The minigame is fine - it gives PvPers more time to gank explorers. That's a good thing.

But the flying loot cans is pretty stupid.

You missed my point.
I dont care about the minigame one way or the other but the inconsistency of having rats at WH data/relic sites while theyre nowhere else is, well, inconsistent.

You missed my point.
I dont care about the minigame one way or the other but the inconsistency of having rats at WH data/relic sites while theyre nowhere else is, well, inconsistent.

Yeah, the sleepers need to be removed in lower end w-space. A majority of the loot to be had from data sites has largely been de-valued by overlap from k-space which anyone can access. The market has been flooded with these items. But, in w-space our players have to spend time to clear these sites. It's a big FU from CCP.

I though it was actualy asked by w-space players to keep the sleepers because they always were the most amount of isk in those sites... .

that wouldnt surprise me at all but if CCP want to ruin hacking, they should do it everywhere equally. WHs are not special snowflakes.

3. There should be more sites and proportionally less loot in each one, to give wh'ers more to do.

Less easy mode and more challenges!

paraphrased to trim wall-o-text
"too many tools are available, like staticmapper, etc, so it's no longer mysterious"

A few solutions for this:
- Make D-scan unavailable in wormholes, like local. If this brings up too many whiners maybe reduce the D-scan range to 2-3 AU, this way you can scan short range and be able to see another ship incoming and be able to warp out in time.
- Disable the API information for wormholes, that way sites like Dotlan and Static Mapper aren't able to give you a readout of the entire wormhole within seconds.
- Get rid of the wormhole identifiers. Being able to google "N432" and have it tell me exactly where it goes is bad, really bad. Still give out the "this wormhole will lead to dangerous unknown space" information but have it just be called "unidentified wormhole" instead of something like "Wormhole N432".
- Instead of the Jsig being in the upper left of my screen, make it say something like "Unidentified System", "Unidentified Dangerous System", and "Unidentified Deadly System". This way the exact class of the wormhole will remain unknown until someone runs a few sites.

- Make D-scan unavailable in wormholes, like local. If this brings up too many whiners maybe reduce the D-scan range to 2-3 AU, this way you can scan short range and be able to see another ship incoming and be able to warp out in time.

- Disable the API information for wormholes, that way sites like Dotlan and Static Mapper aren't able to give you a readout of the entire wormhole within seconds.

- Get rid of the wormhole identifiers. Being able to google "N432" and have it tell me exactly where it goes is bad, really bad. Still give out the "this wormhole will lead to dangerous unknown space" information but have it just be called "unidentified wormhole" instead of something like "Wormhole N432".

- Instead of the Jsig being in the upper left of my screen, make it say something like "Unidentified System", "Unidentified Dangerous System", and "Unidentified Deadly System". This way the exact class of the wormhole will remain unknown until someone runs a few sites.

Guys you can stop talking about T3s. Its not T3 rebalance thread.

Yeah, the sleepers need to be removed in lower end w-space. A majority of the loot to be had from data sites has largely been de-valued by overlap from k-space which anyone can access. The market has been flooded with these items. But, in w-space our players have to spend time to clear these sites. It's a big FU from CCP.

T3's happen to be very important tools for real WH'ers and people tend to get a little uptight when someone who claims to be from our community start adding to the "nerf t3's" frenzy.

Wormholers are the only demographic ready to start hunger strikes and self-immolations over a hypothetical nerf that has not happened yet and may never happen, based solely on a very old dev quote from a dev who is no longer in charge of rebalancing.

The time to get angry about changes is when Fozzie, Rise or Ytterbium make a thread in Features&Ideas discussion with actual proposed changes. Instead almost every thread is contaminated with outrage over the non-existent t3 nerf. This hilarious behaviour makes us wormholers look like hysterical little girls.

We are a small community and thus, our voices would probably get drowned out buy all the null sec player who are sad

So we should keep quiet and wait until CCP release some ludicrous T3 re-balance plan? We are a small community and thus, our voices would probably get drowned out buy all the null sec player who are sad that they can't catch cloaky interdiction T3s.

I agree that people in the wormhole forums do tend to jump the gun a little but it is understandable as our community has a vested interest in Tech 3 ships.

I think it's great that we have openly argued the pros and cons of T3 already because it provides a useful resource for CCPs balancing team.

You only need look as far as the reasonable things vote results.

I think it's great that we have openly argued the pros and cons of T3 already because it provides a useful resource for CCPs balancing team.

Don't get your wig in an uproar, T3's happen to be very important tools for real WH'ers and people tend to get a little uptight when someone who claims to be from our community start adding to the "nerf t3's" frenzy.