Well I don't know about you, but the current ice prices are steadily rising. The market seems to feel that the ice market is comming to a head. Now if people would accept my courier missions I'd be making a killing in new profits.

Just speculation, for now. Which is no reason why you shouldn't jump the band wagon and make a few ISK yourself.

I have been watching white glaze in Jita all day and its gone from 160K from yesterday to 190K today. There is a panic starting!

And, why would we assume demand will be static?

IF mineral prices drop, then PvPers will have to rat less to replace ships = more time PvPing = more boom = more demand.

null sec miners do not leave B and C ores just sitting there, at all.

In 0.0 space you get more valuable ore and higher amounts of trit therefore its more rewarding to mine in 0.0 over high sec BUT you pay for it by giving up some security.

In 0.8 space you get less valuable ore and standard amounts of trit therefore its less rewarding to mine in 0.8 over 0.0 BUT you pay for it by gaining a little more security.

In 0.0 space you get more valuable ore and higher amounts of trit therefore its more rewarding to mine in 0.0 over high sec BUT you pay for it by giving up some security.

In 0.8 space you get less valuable ore and standard amounts of trit therefore its less rewarding to mine in 0.8 over 0.0 BUT you pay for it by gaining a little more security.

inb4 nullbears happy tears hotdrop, how long do you think tritanium/pyerite prices would stay above 0.5 ISK after Odyssey?

It's pretty blatantly clear to me, that you have no idea how sites respawn. As soon as you mine out a site, completely, of all its minerals, it respawns in about 5 minutes. Thus, you can mine out the large site repeatedly, over and over and over, 3 or 5 or 6 times a day if you have enough miners going. Only takes 10 hulks and a rorq something like 3 or 4 hours, and I've run into a lot of people with 6-12 hulk accounts.

Since the small and med have tons of worthless or near worthless minerals, yes indeed, you do just cycle the large and it IS enough to keep the industry up. Perhaps you should try actually mining in 0.0

I have been watching white glaze in Jita all day and its gone from 160K from yesterday to 190K today. There is a panic starting!

Theres no shortage of trit/pyr in null

All 12 people in the CFC who mine are ecstatic about this change.

Highsec mining will be fine.

One thing I notice is that the nullsec folks are giving the highsec folks grief for being unwilling to band together and get some security (in this case, logi, etc.), while at the same time never considering doing the same for themselves. In both cases miners don't want to, and in both cases they don't address why. I'm going to hazard a guess that the real reason is that they don't want to have to pay someone to sit in a logi or some DPS and do nothing but watch ytube and drink coffee while they (the miners) have to deal with the tedium of doing just enough ship management that they can't really go and do something else. Also, doing so cuts into profits as long as other people are willing to accept the costs of not paying for direct security.

Bringing logi to a 0.0 mining fleet really won't do anything since we don't have to worry about this silly thing called concord. Ergo the need for logi to delay death by a few seconds so Concord can save the day is irrelevant. Also "most" mining fleets in 0.0 are in Grav Sites which must be probed down. Which means they're relatively safe from solo ganks and small gangs without probers.

If you want to guarantee safety you pay a price. Be it in yield, money, or effort.

No, they're leaving 0.0 massively undersupplied with low-ends.

Just speculation, for now. Which is no reason why you shouldn't jump the band wagon and make a few ISK yourself.

Well I guess something changed, since all the hi-sec miners are wailing like a tomcat with his balls caught in the catflap.

Well I guess something changed, since all the hi-sec miners are wailing like a tomcat with his balls caught in the catflap.

well, the problem is: when you see band wagon it means it's already too late to make profits

So much for the supposed objectivity and advocating for all areas of the game and all different playstyles. Your null zealot bias is once again on display.

So much for the supposed objectivity and advocating for all areas of the game and all different playstyles. Your null zealot bias is once again on display.