that are not necessary imoh). if window layout (concisely remembering previous state) is so hard and difficult to do you might earn some understanding if you explained some details how it is done and what actually caused the problem. i believe the community will put a finger into this bug and will want to know what has been the root cause for this. lets see if this isnt in the end just some lazy programming and if you had the courage to admit it. your CEO has stated "put quality first"** - this means dont roll out bugs to production environment, dont make a risk assessment on the bug, just fix it first. imagine some business / banking software had a hard to find bug, and every 1 wire transfer out of 1 million was performed erroneous, it is just unacceptable - even more rolling it out if you KNEW there was a "dormant" bug. THIS MENTALITY OF YOURS HOW TO HANDLE BUGS HAS TO BE ESCALATED TO TOP MANAGEMENT. this kind of ignorance and arrogance is becoming unbearable. let me give another constructive suggestion to your problem of doing QA. for sure it is hard to find a bug on sisi when only a few players are using it (compared to tranquility, and what are you suppsed to do alone in a static sandbox). how about you do the following: - announce the availability of a patch, ready to be tested on a new "quality first" test system - freeze this patch level on the new test server - give people 2 million free skillpoints (on test server) as incentive to go there and test something out - even more, maybe give people about 24k free permanent SP on tranquility as another incentive to do QA for you. or increase skilling rate on tranquality to e.g. factor 1.5 for the time you spend on new test server to find bugs. - keep the test system runnning until the patch has been proved ok and rolled out into production, then take it down **actually i dont find the source right now, please correct me if i had a wrong impression here about the CEO's views. please notice how much the community values Commit to excellence (CSM) - competing with new functionality and other features! ( July 2011 Prioritization Crowdsourcing).
Bravo! |
RawKrung
Delta Division.
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 16:59:00 -
[168] - Quote
I had two problems: not spinning ship and windows resizing.
I've resolved first problem clearing all settings, but very annoyed by reconfigure all the shortcuts.
The problem about windows resizing is: when docking, line windows of "Selected Item" and "Overview" is still there when "Station" window appears. They are on the same line, so, because the sum of three height is bigger than screen height resolution, there is some function that try to fit the three windows inside the screen, resizing it.
Solution: remove that function
I know that you want help us, but sometimes helps is worst than the problem. People are enough intelligent to resize their windows to see what they need. If windows are one over another, just let where they are.
The quick solution to this, just to get stable windows position, is to move "Selected Item" and "Overview", a bit aside from the border, so they are no more on the same line of "Station". If you need help, can contact me ingame.
To all Devs: I really appreciate if you reply my post and tell me what do you think about.
Thanks |
Hormus
Veria Ltd.
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 17:21:00 -
[169] - Quote
Now it's been three days since last patch, 3 downtimes to fix certain things. And first of all, the problems of functionality - the windows docking bug. But nothing happened. Why?
I was expecting it to be fixed quickly, more so when I realized the problem was very specific and well known - station info and overview windows are for a short time co-existent, and for a split-second during docking and undocking they try to snap on each other (I managed to see it, overview window snapping on bottom of station info window) but not always, it would seem.
But noone fixed it! Is it that difficult? Why?
And it happens only on ship spinning, not on CQ (wouldn'nt know, I don't ever load it).
What happened? CCP decided grudgingly to give us back spinning ships, but doesn't care if it is bugged? Does CCP see it as a kind of punishment for not using CQ? Or they are determined not to give one workhour in something that is not immediately connected to vain items? Who needs monocles when he can enjoy his ship spinning? Or the implementation of ship spinning is so badly, quickly, hastily and cheaply made that it is natural to have lots of bugs? Perhaps.
Or is it something else? Perhaps the staff fired, where the ones able to communicate upwards the real demands of the players, and now all that will happen is what marketing division will say we like? Maybe marketing ppl say now, 'oh come on, it's nothing important, look we cannot even reproduce it properly, there are very few players that are affected, and many of them are probably lying out of spite'. Maybe.
Or perhaps, this bug is very difficult to be fixed. The simple sequence of docking, like '1. Close overview window. 2. Open station info window' can't be followed: time-dilation and all these time-sharing marvels we hear, just seem to make the client don't know whether it is in space or not, if it should close windows or not, etc. And we expect fleet fights to be unbugged? Perhaps.
I'm sick of resizing windows on every dock and every undock. I don't want any workaround, and I don't want to reset and rearrange all my windows on all my accounts and on all the computers that I play with. I want a solution, clean and complete.
I don't know where CCP is really heading, when someone makes the same mistakes over and over again you start to think they are not mistakes after all.
I'm seriously thinking of starting an account on a similar RPG, just in case CCP's management finally manages to kill EVE.
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Adrian Dixon
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 18:05:00 -
[170] - Quote
I have noticed when docking into hanger, just before the hanger enviroment loads when you can still see the nebula background several small windows appear the middle of the screen, the top window does not have a title or anything distinguishable but all the windows are the size of a cargohold window shrunk to mininum. I have been trying to get a screenshot but its not easy, sometimes there is only one window other times there are several all stacked.
Obviously its not an issue but it might be a usefull clue related to other problems.
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RawKrung
Delta Division.
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 18:23:00 -
[171] - Quote
Adrian Dixon wrote:I have noticed when docking into hanger, just before the hanger enviroment loads when you can still see the nebula background several small windows appear the middle of the screen, the top window does not have a title or anything distinguishable but all the windows are the size of a cargohold window shrunk to mininum. I have been trying to get a screenshot but its not easy, sometimes there is only one window other times there are several all stacked.
Obviously its not an issue but it might be a usefull clue related to other problems.
you can take a video with CamStudio, but i think are selected item, overview and station windows |
Adrian Dixon
The Scope Gallente Federation
3
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 18:44:00 -
[172] - Quote
RawKrung wrote: you can take a video with CamStudio, but i think are selected item, overview and station windows
Thats a good idea, i will give it go with fraps. |
Xintri Ra'Virr
Six Kin Mining and Development Group
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 20:51:00 -
[173] - Quote
CCP FIX WINDOW RESIZING BUG !!!!!
IT"S SO FUC*** ANNOYING!!!!!!
THIS DAMN BUG CAN KILL IN LOWSEC FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!! |
Stigman Zuwadza
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.21 22:10:00 -
[174] - Quote
When I 'check' and 'unchecked' the 'Load Station Environment' it has no effect.
I receive the message saying it will take effect the next time I dock but it never does.
I'm not really a fan of the spinning ship (is it supposed to spin on its own?), I was happy with the static CQ background.
Gimme it back please.
I am also having the problem of my windows resetting / seemingly appear in odd placements. Becoming very annoying. |
Hormus
Veria Ltd.
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.22 06:19:00 -
[175] - Quote
From Hilmar's interview with Eurogamer:
"We're really focused on making kick-ass Eve expansions..." I just can't see it.
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Lupus Caeli
Caldari Navy Seals
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.22 07:16:00 -
[176] - Quote
Leave ship when in my tengu and it's the only ship in station does not work ... had to switch on the CQ crap to get out of thwe ship |
disasteur
Tellcomtec Incorporated. Preatoriani
10
|
Posted - 2011.10.22 08:03:00 -
[177] - Quote
el alasar wrote:CCP Orion wrote:Andreus Ixiris wrote:Nicholai Thomasovich wrote:People posted in the test forum that it was happening to them.. I'm beginning to see just how little the opinions of testers mean to them. The opinions of players investing their own time in helping us improve the game means the world to us. The issue here is that for specific client side bugs, in this case the window location code, erroneous behaviour can be tough to verify/reproduce. This is because you guys have us outnumbered and are running on more diverse hardware. As CCP Gangleri detailed earlier in this thread the window placement bug, was reproducible in house but in a more benign form, thus we decided to go ahead with the patch. A fix for this issue is coming next tuesday, and a refactoring of the window position code is coming in the winter release. it would be nice if you also commented on my somewhat longer previous post.i actually believe that you drastically need to change the way you handle bugs: IF there is a KNOWN bug, FIX the bug FIRST, dont roll out the update or new functionality. as you had to admit and as we all see now, you cannot forsee how many people will be affected by a bug. people can wait a week longer for sure for new things to come, but they get mad (for good reason) when they see new bugs introduced (that are not necessary imoh). if window layout (concisely remembering previous state) is so hard and difficult to do you might earn some understanding if you explained some details how it is done and what actually caused the problem. i believe the community will put a finger into this bug and will want to know what has been the root cause for this. lets see if this isnt in the end just some lazy programming and if you had the courage to admit it. your CEO has stated "put quality first"** - this means dont roll out bugs to production environment, dont make a risk assessment on the bug, just fix it first. imagine some business / banking software had a hard to find bug, and every 1 wire transfer out of 1 million was performed erroneous, it is just unacceptable - even more rolling it out if you KNEW there was a "dormant" bug. THIS MENTALITY OF YOURS HOW TO HANDLE BUGS HAS TO BE ESCALATED TO TOP MANAGEMENT. this kind of ignorance and arrogance is becoming unbearable. let me give another constructive suggestion to your problem of doing QA. for sure it is hard to find a bug on sisi when only a few players are using it (compared to tranquility, and what are you suppsed to do alone in a static sandbox). how about you do the following: - announce the availability of a patch, ready to be tested on a new "quality first" test system - freeze this patch level on the new test server - give people 2 million free skillpoints (on test server) as incentive to go there and test something out - even more, maybe give people about 24k free permanent SP on tranquility as another incentive to do QA for you. or increase skilling rate on tranquality to e.g. factor 1.5 for the time you spend on new test server to find bugs. - keep the test system runnning until the patch has been proved ok and rolled out into production, then take it down **actually i dont find the source right now, please correct me if i had a wrong impression here about the CEO's views. please notice how much the community values Commit to excellence (CSM) - competing with new functionality and other features! ( July 2011 Prioritization Crowdsourcing).
i bump this post because it says it all, verry well put and writen! |
PaulTheWise
Environmental Control Unit V3SPA Community
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.22 10:58:00 -
[178] - Quote
What does pinning do? There is not a single difference I can find except for changing the alpha transparency? I can still move / resize / dock / stack... a pinned window like an unpinned one.
Reason I'm asking is because changing the pinned-state on my station services appeared to have fixed the windows moving themselves. This was, however, false alarm.
Pre-amble: I've pressed both 'Clear all cache files' and 'Reset to default window positions'-buttons. This did not change the behaviour, as I did the tests below both before and after using those.
There is some sort of relation between "station services" and "dones/overview/selected item" it seems, but only if they overlap. If there's no overlap (like dragging station services to the left hand side, normally all 4 windows + ships are docked on the right hand side) I can move everything and it stays put. I haven't tried all permutations with pinned and unpinned, but pinning doesn't seem to matter.
From now on, if I say 'any window/anything', I mean those 4 troublesome windows; the other windows (chat, or even 'ships', which has an 'overlap' with the drones-window in space) don't seem to be a factor in this.
I've been dragging, resizing and generally experimenting with the windows. I already mentioned overlap; if there is none (between the station services and the windows in space, so it's more of a ghost-overlap) there is no problem, I can move everything the way I wish and it stays put.
However, if they overlap, things remain stable as long as I don't change anything. If I put the Selected Item / Overview / Drones where I want them, dock and leave the station services window alone (even though my OCD tells me to put it back where it belongs), I can undock and find my Selected Item / Overview / Drones where I want them. This is 100% repeatable, both ways; if I don't change anything in one of the screens, EVE will not do anything to the window(s) in the other screen.
I hope to have found some clue for the developers because this is quit annoying :P |
el alasar
The Scope Gallente Federation
13
|
Posted - 2011.10.22 12:01:00 -
[179] - Quote
PaulTheWise wrote:I hope to have found some clue for the developers because this is quit annoying :P It is probably a typo, but this is probably how many people feel - so annoying to quit . and most players dont visit the forums to complain or look for help/workarounds.
I got overview jumping quite fixed by setting the snap distance to "dont snap". maybe, dear CCP, you should put this information in the news section on the right in the character selection screen just after logging in to eve. |
oematoema
The Muppet Show
25
|
Posted - 2011.10.22 12:24:00 -
[180] - Quote
It's always the same: new patch, new feedback thread that's linked from the front page, maybe some replies from CCP people for a couple of days (or not), and then...complete and utter silence.
How many people have to get fired from your company before you understand that it is exactly this kind of behaviour that is causing people to unsub and leave EVE. Take a look at my signature. I assume these profound words are still true. I understand that you can't have employees answering every single question and replying every post on this forum, but for ****'s sake: YOU created this thread and the feedback thread yourselves, which IMHO means that you should spend at least some time every once and a while (daily?) to read the responses in those threads and reply to the numerous intelligent and informative posts and maybe even the not-so intelligent posts.
And now the obligatory profanity filter evasion to at least try to provoke some kind of reply, although even that didn't work anymore in the feedback thread of the 1.1.1 patch: f++ck sh+»t
Thank you.
Statement on behalf of CCP from Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, Senior Producer for EVE Online. Good communication and trust between CCP and the EVE community has always been a fundamental priority for CCP and will continue to be so. |
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Xintri Ra'Virr
Six Kin Mining and Development Group
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.22 12:30:00 -
[181] - Quote
OK guys i've found temporary solution for that nasty window rescaleing/moveing bug.
All you have to do is to minimize Item selection window and Overview window BEFORE you dock at station. Next time you undock all will be on its positions.
Cheers |
prstuoko
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.22 13:32:00 -
[182] - Quote
When will u fix the damn client update ? Cant be downloaded .. server is not responding when it tries to dl.. so plx either make it manual dl for now or screw yourselves. Why i pay for this game? to have u **** up things and not say a word about fuckups? Its being written in forum already few times and not a single response to it or fix coming. I even reinstalled eve and still same **** happens - there is client - click to dl - i try and it just hangs in there without dling anything. If u cant figure it out reroll it or do manual dl available. Use brain once. |
SkinSin
Cushions of Doom
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.22 21:40:00 -
[183] - Quote
I haven't read the entire thread, but I am plagued by two new (and an old) issues:
1) The back and forward buttons in the information screens disappear if I make use of them regularly.
2) For about the umpteenth time, while docked, I tried to minimize a window by clicking on the - in the top right corner. And again, all that happended was that the window title buttons disappeared and nothing happend to the window.
3) An old one, if you do "Sell this item" from the context menu of an item in your hanger more than 3 times without closing the sell window, the fourth sell window refresh results in all padding on the left of the window disappearing. |
Rasz Lin
4
|
Posted - 2011.10.23 00:25:00 -
[184] - Quote
cant spin - i refuse to delete all my settings
assets window freezes when left on SEARCH tab after few docks/undocks, this bug is 2 months old now, it was fixed a year ago and returned :/ |
JaseNZ
The Suicide Kings Test Alliance Please Ignore
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.23 01:46:00 -
[185] - Quote
SkinSin wrote:I haven't read the entire thread, but I am plagued by two new (and an old) issues:
2) For about the umpteenth time, while docked, I tried to minimize a window by clicking on the - in the top right corner. And again, all that happended was that the window title buttons disappeared and nothing happend to the window.
I get this too. To get the buttons to re-appear I have to hover the cursor outside the window in question, then hover over it again. It is slightly annoying.
But not as annoying as the overview/station services windows shifting themselves.
Any ETA on a fix, CCP?
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Ratklif
Orbidon Galactic Industries Imperial Crimson Legion
0
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Posted - 2011.10.23 04:27:00 -
[186] - Quote
prstuoko wrote:When will u fix the damn client update ? Cant be downloaded .. server is not responding when it tries to dl.. so plx either make it manual dl for now or screw yourselves. Why i pay for this game? to have u **** up things and not say a word about fuckups? Its being written in forum already few times and not a single response to it or fix coming. I even reinstalled eve and still same **** happens - there is client - click to dl - i try and it just hangs in there without dling anything. If u cant figure it out reroll it or do manual dl available. Use brain once.
This works Had the same problem as you.
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Glaso Fruix
Happy Space Friends
0
|
Posted - 2011.10.23 14:13:00 -
[187] - Quote
Uhm, is it me or the color settings are all ****** up in the ship hangar? I mean it's all muddy and awfully lack contrast. |
Stigman Zuwadza
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
|
Posted - 2011.10.23 14:32:00 -
[188] - Quote
PaulTheWise wrote:If I put the Selected Item / Overview / Drones where I want them, dock and leave the station services window alone (even though my OCD tells me to put it back where it belongs), I can undock and find my Selected Item / Overview / Drones where I want them. This is 100% repeatable, both ways; if I don't change anything in one of the screens, EVE will not do anything to the window(s) in the other screen.
I took this advice and it works. As long as I don't move the station windows alls good.
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CCP Spitfire
C C P C C P Alliance
357
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Posted - 2011.10.25 08:09:00 -
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oematoema wrote:It's always the same: new patch, new feedback thread that's linked from the front page, maybe some replies from CCP people for a couple of days (or not), and then...complete and utter silence.
We'll deploy a new patch today that will hopefully address the issues introduced with Incarna 1.1.2. The patch notes are available here.
CCP Spitfire | Russian Community Coordinator @ccp_spitfire |
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Cpt Angus
Sicarius. The Kadeshi
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Posted - 2011.10.28 17:30:00 -
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Well still having issues with the Overview:
The resizing of boxes has gone away but there is still the issue of certain elements of the HUD freezing. Today everything did for me and as a result I lost a ship.
This bug has been around along time CCP and has cost FC's many a battle; when are you fixing it and what are you doing right now to do so?! |
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Praetor Karr
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2011.10.31 13:06:00 -
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Old problem but still annoying as now cant play because of it. Character creation doesnt work at all, and for some reason, you guys still havent posted a fix for it.
its being a year...do something apart from locking any thread on the subject |
oematoema
The Muppet Show
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Posted - 2011.11.01 13:55:00 -
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Praetor Karr wrote:Old problem but still annoying as now cant play because of it. Character creation doesnt work at all, and for some reason, you guys still havent posted a fix for it.
its being a year...do something apart from locking any thread on the subject Expect an answer? [signature]? Statement on behalf of CCP from Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, Senior Producer for EVE Online. Good communication and trust between CCP and the EVE community has always been a fundamental priority for CCP and will continue to be so. |
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