Idiots, can only think it would be a great idea to require an industrial ship, a lethargic, very slow to warp ship, with only 5 drones for defensive / offensive capability to be boosting outside the POS.

Its not like the "children of the corn" posting in glee on this forum are flying around null in a 2.3 billion isk frigate.

The last year and this year there seems to be a theme of rebalancing. Well before rolling out that gem of a change lets "balance" things for the miners and indy corps as well.

Rorqual / Orca
ORE ship special boost = +4 warp strength / +125% agility / -125% to sig radius

ORE ships +15% to damage and area of effect for smartbombs per level

+50% bonus to effectiveness of ECM modules.

If your going to force them to be vulnerable, you should at least make them harder to catch.

I think your full of ****. Put your api info in your next post so we can verify your not lying through your teeth. No one likes getting their skills nerfed. Especially to a group of skills that have only one specific use.

Whats the name of your CCP alt?

I think your full of ****. Put your api info in your next post so we can verify your not lying through your teeth. No one likes getting their skills nerfed. Especially to a group of skills that have only one specific use.

Whats the name of your CCP alt?

...That being said, I believe that (as a player with 14 million in leadership) gang boosts need to be nerfed but not removed, just forced on grid. Forcing them on grid means more interesting decisions to make when considering who to bring and what to have them bring.
Removing them would mean reducing the number of options/meaningful decisions to be made in the game.

Fourteen million .. how much does the Fleet Command skill add, I am missing that and Info Spec and the mining fluff with only 5M

There will be no interesting decision when its on-grid as it stands now, for maximum performance to do the old-old-school all CC gangs .. can you imagine the sheer power of 10 of any or a mix of the CC's after their revision (well apart from the brick)?

One thing CCP still has not spoken of, something I hope will appear once they have a handle on the off/on-grid code, is that link ships must be presumed high priority targets in most fights which necessitates a more streamlined way of assigning boosters, preferably one that is semi-autonomous (ex. based on pre-made list) so that a gang doesn't have to rummage around to replace bonuses whenever a link goes dead.

Mining links should not be given special treatment...

Give them an ORE battlecruiser size ship to run links on or something but to let them run links inside shield is pretty lame.

Also, I would say that CCP shouldnt streamline assigning boosters when the command chain is broken; it is disruptive and it should be. This is one of the "interesting decisions" I was talking about along with "do i really want to have to dual box my command ship instead of just being able to put it in a safe spot at the start of the fight?"

Nothing would make me comfortable with optimal gameplay for some characters during a battle being for them to sit at a safespot.

Ok everyone I'm back, recovered from the tournament and through my urgent mail.

I'm caught up on all the posts in this thread, still have some more to read in the other two then I'll start preparing to post V2 based on your feedback. I posted it to the CSM yesterday and it got a good reception.

Its not an "interesting decision" at all, its a boring, ****** task with an awful UI. With modern fleet combat the way it is boost ships will just get alphad off the field as soon as they appear

Ok everyone I'm back, recovered from the tournament and through my urgent mail.

I'm caught up on all the posts in this thread, still have some more to read in the other two then I'll start preparing to post V2 based on your feedback. I posted it to the CSM yesterday and it got a good reception.

So you are doubling the nerf?

Good man!

Ok update time!

Most of your updates are decent. Could you please take a moment to address why off grid gang links are way more potent than pirate implant sets and drugs? Both of these later items are at real risk of not only being destroyed, but also providing drawbacks to your ship. Meanwhile, links are boosting every ship, with far more potency, from historically, a "safe" place.

P.S. EXCELLENT change with by giving boosters a weapons timer!!!!!

I'm ok with another character being a bigger deal than an implant or a pill.

I'm ok with another character being a bigger deal than an implant or a pill.

Any changes for the rorqual yet?

Can't be used inside a PoS-field and having to deploay it for boostings makes the boost-bonus rather.. dumb?

For the most part I like the changes, and the update.. Bringing back a reason to actually train the Command Ships Skill is very nice, as without it the only people who would train it would be those that fly Slep's lol.

I want to see a reduction in the nerf to Skirmish, specifically Interdiction Maneuvers.. I've read some of the complains, and I accept them, but it seems the biggest reason for the nerf is how much they bonus things like Recon ships, giving them crazy range.. And I agree, those ranges are nuts, but I don't see why to fix that you need to punish all the other ships..

Give a slight nerf to the ships that have web and scram range bonuses.. combined with a smaller nerf over all to the link.. That, or provide a slight boost to the modules themselves to add an extra km or so in range to makeup for the nerf, AND to help those without boosts be a little better..


Also, I do agree with the complaint that the link is more important than the hull.. I'd rather see the buff to links on the CS be increased a lot, and the mindlink itself reduced.. At least make them even.. There should be no case, NONE, where a T1 BS even with the link should provide better boosts than a T2 CS without.. at best they should be on par..

Fozzie, does the navy version of Mindlinks will have also the static bonus (i.e. the shield HP bonus of siege warefare mindlink, etc...) of one or both warafare types?