GǪand the many people who will judge a game on its DirectX version rather than on its gameplay won't stick around for the long haul of EVE anyway.

GǪwhich is why it's so common. Oh wait, it's not. You upgrade if it provides an advantage; DX11 offers some performance, but only two visual enhancements (that aren't even required in DX11 hardware) in the form of SM5 and tesselation. The former is a stronger reason than the latter, but it's the latter (rather unspectacular) part that everyone assumes will be a selling point.

It already is, and moving to DX11 wouldn't change it much. That's the whole problem: the visual benefits aren't really there, and especially aren't big enough to justify alienating a still-sizeable chunk of the player base.

XP is still supported by Microshaft till April 2014. So no more security updates after that time. People will have to bite the bullet and upgrade after that or suffer an ever increasingly insecure platform

Nothing says lack of progress like running antiquated systems.

Seriously, if EVE cant feature state of the art assets becasue of Windows XP - wow

I cant believe people still run XP. I mean, damn, didnt Windows stop supporting XP like 5 years ago? I ould be wrong, but If they are still supporting it, that cant be doing so for long.

The SM3 requirment pushed me out of EvE for 6 months I think a further grapics requiement would push me out longer

Just yesterday I have read that as of now Win XP accounts for 30% of the Windows installations worldwide.

What uses more power, a car that is 50% efficient and produces 200 HP or a car that is 90% efficient and produces 500HP?

I'm saying that a lot of people are unable to upgrade, and you wanting your shinies isn't enough justification to force people to spend money they may not have or simply stop playing.

(desktops can be upgraded with a 20-40 USD card for DX11 these days)

Can you contract me 2 plexes so i can upgrade.

Glad the devs disagree 100% and already have DX11 working.

What surviving DX8 games are there and what is their subscriber base looking like?

I disagree about saying the visual enhancement would be small.

Technology demonstrations based on computing power that almost nobody has doesn't translate to a compelling reason to force a change on everyone.

Not to Justify my purchase, to Justify everyone's purchase. and CCP need to improve graphics to a quality that is expected of a modern game today. but they can't, i am sure they want to, but people running outdated rigs are holding a lot of us back.


for example a GTX 560ti can now be bought for less than -ú100 ($158)
Add 8gb of ram -ú23 ( $35 dollars )

coupled with a semi decent processor you have something capable of running eve on high end at 60fps. you can't use the argument that its too expensive because it clearly is not.

So what?

I don't see why people let their computers fall so far behind. Do you really enjoy logging into a game that looks like a Nintendo game from 1989? And don't tell me that bullcrap that you can't shell out the money for upgrades. What are you living on government support or something?

So upgrade?

It's not that difficult, welcome to the world of PC gaming, where you HAVE to upgrade every once in awhile. A GTX 560Ti, a kickass card for what it is, is $170 on Newegg.

How many times does it need to be said that the OS isn't the only restriction?
I'm running Windows 7. Still can't do DX11.

Ok. What visual enhancement are you envisioning that will make a significant impact and which can't be done under DX9?

... running windows 7 requires DX11 support..., at the very least 10.1... othertwise means you are running windows 7 without any driver for your GPU.

less client lag? more performance even with the same graphics? a better framework for multithreading? and all that base to work with when creating future shinies? I believe those are way more than enough arguments to switch.

So you're fine with forcing a lot of people to pay several hundred dollars (at least) just to continue playing? But it's okay, right? Cause it's not like you have to do anything to get all the shinies you want.