I made a really dumb post the other day.
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I make this post in an attempt to counter the problem with some thought rather then belligerence.
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Discuss....

I say keep the ganking of hulks in hisec up. Eventually you'll either end up with no more targets to shoot, or no more game to play.

It's literally impossible to get minerals from anywhere except hi-sec.

True story!

Don't know what it's like in 0.0 now, but the mineral prices used to be lower there compared to high-sec..

Basically, you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Thus I would suggest you stop doing it. Talking that is.

You didn't get the hint?

It was actually a polite way of telling you to stfu. You're boring.

Don't know what it's like in 0.0 now, but the mineral prices used to be lower there compared to high-sec..

no they didn't, for anything except pyerite

The great unsaid here....why not find other PvP-ers and shoot your hearts out (literally)? You shoot. They shoot. You shoot...

Why drag the entire EVE population into some psychopathic hunger for chaos? Why can't the ones who like to do it, do it. The ones who aren't interested as their interests lie elsewhere NOT do it?

The great unsaid...honestly answer that. Why?

See any major alliances fighting lately? Nope. They're in highsec beating up miners making less than 3m an hour.

Actually, the ice miner shooting is a side project. Though your rage about this is fairly amusing. Feel free to visit Delve if you're looking for pvp.

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It is true that suicide ganking is a problem.

If the game continues like that, there will be less new players that will stay.

You might think it is funny, but in EVE, were industry is run by players, if there are less industrial players involved, the game will face serious troubles.

If players can come to EVE, stay some time in empire, learning about the game, and playing casually against the machine, they will, with time, when they feel ready, go to low sec, 0.0.

The problem with this assertion is that it is trivially disproven by reality. The game has been like that for the last eight years, and the only thing that has lowered the number of players is when CCP has put the game on the back-burner. In fact, if you want to go into dubious correlation/causation territory like that, the game actually started to lose steam around the time suicide ganking got its last negative adjustmentGǪ

No, for the exact same reason: if there are less industrial players, then the prices will go up, which will increase the profitability of engaging in industry which will make more players do it.

A couple of problems here. Empire space is not about GÇ£learning the gameGÇ¥ GÇö we have newbie systems for that, and they already offer increased protection. Empire space is actually a rather nasty place (in some parts of it, you'll get blown up on principle, because it's just that kind of system). And finally, empire does not, and never has let you GÇ£play casually against the machineGÇ¥ for the simple reason that EVE does not support that. There is no machine to play against GÇö only other players.

It is entirely possible for newbies and carebears to play. They just need to understand what kind of game it is they're playing.

. And if having an insecure high security zone is fine, then they should simply remove it. They should decide if they want to have a secure zone, but make it secure, or simply remove it.

Highsec was never intended to be safe or secure. It's safer, that's all you're going to get.

Suicide ganking is a problem:

Because it is unbalanced. Using a ship with a lot lower cost of a defenseless industrial to kill it, is unbalanced. The attacker should loose more.

I seriously doubt that, and it is up to CCP to decide that.

With few industrial players, the market can be easily manipulated, and will not be able to run normally like that.

You play against the machine doing missions for example.

And if having an insecure high security zone is fine, then they should simply remove it. They should decide if they want to have a secure zone, but make it secure, or simply remove it.

Highsec is not GÇ£secureGÇ¥ GÇö it's just more secure, relatively speaking, than the other areas. It's high-sec, not complete-sec, and it was never intended to be a secure zone where you were free of threats.

And with the ever releasing new ships and equips it is growing less safe.

Why do I want to watch my back 24/7? I don't have to do that irl, so why would I need to here? Games are intended to be fun and that fun can possibly be taken away by anyone. In most games ganking someone would be considered harassment. I'm not saying I can't handle the heat, but not everyone is about PvP. I've learned most people in this game don't want real PvP they just want to harass people because they get hard over it. It seems like some elements to the game are flawed. I mean a simple thing like hiring an NPC merc group to protect you while you mine would be a simple addition...


P.S. Yes, you can hire players to do this too. But, as I've learned in this game, you can't trust anyone.

And the status quo has to be maintained because............

And the status quo has to be maintained because............