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F'nog	Posted - 2005.12.19 07:27:00 - [1] Sorry if I missed this in all the whining posts, but when will T2 BPOs be seeded to agents? My Starship agent still shows "nothing predictable" and we all know that's untrue since there's 5 or so per race. Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
Zyrla Bladestorm	Posted - 2005.12.19 08:04:00 - [2] I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. . ----- Apologies for any rambling that may have just occurred.
F'nog	Posted - 2005.12.19 08:23:00 - [3] Possilby, though AFAIK they were immediately seeded after RMR. Of course, that went more smoothly than this. Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
Maggot	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:37:00 - [4] Normally the new bpos dont get seeded until about a week after each patch.

Oveur	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:38:00 - [5] Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. Senior Producer EVE Online

Avon	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:42:00 - [6] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. It is terrible to hear that the Devs are still suffering from this unbearable workload. In a gesture of seasonal goodwill, I will do the BPO seeding for you. Just escrow all the nice new juicy BPO's to me, and I'll dish them out to all the good little boys and girls. You can trust me. ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Jim Steele	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:42:00 - [7] Originally by: Oveur Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. Cheers Oveur you are one sexy man Author of "The Apoc Guide"

Oveur	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:44:00 - [8] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. It is terrible to hear that the Devs are still suffering from this unbearable workload. In a gesture of seasonal goodwill, I will do the BPO seeding for you. Just escrow all the nice new juicy BPO's to me, and I'll dish them out to all the good little boys and girls. You can trust me. Now why didn't I think of that before! Senior Producer EVE Online

TheOnyx	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:52:00 - [9] LOL !
Aelius	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:54:00 - [10] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. \o/ BTW When is the Tech2 Auction using RP's is due to come out?

Thomus	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:57:00 - [11] Are we talking about T2 BPOs like the T2 Barges?!? and the tech 1 bpo for Mining Upgrades and all the other 'needful things for mining' - im trained up and ready for it already! :-D ---------------- Tom

Oveur	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:58:00 - [12] Originally by: Aelius Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. \o/ BTW When is the Tech2 Auction using RP's is due to come out? Well, the feedback on it has been quite good so I'm pretty sure we'll do it. We then have to start the logistics of it, put up a system to auction the stuff, which checks RP's of players and such. I'd say January being a good time to do it, we should have TQ back in the state we want it to be in by then (Which is performing better than Cold War). Senior Producer EVE Online

Tharrn	Posted - 2005.12.19 09:59:00 - [13] Speaking of BPOs... you forgot to add some T1 BPOs like SW-600 webber drones. Guess it has even lower priority but please don't forget totally again ;) ------------------------------------------------------
Sybylle	Posted - 2005.12.19 10:39:00 - [14] Originally by: Oveur I'd say January being a good time to do it That would be one of the greatest feature addition IMHO ^^ Can you please specify which year? Site ICE is coming to EveÖ since 335169 AD Image oversized, please take a look at the forum rules - Laqum
Aelius	Posted - 2005.12.19 10:46:00 - [15] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Aelius Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. \o/ BTW When is the Tech2 Auction using RP's is due to come out? Well, the feedback on it has been quite good so I'm pretty sure we'll do it. We then have to start the logistics of it, put up a system to auction the stuff, which checks RP's of players and such. I'd say January being a good time to do it, we should have TQ back in the state we want it to be in by then (Which is performing better than Cold War). Tks for the info Oveur. I think my 700K RP's in CSE are going to be of some use then, i hope to be one of the top bidders if you don't stack RP's between players. Staking agents RP's (same field) on the same char would be fine by me
Mnengli Noiliffe	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:12:00 - [16] Please also consider seeding missing Drone Navigation Computer I and Combat Drone Turret Stabilizer I bpos, and add Drone Upgrade mods with " I" in their name to the market.
Ganjaman	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:14:00 - [17] Edited by: Ganjaman on 19/12/2005 11:14:35 So where do I get my hands on elite barge bpos? Are they sold by ORE like before (the t1), or do ORE suddenly get R&D agents?
gubble flob	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:16:00 - [18] Originally by: Aelius Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Aelius Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. \o/ BTW When is the Tech2 Auction using RP's is due to come out? Well, the feedback on it has been quite good so I'm pretty sure we'll do it. We then have to start the logistics of it, put up a system to auction the stuff, which checks RP's of players and such. I'd say January being a good time to do it, we should have TQ back in the state we want it to be in by then (Which is performing better than Cold War). Tks for the info Oveur. I think my 700K RP's in CSE are going to be of some use then, i hope to be one of the top bidders if you don't stack RP's between players. Staking agents RP's (same field) on the same char would be fine by me 700k is nothing, i got over 2 mill rp in CSE between 2 chars with 6 agents each.
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:18:00 - [19] ORE getting R and D agents would be a good idea - is it auction or lottery this time round ? T2 BPCs for the barges instead of the t2 BPOS would be a better idea many more producers some price competition. Having some ore agents in low sec - high sec ? CCP please restore the recruitment channel
Avon	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:20:00 - [20] I'm making a list. I'm checking it twice. I'm going to find out who's naughty or nice. Avon Claus is comming to Eve. ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur

Brannigan McCormick	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:22:00 - [21] Originally by: Tharrn Speaking of BPOs... you forgot to add some T1 BPOs like SW-600 webber drones. Guess it has even lower priority but please don't forget totally again ;) I can confirm this, only 22 of the 24 new drone BPOs (T1) are seeded. /Bran - Its good for you
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:23:00 - [22] Originally by: Avon I'm making a list. I'm checking it twice. I'm going to find out who's naughty or nice. Avon Claus is comming to Eve. Sorry dude, I lost the Freighter, and the shipment of coal. Better luck next year I guess... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
sci0gon	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:24:00 - [23] its obvious there going to be overpriced anyway. any idea exactly how many copies are being released ???
Avon	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:28:00 - [24] Originally by: Bhaal Sorry dude, I lost the Freighter, and the shipment of coal. Better luck next year I guess... ...puts Bhaal on naughty list... ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
babyblue	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:30:00 - [25] Anyone have a link to any theory on T2 auction with RP's? For example, can corporations or alliances pool RP's, or is it down to individual players? Can players trade RP's for ISK? etc. When I heard the word Auction, I thought okay, some great lumbering corp with 1/2 trillion ISK can bid up and win everything, but if it's RP's on a single player basis, then thats a little different. But then again, I'm sure I'll never have enough RP's to beat the real mission *****s who play every day of the week with 12 characters. So, whats the deal with this?
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:32:00 - [26] Originally by: sci0gon its obvious there going to be overpriced anyway. any idea exactly how many copies are being released ??? It's an auction, ppl only have so many RP's... So it will favor those who have not been lucky in the lottery, and have ammased an assload of RP's... Which is a good thing IMO... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Miri Tirzan	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:34:00 - [27] Avon, It is a great thing your offering to do to help the devs. I want to follow your example and asist you in handing out the BPOs. svetlana - "whining gets you stuff. that is why humans got to the top of the food chain and all the other animals got nerfed."
Maggot	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:48:00 - [28] Originally by: Bhaal Originally by: sci0gon its obvious there going to be overpriced anyway. any idea exactly how many copies are being released ??? It's an auction, ppl only have so many RP's... So it will favor those who have not been lucky in the lottery, and have ammased an assload of RP's... Which is a good thing IMO... Thats a damn good point.
Wrayeth	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:51:00 - [29] Oveur ftw! Thanks for the info - here's to hoping my measly 10,000 RP in rocket science will pay off, this time. ;) -Wrayeth Go away.
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:53:00 - [30] well counts me out ill just keep stockpiling and selling these R.A.M chips that will be needed make a killing that way then buy a t2 BPO off escrow CCP please restore the recruitment channel

Aelius	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:55:00 - [31] Originally by: gubble flob Originally by: Aelius Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Aelius Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. \o/ BTW When is the Tech2 Auction using RP's is due to come out? Well, the feedback on it has been quite good so I'm pretty sure we'll do it. We then have to start the logistics of it, put up a system to auction the stuff, which checks RP's of players and such. I'd say January being a good time to do it, we should have TQ back in the state we want it to be in by then (Which is performing better than Cold War). Tks for the info Oveur. I think my 700K RP's in CSE are going to be of some use then, i hope to be one of the top bidders if you don't stack RP's between players. Staking agents RP's (same field) on the same char would be fine by me 700k is nothing, i got over 2 mill rp in CSE between 2 chars with 6 agents each. Hummm, considering i have 4 agents top level 3 giving around 270 RP's per day since they lanched R&D agents your numbers should be right. 4 agents in CSE with 175K RP's = 700K RP's so 6175 = 1.05M 2 chars = around 2M. That is a good number you have there, BUT, if they don't stack agents we will be on the same bidding Lv
Anst Yorsen	Posted - 2005.12.19 11:57:00 - [32] Edited by: Anst Yorsen on 19/12/2005 11:57:26 nm
Avon	Posted - 2005.12.19 12:05:00 - [33] Originally by: Miri Tirzan Avon, It is a great thing your offering to do to help the devs. I want to follow your example and asist you in handing out the BPOs. Great! You can hold my sack whilst I slip my package in to people's stockings. ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Wrayeth	Posted - 2005.12.19 12:07:00 - [34] Originally by: Avon Great! You can hold my sack whilst I slip my package in to people's stockings. That's a nasty foot fetish you have there, Avon. -Wrayeth Go away.
Bhaal	Posted - 2005.12.19 12:17:00 - [35] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Miri Tirzan Avon, It is a great thing your offering to do to help the devs. I want to follow your example and asist you in handing out the BPOs. Great! You can hold my sack whilst I slip my package in to people's stockings. I wouldn't want the job of holding Avon's sack... ------------------------------------------------ Current Hobby other than EVE
Solacia	Posted - 2005.12.19 12:24:00 - [36] Is there any word about what happened to the mining upgrades bpo/skills as well as the mining related leadership skills? Will these be added along with the tech 2 bpo's being seeded or are they somthig that still needs debugged and added later?
The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.12.19 13:02:00 - [37] The new T2 BPO's weren't put in today -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.
Ebedar	Posted - 2005.12.19 13:14:00 - [38] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Miri Tirzan Avon, It is a great thing your offering to do to help the devs. I want to follow your example and asist you in handing out the BPOs. Great! You can hold my sack whilst I slip my package in to people's stockings. Is it true that some people were so delighted with what you have in your sack that you could see it all over their faces? One Step Further
Avon	Posted - 2005.12.19 13:32:00 - [39] Originally by: Ebedar Originally by: Avon Great! You can hold my sack whilst I slip my package in to people's stockings. Is it true that some people were so delighted with what you have in your sack that you could see it all over their faces? Come again? Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, it is true. Every year I manage to distribute the delights contained within my sack all around the world, and in just one evening. My efforts can not only be seen on people's faces, quite often they penetrate their very being. ______________________________________________ The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Blydchyld	Posted - 2005.12.19 13:36:00 - [40] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Ebedar Originally by: Avon Great! You can hold my sack whilst I slip my package in to people's stockings. Is it true that some people were so delighted with what you have in your sack that you could see it all over their faces? Come again? Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, it is true. Every year I manage to distribute the delights contained within my sack all around the world, and in just one evening. My efforts can not only be seen on people's faces, quite often they penetrate their very being. you should try a job as a mail man, people wait for days for you to push open their mailbox flap and put the produce of your malebag in. Must be nice to get a big heavy sack in the morning and empty it into peoples houses everyday! I LIKE ARK! The above post is my post and does not represent the views of any entity, If my views have upset you PM me

Blydchyld	Posted - 2005.12.19 13:36:00 - [41] Originally by: Avon Originally by: Ebedar Originally by: Avon Great! You can hold my sack whilst I slip my package in to people's stockings. Is it true that some people were so delighted with what you have in your sack that you could see it all over their faces? Come again? Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, it is true. Every year I manage to distribute the delights contained within my sack all around the world, and in just one evening. My efforts can not only be seen on people's faces, quite often they penetrate their very being. you should try a job as a mail man, people wait for days for you to push open their mailbox flap and put the produce of your malebag in. Must be nice to get a big heavy sack in the morning and empty it into peoples houses everyday! I LIKE ARK! The above post is my post and does not represent the views of any entity, If my views have upset you PM me
F'nog	Posted - 2005.12.19 21:32:00 - [42] Wow, not one but THREE replies from the big guy himself in my own thread. Thanks for the info, Oveur. Originally by: rowbin hod Fragm's Oversized Ego Cannon barely scratches the forums, inflicting omgnoonecares damage.
woodman az	Posted - 2005.12.20 00:15:00 - [43] Is this acution thing above and beyond the normal lottery or in place of? ( I hope not since I just started R&D. Proud member of the 2
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.12.20 01:17:00 - [44] I'm really praying here, 400K RP in CSE isn't that much, but I can still pray with all of me' poor little 'eart.
Aelius	Posted - 2005.12.20 09:24:00 - [45] Originally by: Oveur Originally by: Zyrla Bladestorm I gather seeding the lottery is a dev job that can take a little time, and after most big patches it gets left as a low priority and done when they have the major kinks worked out. Now seeing as they have a few more kinks than usual plus the dev I believe is likely the responsible one (PapaSmurf) is listed in the blog as working himself to death on the server code .. ehm it might be a little while this time heh. Yes, we are quite busy fixing bugs right now, first we had to address the crash bugs, now we're addressing the performance bugs which are causing TQ to be unplayable in a number of systems. We estimate them to be seeded today or tomorrow the latest. So i guess new ships hit tranquility TODAY
Humera	Posted - 2005.12.20 09:35:00 - [46] Ok, so seeding might happen today. What particular BPO are you guys hoping to snag? Humera
Jowen Datloran	Posted - 2005.12.20 09:35:00 - [47] Originally by: woodman az Is this acution thing above and beyond the normal lottery or in place of? ( I hope not since I just started R&D. I can't be bothered to find the discussion link. But as far I remember the lottery will still be there. As eksample, for seeding 10 blueprint originals for the same item: 7 goes to the lottery, 3 goes to auction. ---------------- Main as main can be
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2005.12.20 09:41:00 - [48] Well, some t2 ammo BPO would be nice. Or any ship, really. What about cargo expander II?
SengH	Posted - 2005.12.20 09:43:00 - [49] the Cargo expander II BPO is gonna make quite a few ppl their own personal titans...
Seleene	Posted - 2005.12.20 10:28:00 - [50] Originally by: SengH the Cargo expander II BPO is gonna make quite a few ppl their own personal titans... Can you imagine being away from your computer for seven days and missing the eve mail for this?? - The REAL Eve Political Map!

CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 10:31:00 - [51] i think during holidays they get out for 2 weeks not one.... is it real that if you dont do mission on them for over a week ... they get Inactive and they dont get in BPO lotery? ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Crayathan	Posted - 2005.12.20 10:36:00 - [52] Originally by: Seleene Originally by: SengH the Cargo expander II BPO is gonna make quite a few ppl their own personal titans... Can you imagine being away from your computer for seven days and missing the eve mail for this?? /me cancels holiday now seleene has installed that thought Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil
Gavin Kineli	Posted - 2005.12.20 10:36:00 - [53] Originally by: CT BadIronTree i think during holidays they get out for 2 weeks not one.... is it real that if you dont do mission on them for over a week ... they get Inactive and they dont get in BPO lotery? No :-p All the mission does is add extra RP for that day.
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 10:53:00 - [54] so all the inactive acounts or trial people can get BPO to? ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Edison Frisk	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:02:00 - [55] Originally by: The Enslaver The new T2 BPO's weren't put in today You have enough mate, let someone else have one
Kerosene	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:09:00 - [56] Don't suppose you could shove anything in 'High Energy Physics' while you're at it? It's been over 18 months now since it wasn't 'Nothing Easily Predictable' Even if I don't win, at least there's a chance __ No corp - Taking it easy for a bit
Invisible Touch	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:13:00 - [57] So it's today after dt? GL everyone and remember keep the prices reasonable All of the above are personal views/opinions only and not that of my corp or/and alliance Every day we stand is another day for PA.
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:15:00 - [58] got my fingers crossed CCP please restore the recruitment channel
Serpensis	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:31:00 - [59] Avon 4tw, you got my vote :) (I seriously expect to wake up on christmas morning and find some juicy t2 bpos now that I have given you this vote of confidence ) -- "Fear accompanies the possibility of death, calm sheperds its certainty."
The Enslaver	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:32:00 - [60] Originally by: Edison Frisk Originally by: The Enslaver The new T2 BPO's weren't put in today You have enough mate, let someone else have one Neevaar -------- FireFoxx80: If you think you can do a better job, go find yourself a datacentre to host a box, get a copy of Visual Studio, and STFU.

Edison Frisk	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:44:00 - [61] Originally by: The Enslaver Originally by: Edison Frisk Originally by: The Enslaver The new T2 BPO's weren't put in today You have enough mate, let someone else have one Neevaar seriously tho, good luck man and to everyone else.
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 11:47:00 - [62] Edited by: CT BadIronTree on 20/12/2005 11:52:28 well lotery suck...!! random people geting free printing money suck me and many people in corp have milions in total on R&D agents and none have ever won a thing.... other close friends in other noob corps got one in 2 weeks of game play and thier corp have bilions and bilions now.... but corps like ours (that is the first and oldest) with history are stragling to make a bilion all because no tech 2 if tech 3 with kali is so f^% up i will cansel my 3 accounts and give the money and stuff to the poor... and delete them.. even with 35 milion SP ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Target	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:01:00 - [63] please god give me a BPO pleaseeeeeee Practise Target
Karmic	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:13:00 - [64] Where did I put my haxsploit button again - - - - - - - - -
Seleene	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:14:00 - [65] Originally by: Karmic Where did I put my haxsploit button again ^^ DEV ALERT!!! - The REAL Eve Political Map!
Bulletproof Cupid	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:24:00 - [66] Originally by: CT BadIronTree Edited by: CT BadIronTree on 20/12/2005 11:52:28 well lotery suck...!! random people geting free printing money suck me and many people in corp have milions in total on R&D agents and none have ever won a thing.... other close friends in other noob corps got one in 2 weeks of game play and thier corp have bilions and bilions now.... but corps like ours (that is the first and oldest) with history are stragling to make a bilion all because no tech 2 if tech 3 with kali is so f^% up i will cansel my 3 accounts and give the money and stuff to the poor... and delete them.. even with 35 milion SP ROFL, and once you have billions you will soon realise money dont make you happy -------------------------------------------------- PLACEBO I've always been an introvert, happily bleeding.
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:28:00 - [67] 300 seconds
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:30:00 - [68] i want to test if that is truw lol if i get bilions i will spend on making people happy :P ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:34:00 - [69] Edited by: Gamer4liff on 20/12/2005 12:36:20 Edited by: Gamer4liff on 20/12/2005 12:34:37 Ahhh, It's like a really bad joke.... lucky 55 people. I'm shakeing all over with anticipation I Can't log in
Sarafi	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:36:00 - [70] THEY BE SEEDED!!!

Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:40:00 - [71] Edited by: Gamer4liff on 20/12/2005 12:45:20 well I didn't win, anybody win anything yet? Oh well, Im going back to bed now
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:42:00 - [72] Edited by: CT BadIronTree on 20/12/2005 12:45:11 Arazu Blueprint, Astarte Blueprint, Lachesis Blueprint, Eos Blueprint, Hulk Blueprint, Skiff Blueprint, Mackinaw Blueprint, Eris Blueprint so they are in but will not drop any time soon.... the ammo is crazy Gremlin Rage Rocket Blueprint, Wrath Fury Cruise Missile Blueprint, Spike M Blueprint, Spike L Blueprint, Blaze M Blueprint, Blaze L Blueprint, Paradise Fury Cruise Missile Blueprint, Blaze S Blueprint, Thorn Rage Rocket Blueprint, Tremor S Blueprint, Phalanx Rage Rocket Blueprint, Cruise Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Thorn Javelin Rocket Blueprint, Thunderbolt Precision Heavy Missile Blueprint, Phalanx Javelin Rocket Blueprint, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile Blueprint, Rocket Launcher II Blueprint, Piranha Fury Light Missile Blueprint, Flameburst Fury Light Missile Blueprint, Wrath Precision Cruise Missile Blueprint, Sabretooth Fury Light Missile Blueprint, Piranha Precision Light Missile Blueprint, Sabretooth Precision Light Missile Blueprint, Havoc Fury Heavy Missile Blueprint, Juggernaut Rage Torpedo Blueprint, Cataclysm Fury Cruise Missile Blueprint, Widowmaker Fury Heavy Missile Blueprint, Gremlin Javelin Rocket Blueprint, Scourge Precision Heavy Missile Blueprint, Widowmaker Precision Heavy Missile Blueprint, Bloodclaw Precision Light Missile Blueprint, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile Blueprint, Thunderbolt Fury Heavy Missile Blueprint, Bane Rage Torpedo Blueprint, Foxfire Rage Rocket Blueprint, Spike S Blueprint, Mjolnir Rage Torpedo Blueprint, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Blueprint, Mjolnir Javelin Torpedo Blueprint, Barrage S Blueprint, Devastator Fury Cruise Missile Blueprint, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Blueprint, Assault Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Flameburst Precision Light Missile Blueprint, Devastator Precision Cruise Missile Blueprint, Paradise Precision Cruise Missile Blueprint, Tremor L Blueprint, Foxfire Javelin Rocket Blueprint, Havoc Precision Heavy Missile Blueprint, Tremor M Blueprint, Standard Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Barrage M Blueprint, Barrage L Blueprint, Heavy Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Juggernaut Javelin Torpedo Blueprint, Bane Javelin Torpedo Blueprint, Siege Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Inferno Rage Torpedo Blueprint LOL??? if i dont get atlist a rocket BPO i will be very very unlucly quadom Heat Dissipation Field II Blueprint, Null S Blueprint, Invulnerability Field II Blueprint, Blaze M Blueprint, Blaze L Blueprint, Null M Blueprint, Blaze S Blueprint, Null L Blueprint, Explosion Dampening Field II Blueprint, Ballistic Deflection Field II Blueprint, Photon Scattering Field II Blueprint high energy Quake M Blueprint, Blaze M Blueprint, Blaze L Blueprint, Conflagration M Blueprint, Aurora S Blueprint, Conflagration L Blueprint, Blaze S Blueprint, Conflagration S Blueprint, Aurora M Blueprint, Quake S Blueprint, Aurora L Blueprint, Quake L Blueprint and plasma Widowmaker Fury Heavy Missile Blueprint, Widowmaker Precision Heavy Missile Blueprint, Void S Blueprint, Void L Blueprint, Null S Blueprint, Foxfire Rage Rocket Blueprint, Blaze M Blueprint, Blaze L Blueprint, Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile Blueprint, Null M Blueprint, Blaze S Blueprint, Flameburst Fury Light Missile Blueprint, Inferno Javelin Torpedo Blueprint, Void M Blueprint, Flameburst Precision Light Missile Blueprint, Null L Blueprint, Inferno Rage Torpedo Blueprint, Cataclysm Fury Cruise Missile Blueprint, Foxfire Javelin Rocket Blueprint ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Tobius Moon	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:46:00 - [73] OK, well, there's a step in the right direction - "Predictable Patents" have been populated. still looking at what I might get for Christmas
Cypherous	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:47:00 - [74] anything new under mechanical engineering?
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 12:51:00 - [75] hybernet Nothing easily predictable. ??? and i cant find the one you asked for ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Silvero	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:00:00 - [76] The lottery was created by a dev with hangover. The BPO lottery is the single most unbalanced thing in eve, this is the only arena were a single player can turn multi billionarie over one night. He's not getting rich thru effort and teamwork, but simple by a random event. I say put an hold on the seeding of the new BPO's until the auction system are finished. BTW i don't have a single RP, this is just what i think are a better solution.
Helmut 314	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:08:00 - [77] Seems like Cargohold II wasnt seeded..... ___________________________________ Trying is the first step of failure - Homer J Simpson
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:09:00 - [78] and in the auction who will buy the BPO? Only the rich!!! that have got the money from the first BPOs so the poor will die poor ones again and they could not do anything to win the auction no ammount in eford, poor corp will never get them ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Rimhawk	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:10:00 - [79] Well I don't mind if the high-level BPO's are auctioned off, of course a lot of people trained a long time for that with research agents. But it would also be kind of nice if the non-ship T2 BPO's were still in a lottery. While I cannot hope to compete with serious researchers, it would add an element of chance/surprise to it in which everyone with a research agent could participate. Luck in getting a BPO should also be part of the game, it keeps things interested and allows people some hope as well. ;) Not that I'd mind getting a T2 ship BPO or even BPC mind you. ;) Rimhawk IX Technologies
Silvero	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:10:00 - [80] Edited by: Silvero on 20/12/2005 13:12:14 You are using your RP for auction, not isk. Meaning that the research group/team that are offering the most RP for an BPO will get it, and lose all the offered RP. Meaning that in the next auction the don't have jack to trow into the RP offering "unless" they can buy enough freelancing reserchers. ahhhhhh

Silvero	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:17:00 - [81] Don't understand at all why some ppl are pro lottery, this game is built around team play/PVP in every aspect. Why should this be diffrent, auction ftw. You might not have enough RP in person to accuire a BPO, so what team up with some friends, and get the BPO togheter and use shares according to what RP you put in. Or sell your RP to another research team.
Invisible Touch	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:35:00 - [82] So, were any bpos given today? I can see the predictable patents been updated. Anything else? All of the above are personal views/opinions only and not that of my corp or/and alliance Every day we stand is another day for PA.
MachZERO	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:37:00 - [83] Edited by: MachZERO on 20/12/2005 13:38:14 Just checked my minmatar agents and NO mining barges on my list. I'm wondering how a ship with no racial dependencies (other than build requirements) are not being seeded to all starship research agents regardless of race... Has this been a minor oversite?? --------------------------------------------- "Rang Rang" ---------------------------------------------
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:55:00 - [84] the mining ships are from ore that are gallende i think :) ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Tobius Moon	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:55:00 - [85] Originally by: MachZERO Edited by: MachZERO on 20/12/2005 13:38:14 Just checked my minmatar agents and NO mining barges on my list. I'm wondering how a ship with no racial dependencies (other than build requirements) are not being seeded to all starship research agents regardless of race... Has this been a minor oversite?? Gallentean Starship Engineering: Arazu Blueprint, Astarte Blueprint, Lachesis Blueprint, Eos Blueprint, Hulk Blueprint, Skiff Blueprint, Mackinaw Blueprint, Eris Blueprint Amarrian Starship Engineering: Absolution Blueprint, Damnation Blueprint, Curse Blueprint, Pilgrim Blueprint, Heretic Blueprint Caldari Starship Engineering: Rook Blueprint, Flycatcher Blueprint, Nighthawk Blueprint, Falcon Blueprint, Vulture Blueprint Looks like the Gallenteans made a deal with ORE to distribute in Empire. Or, it could just be a mistake.
Harisdrop	Posted - 2005.12.20 13:59:00 - [86] "Or, it could just be a mistake." Papa needs a new battleship. Giveme a new Tech II bpo!!!! -------------------------- Whats funny is your heard it.
Tobius Moon	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:00:00 - [87] Originally by: CT BadIronTree the mining ships are from ore that are gallende i think :) ORE A filthy rich corporation that disassociated itself from the Federation when it tried to encroach on the companies riches. ORE operates mainly in the Outer Ring and Cloud Ring regions, where they have mining installations scattered around in hidden locations, grinding out the most valuable minerals on the market. Outer Ring Excavations, or ORE, is the largest independent mining corporation around. ORE was originally a fledgling Gallentean company, but struck gold when they found extremely rich Nocxium asteroid belts in the Outer Ring region. When the Gallente Federation tried to force ORE to reveal the location of the asteroid fields the company left Gallentean space and set up base in the Outer Ring region. They used their massive wealth to buy protection for their bases and keep their operation secret. Several pirate factions have tried to muscle in on the ORE territories, but with little success.
Crayathan	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:02:00 - [88] Please father Christmas (Oveur) give me 7 ship bpo's for christmas. Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I fear no evil
Tobius Moon	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:24:00 - [89] Originally by: Cypherous anything new under mechanical engineering? I don't know what's new, but: Mechanical Engineering: Infiltrator II Blueprint, Wasp II Blueprint, Vespa II Blueprint, Rocket Launcher II Blueprint, Valkyrie II Blueprint, Hammerhead II Blueprint, Mining Drone II Blueprint, Ogre II Blueprint, Praetor II Blueprint, Hobgoblin II Blueprint, Cruise Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Acolyte II Blueprint, Hornet II Blueprint, Sleipnir Blueprint, Berserker II Blueprint, Sabre Blueprint, Huginn Blueprint, Rapier Blueprint, Claymore Blueprint, Assault Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Warrior II Blueprint, Standard Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Heavy Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Siege Missile Launcher II Blueprint, Ballistic Control System II Blueprint
Tophereon	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:30:00 - [90] Originally by: Gamer4liff I'm really praying here, 400K RP in CSE isn't that much, but I can still pray with all of me' poor little 'eart. Mate I got a Tach II with 9k rp!! So everyone has a chance!! ;) Toph.

violator2k5	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:43:00 - [91] how do you know when its possible to move from a lvl 1 agent to a lvl 2 agent for R n D ??
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:46:00 - [92] Originally by: violator2k5 how do you know when its possible to move from a lvl 1 agent to a lvl 2 agent for R n D ?? never you can but you lose your RP what they said is to move LP from normal agents ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
violator2k5	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:55:00 - [93] im currently working a alt up to get RP and so far shes got 35 RP together from a lvl 1 -18 agent, it isnt much as you can see. if i had the skills could i just jump her to a lvl 4 agent straight away??
HippoKing	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:59:00 - [94] /huggles his rocket science RP. please, oh please can i have precision cruise? Where is my I-win button, CCP?
Ruffio Sepico	Posted - 2005.12.20 14:59:00 - [95] Originally by: violator2k5 im currently working a alt up to get RP and so far shes got 35 RP together from a lvl 1 -18 agent, it isnt much as you can see. if i had the skills could i just jump her to a lvl 4 agent straight away?? You need standings to use the agents + the skills required of course. In most cases its about do missions, LOTS of missions to get that standing with the r&d agents corp. Home: http://www.hidden-agenda.co.uk
Tophereon	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:02:00 - [96] I wouldn't like that! :( I personally like the lottery system. Of course I am biasd because I was a winner. But apart from that, I like the way that EVE isn't a grind! Eve seems to have a lot of older players who have jobs and I think maturity of the player base is inpart due to the fact that you cannot grind your way through eve as much as other games. I understand that some people would like to be able to put in more effort in return for a greater chance of getting a BPO but that would mean less chance for those that cannot play 24/7. Toph.
Maggot	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:05:00 - [97] Originally by: violator2k5 how do you know when its possible to move from a lvl 1 agent to a lvl 2 agent for R n D ?? -show info on current agent -show info on corp of agent -select agents tab -browse down to R&D agents -list will show all that you can use -for those that you cannot yet use if you show info then it will tell you the requirements for accessing them. I would recommend that you keep on agent running until you can use at least level III. Use the connections skill.
BurnHard	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:12:00 - [98] ffs, some people with 400 - 800k RP's? How is it even possible to get that much? Have you been runnning those agents for years or something? Christ almighty.
Karmic	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:21:00 - [99] Multipul agents running starship engineering projects for a long while is the answer you are looking for. - - - - - - - - -
Harisdrop	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:22:00 - [100] Originally by: BurnHard ffs, some people with 400 - 800k RP's? How is it even possible to get that much? Have you been runnning those agents for years or something? Christ almighty. I have two Level 4 agents working on Rocket science since the day Level 4's where introduced. Dec of 2004... i have a level 3 Rocket science from may 2004 I did not get any launcher tech II soo I hope to get some missles!!! I have a Plasma agent from the day R&D and tech started back in 2003 dec. Still nothing from him ??? -------------------------- Whats funny is your heard it.

Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:33:00 - [101] Edited by: Gamer4liff on 20/12/2005 15:34:03 Originally by: BurnHard ffs, some people with 400 - 800k RP's? How is it even possible to get that much? Have you been runnning those agents for years or something? Christ almighty. With the right skills/standings/time amnything is possible! My only regret was not starting sooner
violator2k5	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:34:00 - [102] Originally by: Maggot -show info on current agent -show info on corp of agent -select agents tab -browse down to R&D agents -list will show all that you can use -for those that you cannot yet use if you show info then it will tell you the requirements for accessing them. I would recommend that you keep on agent running until you can use at least level III. Use the connections skill. thanx for the help.
Harisdrop	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:35:00 - [103] What is funny is I still believe its agent based and corp based and not totally RP. I am testing it this time around. I will see if its true? -------------------------- Whats funny is your heard it.
KIAHicks	Posted - 2005.12.20 15:48:00 - [104] Edited by: KIAHicks on 20/12/2005 15:50:24 Originally by: babyblue Anyone have a link to any theory on T2 auction with RP's? For example, can corporations or alliances pool RP's, or is it down to individual players? Can players trade RP's for ISK? etc. When I heard the word Auction, I thought okay, some great lumbering corp with 1/2 trillion ISK can bid up and win everything, but if it's RP's on a single player basis, then thats a little different. But then again, I'm sure I'll never have enough RP's to beat the real mission ***s who play every day of the week with 12 characters. So, whats the deal with this? I personally hope they release BP's two at a time, one in a group auction and one in a single bid per player auction. So those that play the game as a group can pool their rp's and get the bp albeit for a lot more rp cost. Those that enjoy playing the game without a corp or just want to compete by themselves, get to bid off in the per player auction. edit: Just in case it wasn't clear. Anyone in a corp or alliance should be able to add points to the group fund. Those same players could also compete in the single player auctions, but they'd might have less rp's available than usual due to their group donations. Keenon: "After sitting in the system for FIVE** hours without even a (go away)"...
Morke	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:01:00 - [105] Originally by: Tophereon Mate I got a Tach II with 9k rp!! So everyone has a chance!! ;) Toph. I've heared of a guy winning with 3,4k rp. I thought I'd have a good chance with 14k rp, but now that I found out there are people with up to 1 million rp, i'm feeing frustrated again. More even because sometimes the giveout doesnt seem fair. There are people that have half a dozen bpo's and many more that have not won any. I feel that the chance of someone winning again should be decreased, at least for some time. If he wins again, the chance should again be decreased... That way some don't get all the goodies while some don't get any.
MachZERO	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:03:00 - [106] Originally by: Harisdrop What is funny is I still believe its agent based and corp based and not totally RP. I am testing it this time around. I will see if its true? I have my suspicions about the whole "lottery" system too... Seems there are alot of ppl with over 400k rp's that turn up empty handed time and time again... Lets hope the rp auction method works a bit better. --------------------------------------------- "Rang Rang" ---------------------------------------------
Kaaii	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:08:00 - [107] Originally by: Morke Originally by: Tophereon Mate I got a Tach II with 9k rp!! So everyone has a chance!! ;) Toph. I've heared of a guy winning with 3,4k rp. I thought I'd have a good chance with 14k rp, but now that I found out there are people with up to 1 million rp, i'm feeing frustrated again. More even because sometimes the giveout doesnt seem fair. There are people that have half a dozen bpo's and many more that have not won any. I feel that the chance of someone winning again should be decreased, at least for some time. If he wins again, the chance should again be decreased... That way some don't get all the goodies while some don't get any. I know someone that one with 62 rps... While i applaude his godlike luck, I too would like to see a little more "weight" in the award calculations. I belive in random acts of the unbeliveable, I just don't have any first hand knowledge... "..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
BurnHard	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:14:00 - [108] Originally by: Kaaii I know someone that one with 62 rps... While i applaude his godlike luck, I too would like to see a little more "weight" in the award calculations. I belive in random acts of the unbeliveable, I just don't have any first hand knowledge... I agree, it is rather godlike. If CCP are using the SQL server random function, it is also not random at all, but knowable a-priori (provided we know the seed). By the way, I would rather stand with 1,000 sheep than fall with a single lion. Especially in this rather cold weather.
Kaaii	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:15:00 - [109] Originally by: BurnHard Originally by: Kaaii I know someone that one with 62 rps... While i applaude his godlike luck, I too would like to see a little more "weight" in the award calculations. I belive in random acts of the unbeliveable, I just don't have any first hand knowledge... I agree, it is rather godlike. If CCP are using the SQL server random function, it is also not random at all, but knowable a-priori (provided we know the seed). By the way, I would rather stand with 1,000 sheep than fall with a single lion. Especially in this rather cold weather. I live in Florida ... "..Id rather fall beside 10 lions, than stand with One thousand sheep.."
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:19:00 - [110] a guy in a friendly corp that got the XLshield booster had 110 RP was a noob and only 1 week in the corp (now the corp is a bilioner) that make me more sad :( ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------

Aelius	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:26:00 - [111] 2005.12.20 12:36 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patentable Cataclysm Fury Cruise Missile Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested. \o/ that makes the 7th Tech2 BPO so far
Maggot	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:28:00 - [112] Winners already have their probability of winning again reduced as their RPs are removed from that agent. Having some kind of luck equalisation factor is clearly nuts - what kind of nanny state do you live in ;)
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:29:00 - [113] Edited by: Gamer4liff on 20/12/2005 16:36:09 Originally by: Aelius 2005.12.20 12:36 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patentable Cataclysm Fury Cruise Missile Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested. \o/ that makes the 7th Tech2 BPO so far Congrats, hopefully my day will come soon as well! ... I would be happy with just 1
Harisdrop	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:31:00 - [114] looking forward to being home tonight!!!! -------------------------- Whats funny is your heard it.
Insane Damage	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:34:00 - [115] People on here with their 7th t2 bpo, this is just ridiculous. People who already have t2 bpo's keep getting more and people without any don't get one from the lottery. Take NAGA corp for example, i bet they got 3 or 4 t2 bpo's at least today on top of the dozens they already own.
Tophereon	Posted - 2005.12.20 16:41:00 - [116] A lot of naga's blueprints are not owned by naga. They had the forsight to offer a great deal to those that were unable to build from there own bpos. They are fair, honest and have built up a great reputation. That is why they are rich, nothing to do with the lottery. Toph.
Edison Frisk	Posted - 2005.12.20 17:10:00 - [117] Originally by: Aelius 2005.12.20 12:36 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patentable Cataclysm Fury Cruise Missile Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested. \o/ that makes the 7th Tech2 BPO so far wOOt congrats man!
CT BadIronTree	Posted - 2005.12.20 17:24:00 - [118] Originally by: Aelius 2005.12.20 12:36 Our research has been fruitful. If you're interested, I believe we could have a patentable Cataclysm Fury Cruise Missile Blueprint. Contact me as soon as possible if you're interested. \o/ that makes the 7th Tech2 BPO so far congraz one other friend in other corp got an armor harder for kinetic 1 hour ago i want one toooo ============================================ Colossus Technologies The first and oldest corp in eve! BadIronTree Head of Production CSM Chat Log September 25, 2003: Fuhry> Some things we simply cannot test, and therefore we just put it on Tranq. cross our fingers and then get into panic mode. --------------------------------------- playing (or beta testing)since Sat, 2 Nov 2002 16:06 (beta 5) ---------------------------------------
Caesium	Posted - 2005.12.20 18:26:00 - [119] are they released over time or all in one shot?
Harisdrop	Posted - 2005.12.20 18:28:00 - [120] if you dont have one now you might get a rejected tech II bpo someone who does not login by next week. -------------------------- Whats funny is your heard it.

Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2005.12.20 18:39:00 - [121] Originally by: Caesium are they released over time or all in one shot? Overtime. ------------------
Alvara	Posted - 2005.12.20 18:43:00 - [122] Originally by: Harisdrop if you dont have one now you might get a rejected tech II bpo someone who does not login by next week. I hope your wrong. after going home and looking, if you have a rocket science ra, then you have a high chance of getting a T2 BPO. quite a few different ones being given out through them. If your like me and bet on nanite and molecular engineering, we almost have no chance. sighs And I didn't see any giving out Cargo Expander 2 BPO's so they didn't make it in this patch, like it was stated in a Q&A session a while back.
Alvara	Posted - 2005.12.20 18:44:00 - [123] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Caesium are they released over time or all in one shot? Overtime. crosses numerous fingers and toes I only have around 30k RP's across 8 agents. none starship.
sonofollo	Posted - 2005.12.20 18:47:00 - [124] all mine are in the cheaper non starship engineering areas - ie gravitron psychics and areas like that fingers crossed Im a happy little camper now - CCP 4tw.
Happysin	Posted - 2005.12.20 18:48:00 - [125] Originally by: HippoKing /huggles his rocket science RP. please, oh please can i have precision cruise? Boo! I thought I was the only person quirky enough to go for Rocket Science. Gah, why do I have to be at work?
Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.12.20 18:53:00 - [126] Let us all gather around and pray that we win the BPO lottery. Let us all pray to the gods of CCP, Hammer, Oveur, Tux, Kieron, And all of the lesser GM deieties. Let us pray that wayward BPO's find their ways into the hands of the deserving, and let us pray that each and every person gets what they deserve, Amen
Bogieman	Posted - 2005.12.21 06:01:00 - [127] Edited by: Bogieman on 21/12/2005 06:02:56 OMG please please...stop. Okay. Take a breath. Uhmn Yes. I too, want what I have been working hard for and researching. But as it stands... Nadda...Nadda damn thing! I have 3 lvl 4's and 1 lvl 2 agent...Do I have a chance in hell? YEP! Congrats to those who have won...heres good luck to those who earned it...and please let me have a good eve-mail when I get off work!
Kipkruide	Posted - 2005.12.21 08:01:00 - [128] Well the nice thing about the lottery is that everyone has a chance to win, choosing a non-popular research field increases your chances to win by much more then doing missions though.
Tomas Nuerin	Posted - 2005.12.21 08:28:00 - [129] Edited by: Tomas Nuerin on 21/12/2005 08:29:25 I can see my future. I'm going for two weeks vacation (sunny Brazil, here I come ) in january. After I come back I have mail waiting from my R&D agent. But quess what. The breakdown (Wrath or Cataclysm Precision Cruise Missile) was in my first week of vacation and BPO has already been seeded again. I hate that already
Alvara	Posted - 2005.12.21 15:04:00 - [130] I sometimes wonder just how BPO's get offered to characters that are no longer played or looked at. Then I start hoping that non paid accts stop accumulating RP's and aren't eligible for the lottery. It would really suck if a BPO could be offered to such characters, and that they sit on that char for a week, before being offered to yet another old character. etc.

James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.12.21 15:16:00 - [131] 400 electronic engineering rps. Well, maybe I'll get lucky :). -- Lyrus Associates is recruiting
mahhy	Posted - 2005.12.21 15:26:00 - [132] I won with 5k RPs on a level 2 agent
Sales Merchant	Posted - 2005.12.21 15:26:00 - [133] Do you know what its like getting stuff for your agent every SINGLE day for the last couple of years and having nothing to show for it except being a couple of hundred million poorer than before? If nothing else ccp, please make reserach agents offer 100run t2 bpc's for lps so we dont feel like crap after every patch when we get nothing for our efforts.
Manwoman	Posted - 2005.12.21 15:45:00 - [134] Edited by: Manwoman on 21/12/2005 15:44:46 Originally by: James Lyrus 400 electronic engineering rps. Well, maybe I'll get lucky :). ive got 5 agents in electronic engineering with 35,000 rp per agent and never had a bpo.
Imhotep Khem	Posted - 2005.12.21 18:58:00 - [135] Edited by: Imhotep Khem on 21/12/2005 18:59:21 How do you know when they are seeded? My agent claims to posses Huginn, Rapier, Sleipnir, and Claymore and Sabre blueprints though I dont study that particular field of his. Does that mean they are seeded? Also correct me if Im wrong but doesent it seem like the highly valuable BPOs are given out in small numbers, but the cheap ones like T2 tracking enhancer are given out in high numbers? ____ If your not dyin' your not tryin'.
Alvara	Posted - 2005.12.21 21:05:00 - [136] Originally by: Imhotep Khem Edited by: Imhotep Khem on 21/12/2005 18:59:21 How do you know when they are seeded? My agent claims to posses Huginn, Rapier, Sleipnir, and Claymore and Sabre blueprints though I dont study that particular field of his. Does that mean they are seeded? Also correct me if Im wrong but doesent it seem like the highly valuable BPOs are given out in small numbers, but the cheap ones like T2 tracking enhancer are given out in high numbers? I've been told many a time that the devs have stated there are 20 of each T2 BPO released since they started it. Is this true, I bet it is, since you can't really tell whats valuable or not before its released. Cap Recharger 2 is a good example of that.
Gangsta Boo	Posted - 2005.12.21 22:02:00 - [137] Originally by: Manwoman Edited by: Manwoman on 21/12/2005 15:44:46 Originally by: James Lyrus 400 electronic engineering rps. Well, maybe I'll get lucky :). ive got 5 agents in electronic engineering with 35,000 rp per agent and never had a bpo. That's about what I had when I finally landed a valkyrie II BPO. So here's hoping for you.
Xune	Posted - 2005.12.21 22:44:00 - [138] Edited by: Xune on 21/12/2005 22:44:53 Edited by: Xune on 21/12/2005 22:43:53 7 agents here.. since r/d start and not a single bpo.. and then you read people like in this threat. Quote: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=265370 where a couple of people got MULTIPLE bpo¦s... thats so plain wrong.. Ovour can we please have a statment on that ? do you still want to tell us evrything is alright with the bpo lottery ?
Archbishop	Posted - 2005.12.22 03:49:00 - [139] One alt character with about 22m skillpoints and 5 R&D agents here. Only L2 though because I hate running missions (boring!!!). But I've won twice on the lottery with two small T2 laser BPO's. Both from the same agent a week apart. My other four agents sit around playing cards and do no work. Being only T2 R&D agents I don't expect much out of them. Currently have these: Hydromagnetic Physics - 13,000 pts Laser Physics - 29,500 pts Laser Physics - 22,000 pts Amarrian Starship - 45,800 pts Amarrian Starship - 42,500 pts The T2 lasers I won were off the same agent a week apart (first time about 11k points, second time about 300 points). I can't figure it out. I'm not a big lottery fan despite having won. I agree the game should be based on teamwork and wealth should come from work. The lottery is like a cash machine that doesn't require an atm card. I just don't like it. I once proposed a detailed way to do research (create scientist careers). Use research slots to put in items in experiments. Each experiment would give you a "key" if successful (but many would fail). Get enough keys and put in lab and maybe have a breakthru.... or lose the keys and fail. Just like real science. I tied this in with an Explorer career. The items you put in the lab first could be rare items found in deep space, so explorers could make discoveries and sell them to the scientists, it was a grand plan that made research science based and not agent whoring based. I'd just like to know the lottery is real. Hearing people who have 500,000 R&D points and having never won anything is sad. Yet seeing myself with 300 points win something is happy. Mixed emotions about an imperfect system. But its what we have so make the best of it. I'll be praying tonight for a BPO to help Amarr! Archie VISIT THE PIE HOMEPAGE & FORUMS PIE INFORMATION CENTER
Wrayeth	Posted - 2005.12.22 04:02:00 - [140] Edited by: Wrayeth on 22/12/2005 04:04:33 I originally picked up a rocket science agent when CCP announced tech II siege were going to be released, in hopes of getting a BPO. I didn't really expect to get one, since I only had two weeks of research points when they were released, and I was quite correct - I didn't receive one in the original dispersal of tech II siege BPOs. However, yesterday morning I received an offer from my agent for the exact thing I'd been looking for - a shiny new tech II siege BPO. I only had 10k research points in rocket science by that point (80rp/day from the best level 4 Lai Dai research agent in the game), but it was enough. Thanks, CCP! -Wrayeth Go away.

Gamer4liff	Posted - 2005.12.22 04:10:00 - [141] well the people whith multiple BPO's started early and were in non-ship feilds, So that helps explain it a little. But christ, I mean seriously, For the average run-of-the-mill caldari starship researcher like myself who can't afford multiple accounts, even with 400k RP, the chances are absolutly infintesenimally small.
Xune	Posted - 2005.12.22 08:27:00 - [142] Originally by: Gamer4liff well the people whith multiple BPO's started early and were in non-ship feilds, So that helps explain it a little. But christ, I mean seriously, For the average run-of-the-mill caldari starship researcher like myself who can't afford multiple accounts, even with 400k RP, the chances are absolutly infintesenimally small. Well no... cant be. I mean. ther are SO many people out there that started r/d right as that came out, have multiple agents and crazy amounts of rp¦s not in the overvrowded fields and still the lottery hand the bpo¦s ever and ever again to the same people/agents..... hers somthing realy realy wrong
Xune	Posted - 2005.12.22 11:21:00 - [143] no answer :(
James Lyrus	Posted - 2005.12.22 11:28:00 - [144] Starship engineering is horrifically over subscribed. Between the 3x rps yield, and the fact that they're they're where all the really really good BPOs show up, means a lot of people use agents there. More rps in the lottery, mean that each individual one has less of a chance of winning. If you have 5 projects, each _not_ in starship engineering, your odds of a blueprint showing up are notably higher. shrug random distribution doesn't mean even distribution. If anything, the opposite. -- Lyrus Associates is recruiting
Xune	Posted - 2005.12.22 12:32:00 - [145] Originally by: James Lyrus Starship engineering is horrifically over subscribed. Between the 3x rps yield, and the fact that they're they're where all the really really good BPOs show up, means a lot of people use agents there. More rps in the lottery, mean that each individual one has less of a chance of winning. If you have 5 projects, each _not_ in starship engineering, your odds of a blueprint showing up are notably higher. shrug random distribution doesn't mean even distribution. If anything, the opposite. Then again having 7 different fields for ages and nothing is realy frustrating.. even more if you see people geting multiply bpo¦s for 1/10 what you ahve in research points.
Xune	Posted - 2005.12.22 15:14:00 - [146] bump still want a answer
Steven Dynahir	Posted - 2005.12.23 14:23:00 - [147] Was T1/T2 Snowball BPOs seeded in RMR? --- Home, sweet home.


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