Mining links should not be given special treatment...

Give them an ORE battlecruiser size ship to run links on or something but to let them run links inside shield is pretty lame.

Orca and rorqual ARE the industry booster ships. Its a shame that CCP is holding their hand over them. booster is booster.

How about if you needed to activate triage on your carrier just to give max boost. Sounds good to me.

I have never seen a carrier with a booster fitted...
I dont even...

All defensive (Siege and Armored) links:
T1: 4.8%
T2: 6%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 25.9%
Former max bonus: 35%

Information Warfare: Electronic Superiority bonuses to ECM and Target Painters:
T1: 6.4%
T2: 8%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 34.5%
Former max bonus: 35%

Information Warfare: Electronic Superiority bonuses to Tracking Disruptors and Sensor Damps:
T1: 4%
T2: 5%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 21.5%
Former max bonus: 21%

Information Warfare: Recon Operation:
T1: 6.4%
T2: 8%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 34.5%
Former max bonus: 35%

Information Warfare: Sensor Integrity:
T1: 9.6%
T2: 12%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 51.75%
Former max bonus: 53%

Skirmish Warfare: Evasive Maneuvers:
T1: 6.4%
T2: 8%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 34.5%
Former max bonus: 35%

Skirmish Warfare: Interdiction Maneuvers:
T1: 7.2%
T2: 9%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 38.8%
Former max bonus: 53%

Skirmish Warfare: Rapid Deployment:
T1: 5.6%
T2: 7%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 30.2%
Former max bonus: 35%

Mining Foreman: Laser Optimization and Harvester Capacitor
T1: 5%
T2: 7.5%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 42.2%
Former max bonus: 42.2%

Mining Foreman: Field Enhancement
T1: 13.6%
T2: 17%
Max bonus per link with all modifiers: 95.7%
Former max bonus: 95%

Do you know what makes these modules similar?
- Triage Module I
- Siege Module I
- Industrial Core I

Ok now I got you.

These numbers are not very descriptive btw.

An incursus Atm does NOT get a 35% boost to its active tanking from links right now.. It gets over 100%

This nerf does virtually nothing. Links are still about three times as powerful as they should be.

To put them into perspective, the current boosts increase the rep power of an incursus about 125% (or less depending on your fit, as gang links and modules and rigs can all suffer stacking penalties).

With the change, the max armor boosts will increase your incursus' rep power by about 70%. (or less depending on stacking penalties).

This is a significant reduction, but it is still more powerful than anything you can get by drugs or even pirate implants. IMO, that means, since they can be provided while off grid, they are still too potent!

Now, we all know how much fozzie hates PvE, especially high end stuff like Incursions. He thinks that everyone who plays this game should have a moon goo income, or not play at all.

But he has really outdone himself.
At first run-through with the numbers, I am seeing roughly a 21% reduction in repping power for armour tankers when factoring in both the nerf to resists and to raw amour repping.

That will kill the elite armour fleets, more than likely the same for elite shield fleets, and I have no clue what the ship comp will have to change to handle the Mom's.
Will Incursions still be run, yes, or course (at least until OGB's are killed).

But the income/hour just got hammered, for the 5th time (yes, the 5th time. As Ripard Teg stated, soundwave initiated a quadruple nerf last time in his effort to destroy incursions) .

And of course, all you forum warriors backed by moon goo incomes are going to say "Yay! Kill Incursions!"

C.) CCP should balance ship stats and mechanics around Player vs Player interactions. They can then nerf or improve NPC stats to make your PvE content viable again.

Now, we all know how much fozzie hates PvE, especially high end stuff like Incursions. He thinks that everyone who plays this game should have a moon goo income, or not play at all.

But he has really outdone himself.
At first run-through with the numbers, I am seeing roughly a 21% reduction in repping power for armour tankers when factoring in both the nerf to resists and to raw amour repping.

That will kill the elite armour fleets, more than likely the same for elite shield fleets, and I have no clue what the ship comp will have to change to handle the Mom's.
Will Incursions still be run, yes, or course (at least until OGB's are killed).

But the income/hour just got hammered, for the 5th time (yes, the 5th time. As Ripard Teg stated, soundwave initiated a quadruple nerf last time in his effort to destroy incursions) .

And of course, all you forum warriors backed by moon goo incomes are going to say "Yay! Kill Incursions!"

These numbers are not very descriptive btw.

An incursus Atm does NOT get a 35% boost to its active tanking from links right now.. It gets over 100%

This nerf does virtually nothing. Links are still about three times as powerful as they should be.


Edit: I find that my posting hasn't described well enough how mad i am at this half assed excuse of a nerf.

This doesn't even come close to fixing this **** and the numbers you give out are all smoke and mirrors to anyone that doesn't really understand how links works. Just GRRR.

We do intend to move mining links out of force fields someday, but we'll want to rebalanced the Orca and Rorqual first to make putting them on grid more viable first.

Damnation:
Amarr Battlecruiser skill bonuses:
4% bonus to all Armor Resistances
10% bonus to Heavy Assault Missile and Heavy Missile velocity
Command Ships skill bonuses:
10% bonus to all Armor hitpoints
10% bonus to Heavy Assault Missile and Heavy Missile damage (Was link bonus)
Fixed Bonus:
Can fit up to three Warfare Link modules, 15% bonus to strength of Armored Warfare and Information Warfare links
Slot layout: 7 H, 4 M, 6 L , 2 turrets (-2), 5 Launchers
Fittings: 1300(-290) PWG, 500(+25) CPU <--- here is the herf
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 3500(+37) / 5000(+395) / 4300(-24)
Base shield resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 0 / 20 / 70 / 87.5
Base armor resistances (EM/Therm/Kin/Exp): 50 / 35 / 62.5 / 80
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / average cap per second): 3375 / 750s / 4.5
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 150 / 0.7(-0.004) / 13500000 / 13.10s(-0.08)
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 50 (+25) / 100 (+75)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 70km (+20) / 210 / 7(+1)
Sensor strength: 22 Radar (+6)
Signature radius: 265
Cargo capacity: 645


so this means that with your so called fitting buff with the 100 powergrid reduction per module really means that a damnation only get another 10 powergrid total. nice ninja nerf there butt heads.
could you not stop the sugar coating nerfs please have the balls to stand by the crap your body ( the company ) makes and stop with the politically correct terms call a donkey by its proper name an A + double SS

ps this forum NEEED a dislike post botton SO bad

Their numbers are ******* wrong and ******** anyways. Crosspoast from FHC:

The following are all Lvl 5s and no implants:

My Incursus without Legion links: 5k EHP, 89 DPS Tank from AAR
My Incursus with Legion links: 7k EHP, 205 DPS Tank from AAR

That's a 40% bonus in EHP and 130% bonus in active tank. That's ridiculous. I could see 10% bonus in EHP and 25% bonus in active tank.

My condor without Loki links: 24km point range, 3618m/s velocity
My condor with Loki links:36.7km point range, 4705m/s velocity

That's a 53% bonus in point range and 30% bonus in velocity. Keeping it real yo.

My Hawk without Tengu links: 6.3k EHP, 189 DPS Tank
My Hawk with Tengu links: 8.7k EHP, 411 DPS Tank

That's a 39% bonus in EHP and 120% bonus in active tank. I've got a DPS tank higher than any frig/dessie can even output.

Links are so overpowered the concept of fighting without them is alien to us.
This isn't "We have a 10% edge on tanks thanks to HERO ITSMEHCK in the Damnation!"
This is "We have a 30% bonus in EHP and a 100% bonus in reps thanks to ::RANDOM COWARD ALT:: sitting in a safe somewhere in system."
******** game mechanic is ********. I haven't lost an Incursus in weeks because nothing I engage can kill me. It's awesome.

Dear CCP,

I cant say i like these changes as i believe this always will benefit the larger gangs. The problem with links is the fact they exist.

Please reconsider.

I suggest just deleting links from game completely and reimbursing the SP. That way no one needs whine the other fleet has links, the smaller fleet wont get raped by the gang fielding a mass of logi to protect their command ship.

Everyone is happy.

Thanks.